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      Location: Arkansas | Just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on these terrible happenings. |
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and then there's all this government fuss going on about it. With Korea looming over us. The government needs to get together and handle this as one government and we as a nation need to be able to get it together as one nation. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | crossspur - 2017-08-15 9:41 AM It's awful. and then there's all this government fuss going on about it. With Korea looming over us. The government needs to get together and handle this as one government and we as a nation need to be able to get it together as one nation.
There is no Korea looming over us. There never was.
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | crossspur - 2017-08-15 8:41 AM It's awful. and then there's all this government fuss going on about it. With Korea looming over us. The government needs to get together and handle this as one government and we as a nation need to be able to get it together as one nation.
The Liberals, and some Republicans will never let any of this happen. I have multiple friends who associate with the Liberal party. And most have changed to "Independent" after recent events and me urging them to research.
It's truly sad that people in Governemnet THAT WE APPOINTED would rather hold on to their pride than help the people who elected them or their President.
Alls I can say is this: The presidential election is not the most important election. Be active in your goverment. Be aware of who you vote into any office. It affects everything. People you appoint are allowed to appoint others in certain situations. Do your research, look at the whole picture. Just because we have a President willing to stand up for us instead of back down doesn't mean that we can. We need the entire government backing him. We appoint most of that government. Just my two cents.... |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | 1DSoon - 2017-08-15 9:09 AM crossspur - 2017-08-15 9:41 AM It's awful. and then there's all this government fuss going on about it. With Korea looming over us. The government needs to get together and handle this as one government and we as a nation need to be able to get it together as one nation. There is no Korea looming over us. There never was.
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          Location: Missouri | My opinion is that it's horrible that a piece's of history are being torn down all around because certain people suddenly don't like what they represent. If you were born in America, this is your history. The good and the bad. We cannot put our heads in the sand and pretend the civil war never happened. It may not have been a glorious time in our history but it belongs to us all, no matter your color or what part of this nation you grew up in. It is also my opinion that protesting has totally gotten out of hand since the Micheal Brown ordeal in Ferguson, which is where I grew up, in the Ferguson/Florrisant area and school district. It was and still is fear and lack of government support to our officers in blue. They stand back helpless to step in on a racial issue, such as black v white or cop v criminal. It makes me sick that the new norm is violence. |
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        Location: Kansas | Especially disturbing to watch vandals topple the Confederate statue, then kick it (and how smart are you when you kick a piece of metal with your foot). Good, bad, or indifferent the Civil War was part of our history and the men who fought it, on both sides, have a right to be remembered with respect....as does the Confederate flag.
I still believe George Soros money is behind these evil riots.
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | Frodo - 2017-08-15 12:24 PM Especially disturbing to watch vandals topple the Confederate statue, then kick it (and how smart are you when you kick a piece of metal with your foot). Good, bad, or indifferent the Civil War was part of our history and the men who fought it, on both sides, have a right to be remembered with respect....as does the Confederate flag.
I still believe George Soros money is behind these evil riots.
Evil man right there... |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | History has been rewritten by the victors since the begining of time.
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    Location: South Dakota | Rush Limbaugh posted on FB that Hillary Clinton's foundation is putting money towards groups that are resisting Pres. Trump. Why is law enforcement allowing this destruction of public property?? The country is being destroyed from within... |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Theres just so much hate and evil in this world and I just dont see it getting any better, not many want to see it get better they just want more hate to keep taking over, I would name who I'm talking about but it would only cause a uproar on here.  |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | ridejg - 2017-08-15 4:52 PM Why is law enforcement allowing this destruction of public property??
The country is being destroyed from within...
Law Enforcement was told to stand down by their bosses. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Nevertooold - 2017-08-15 7:47 PM ridejg - 2017-08-15 4:52 PM Why is law enforcement allowing this destruction of public property??
The country is being destroyed from within... Law Enforcement was told to stand down by their bosses.
They still did it.
An unlawful order is unlawful. |
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| Frodo - 2017-08-15 12:24 PM
Especially disturbing to watch vandals topple the Confederate statue, then kick it (and how smart are you when you kick a piece of metal with your foot). Good, bad, or indifferent the Civil War was part of our history and the men who fought it, on both sides, have a right to be remembered with respect....as does the Confederate flag.
I still believe George Soros money is behind these evil riots.
shades of ISIS when they took over. Topple the monuments of history and replace them with their own. |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | Frodo - 2017-08-15 12:24 PM Especially disturbing to watch vandals topple the Confederate statue, then kick it (and how smart are you when you kick a piece of metal with your foot). Good, bad, or indifferent the Civil War was part of our history and the men who fought it, on both sides, have a right to be remembered with respect....as does the Confederate flag.
I still believe George Soros money is behind these evil riots.
While I find the destruction of the statues disgusting, I am much more concerned that that a sick individual would drive a vehicle into a group of protesters because they happened to have an opposing point of view. I mean come on we are talking about taking a human life. I will never comprehend where that kind of violence and hatred come from. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | turnthree - 2017-08-15 8:12 AM Makes me very sad.... What is wrong with people....... 
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      Location: Arkansas | I just wonder what would have happened/been said if certain groups would have pulled a MLK statue down. . . . Someone finds something offensive about every monument---do we tear them all down?? It's our history, end of discussion. Tearing them down doesn't change that. And you know what they say about a country that forgets its history. I'm Southern to the core, and I find it beyond irritating that our heritage is being attacked over and over and yet people are shocked when we push back. (In no way do I condone what happened to the young lady or identity with white supremacist, etc.) |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2017-08-15 8:28 PM
I just wonder what would have happened/been said if certain groups would have pulled a MLK statue down. . . . Someone finds something offensive about every monument---do we tear them all down?? It's our history, end of discussion. Tearing them down doesn't change that. And you know what they say about a country that forgets its history. I'm Southern to the core, and I find it beyond irritating that our heritage is being attacked over and over and yet people are shocked when we push back. (In no way do I condone what happened to the young lady or identity with white supremacist, etc.)
I wondered the same thing. I agree with your views. |
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        Location: Kansas | SC Wrangler - 2017-08-15 7:14 PM Frodo - 2017-08-15 12:24 PM Especially disturbing to watch vandals topple the Confederate statue, then kick it (and how smart are you when you kick a piece of metal with your foot). Good, bad, or indifferent the Civil War was part of our history and the men who fought it, on both sides, have a right to be remembered with respect....as does the Confederate flag.
I still believe George Soros money is behind these evil riots.
While I find the destruction of the statues disgusting, I am much more concerned that that a sick individual would drive a vehicle into a group of protesters because they happened to have an opposing point of view. I mean come on we are talking about taking a human life. I will never comprehend where that kind of violence and hatred come from.
Anyone taking part in this kind of mindless, vicious destruction has to know their life may be in danger.
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| hate group both side fuel by camera no give my way or hyway
the idiots kicking statue knew they were be filmed they kept looking to make sure they were on camera
?but for the life of me i do not understand the police allowing this all it does is let them gety bolder louise disagrees with me but i still think fire hoses like in the sixy would get their attention |
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    Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Maybe we should shut off all their entitlement checks so they would have to go to work like the rest of us. Then they would have something to worry about like just trying to make a living like the rest of us. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Now we got this cra* going on in San Antiono Texas, crazy people want to tear down a Confederate Statue in the park there. This mess has gotton so outa hand..
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      Location: Arkansas | Where does it all end????? Are we headed towards Civil War again? I feel like Southern folks should have rights. And our Southern heroes should have respect. I know there are right and wrong ways to go about things, but heaven help us someone needs to stand up for normal, everyday, law-abiding citizens. . . . It infuriates me beyond belief because if the shoe was on the other foot, well, we know where those people would be if they toppled certain "ethnic" statues. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Many people are missing the point on this chaos completely.
Tearing down statues and monuments cannot alter established facts.
So-called historians who are revisionists try to alter history by injecting their own interpretations of events. Many of these pseudo intellectuals do not want to expunge monuments and reminders of our historical past, all under the guise of equality and harmony.
No, it's quite the opposite for many of them, particularly those with a liberal-progressive agenda. They cannot win on the merits of their socialist-utopia agenda, hence they need chaos and division to win over the support of the feeble minded. They need hate. They need racism to persist. They need xenophobia. They need homophobia.
They need feminazi's. They need abortion to flourish. They need class warfare. They need envy, hate, division, and identity politics.
Deep down inside, they really don't care that Confederate generals were part of our past. They know that removing statues and monuments cannot actually alter historically established events and facts. That doesn't mean they won't try revisionist tactics, but the main goal is the creation of hate, under the guise of eliminating it.
They need hate and racism. The frequent quote "never let a good crisis go to waste" is proof positive that they need things like this.
Harmony, productivity, prosperity, and unity are poison to the progressive left. They want one thing: POWER.
They need a thriving KKK and White Supremecist movement just as much as they need BLM, Occupy Wall Street, and Antifa. Those groups.....all of them, are vital to progressivism.
The Progressives have one key advantage over their political opponents: the media. The liberal mainstream media is what controls the focused rage. When BLM operatives shot 5 cops like dogs in the streets of Dallas, the outrage against the BLM was short lived. They even managed to turn things around and blame racism for those assassinations. This crazed zealot who drove the car into the crowd and killed that girl has been the poster boy for driving the lunatics into their frenzy which has led to the current rage of removal ol statues and monuments. One year ago, on Bastille Day, an ISIS-inspired terrorist did the same thing in Nice, France. He was much better at killing.....he killed nearly 100 people with a truck. If that exact same thing would have happened here last weekend with a similar ISIS crazed lunatic, would the outrage be as vitriolic and focused?
It won't be long and we will begin to see people calling for the Constitution and Declaration of Independence to be nullified on the basis that 50% of the attendees to the first Constitutional Convention were slave owners. We will soon see calls for Monticello to be bulldozed because Jefferson owned nearly 200 slaves.
Theses things may sound ridiculous, but mark my word, incrementally we will see this. It's not because they are sincere in their expressed desire....it's because they need these tools......for POWER. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2017-08-17 10:58 AM Many people are missing the point on this chaos completely. Tearing down statues and monuments cannot alter established facts. So-called historians who are revisionists try to alter history by injecting their own interpretations of events. Many of these pseudo intellectuals do not want to expunge monuments and reminders of our historical past, all under the guise of equality and harmony. No, it's quite the opposite for many of them, particularly those with a liberal-progressive agenda. They cannot win on the merits of their socialist-utopia agenda, hence they need chaos and division to win over the support of the feeble minded. They need hate. They need racism to persist. They need xenophobia. They need homophobia. They need feminazi's. They need abortion to flourish. They need class warfare. They need envy, hate, division, and identity politics. Deep down inside, they really don't care that Confederate generals were part of our past. They know that removing statues and monuments cannot actually alter historically established events and facts. That doesn't mean they won't try revisionist tactics, but the main goal is the creation of hate, under the guise of eliminating it. They need hate and racism. The frequent quote "never let a good crisis go to waste" is proof positive that they need things like this. Harmony, productivity, prosperity, and unity are poison to the progressive left. They want one thing: POWER. They need a thriving KKK and White Supremecist movement just as much as they need BLM, Occupy Wall Street, and Antifa. Those groups.....all of them, are vital to progressivism. The Progressives have one key advantage over their political opponents: the media. The liberal mainstream media is what controls the focused rage. When BLM operatives shot 5 cops like dogs in the streets of Dallas, the outrage against the BLM was short lived. They even managed to turn things around and blame racism for those assassinations. This crazed zealot who drove the car into the crowd and killed that girl has been the poster boy for driving the lunatics into their frenzy which has led to the current rage of removal ol statues and monuments. One year ago, on Bastille Day, an ISIS-inspired terrorist did the same thing in Nice, France. He was much better at killing.....he killed nearly 100 people with a truck. If that exact same thing would have happened here last weekend with a similar ISIS crazed lunatic, would the outrage be as vitriolic and focused? It won't be long and we will begin to see people calling for the Constitution and Declaration of Independence to be nullified on the basis that 50% of the attendees to the first Constitutional Convention were slave owners. We will soon see calls for Monticello to be bulldozed because Jefferson owned nearly 200 slaves. Theses things may sound ridiculous, but mark my word, incrementally we will see this. It's not because they are sincere in their expressed desire....it's because they need these tools......for POWER.
Exactly ,, this is the way this kind gets notice and get the attention they crave, this is the only way for them. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | 1DSoon - 2017-08-15 6:58 PM Nevertooold - 2017-08-15 7:47 PM ridejg - 2017-08-15 4:52 PM Why is law enforcement allowing this destruction of public property??
The country is being destroyed from within... Law Enforcement was told to stand down by their bosses. They still did it.
An unlawful order is unlawful.
It's pretty sad that when responsible people that have a job, do what they are told to keep that job. Unlike most people that react without thinking, most police think before they act. Losing ones job and a paycheck, to provide for their families and possibly losing a pension, would stop most in their tracks. In this day and age, the last job I would want would be in law enforcement. Your ****ed if you do and ****ed if you don't. |
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   Location: LA Lower Alabama | I think with the police having such a bad rap at the moment it was a good idea for them to stand down in this situation. I also believe that if we try to forget or hide our past we are more likely to repeat it. I cant believe how mad people got that the president didn't say what they wanted him to either. I guess they do care what he thinks... |
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     Location: East Texas | cowgalsissy - 2017-08-17 4:25 PM
I think with the police having such a bad rap at the moment it was a good idea for them to stand down in this situation. I also believe that if we try to forget or hide our past we are more likely to repeat it. I cant believe how mad people got that the president didn't say what they wanted him to either. I guess they do care what he thinks...
No, that want him to disagree with them so they can add fuel to their fire! It doesn't matter what he says... they will try and tear him down at every turn and every chance they get! They have not given him a chance from the start.
What's so amazing about this whole thing is that for over a hundred years, some of these statutes have stood in the same place and you have never heard a word against them. Now, all of a sudden, those sweet liberals have found something to shove under the noses of the people who will get on their bandwagon, and have gotten them all stirred up over our history (the vast majority who don't even know or care what are actual historical facts)!
This is all about HATE, not facts! God help us all!!
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      Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2017-08-17 10:58 AM
Many people are missing the point on this chaos completely.
Tearing down statues and monuments cannot alter established facts.
So-called historians who are revisionists try to alter history by injecting their own interpretations of events. Many of these pseudo intellectuals do not want to expunge monuments and reminders of our historical past, all under the guise of equality and harmony.
No, it's quite the opposite for many of them, particularly those with a liberal-progressive agenda. They cannot win on the merits of their socialist-utopia agenda, hence they need chaos and division to win over the support of the feeble minded. They need hate. They need racism to persist. They need xenophobia. They need homophobia.
They need feminazi's. They need abortion to flourish. They need class warfare. They need envy, hate, division, and identity politics.
Deep down inside, they really don't care that Confederate generals were part of our past. They know that removing statues and monuments cannot actually alter historically established events and facts. That doesn't mean they won't try revisionist tactics, but the main goal is the creation of hate, under the guise of eliminating it.
They need hate and racism. The frequent quote "never let a good crisis go to waste" is proof positive that they need things like this.
Harmony, productivity, prosperity, and unity are poison to the progressive left. They want one thing: POWER.
They need a thriving KKK and White Supremecist movement just as much as they need BLM, Occupy Wall Street, and Antifa. Those groups.....all of them, are vital to progressivism.
The Progressives have one key advantage over their political opponents: the media. The liberal mainstream media is what controls the focused rage. When BLM operatives shot 5 cops like dogs in the streets of Dallas, the outrage against the BLM was short lived. They even managed to turn things around and blame racism for those assassinations. This crazed zealot who drove the car into the crowd and killed that girl has been the poster boy for driving the lunatics into their frenzy which has led to the current rage of removal ol statues and monuments. One year ago, on Bastille Day, an ISIS-inspired terrorist did the same thing in Nice, France. He was much better at killing.....he killed nearly 100 people with a truck. If that exact same thing would have happened here last weekend with a similar ISIS crazed lunatic, would the outrage be as vitriolic and focused?
It won't be long and we will begin to see people calling for the Constitution and Declaration of Independence to be nullified on the basis that 50% of the attendees to the first Constitutional Convention were slave owners. We will soon see calls for Monticello to be bulldozed because Jefferson owned nearly 200 slaves.
Theses things may sound ridiculous, but mark my word, incrementally we will see this. It's not because they are sincere in their expressed desire....it's because they need these tools......for POWER.
^^^^This truly scares the poo out of me. . . . |
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