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  Location: Oklahoma | I am at my whit’s end with trying to heal a wound on my three year old filly. It is on the outside of her cannon, half way between her knee and ankle. It started out just a little, dime sized spot she get pawing at another horse through the barbed wire fence. It wasn’t anything to really even have to doctor at first until she started chewing on it. Between her chewing and a little proud flesh, it grew to about an egg size. I put a cradle on her to prevent her from chewing and have treated with Underwoods & baking soda, meat tenderizer, Wonder Dust, lime and about anything else I’ve heard or read about but can’t get a handle on it. She has discovered how to cross her other front leg over that injured one to itch it or will stand around rubbing it back and forth on the stall wall, pipe fence or tree and keeps it busted open, bleeding and oozing. I’ve also tried keeping it wrapped but she will rub it until she gets the wrap off. Any ideas?? She is a really nice filly and I sure don’t want her to ruin herself but I’m out of ideas and try!  |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I wonder if she has a bacteria infection in it? Might try some meds |
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  Location: Oklahoma | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-08-23 3:14 PM
I wonder if she has a bacteria infection in it? Might try some meds
I've gone through a tub of Uniprim. May need something stronger? |
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 The Vaccinator
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Order Eclipse Wound Spray and Eclipse Wound Cream. Use spray twice a day on it and then cream on it. If you can figure out a way to keep it wrapped/covered, do so. Visit this website for some wrapping ideas: www.stepaheadfarm.com
You may have to hobble and tie her or tranquilize her for while to keep her off of it. She may need something for the itching.....
Edited by Delta Cowgirl 2017-08-23 4:35 PM
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 You get what you give
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     Location: Texas | Two thoughts:
First thought is the possibility of a bone sequestrum that is preventing healing. Any time theres an injury close to bone, that's a possibility.
Second, and more probable thought, is that she's developed a summer sore over the wound due to flies. It can cause intense itching and they will chew themselves. If you have SSD cream, you can add some dex (like5-10 cc) and a tube of ivermectin to it and mix it up and apply it daily. Theres other sprays that have some lidocaine in it but IDK if those can be sold OTC. That's what we use here is the antiseptic spray with lidocaine, add 10cc dex and 10cc injectable ivomec and spray topically daily.
ETA- your best suggestion would be to go to your vet who can mix up a cocktail of a summer sore spray similar to what I described above.
Edited by casualdust07 2017-08-23 4:51 PM
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       Location: Florida | I know this used to be a Florida problem but things are changing. She might have a fly larvae in there, we call it leeches, but it really isn't a leech. Get some ivermectrin paste, put it directly on the sore. Scrub it every day and re-apply. Also triple worm her with ivermectrin. The itching at the beginning was from the larvae. Cutting off the top or scrubbing it down at this point won't get the larvae which burrows deeper. But you are in OK, so I could be wrong, but if your were in the SE this is what it would be. |
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     Location: Texas | Vickie - 2017-08-23 4:52 PM
I know this used to be a Florida problem but things are changing. She might have a fly larvae in there, we call it leeches, but it really isn't a leech. Get some ivermectrin paste, put it directly on the sore. Scrub it every day and re-apply. Also triple worm her with ivermectrin. The itching at the beginning was from the larvae. Cutting off the top or scrubbing it down at this point won't get the larvae which burrows deeper. But you are in OK, so I could be wrong, but if your were in the SE this is what it would be.
That's what summer sores are. It's called habronemiasis after the habronema larvae. flies land in the wound and deposit the larvae into the wound and then it causes an intense allergic reaction- inflammation and itching- and horses will self traumatize if bad enough. |
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| you may want to pull blood and check for infection or have a vet excise some of the tissue. uniprim is not broad based enough to cover all bacteria infections. we learned the hard way. you may need genocin or just ppg. but it takes about 3 broad spectrum to cover as many bases as you can. good luck!
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| You have a bacterial infection in the wound is the reason it keeps
oozing. Also you may have some type of foreign object in there
to create the oozing.
Granulated flesh is Mother Natures way of surrounding an object
or pushing out debris in a wound and then it turns into proud
flesh once it gets above the hair line.
Here is a tried and proven fix ... since you are dealing with an
older problem .. you are going to have to be aggressive to get
it under control
First things ... to not do!!
YOU ARE GOING TO PRETEND YOU DO NOT WANT
THE WOUND TO CLOSE UP.. it must stay open to eat the
proud flesh
NEXT>>> AND NEVER WRAP A HORSE WOUND ... all you do
is create an environment for bacteria .. and a huge vet bill
Things you need ..
Mix 16oz spray bottle of plain old corn oil with one ounce of
strong iodine 6-7% strong ...
since your horse is chewing
on her wound .. get you a bar of fake CAMPHOR ..
smell and taste will change her mind on chewing
use gloves and a cheese grater to grind up half the
bar and put in spray bottle .. shake it up each time
you use it ..
Wonder dust or caustic powder .. use lots of it !!!
A strong thumb to use to hydrate the wound for 5-10 minutes
with a water hose prior to next doctoring
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4 day actions
1st day water hydrate then puff a good layer of caustic powder
2nd & 3rd day repeat
since you are way behind .. if possible do this twice per day
4th day .. spray hard trying to blow the black scabs off of wound
then spray your iodine/camphor solution on wound
With the chewing problem you may want to start with day 4
even 2 days of this to stop the itching ..
REPEAT THE ABOVE WHILE KEEPING THE WOUND OPEN AND
NO WRAPPING!!
Get aggressive with the spraying .. pinkish blood is normal
with granulated flesh ... you have to eat it down to find
the pocket of bacterial infection
ALSO .. I WOULD do 20cc of PEN G for 5 DAYS ... try to use
a 20 gauge needle instead of an 18 gauge needle ...
Keep up the procedure even as you see the skin trying to
heal across the wound ....
30 days of aggressive doctoring should give you a permanent
end to your problem..
GOOD LUCK .. |
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| I'd stop screwing around and get a vet to culture it to find out exactly what you are dealing with so you can get the right antibiotic to heal it. If it turns into a bone infection, you'll really be in a mess. Wounds that aren't healing aren't something you want to try and fix via the Internet.
Edited by SKM 2017-08-24 11:24 PM
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