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Pros and Cons of buying a horse from a "dealer"
emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
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Like the title says, what are the pros and cons of buying from a farm that goes our west, buys a load of horses, and sells them?
One thing that I don't like is that they really probably don't know THAT much about the horse..
I'm having a tough time finding a horse for myself.
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Posted 2017-08-02 7:56 AM
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I would never buy from a dealer again unless they allow trades if the horse doesn't work out for you. I have 3 horses from dealers. Only one was from the type of dealer you described and this guy would let you trade back if you werent happy with the horse you had bought. He had a trail riding business and had a kids camp so these horses were actually used. I bought my one horse in the fall after he was used for kids camp. I have had the horse 7 years and he is the best horse I have ever owned. We had actually bought 3 horses from him, one we had sold because I wanted a mule (stupid decision!), the other we bought for my sister who still has him. If that guy was still in business, that would be where I would have gotten another horse.
And then I have two other horses from "dealers" that just sell for people locally. The one I had 3 days and found out I had a completely different horse than what was sold to me. He is now a pasture ornament. The other was from a friend's of the dealers and she just looooved this horse sooo much and if it didn't work out just bring him back. Ha yea right! I was stuck spending $3000 in vet bills the first couple months I had him. Complete scam artist.

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Depends on the level of horse I'm buying.

Prospect - sure. If there isn't much training on the horse then there isn't much to know that can't be descerned from handling him on the ground and a good vet check.

As more and more training has supposedly been done I get more and more curious of why a nice horse isn't being sold by an individual owner privately or at a quality auction.

It also depends on the "dealer" or "trader" and their reputation - ask a lot of questions and ask around for others who have purchased from them.

My first horse came through a trainer who sold a LOT of horses on consignment - a lot of folks would call him a trader. But the trainer I was with at the time knew him well and trusted what he had and we got one of the best first horses there could have possibly been.
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Reg. Dec 2014
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We've got a guy in our area that goes out West and buys trailer loads of ranch geldings. He's made a good name for himself, but he also has a 10 day money back guarantee. From personal experience, he stands by what he says.

So, I think you just have to do your homework on who you are dealing with.
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It depends on the reputation of the DEALER .......  
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emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
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Long story short, I'm an ex-dressage rider looking for my 1st western/barrel/gymkhana horse. This place seems very reputable, they have countless great reviews not only on FB but on Google, also. They are about 6 hours from us, but he said that if in 30 days the horse is not working out, you can bring it back.

I think the one thing I don't like is that you really don't know ANY of their vices, etc compared to a private sale.
How do these horses end up being sold this way?
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emricmacy - 2017-08-02 8:32 AM

Long story short, I'm an ex-dressage rider looking for my 1st western/barrel/gymkhana horse. This place seems very reputable, they have countless great reviews not only on FB but on Google, also. They are about 6 hours from us, but he said that if in 30 days the horse is not working out, you can bring it back.

I think the one thing I don't like is that you really don't know ANY of their vices, etc compared to a private sale.
How do these horses end up being sold this way?

There are a few different types of "dealers." There are good and bad ones, just like you can buy from a good honest individual or a lying scumbag individual. I think there are 2 most common ones.

There's what I call the "horse trader" people who buy from auctions, or buy a bunch at a time for rock bottom prices. They know nearly nothing about the horses at the time of purchase, they're just taking a gamble because they're so cheap. They get them home see what they know and try to sell them as fast as possible to hopefully make a dollar. This seems to be what your post is asking about?

There's also consignors. Those who have a lot of horses to choose from because they are selling them for other people. They generally know the horse by reputation or by what information the owner has provided. They work on a commission for people who don't want to/don't have the time to/don't have the skill to sell the horse on their own.

Like others have said, it really depends on the individual. Horse traders typically have a bad rap, and for good reason. But there is one here in AL that I wouldn't hesitate to buy from if she had something that sparked my interest. She may not know much about the horse, but she will tell you everything she does know, and be as honest and upfront about it as possible.
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emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
Posted 2017-08-02 9:03 AM
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Thanks for all the replies!
They seem to have rave reviews about them all online. The horse I am interested in is a 13 yo grade QH gelding. They bought him from Iowa on Monday. I'm going to call the guy I've been talking to today on my lunch break to get some more info about him.
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Reg. Sep 2011
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emricmacy - 2017-08-02 6:32 AM

Long story short, I'm an ex-dressage rider looking for my 1st western/barrel/gymkhana horse. This place seems very reputable, they have countless great reviews not only on FB but on Google, also. They are about 6 hours from us, but he said that if in 30 days the horse is not working out, you can bring it back.

I think the one thing I don't like is that you really don't know ANY of their vices, etc compared to a private sale.
How do these horses end up being sold this way?



"I think the one thing I don't like is that you really don't know ANY of their vices, etc compared to a private sale."

With private sales, that person can still with hold vices.

I like buying from trainers, especially ones Ive known for years and have seen several nice horses run through her barn.
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Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-08-02 10:27 AM
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I have found dealers and owner sellers to be equally dishonest. Buying a new horse is a risk because you have zero history of that horse regardless where you buy from unless you are buying from someone you know personally. The only horses I have found to be exactly what the seller said they were are horses owned by friends.

I was horse shopping early this year. Every person misrepresented the horses they were selling. Every single person. One horse looked like she had a mild case of ring bone. I told the seller she had a hitch in her step and a rough lump on her pastern. She says "oh she just walks that way and she is 11 years old and probably just bumped herself at some point".

Another private seller says the horse is sound. I go out the and the horse is terribly pigeon toed. Can't even go in a circle without tripping over herself. Lady says "oh she got a bad trim. A good farrier will fix that" . I laughed out loud. Told her the horse was probably hot housed as a weanling when they were showing her in halter. She is ruined.

Another gelding I tried almost flipped over in me.

Those were just a few of the horses I looked at. And I probably looked at 20.



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emricmacy
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So what really can I ask the dealer if I go look at the horse that he's only had for a few days?
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Posted 2017-08-02 10:36 AM
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You can ask if you can do a vet check. Ask if has any coggins or vet records. Ask if you can have a trainer ride him for you.
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Posted 2017-08-02 10:40 AM
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SloRide - 2017-08-02 10:27 AM I have found dealers and owner sellers to be equally dishonest. Buying a new horse is a risk because you have zero history of that horse regardless where you buy from unless you are buying from someone you know personally. The only horses I have found to be exactly what the seller said they were are horses owned by friends. I was horse shopping early this year. Every person misrepresented the horses they were selling. Every single person. One horse looked like she had a mild case of ring bone. I told the seller she had a hitch in her step and a rough lump on her pastern. She says "oh she just walks that way and she is 11 years old and probably just bumped herself at some point". Another private seller says the horse is sound. I go out the and the horse is terribly pigeon toed. Can't even go in a circle without tripping over herself. Lady says "oh she got a bad trim. A good farrier will fix that" . I laughed out loud. Told her the horse was probably hot housed as a weanling when they were showing her in halter. She is ruined. Another gelding I tried almost flipped over in me. Those were just a few of the horses I looked at. And I probably looked at 20.

 Pretty accurate, I google past owners, the horses name, call previous owners, research as much as you can since you are not familiar with his history.
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Can someone tell me the difference between a horse dealer and horse trader? Never heard the term horse dealer befor, but it does sound better then a horse trader.
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Reg. Mar 2008
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Depends. . . I have no desire to deal with buyers on horses I am selling. Hypothetically, I might send them to a dealer to sell for me. . . doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the horse. It would be tough wondering if they have all the background info on the horse.
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Posted 2017-08-02 1:34 PM
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I bought a horse from a dealer and I would do it again in a heartbeat! BUT the people I bought one from let me trade him back if I did not get along with him (within a reasonable time frame). I think the clause was that they would buy him back after 6 months but could not guarantee the full price or something along that manner. But the thing I liked about it was that I was able to try a large amount of horses in a single day, I think I rode about 8 or 10 different horses and this was helpful because I had traveled about 15 hours to look at them. The con that I had with the situation is that someone had purchased two of the horses that I had wanted to look at BUT I understood that they could not keep 12 horses around for me to get down there and try and I was not set on one particular horse before I came down.
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Reg. Oct 2007
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Depends on dealers reputation - totally. The buyer must have horse sense too.
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I had someone who did the exact same thing. Told me she would take the horse back if it didn't work out. I called her that day and told her I would like to bring him back for a less some money for her time. "Oh well I am sorry I have already promised that money somewhere else, but you shouldn't have a problem selling him." Luckily in the end we actually ended up loving the horse. But we felt he was a little small for the job we were buying him for. She eventually stopped responding to my messages. I wasn't being mean or rude just asking questions. Found out later thru word of mouth she is a known horse trader.
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Where are you located?
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Curious. What is hot house?
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emricmacy
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Posted 2017-08-02 2:53 PM
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I just talked to the dealer a few min ago, and he has 4 or 5 that might work. The problem is that none of them have barrel/gymkhana experience. Two are cutting bred 1/2 brothers, 15yo and 16yo. Haven't had a hard life. Pretty much haven't been ridden in years and they hopped on them yesterday and today and said they haven't forgotten a thing.

The other is a 12 yo QH gelding that is pretty catty, but again, has never seen the pattern.
Prices range from $2,800 to $4,000.
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Firemanswife - 2017-08-02 2:51 PM

Curious. What is hot house?

It's a term for over feeding and bulking up young horses beyond what they should. Usually for halter shows. They will also trim their feet to be as straight as possible. Ends up messing up their legs.

The term hot house is used mostly for growing produce. Ever seen hot house tomatoes? Really huge and they grew quite fast.
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Firemanswife
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Thank you for explaining! I had never heard that before.
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emricmacy - 2017-08-02 2:53 PM VT! I just talked to the dealer a few min ago, and he has 4 or 5 that might work. The problem is that none of them have barrel/gymkhana experience. Two are cutting bred 1/2 brothers, 15yo and 16yo. Haven't had a hard life. Pretty much haven't been ridden in years and they hopped on them yesterday and today and said they haven't forgotten a thing. The other is a 12 yo QH gelding that is pretty catty, but again, has never seen the pattern. Prices range from $2,800 to $4,000.

I would look into pricing training for these horses... They may have never seen a pattern before but from experence if one follows their nose very well, they are sure to take to barrels very easily.  
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Where are you located?

I know a lot of the horse dealers/traders in my area and some are much better than others.
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My question is how far away from this dealer are you? If your local it's worth going to try them a couple of times. If you're hours away these horses are essentially older trail horses which I'm sure you can find something comparable locally.

It depends on what your budget is. If you have a smaller budget finding a great trail horse (something that been out and about to various locations), is willing to work, and has a good disposition makes for a nice project horse that you can either send to a barrel trainer for 30 days, or work on yourself.

If you have a larger budget you would be better off to look for an older finished barrel horse that will babysit you through a pattern and that you can go and have some immediate fun on without having to put in the work to teach it the pattern.
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emricmacy
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My budget is around 4k, and there is nothing around my area..I've been looking for months.
There is a mare that I've seen online that is about 4 hrs from me, an older lady owns her, she has competed some with her, but is not ridden regularly. She runs a 29-30 second pattern now..can do poles, etc, but has not asked for any speed, as she said she has 7 horses and can't ride them all, so she's not in consistent work.

This is my first barrel horse, and I was hoping for something that would teach me (to a certain extent), but I don't have that kind of budget.

This dealer I've been talking about is 6 hrs away.

I feel frustrated, a lot of the ones around my area/price range are still green, and I don't know much about barrel racing, even though I will take lessons, etc.

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I would have thought you could get an older horse that would be ideal for teaching a new person in this discipline. However, the reputation of the dealer is key - check multiple sources and try to talk to individuals that have bought from this person. Be sure they stand behind their sale, whether they are just representing or own the horse. Also, if they say they will take a horse back in trade, it usually means they will ask another couple thousand or so plus the horse. A reputable dealer will also know the horse they are representing - know habits, skill level, etc. Few dealers go to that extent however. Always do a vet check for lameness and potential drugging.

Good luck.
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SloRide - 2017-08-02 8:27 AM

I have found dealers and owner sellers to be equally dishonest. Buying a new horse is a risk because you have zero history of that horse regardless where you buy from unless you are buying from someone you know personally. The only horses I have found to be exactly what the seller said they were are horses owned by friends.

I was horse shopping early this year. Every person misrepresented the horses they were selling. Every single person. One horse looked like she had a mild case of ring bone. I told the seller she had a hitch in her step and a rough lump on her pastern. She says "oh she just walks that way and she is 11 years old and probably just bumped herself at some point".

Another private seller says the horse is sound. I go out the and the horse is terribly pigeon toed. Can't even go in a circle without tripping over herself. Lady says "oh she got a bad trim. A good farrier will fix that" . I laughed out loud. Told her the horse was probably hot housed as a weanling when they were showing her in halter. She is ruined.

Another gelding I tried almost flipped over in me.

Those were just a few of the horses I looked at. And I probably looked at 20.




What does hot housed mean?
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emricmacy
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I guess I just feel SO lost..If I were still riding english, I would know what I'm doing, looking for, etc..but western is new to me.

Do I find something that has never seen the pattern, but in my price range? But then I don't know how to train them in barrels.. Do I buy an older horse that has been there, done that?

There is not much around my area..
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emricmacy - 2017-08-02 12:53 PM VT! I just talked to the dealer a few min ago, and he has 4 or 5 that might work. The problem is that none of them have barrel/gymkhana experience. Two are cutting bred 1/2 brothers, 15yo and 16yo. Haven't had a hard life. Pretty much haven't been ridden in years and they hopped on them yesterday and today and said they haven't forgotten a thing. The other is a 12 yo QH gelding that is pretty catty, but again, has never seen the pattern. Prices range from $2,800 to $4,000.

I would go and look. A broke sound and sane horse is worth is weight in gold. the pattern is no big deal and it might be a blessing that they have not been screwed up. I f you can ride some and are not a closed minded know it all, then you can be running a nice horse long before you find exactly what you want. Take the horse to a trainer and take lessons and perhaps let the trainer ride it a couple times so they can give you pointers/ instructions on how to bring him along. I think most problems on the pattern are a result of starting a horse on the pattern that is not broke right. another area is not managing thier mind properly ( not knowing when to back off), the trainer should be able to help there. Try and find a horse that is forgiving and treat him right. 
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Thank you! I am VERY open minded, and can't wait to take lessons! I know nothing about barrel racing, but I can't wait to learn. I just thought since I don't know anything about barrel racing, and if the horse doesn't either, we will be a mess and never get anywhere. I'm 27, and it's been 7 years since I've ridden consistently (sad, I know, but life has gotten in the way). But, I'm super motivated.
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Do you go to the local barrel races and watch? Maybe you can meet someone there that runs and trains and they could help you out on finding something for a new beginner to barrels. I would stay away form the dealers/traders, find someone at your local barrel races that you can learn from and maybe take lessons from and then start your search for a beginner barrel horse after getting a few lessons. Do you have a horse/horses now?
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There are 3 good farms that teach lessons around me. One is about 45 min away one way, she's a great rider, teaches clinic, barrel racing lessons. That's a bit of a haul for me.

The other is at a ranch that hosts rodeo's every Sat night. She is supposedly a tough trainer, but as far as I know specializes in teaching barrel racing lessons.

The third is a lady that my DH and I took lessons with for a few months 2 years ago. I did not care for her teaching style. First off, I'm not a fan of group lessons, and there were about 9 people in our lesson, and I feel like I was just a number, and after months of lessons, she still didn't know my name..I didn't feel comfortable.

I do not have a horse now. When I rode dressage, I owned a beautiful hanoverian gelding, and an off the track TB mare. I have never owned a "western" horse..
The lady that is at the ranch that offers lessons, they are a "dealer", pretty well known, and they have horses for sale that they buy from out west monthly. They also have a guarantee..so I'm wondering if I can start taking lessons on one of their horses, and then maybe they would have something that would suit my needs?
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 10:35 AM

There are 3 good farms that teach lessons around me. One is about 45 min away one way, she's a great rider, teaches clinic, barrel racing lessons. That's a bit of a haul for me.

The other is at a ranch that hosts rodeo's every Sat night. She is supposedly a tough trainer, but as far as I know specializes in teaching barrel racing lessons.

The third is a lady that my DH and I took lessons with for a few months 2 years ago. I did not care for her teaching style. First off, I'm not a fan of group lessons, and there were about 9 people in our lesson, and I feel like I was just a number, and after months of lessons, she still didn't know my name..I didn't feel comfortable.

I do not have a horse now. When I rode dressage, I owned a beautiful hanoverian gelding, and an off the track TB mare. I have never owned a "western" horse..
The lady that is at the ranch that offers lessons, they are a "dealer", pretty well known, and they have horses for sale that they buy from out west monthly. They also have a guarantee..so I'm wondering if I can start taking lessons on one of their horses, and then maybe they would have something that would suit my needs?

I think that sounds like a good plan. It'll give you time to learn before making the investment, get to know the people; how they operate their place, etc...you can learn a lot by just observing people.
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 10:35 AM There are 3 good farms that teach lessons around me. One is about 45 min away one way, she's a great rider, teaches clinic, barrel racing lessons. That's a bit of a haul for me. The other is at a ranch that hosts rodeo's every Sat night. She is supposedly a tough trainer, but as far as I know specializes in teaching barrel racing lessons. The third is a lady that my DH and I took lessons with for a few months 2 years ago. I did not care for her teaching style. First off, I'm not a fan of group lessons, and there were about 9 people in our lesson, and I feel like I was just a number, and after months of lessons, she still didn't know my name..I didn't feel comfortable. I do not have a horse now. When I rode dressage, I owned a beautiful hanoverian gelding, and an off the track TB mare. I have never owned a "western" horse.. The lady that is at the ranch that offers lessons, they are a "dealer", pretty well known, and they have horses for sale that they buy from out west monthly. They also have a guarantee..so I'm wondering if I can start taking lessons on one of their horses, and then maybe they would have something that would suit my needs?

Thats were I would start at is with the lady at the ranch that gives lessons, I would take lessons with her and maybe she could match you up with a horse that you could take lessons on and if this horse that your taking lessons on is a good match for you then buy it if its what your wanting. This way you could get to know the horse befor buying it, then you will know if its the one are not. Call her and talk to her about taking lessons on the horses she has for sale to see how they would suit you. Then you would get to know her too 
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Southtxponygirl - 2017-08-03 8:52 AM
emricmacy - 2017-08-03 10:35 AM There are 3 good farms that teach lessons around me. One is about 45 min away one way, she's a great rider, teaches clinic, barrel racing lessons. That's a bit of a haul for me. The other is at a ranch that hosts rodeo's every Sat night. She is supposedly a tough trainer, but as far as I know specializes in teaching barrel racing lessons. The third is a lady that my DH and I took lessons with for a few months 2 years ago. I did not care for her teaching style. First off, I'm not a fan of group lessons, and there were about 9 people in our lesson, and I feel like I was just a number, and after months of lessons, she still didn't know my name..I didn't feel comfortable. I do not have a horse now. When I rode dressage, I owned a beautiful hanoverian gelding, and an off the track TB mare. I have never owned a "western" horse.. The lady that is at the ranch that offers lessons, they are a "dealer", pretty well known, and they have horses for sale that they buy from out west monthly. They also have a guarantee..so I'm wondering if I can start taking lessons on one of their horses, and then maybe they would have something that would suit my needs?
Thats were I would start at is with the lady at the ranch that gives lessons, I would take lessons with her and maybe she could match you up with a horse that you could take lessons on and if this horse that your taking lessons on is a good match for you then buy it if its what your wanting. This way you could get to know the horse befor buying it, then you will know if its the one are not. Call her and talk to her about taking lessons on the horses she has for sale to see how they would suit you. Then you would get to know her too 

that sounds like a good plan
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Thanks for the advice! I will be calling on my lunch break today!
It's a bit strange..the lady at the ranch that I will be calling today is sister's with the lady that my DH and I took lessons with 2 years ago. The lady I'm going to call is considered to be at the "ranch" and the sister is at the "stable". They are 100% connected, but they are about 5-10 min away from each other in the same town.
I had confidence when I rode english, now I feel like I'm starting from zero again (which I am to an extent), but I'm ok with that. My DH bought me a nice pair of Roper boots, that are SO light!
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kwanatha - 2017-08-03 10:57 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-08-03 8:52 AM
emricmacy - 2017-08-03 10:35 AM There are 3 good farms that teach lessons around me. One is about 45 min away one way, she's a great rider, teaches clinic, barrel racing lessons. That's a bit of a haul for me. The other is at a ranch that hosts rodeo's every Sat night. She is supposedly a tough trainer, but as far as I know specializes in teaching barrel racing lessons. The third is a lady that my DH and I took lessons with for a few months 2 years ago. I did not care for her teaching style. First off, I'm not a fan of group lessons, and there were about 9 people in our lesson, and I feel like I was just a number, and after months of lessons, she still didn't know my name..I didn't feel comfortable. I do not have a horse now. When I rode dressage, I owned a beautiful hanoverian gelding, and an off the track TB mare. I have never owned a "western" horse.. The lady that is at the ranch that offers lessons, they are a "dealer", pretty well known, and they have horses for sale that they buy from out west monthly. They also have a guarantee..so I'm wondering if I can start taking lessons on one of their horses, and then maybe they would have something that would suit my needs?
Thats were I would start at is with the lady at the ranch that gives lessons, I would take lessons with her and maybe she could match you up with a horse that you could take lessons on and if this horse that your taking lessons on is a good match for you then buy it if its what your wanting. This way you could get to know the horse befor buying it, then you will know if its the one are not. Call her and talk to her about taking lessons on the horses she has for sale to see how they would suit you. Then you would get to know her too 
that sounds like a good plan

Thank you,, I was thinking if shes got the choice to take lessons from the lady that sells these horses that would help her out a whole lot in the long run instead of just buying and then later the horse was not a good match. This way she can get to know the dealer and the horse all at the same time over a period of getting lessons.
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 10:57 AM Thanks for the advice! I will be calling on my lunch break today! It's a bit strange..the lady at the ranch that I will be calling today is sister's with the lady that my DH and I took lessons with 2 years ago. The lady I'm going to call is considered to be at the "ranch" and the sister is at the "stable". They are 100% connected, but they are about 5-10 min away from each other in the same town. I had confidence when I rode english, now I feel like I'm starting from zero again (which I am to an extent), but I'm ok with that. My DH bought me a nice pair of Roper boots, that are SO light!

Keep us updated on how it gos with the phone call please. Ropers are really comfy boots, what color are they?  
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That's what I have! I just can't believe how light they are. I used to always wear Ariat's when I rode dressage, and loved them.
Questions though, are western boots supposed to be REALLY slippery on the soles? They slip on my carpet at home..
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When DH and I took lessons at the "stable" seems like she always had to give me a pair of small spurs to wear. Should I invest in a pair just in case? I hate borrowing..
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 11:17 AM https://sep.yimg.com/ay/langstons/roper-womens-silver-underlay-squar... That's what I have! I just can't believe how light they are. I used to always wear Ariat's when I rode dressage, and loved them. Questions though, are western boots supposed to be REALLY slippery on the soles? They slip on my carpet at home..

The leather soles yes they are slippery when they are new, after a few weeks of wearing the soles will roughing up and they wont be so darn slippery.. 
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UPDATE:
Just talked to the lady who gives lessons at the ranch. She wasn't the friendliest, but I tend to take everything personally.
I told her I was interested in taking barrel racing lessons, and she goes, well don't expect me to put you on a barrel horse, because that's not going to happen..I told her that's not what I meant. I briefly told her my past riding history, and that I wasn't expecting that, but that I'm very new to western and I was to start from the beginning. She said no problem, we can get the basics down, then work towards barrel racing. I think I'm happy with that. $40.00 for a 1hr private lesson. I now just have to figure out a day to start. I'm excited, but very nervous, it's been 7 years!

When my DH and I went a couple years ago to ride at the stable, it was too fast paced. They expected to you saddle up in 5 min and be ready. I tried telling them I didn't even know how to saddle western! I just want someone to take the time to teach me, not to just rush and do it for me.

Thanks for the support ladies!

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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 3:03 PM UPDATE: Just talked to the lady who gives lessons at the ranch. She wasn't the friendliest, but I tend to take everything personally. I told her I was interested in taking barrel racing lessons, and she goes, well don't expect me to put you on a barrel horse, because that's not going to happen..I told her that's not what I meant. I briefly told her my past riding history, and that I wasn't expecting that, but that I'm very new to western and I was to start from the beginning. She said no problem, we can get the basics down, then work towards barrel racing. I think I'm happy with that. $40.00 for a 1hr private lesson. I now just have to figure out a day to start. I'm excited, but very nervous, it's been 7 years! When my DH and I went a couple years ago to ride at the stable, it was too fast paced. They expected to you saddle up in 5 min and be ready. I tried telling them I didn't even know how to saddle western! I just want someone to take the time to teach me, not to just rush and do it for me. Thanks for the support ladies!

Well good for you at least you got your foot in the door so I hope that it all gos well for you  
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 3:03 PM

UPDATE:
Just talked to the lady who gives lessons at the ranch. She wasn't the friendliest, but I tend to take everything personally.
I told her I was interested in taking barrel racing lessons, and she goes, well don't expect me to put you on a barrel horse, because that's not going to happen..I told her that's not what I meant. I briefly told her my past riding history, and that I wasn't expecting that, but that I'm very new to western and I was to start from the beginning. She said no problem, we can get the basics down, then work towards barrel racing. I think I'm happy with that. $40.00 for a 1hr private lesson. I now just have to figure out a day to start. I'm excited, but very nervous, it's been 7 years!

When my DH and I went a couple years ago to ride at the stable, it was too fast paced. They expected to you saddle up in 5 min and be ready. I tried telling them I didn't even know how to saddle western! I just want someone to take the time to teach me, not to just rush and do it for me.

Thanks for the support ladies!

Good for you I can only imagine how scared I'd be if I decided to try English!!
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 I could not imagine where to begin if I wanted to go English.  I would be looking for a place for the breast collar and flank girt.  Any just where do you put that over and under?  Good luck, have fun and don't stress too much.
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emricmacy - 2017-08-03 3:03 PM

UPDATE:
Just talked to the lady who gives lessons at the ranch. She wasn't the friendliest, but I tend to take everything personally.
I told her I was interested in taking barrel racing lessons, and she goes, well don't expect me to put you on a barrel horse, because that's not going to happen..I told her that's not what I meant. I briefly told her my past riding history, and that I wasn't expecting that, but that I'm very new to western and I was to start from the beginning. She said no problem, we can get the basics down, then work towards barrel racing. I think I'm happy with that. $40.00 for a 1hr private lesson. I now just have to figure out a day to start. I'm excited, but very nervous, it's been 7 years!

When my DH and I went a couple years ago to ride at the stable, it was too fast paced. They expected to you saddle up in 5 min and be ready. I tried telling them I didn't even know how to saddle western! I just want someone to take the time to teach me, not to just rush and do it for me.

Thanks for the support ladies!

I'm glad that you recognized that you shouldn't take her brusque demeanor personally. Some of us horse people are just that... HORSE people. We get along so well with them because we don't get along that well with other people. Lol! I've turned down the opportunity to give lessons a lot from friends and acquaintances from church and stuff like that. I know that I just don't have the personality for it. It's not that I don't enjoy sharing my knowledge, it just doesn't always come across... friendly, I guess. So I can relate to her!

Just wanted to provide some encouragement to not get down on yourself if she doesn't provide that pat on the back when you could really use it!
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I'm nervous, but at the same time, VERY excited to be one step closer to owning a horse again, and learning something new. There's a part of me that says oh people will be judging me, but I really don't care if I look stupid, which I probably will for awhile.

When I rode english, I was comfortable with the "english ways", and things like that, so that's where I feel uncomfortable switching to western.
I don't even know how to tack up western! I feel SO dumb, but tell me to tack up a dressage horse, and I'm your girl! lol..I'll get there eventually.

Are there any New England barrel racers on this forum?
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