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Location: Somewhere around here | If your looking for a new house and your price range went up to $10,000 what are you looking for and expecting from the horse? A very well bred 2 year old? A horse winning in the 1D? I feel like it could be a range of things and hard to deem a horse worth $10,000. Not saying there aren't horses out there with that, and more, but I'm just trying to get your personal opinion about it. |
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| 10k might get you a solid 3D horse. Solid 1d horses go for 40k up and over 100k. Some pay 10k for an unbroke prospect. |
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| A well bred two year old, consistent 2D/3D that has a record of winning. Have a friend whose horses win money in 3D no matter how many horses. I wood have paid 10,000 for either one. A horse that is 3D and is kid gentle |
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| Certain designer weanlings
Known bloodlines (grandget of designer breeding) well started with a good handle ready to be put onto the barrels. |
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| I just sold a nice 5 yr old Frenchmans Fabulous gelding who is super gentle, well patterned, but green to a jr rodeo girl for 17.5k
He was worth every penny because he can carry her thru college rodeo 10 yrs down the line. Price is very subjective to the quality of horse you have for sale |
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| Texas Tornado - 2017-09-04 10:26 PM I just sold a nice 5 yr old Frenchmans Fabulous gelding who is super gentle, well patterned, but green to a jr rodeo girl for 17.5k He was worth every penny because he can carry her thru college rodeo 10 yrs down the line. Price is very subjective to the quality of horse you have for sale I paid 18K for a 6 year old, nice breeding but no big names, well patterned, will not run by a barrel, but very green. Agree price is very subjective, there are so many variables. Most adds I see in the 10K range vary from designer weanlings to older 3D/4D horses.
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I think it also depends on the area your in as well. 10k here in ohio can get you a seasoned/older solid 1D horse. But it can also get you a young, broke, bred okay prospect depending on who you're dealing with. |
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Location: OH | Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-09-05 7:47 AM I think it also depends on the area your in as well. 10k here in ohio can get you a seasoned/older solid 1D horse. But it can also get you a young, broke, bred okay prospect depending on who you're dealing with.
I am in Ohio also and I haven't seen a legit 1d horse go for 10 grand unless it has a boatload of maintenance issues. |
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Location: Georgia | I also think it depends on the area. Here in north GA it can probably get you a pretty decently bred prospect, maybe something lightly started. Or a solid 2d/3d horse. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2017-09-05 7:02 AM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-09-05 7:47 AM I think it also depends on the area your in as well. 10k here in ohio can get you a seasoned/older solid 1D horse. But it can also get you a young, broke, bred okay prospect depending on who you're dealing with. I am in Ohio also and I haven't seen a legit 1d horse go for 10 grand unless it has a boatload of maintenance issues.
yep.. I am from tx and traveled to OH to a buy a nice 1D horse last year and I assure you I paid way more than $10k!! |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | rodeolife - 2017-09-05 10:22 AM Mighty Broke - 2017-09-05 7:02 AM Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-09-05 7:47 AM I think it also depends on the area your in as well. 10k here in ohio can get you a seasoned/older solid 1D horse. But it can also get you a young, broke, bred okay prospect depending on who you're dealing with. I am in Ohio also and I haven't seen a legit 1d horse go for 10 grand unless it has a boatload of maintenance issues.
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Location: Louisiana | It all depends where you are...
In SE Louisiana... it varies LOL
You literally could buy ANYTHING with $10,000 haha.
Well bred baby.
2-3yo off track.
Started prospect.
Super consistent 3-4D
Kid safe youth horse.
Middle of the road all-around horse, not a winner but will get you points in every event.
All the way up to a 1D gelding if you get lucky.
It's all in knowing your market, buyers and sellers.
Our local NBHA district is VERY tough. People travel to run our district.
In the 1D we may have a $100,000 horse, a $30,000 horse, a $5,000 horse, and a freebie, no joke. They're worth what you're willing to pay LOL.
It also depends on how patient you are.
How sentimental the seller is, etc.
Some people will spend it like it's nothing, and some think $5,000 is a lot for a horse. It's all relative!!
Also, a different jockey can sometimes make a $10,000 difference...or even just simply hauling one.
My good gelding belonged to a trainer who never had the time or room to haul him. So he had no record at all, hadn't taken any videos. A mutual friend knew I was looking and knew he had one sitting in the barn on the feed bill.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | cecollins0811 - 2017-09-04 10:04 PM If your looking for a new house and your price range went up to $10,000 what are you looking for and expecting from the horse? A very well bred 2 year old? A horse winning in the 1D? I feel like it could be a range of things and hard to deem a horse worth $10,000. Not saying there aren't horses out there with that, and more, but I'm just trying to get your personal opinion about it.
If I pay 10k for a horse it better be a 1D every run, no maint needed, 1000% sound, fire breathing, babysitter, free runner, all around, perfect confirmation, every single "In" Stud as his sire, every AQHA Hall of Fame Dam as his momma, type Unicorn!  
On a serious note, I'm in N TX and 10k won't buy much here unless people don't know what they have....  |
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Location: Illinois | Where I'm from (IL) $10,000 can get you all over the map. I just paid under $6K for a 3 year old with decent bloodlines in my opinion. She's a granddaughter of Marthas Six Moons on top and Alive N Firen on the bottom. The Marthas Six Moons is crossed on a Bully Bullion daughter and the Alive N Firen is crossed on a Beduino granddaughter. She's paid in full to FF and Lance Graves bought a yearling from the same mare for $23K. The dam is a 1D horse and proven 1D producer so far. So it all depends on a lot of factors. I feel like I got a really good deal on my mare, but she's also only got about 60-90 days on her as a 3 year old at this point, otherwise she would have been more I think. I know people who have paid $30K for 2D horses in the area, I know people who have gotten nice 3D horses in their teens for under $5k, one just got a 1D mare that's not bred like anything and she paid under $5K. So it's literally all over the map and dependent on where you buy I think. Time of year seems to make a difference too. Like prospects seem to be cheaper in the fall here and finished horses go up in the fall after being hauled all year. But I think $10K should get at least something 3/4D with many years left to run or a fairly well bred prospect |
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| I know where there is 3 legit 1D horses right now for 10,000 and under. Owners are needing to sell for various reasons. So I think it's the area,economic conditions and how quick owner is wanting to wanting to sell. |
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Location: Texas | it depends...
If you are a hand and can pick a diamond in the rough, it can get you a really good horse that may need a little work. Our two best horses were bought this way, both very cheap, but were risks because they hadn't competed in a long time. They are now in their mid-late teens, one of them is still competing at the 1D level and the other is taking a year off.
If you want to pay 10k for something with no problems or issues ready to go right now you are probably looking at in the 3D range, unless the horse is 15+ years old. The older the horse, the more likely you can get a good one that requires maintenance for under 20k.
10k can also get you a pretty decent prospect. Up to lightly broke 2YO... some nicer 3YOs can be bought for that if they aren't quite ready for the juvenile right now...or they were intentionally kept to run at 5. But the older they are and the more training they have, the less likely they will be willing to sell them cheap unless they really want them gone. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Mighty Broke - 2017-09-05 8:02 AM
Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-09-05 7:47 AM I think it also depends on the area your in as well. 10k here in ohio can get you a seasoned/older solid 1D horse. But it can also get you a young, broke, bred okay prospect depending on who you're dealing with.
I am in Ohio also and I haven't seen a legit 1d horse go for 10 grand unless it has a boatload of maintenance issues.
Thats why i said older lol and i didnt mean 1D as in NFR quality. Futurity quality yes |
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| Around here a finished 8-15 yr old 2/3D horse. I Bought a super nice 1/2D 17 yr old for less than that. 100% sound. Quiet in the warm up pen and at the gate. My 5 yr old rides him at her gymkanas. (I think I found a unicorn) |
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Location: Northwest | spitzh - 2017-09-05 10:48 AM Around here a finished 8-15 yr old 2/3D horse. I Bought a super nice 1/2D 17 yr old for less than that. 100% sound. Quiet in the warm up pen and at the gate. My 5 yr old rides him at her gymkanas. (I think I found a unicorn)
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to be fair, the taco came with nopales but it was still a taco
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Location: Florida.. | It wouldnt even buy a wellbred dressage yearling here in florida.
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| In the Fort Worth area, a stunning 2-yr-old with color and 30 days. By color, I mean palomino, roan, or buckskin. Of course, if it's a roan with "fling" in the name, the price will shoot to $30,000! |
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Location: California | serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. |
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Location: OH | *almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
DADDY may be though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Texas | I paid 8500 for a well bred 7 year old 1D gelding that had won money at pro rodeos .... I set all my standards by him he was amazing but I bought him from a very legit amazing person/trainer and to me that makes a difference. she made him who he was and wasn't trying to make a killin off selling him. I believe they are out there you just have to know where to look.... FYI yes he was my Unicorn and also the horse in my picture :) |
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Location: OH | AshleyJ2911 - 2017-09-06 9:15 AM I paid 8500 for a well bred 7 year old 1D gelding that had won money at pro rodeos .... I set all my standards by him he was amazing but I bought him from a very legit amazing person/trainer and to me that makes a difference. she made him who he was and wasn't trying to make a killin off selling him. I believe they are out there you just have to know where to look.... FYI yes he was my Unicorn and also the horse in my picture :)
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| *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
I wonder this every day. |
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| star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM
*almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
I wonder this every day.
I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at. |
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| I like those babies. I prefer to raise mine. I have bought several very young horses, some off the track. Trained them myself but I prefer my own babies. That is what I have had all my life. I am old now and send mine to a phenomenal trainer.
You need to understand that by the time you pay a stud fee, have the expenses of raising a baby to be a two year old, either put your own time in or pay a trainer , pay entry fees and haul one till they are winning the 1D, you probably have well over 10,000 in them. Let's face it, equine events just are not cheap. |
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| Their are enough Rich ones to get the job done and keep those high dollar horses priced high. You would be amazed at what some people will do to get that money. Second Mortgages, high Risk-High Interest Loans etc. |
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Location: Texas | When I bought my horse, at the time my husband and I had 3 trailers together ( a living quarters, a stock trailer and a two horse slant) we opted to sale the two horse and a back up team roping horse and paid for my barrel horse. |
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Location: California | classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 6:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
I make good money - I suppose I am just too financially responsible as I don't believe in taking loans against your house or other equity, etc, and I'm not too "rich" to say 10k is a lot of money. Even though I make good money, I will never be too good for Walmart or $2500 horses.
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| classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 8:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
How do you have time for horses with an 80H work week??
That being said, I wonder too. Several even 50K horses, a 125K trailer, and an 80K truck. There's either a lot more sugar daddies out there than we realize, OR people are so bottom's up it's not funny. Because a 10K to win barrel race still isn't paying for said list of stuff!
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Location: California | classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 6:59 AM
star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM
*almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
I wonder this every day.
I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
But I could say someone working your hours with your income it would make sense to buy finished winning product due to work hours |
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Location: Illinois | I have taken out a loan to purchase a horse, but didn't jeopardize any other financial commitments to do it either. I just didn't want to wipe out my savings when the right horse happened to come along a little sooner than I was planning to get one. Some people I know have paid $10K for a horse and have covered that investment with winnings at local NBHA jackpots within 1-2 seasons. Most of the season we have $25 entry fees and 1st in the 1D pays **** near $500 a lot of the time, when you have a winner its easy to make your money back quick that way. My 3D/4D barrel horse was just under $10K as an unbroke 7 year old and he's made over half that back in the 7 years I've been hauling him and I maybe go 10 times a year? So if you haul and win higher divisions, its doable. And some people just prioritize things differently. If money is tight for me, I'll eat ramen noodles so I can go to the barrel race that weekend if that's what it comes down to. Those boots with the holes? Better tape them up bc heading to the jackpot is way more important than new boots. However I'm also single with no one to support so I can focus all my efforts on barrel racing, people who have families I'm not sure how they do it sometimes. Kudos to everyone out there busting ass to do this crazy sport! |
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| classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 8:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
My husband makes lots of $$$. He has always been the first to get to the office and the last to leave. He has a set of skills that allows him to carry a huge workload, that combined with his work ethic has led to being very well paid. In the much leaner years if we could not save and pay cash for a luxury, hobby, car, we did not buy it. As he started making more $$ we continued to live/spend well below his income, paying cash and avoiding debt as much as possible. |
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We currently don't have a mortgage because we are living in a farm house on the farm my Hubby grew up on. We don't pay rent because we help run the farm in exchange. We have a nice LQ trailer.....because his mom got out of horses and gifted it to us as a wedding gift. We are not rich, but those are two big payments that give us a lot of flexibility!
One year I sold 6 horses to be able to afford a Frenchmans Guy daughter at the Myers sale. It was a win-win because I needed to get down on horses, but it also bought me a really nice one. |
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| *almost there* - 2017-09-05 9:55 PM
serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
I have a job. Lol
But seriously... there are a lot of things I consider when purchasing a horse. I could buy a high dollar animal and continue on with business as usual.
BUT
Do I have the skills necessary? No
Do I have the time to commit? No
How bad do I want it? Not bad enough.
Those are the realities that I face in life. So instead of wondering how much money people spend, I usually question how they logistically make it all work! |
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Location: South Georgia | *almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
Houses are not important to some, if you know what I mean. |
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| horsegirl - 2017-09-06 1:46 PM
*almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
Houses are not important to some, if you know what I mean.
I ask myself this every day....
or the $5,000 saddles.... I get 5k isn't a huge amount of money but those with the 5k saddles, 12 PHT blankets, wraps, etc. I just don't get it  |
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| *almost there* - 2017-09-06 11:24 AM
classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 6:59 AM
star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM
*almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
I wonder this every day.
I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
But I could say someone working your hours with your income it would make sense to buy finished winning product due to work hours
I bought one finished horse one time, we didn't click in the long run. BUT I have had the fun to purchase some very nice prospects!! |
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Location: WI | stayceem - 2017-09-06 2:14 PM horsegirl - 2017-09-06 1:46 PM *almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. Houses are not important to some, if you know what I mean. I ask myself this every day.... or the $5,000 saddles.... I get 5k isn't a huge amount of money but those with the 5k saddles, 12 PHT blankets, wraps, etc. I just don't get it
I bought my house when the market was in the tank and now have some serious equity. I dream of selling that and buying something nice (new house and horse lol). Some people get nice bonuses from work. Tax returns. Where there is a will, there is a way!
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Location: California | rodeomom3 - 2017-09-06 10:15 AM
classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 8:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at.
What career field is he in ? (If you don't mine me behind so bold in asking) |
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| and it isn't really my business how people afford what they do, I mostly wonder because I know what I make and what I go without / don't have to pay for (kids)
And I still wouldn't be comfortable spending what some do. So I wonder what I am doing wrong! LOL
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| Mighty Broke - 2017-09-06 7:09 AM
*almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
DADDY may be though !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was dumb and took a loan from my bank.... twice... they aren't even barrel horses, they are roping horses lol! |
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| *almost there* - 2017-09-06 4:47 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-09-06 10:15 AM classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 8:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at. What career field is he in ? (If you don't mine me behind so bold in asking )
He works for a multi family apartment builder. He runs the US and Mexico construction division. He started out as an on site project manager 30 years ago. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | stayceem - 2017-09-06 2:14 PM
horsegirl - 2017-09-06 1:46 PM
*almost there* - 2017-09-06 12:55 AM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich.
Houses are not important to some, if you know what I mean.
I ask myself this every day....
or the $5,000 saddles.... I get 5k isn't a huge amount of money but those with the 5k saddles, 12 PHT blankets, wraps, etc. I just don't get it
Most barrel racers I know are rich. Not me. |
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Location: California | rodeomom3 - 2017-09-06 5:41 PM *almost there* - 2017-09-06 4:47 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-09-06 10:15 AM classicpotatochip - 2017-09-06 8:59 AM star1218 - 2017-09-06 8:49 AM *almost there* - 2017-09-05 11:55 PM serious question, how do people get money to buy 10-15-80,000 dollar horses?
most barrel racers I know aren't rich. I wonder this every day. I get my money from my 80 hour week in the oilfield...you get what you put in, where you put it in at. What career field is he in ? (If you don't mine me behind so bold in asking )
I appreciate you answering! That is wonderful he is able to provide so well for his family! |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people! |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 5:48 AM
This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 5:48 AM This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
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| For me I would say say a $10,000 horse would need to be young rideable age, completely sound mind and body and broke broke broke. Not necessarily trained in anything specific but solidly broke. And be a horse anyone could ride and enjoy being around. But this is all a matter of opinion. Some people will buy $10,000 in potential. Not me. Way too many variables.
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Location: Missouri | Most I ever spent was 6,500.00 on a 15yr old 1D locally. I put him on my credit card. Both my daughters had great success on him and he was retired at 24yrs old. His last trip to youth world was at 24. Personally I'd be scared to death to spend over 10K because what if they dropped dead, lol.
The last "finished" horse I bought I paid 3,500.00 and he was 16yrs old, 2D/3D locally and was an App to boot. He did well for me and was passed on to my step son and later my daughter.
I'm now running a 300.00 horse and a 400.00 horse. One is 2D/3D and the other has just been entered for the first time this summer and he's 4D, placed 2nd in the 3D once. One will never be 1D and the colt, well, if I can become a 1D rider, he's gonna be right there.
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Location: California | Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 3:48 AM This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
It wasn't asked person specific with anyone in mind - it was a very general statement. Be embarrassed all you want, I feel absolutely no shame for it. It was a broad statement, said to a group of people that all "know" each other. Not sure why asking is so offensive. And I do mind my own business, but this however is a DISCUSSION board, where well, things get discussed.
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 5:48 AM This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
While I understand what you're saying, I can still wonder. BUT... Since it's nobody's business, that's probably why most of us DON'T KNOW how they pay for stuff! LOL
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| I rodeoed with some of those rich girls that didn't have to win to keep going. You know what? I would never had traded places with those couple girls. Their families didn't care about how they did or where they went. They just didn't want to have to deal with these girls. They bought them off. Their friends' families took them in. Some of them didn't even go home for the holidays. Why? There parents went skiing or overseas for a vacation and left them at home. Not all of the rich girls have families like that, but when I saw that as a teenager, I never cared to know who could afford what. It seemed like a bad trade off to me. |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 5:48 AM
This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
jeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... relax. I found the question made in a joking fashion. I don't care how people buy horses. Believe me, heard all the rumors and frankly I don't really care. Its more of a general question because I never have 50k just chillin in my bank account LOL.
Nothing about those posts seemed to be negative. People have great horses and some made them, some bought them. I don't care, I love my herd.
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Location: Arkansas | Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 5:48 AM
This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people!
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| I know several people who buy pricey horses and do well, they have big incomes and are hard workers if I was able I would spend it. I buy according to what I can afford to lose at the time I've spent $1000. Up to $25000. I've bought $800. Saddles up to $4000. I'm very focused I have no other hobbies no vacations wear my clothes until they are thread bare I have a decent job $30.00 an hour I started out with nothing and I still pull my 1999 four star trailer ride outside all winter that's how I do it. |
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Location: California | tin can - 2017-09-08 3:20 AM I know several people who buy pricey horses and do well, they have big incomes and are hard workers if I was able I would spend it. I buy according to what I can afford to lose at the time I've spent $1000. Up to $25000. I've bought $800. Saddles up to $4000. I'm very focused I have no other hobbies no vacations wear my clothes until they are thread bare I have a decent job $30.00 an hour I started out with nothing and I still pull my 1999 four star trailer ride outside all winter that's how I do it.
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Location: OH | *almost there* - 2017-09-08 8:53 AM tin can - 2017-09-08 3:20 AM I know several people who buy pricey horses and do well, they have big incomes and are hard workers if I was able I would spend it. I buy according to what I can afford to lose at the time I've spent $1000. Up to $25000. I've bought $800. Saddles up to $4000. I'm very focused I have no other hobbies no vacations wear my clothes until they are thread bare I have a decent job $30.00 an hour I started out with nothing and I still pull my 1999 four star trailer ride outside all winter that's how I do it. Love this, good for you
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Location: Oklahoma | 1DSoon - 2017-09-05 7:41 PM They bought Scamper for $38 and an Asado Taco
to be fair, the taco came with nopales but it was still a taco
Ah yes, but Scamper had never seen a barrel then. He was being ridden by a feed lot cowboy and I believe was pretty much an outlaw then. |
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| Guess this really doesn't apply to me since the most I've paid for a prospect is $8000, but I have money to race because I did my research, bought the truck I needed from the get go back in 2003, and have taken care of it. Rather than fall for all the pretty new toys, I have kept my rig that is paid for. Not having a truck or trailer payment puts a lot of cash in your pocket. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | You really need to consider how much it takes/costs to get a horse winning in the 1D. It costs a lot to build one. Gas and entry fees add up quickly. Do you want to spend your money $150 at a time ($100 for fuel/ $50 entry fee) and work your way up in the divisions, or run in the 1D from the beginning?
I know there are those horses out there that run in the 1D from the start, but to get them consistent and focused on their job, they need to be hauled and entered.
I have an 8 yo mare, bred out the rear, sound and built right. She is running bottom 1D, top 2D behind my gelding I won and placed at pro rodeos on this summer. Ran her at a rodeo and the lights and crowd didn't faze her. She will be easy to season. She is just being seasoned, by no means topped out. I won't take less than $25,000 for her. I know people who think she is over priced.
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Location: TEXAS | This thread really struck a nerve with me...lost a friend over it. I have an 8 yr old bully bullion bred gelding that spent a month with lindsey mcleod running solid 2d with her at the time, has ran less than .5 off some super nice horses, won me top 3d money at a big race right after I got him and still learning to ride him. He also runs poles. I will take $10,000 for him but a friend wanted him for his jr high daughter and wanted me to take $5,000 for him We've had our words a parted ways!!! |
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| slacy09 - 2017-09-12 3:05 PM
This thread really struck a nerve with me...lost a friend over it. I have an 8 yr old bully bullion bred gelding that spent a month with lindsey mcleod running solid 2d with her at the time, has ran less than .5 off some super nice horses, won me top 3d money at a big race right after I got him and still learning to ride him. He also runs poles. I will take $10,000 for him but a friend wanted him for his jr high daughter and wanted me to take $5,000 for him We've had our words a parted ways!!!
Wow, that is crazy! And also why I don't buy horses from friends. I would never ask a friend to sell me their horse for less than what they have priced them at. I don't even haggle with my friends. If I am not willing to pay the price they want, I don't buy. I don't want to hurt their feelings because I am a cheapo. That is MY problem, lol. |
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| slacy09 - 2017-09-12 3:05 PM This thread really struck a nerve with me...lost a friend over it. I have an 8 yr old bully bullion bred gelding that spent a month with lindsey mcleod running solid 2d with her at the time, has ran less than .5 off some super nice horses, won me top 3d money at a big race right after I got him and still learning to ride him. He also runs poles. I will take $10,000 for him but a friend wanted him for his jr high daughter and wanted me to take $5,000 for him We've had our words a parted ways!!!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | slacy09 - 2017-09-12 3:05 PM This thread really struck a nerve with me...lost a friend over it. I have an 8 yr old bully bullion bred gelding that spent a month with lindsey mcleod running solid 2d with her at the time, has ran less than .5 off some super nice horses, won me top 3d money at a big race right after I got him and still learning to ride him. He also runs poles. I will take $10,000 for him but a friend wanted him for his jr high daughter and wanted me to take $5,000 for him We've had our words a parted ways!!!
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| I had a friend who sold there horse for eighty..... when she figured what she paid for it at a sale,trainer,entry's to futuritys, shoes, vet, she had seventy five in it. It's an expensive game these days. I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. |
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| By the time you pay a stud fee, vet bills, feed for 5 years until old enough to compete, get them broke, spend your time or pay a trainer, you have at least $10,000. Easily. If you have a top 1D horse that is easy enough for a kid to ride and gentle, you can pretty well name your price. |
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Location: North MS | In Mississippi- a local 1D horse. 2D/3D at big shows. A true 1D Big Show horse $40-80K.
Now I've got one of the most solid 4D mares ever. Literally everytime I ran her she would get a check. If I asked $5000 for her people would probably laugh. The market is horrible here. |
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Location: Michigan | tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM
I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money.
They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better.
My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old.
New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old.
Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k.
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Location: TEXAS | rcoe - 2017-09-13 10:19 AM tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better. My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old. New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old. Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k.
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| slacy09 - 2017-09-13 12:25 PM
rcoe - 2017-09-13 10:19 AM tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better. My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old. New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old. Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k.
Oh jeez ... not that comment again
I do agree that they are out there. I hit the goldmine through a connection with nicely bred, super correct 2-4 year olds. Not much advertising and very reasonably priced. |
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Location: TEXAS | stayceem - 2017-09-13 12:32 PM slacy09 - 2017-09-13 12:25 PM rcoe - 2017-09-13 10:19 AM tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better. My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old. New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old. Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k. Oh jeez ... not that comment again I do agree that they are out there. I hit the goldmine through a connection with nicely bred, super correct 2-4 year olds. Not much advertising and very reasonably priced.
Oh geez...maybe OP hadn't thought about that. She needs to look at it from all angles! |
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Location: Michigan | slacy09 - 2017-09-13 12:25 PM
Location is a big factor, 1D is different in different states
I do not travel out of state much but a few of the top horses in the state do and I see how they run at some of the bigger shows. They are still at or near the top.
The biggest difference I see as here there might only be 10-15 horses in the 1D, but in other states there will be many more. |
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Location: East Texas | You can get a jam up older horse for that or a good younger one that needs to be seasoned |
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| *almost there* - 2017-09-07 1:33 PM Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 3:48 AM This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people! It wasn't asked person specific with anyone in mind - it was a very general statement. Be embarrassed all you want, I feel absolutely no shame for it. It was a broad statement, said to a group of people that all "know" each other. Not sure why asking is so offensive. And I do mind my own business, but this however is a DISCUSSION board, where well, things get discussed.
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| okkritter - 2017-09-16 3:51 PM *almost there* - 2017-09-07 1:33 PM Ashley Lynn - 2017-09-07 3:48 AM This has been a shocking post to me. I didn't read the entire thing because the last page embarrassed me. WHO CARES where people get THEIR money to buy THEIR horses?! Some go to the bank and borrow it, some have wealthy parents, some have very good jobs, some (like me) buy cheap stuff and train them their self, heck some may sell drugs to pay for their habit... but at the end of the day- how is this YOUR business?!? THIS is the problem I have with a great number of barrel racers, not all, but a vast majority. So many people get caught up on what everyone else is doing. Worry about YOU and YOUR horse. Not anyone else. Who cares what they have, what works for them or how they got something. If you ride a $500 saddle and your horse is winning, does it really matter if the horse next to you is packing a $5000 saddle? NOOO. My point is, do you. Stay in your own lane. Figure out what works for you and do that and quit worrying so much about things that aren't your business to begin with. If people spent half as much time and energy worrying about their own dang lives as they did worrying about how someone else had something nicer than they did, maybe in that time they could have made their 3D horse a 2d horse!! Spend your energy on bettering yourself!! Don't spend it on other people! It wasn't asked person specific with anyone in mind - it was a very general statement. Be embarrassed all you want, I feel absolutely no shame for it. It was a broad statement, said to a group of people that all "know" each other. Not sure why asking is so offensive. And I do mind my own business, but this however is a DISCUSSION board, where well, things get discussed.
have a great day :)
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| slacy09 - 2017-09-13 11:25 AM
rcoe - 2017-09-13 10:19 AM tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better. My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old. New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old. Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | SKM - 2017-09-16 8:45 PM slacy09 - 2017-09-13 11:25 AM rcoe - 2017-09-13 10:19 AM tin can - 2017-09-12 5:57 PM I miss when you could buy a twenty five hundred dollar two year old train it show it and make a little money. They are still out there I think too many just get hung up on a number, if it costs more it must be better. My daughters main horse has been a solid 2D horse for several years and also runs low 21 second pole times. Paid less than 2K as a 6 year old. New mare we got a couple years ago is running middle of 1D but still needs a bit of seasoning to become more consistant and fine tune a couple things. Paid 2500 as a 6 year old. Good horses can certainly be found for under 10k. Yes....according to most people, Texas is the only place that has true 1D horses.
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| I just picked up a mare for $8000. Fantastic papers green broke sound loads of potential she is bred to be a big time horse. So I guess you can find them lol |
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What do you expect from a $10,000 horse?