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| So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire....
She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future.
The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te)
If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!!
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| So did I get this right that the mares went over to your place? If that is the case, seems to me that she is liable and not you. |
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| I think if you have proof your stallion never escaped and her mares infiltrated your property, I would have hired a lawyer.
If her mares were bred in early February an ultrasound a couple weeks after they escaped in March should have been able to determine if they had a 6-8 week old fetus or a 16-20 day old fetus, which the vet could have aborted.
There's a lot of questions here.
To answer your present question, yes they probably do have a future as a performance horse. Their value isn't as good as if your stud were crossed on a cowbred or race bred mare, but yes they have value. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | Sandok - 2017-09-20 12:39 PM
So did I get this right that the mares went over to your place? If that is the case, seems to me that she is liable and not you.
Agreed. If her mares got out- I don't see how you are responsible?! The impressive in those colts makes them a shot in the dark. I've ridden several and they are either great or terrible, and they rarely have any kind of feet to speak of. |
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| Were the mares bred through the fence that divides your property, or did they actually come on your property? Guess we need some lawyers, but how is it your responsibility if her mares came on your property?
Hate to step on any toes, but it's irresponsibility of both owners to have fertile stock separated by a fence that does not prevent contact. |
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I'd be terribly suspicious that three mares got let in with your stallion in your absence instead of successful monkey business with three mares through a fence. js |
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If her mares got out, then that's partially on her. I'd definetely think about new fencing so your stud can't breed mares through it, you don't know if any of them had cooties. Having a stud is a huge pain and a huge responsibility, this is one reason why.
Hopefully her mares were N/N. I'm no fan of halter breds, they usually have **** poor confo. As long as they can be registered they'll still have some value. If one of my racebred mares was accidentally bred to something that wouldn't be racetrack worthy I wouldn't register the foal because it would hurt her produce record, I don't think that's the case with halter breds so hopefully they will at least get papered. I know it's probably difficult but try to be a good neighbor, **** happens, I hope she sees it that way too. All three of her mares got out and got bred, she hopefully sees her part in this. Good luck.
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| The stallion never escaped his pen and the mares came onto my property and backed up to the fence. As a side joke, they must have super fertility as this stallion isn't the one who gives out the heaviest artillery lol but if the foals are free and no further problems arise I guess taking them off her hands as she wont be able to use them wouldn't be such a bad thing. Only thing that worries me is that all foals are fillies and the mares they are out of are HYPP n/h so they could be carriers and I don't want a bad name selling a filly in the future out of my stud that could be HYPP n/h |
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Location: South Georgia | Now, I have a history showing pleasure and halter, but I'd love a cross like that! I'm a stickler for conformation, so that is like my dream cross. As with any other cross (even on running x running crosses), you'll have to find out if the resulting foal(s) have the heart for speed events. And the breeding of the 3 mares does sound nice! I realize I will be the odd man out in this scenario, however. |
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| lonely va barrelxr - 2017-09-20 2:07 PM
My stallion lives next to my broods. This year I left one open. She has tried to be bred thru the fence but it's not going to happen. I know it is statistically possible for a mare to be bred thru a fence but I call BS on it happening often. I've watched. I see how much effort goes into the process and nothing doing in the end. I can also see that if my stallion did get enough of himself over the very tall fencing to make it possible, or got enough leg in between the fencing, he would end up stuck and/or hurt.
I'd be terribly suspicious that three mares got let in with your stallion in your absence instead of successful monkey business with three mares through a fence. js
I wouldn't doubt it at this point....lets just say this isn't the first time I've found "lost" mares at my farm hanging out that happen to be in heat. Guess its time to build a perimeter fence and spend the extra money to put up a gate also....so sad. But hey if I get a nice offer, I'll just sell the stud and be done with it. |
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Location: South Georgia | ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-20 2:08 PM The stallion never escaped his pen and the mares came onto my property and backed up to the fence. As a side joke, they must have super fertility as this stallion isn't the one who gives out the heaviest artillery lol but if the foals are free and no further problems arise I guess taking them off her hands as she wont be able to use them wouldn't be such a bad thing. Only thing that worries me is that all foals are fillies and the mares they are out of are HYPP n/h so they could be carriers and I don't want a bad name selling a filly in the future out of my stud that could be HYPP n/h
True. This would be the one qualm. I hadn't seen the NH part. Cross your fingers for NN foals and you could still have nice looking, and possibly still athletic foals. |
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Location: Canada | I'd be pretty embarrassed if I was that woman and my horses got out and risked danger to your stallion. I'd sure as heck not be pitching a fit because MY mares got out. I'd be begging for forgiveness and asking for a breeding report so I could at least register the offspring.
That woman has some nerve. If she wants rid of the offspring take them. Get them registered and see what they turn out to be. You may have just been handed some lucky babies.
My rodeo mount is mostly halter/western pleasure bred. Very little on his papers screams barrel horse but he can run a set of cans so you may just have something there. :) |
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| Personally, I'd just take them, register them, get them 5 panel tested and sell them. She's out a years worth of foals, but hey, she could do the same thing! ^^^^
N/H shouldn't be bred anyways, so shame on her for doing it! Piffs me off....
Not gonna lie, there's a real good chance those colts will be quite spiffy bred like that! I had an old Impressive mare (grandsire was Impressive, so close) and she was a great all around horse, halter, pleasure, jumping, and barrels. She was old foundation on the bottom.
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| Well, good grief, how can she blame you for this? Her mares were on your property!! Ugh!!
Hate to lower your hopes, but there is so much ignorance about the Impressive bloodline I had no luck selling a beautiful, picture perfect mare I had, and she was NN! People see "Impressive" on the papers and run for the hills! You might have better luck selling them paperless! |
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| A lot of barrel horses go back to sugar bars, and I believe sierra tie had some do well in the barrel pen.
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Location: Kansas | If marketed right, I'm sure you will be able to find good homes for them, especially the sugar bars bred filly |
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Location: South Georgia | luckyjo - 2017-09-20 3:10 PM Well, good grief, how can she blame you for this? Her mares were on your property!! Ugh!! Hate to lower your hopes, but there is so much ignorance about the Impressive bloodline I had no luck selling a beautiful, picture perfect mare I had, and she was NN! People see "Impressive" on the papers and run for the hills! You might have better luck selling them paperless!
I don't really agree. I think many are just uneducated. I would not sell them paperless. For those who are aware, there is value in Impressive lines. As with any other sale, there just needs to be the right buyer. |
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| 3 free registered horses. I'm sure you can sell them for something. Did you have someone watching your farm while you were gone? Sounds like they missed one heck of a party at your place.
Corona bred horses seem to have that heavy almost halter type body as it is. My curiosity is killing me. Do you happen to have photos of these happy accidents?
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| ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-20 3:38 PM
Yes!! I'll get some pics of them! I'm just hoping they turn out not to be so heavily muscled. All else fails maybe I can use them as team roping horses since they wont have far to run lol
Haha...never drew a steer that runs like a deer? One of our favorite head horses is Streakin Six and Fols Native bred.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-20 12:34 PM So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire.... She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future. The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te) If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!! P.S. The stallion is (Corona Cartel x Takin On The Cash)
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So to clarify, the foals are registered? And you will get a bill of "sale" when she hands them over in case she comes back to say you owe her money? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I just can't figure out why or how mares are ever ran against a stallion. I don't care what kind of fence. Stallions ruin themselves pacing if it is hot and if pipe or wire how in hades do you keep them from breaking something or getting vut up.Sounds like it is her fault if he was penned. Strange to me that all 3 came in heat, were bred and no sign of gates left open or fences torn down. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-20 4:12 PM Sugar Bars is my favorite!
So to clarify, the foals are registered? And you will get a bill of "sale" when she hands them over in case she comes back to say you owe her money?
^^^^THIS ....... Sugar Bars is one of my favorites too and, over the years, I have seen MANY Impressive bred colts do well in the "performance" arena! However, I would not take them as "unregistered" ..... JMO ! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2017-09-20 4:19 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-20 4:12 PM Sugar Bars is my favorite!
So to clarify, the foals are registered? And you will get a bill of "sale" when she hands them over in case she comes back to say you owe her money? ^^^^THIS ....... Sugar Bars is one of my favorites too and, over the years, I have seen MANY Impressive bred colts do well in the "performance" arena! However, I would not take them as "unregistered" ..... JMO !
AND this too ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would not buy without papers. Is the lady going to have them registered.. And I like the Impressive horses had one and he was a smart fella, got talked out of him by a roper friend of mine and was a made into a head horse.. Regretted every day that I sold him. :( |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I just dont belive that your stud bred them threw a fence all at the same time without getting hurt, just dont make any since to me. I thought I read that they were bred all ready? Was your fence messed up any where, what type of fencing do you have? It just dont add up and how far apart are these fillys birth date? And why does this lady not have better fencing to make sure her mares are safe? I would be really ???ing her over all this. But I want to know how bad was your fencing messed up over all this, I cant believe the stud was not hurt, I would be the one really MAD..
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| Did your neighbor breed her mares to her own stud? Since you live so close the only other thing I can think of is maybe an address mix up but I am not entirely sure if that is even possible. Like maybe wrong stud name listed to wrong DNA sample or something. Maybe it's a stretch.
My uncles stud got out one time and came over to our house. All heII broke loose, fences were damaged, mares were bred and there were minor injuries. Hard thing to miss.
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| A friend had a mare and stallion on the walker and she got bred. They did not know and it surprised the heck out of them. They can do it anywhere. I do find it odd that there were three of them. Check the pedigree for PERKS ADVANTAGE. He has won more than his share of money running Barrels. DNA doesn't lie but I would get proof from her or AQHA. How would she know your stallion's name? She would have to have it. You can't match it to any stallion it has to be a specific horse |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | My first thought was that the stud got loose some how, or jumped the fence, and whoever was taking care of your place got him back, put him in his pen and never said a word. I, too, find it hard to believe some stuff wasn't damaged.
e.t.a. She certainly knew that her neighbor had a stud and was probably guilty of turning three mares in heat loose right next to a stud. Which was dumb. But, still... he didn't damage anything breeding three mares through a fence?!?! Just sounds suspicious and I'd be questioning whoever it was that was taking care of your place at the time.
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | This all sounds SUPER fishy.... Id be wanting to see vet papers to confirm this DNA test. If her mares got out its HER problem. but you dont really sound too concerned about it. I personal wouldnt want another 3 mouths to feed but thats just me. Or the fact that shes blaming this ON YOU! If you decide to take the foals good luck, but dang id be figuring something out so this doesnt happen again. It just dont add up to me |
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| your telling me that 3 mares all in heat at same time got out went to you place found your stallion bred one day all settled and had fillies. i would do dna myself. fishy fishy fishy |
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Location: In the back forty | Years ago there was a very famous TB winner on the track and it turns out a nice non-TB mare (registered in another breed association) turned up giving birth to a baby boy (which could not be registered due to no breeders certificate) but which was gorgeous. It was claimed, I think, that while the owners' of each of the horses involved (stud and mare) were neither one aware of the breeding at the time it occured--that supposedly the stallion manager was away for a short time--"someone, as a joke, let the mare in heat in with the stallion!"...these things happen, and more often than you think. All this to say that maybe someone other than the mares' owner let the mares in with the stallion, for whatever reason, while the owners were away from home. I saw a stallion at a place we were carrying a mare to be bred jump (or try to jump an 8' fence--he crawled over the top pipe-railing, landed on the ground, jumped up and bred the mare (the mare was supposedly already bred and settled by a totally different stud); weird things can happen. Think your stallion's fillies will be pretty nice in any case
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-09-21 7:52 AM This all sounds SUPER fishy.... Id be wanting to see vet papers to confirm this DNA test. If her mares got out its HER problem. but you dont really sound too concerned about it. I personal wouldnt want another 3 mouths to feed but thats just me. Or the fact that shes blaming this ON YOU! If you decide to take the foals good luck, but dang id be figuring something out so this doesnt happen again. It just dont add up to me
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Location: California | I LOVEEEEE halter/running cross bred horses. I have two and am obsessed with them. Built beautifully, long legged, muscled up, pretty heads, and they can both fly. Both were the easiest horses I have ever started and trained. I bought the second one with the race/halter cross lines because of the first one I bough purely based on conformation. I would definitely get proof of DNA and get them 5 panel tested but I think you may end up with some awesome young ones if the mares are actually quality. I will take one if you don't want them all!!! haha. Like another poster said - take the lemons and make lemonade. Sounds almost too good to be true for you in all honesty... she isn't asking for a ton of money or anything to compensate? (didn't read all the other posts) |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2017-09-20 4:49 PM I just dont belive that your stud bred them threw a fence all at the same time without getting hurt, just dont make any since to me. I thought I read that they were bred all ready? Was your fence messed up any where, what type of fencing do you have? It just dont add up and how far apart are these fillys birth date? And why does this lady not have better fencing to make sure her mares are safe? I would be really ???ing her over all this. But I want to know how bad was your fencing messed up over all this, I cant believe the stud was not hurt, I would be the one really MAD..
All of this^^^ My exact thoughts^^^
I have a neighbor with a Friesian Stallion, unproven, but to her he hung the moon. He is loose on 100 acres with mares... We used to share a fence. After a run in, my fence now has hot wire attached to the top and middle of the fence. My mare can't even get close enough to touch noses. |
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | horsegirl - 2017-09-20 1:11 PM
Now, I have a history showing pleasure and halter, but I'd love a cross like that! I'm a stickler for conformation, so that is like my dream cross. As with any other cross (even on running x running crosses), you'll have to find out if the resulting foal(s) have the heart for speed events. And the breeding of the 3 mares does sound nice! I realize I will be the odd man out in this scenario, however.
I'm with you -- I would not mind those at all.
Sierra Te, Impressive, Sugar Bars
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I think the whole deal is a load of crap personally.
If you decide to take them, have them tested. Definitely register them. If they end up n/n, you can hope, I see absolutely no reason they can't be sold as performance prospects, though you won't make tons on them. Impressive himself is triple bred Three Bars running lines. They should be large and in charge horses, though up in the air on the speed thing. I see no reason why they may not make someone a nice roping horse or even show pony that can run away with the performance halter classes. And if they are not fed like halter horses they probably won't beef up like that quite so much and their joints have a much better chance of lasting too.
Check out Fly the Red Eye. He is a race bred horse that did very well in performance halter. I imagine these fillies would have the same potential. And honestly race breds are not so lacking in muscle that someone looking to just get started in halter might think yours were a bargain to try. They might still make nice halter horses too.
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Location: North Dakota | Now I'll never own a stallion, but this is one of the reasons why I will never share a fence with a neighbor. It will always be a double fence, even if I have a eat up a few feet on my property to do it.
If you want to fight it, I'd hire a lawyer.
Either that or you have 3 free foals, if I am understanding you correctly?
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Location: Idaho | ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-21 10:34 AM
So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire....
She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future.
The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te)
If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!!
P.S. The stallion is (Corona Cartel x Takin On The Cash)
I can't say much for your situation, but I would say shame on her for breeding a N/H mare. That is what is wrong with the breeding world sometimes, but also I don't know if a stud can contract HYPP from just being bred? I might be wrong, I thought it was an inherited disorder.
But those bloodlines aren't anything special. On the Clu Heir x Coolest mare, you have some cow back there with Skippa Star (Skipper W), but then you have a double bred Impressive on the other side. I'm not a fan of Skipper W's.. but they are those horses that they either like you, or they don't.
I had a Sierra Te Gelding once and I LOVED him, he was so smart, fast, catty and willing. But he also had a lot of other bloodlines to add to the mix (Jet Deck, Go Man Go, Beduino) so that may have added to it. He was nice though.
With those Impressive horses they are a hit or miss. Those that I know who have had them love them. A lot say they are smart and willing. They won't make you a 1D horse, but they will get the job done.
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I am sorry but something is not adding up here for me. I find it so hard to believe that THREE of her mares were bred & did not catch, then just happen to get out (WHILE YOU WERE GONE) and was bred through the fence  To top it off, she is blaming you and wants you to buy the fillies... And apparently pressuring you to the point of feeling you should take the fillies.... This is NOT against you...but something, on the other end, is NOT adding up!!! I would proceed with much caution because I don't want to see you taken advantage of. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | BS Hauler - 2017-09-21 4:06 PM I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. This is the most logical post on here....
I'd take her to small claims court for 3 stud fees and breaking and entering. 
Also, get your stud tested for STDs from those Huzzies 
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | Nateracer - 2017-09-20 1:31 PM Personally, I'd just take them, register them, get them 5 panel tested and sell them. She's out a years worth of foals, but hey, she could do the same thing! ^^^^
N/H shouldn't be bred anyways, so shame on her for doing it! Piffs me off....
Not gonna lie, there's a real good chance those colts will be quite spiffy bred like that! I had an old Impressive mare (grandsire was Impressive, so close) and she was a great all around horse, halter, pleasure, jumping, and barrels. She was old foundation on the bottom.
I am with you Nateracer!
If her mares came to you; it is her fault. There are many halter people that breed HYPP mares that shouldn't.
BUT...there are many Impressive/halter bred horses that are very nice performance horses. I wouldn't be scared of them if the price was right. I have rode many of them over the years. With your stallion being the lines and the performance background; you could come out not to bad. If you really don't want to deal with the foals there are others who may want to.
But never the less she needs to sign out so you can register the foals.
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-21 4:09 PM BS Hauler - 2017-09-21 4:06 PM I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. This is the most logical post on here....
I'd take her to small claims court for 3 stud fees and breaking and entering.
Also, get your stud tested for STDs from those Huzzies
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wheres the OP I would love to hear a update to all this. Please dont leave us hanging to long.  |
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 Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
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Location: Kansas | DashNDustem - 2017-09-21 1:15 PM ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-21 10:34 AM So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire.... She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future. The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te) If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!! P.S. The stallion is (Corona Cartel x Takin On The Cash) I can't say much for your situation, but I would say shame on her for breeding a N/H mare. That is what is wrong with the breeding world sometimes, but also I don't know if a stud can contract HYPP from just being bred? I might be wrong, I thought it was an inherited disorder. But those bloodlines aren't anything special. On the Clu Heir x Coolest mare, you have some cow back there with Skippa Star (Skipper W ), but then you have a double bred Impressive on the other side. I'm not a fan of Skipper W's.. but they are those horses that they either like you, or they don't. I had a Sierra Te Gelding once and I LOVED him, he was so smart, fast, catty and willing. But he also had a lot of other bloodlines to add to the mix (Jet Deck, Go Man Go, Beduino ) so that may have added to it. He was nice though. With those Impressive horses they are a hit or miss. Those that I know who have had them love them. A lot say they are smart and willing. They won't make you a 1D horse, but they will get the job done. If you take the babies then you may have a chance of getting some money out of them. They may surprise you.
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| cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM
Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
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Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | want2chase3 - 2017-09-22 12:02 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
I remember that!
i wonder if we could dig that up or if it was removed???  |
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Location: In the back forty | Sometimes Grannies under a tree have lived long enough to have some pretty educational true tall tales to tell, JMO |
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| cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM
Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapN3MN - 2017-09-22 2:13 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.
Are you telling us that we just been taken again??  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | WrapN3MN - 2017-09-22 2:13 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.
I remember that post!!
Ugh... Someone should message the OP and ask her to come back.
Better yet, lemme use my sweet google skills and find her on Facebook. That should get the ball a rollin'  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
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Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
less than 10 minutes new record ma'am??? |
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Location: Arizona | This is a crazy story. Who paid for the DNA tests? Why should the OP pay for anything, it was her mares that got out...makes no sense to me. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
I hate it when someone makes a thread like this and then wont do any updating, I'm still wondering what type of fencing that this stud bred these mare threw all at one time and if there were any injurys? Lots of good questions on here, not saying we are againt her if this all is true, just curious how this could have happen.. Did the mares run back home after their little party?  |
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Warrior Mom
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| This is where hidden well placed cameras come in handy! I remember a very long time ago a neighbors stud horse got out and came onto my in laws place and was running my father in laws mares around, he didn't get the chance to reproduce, thank goodness! They got him caught and returned him home and called the law... the owner wasn't home but she denied the whole story about "her baby" getting out... they showed the sheriff the pics and she got busted for not having proper fencing! And I believe she got a hefty fine. |
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Location: CTX | Her last log on was on the 20th, so she just might be busy right now.
I too am curious to hear more about this.... |
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Location: Arkansas | cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 3:34 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
less than 10 minutes new record ma'am???
New record. . . . I think Google Girl has now officially become Google Woman |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Well!!! What's happening?!!! Any updates?
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2017-09-26 4:53 PM
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2017-09-26 4:49 PM Well!!! What's happening?!!! Any updates?
I doubt that you will hear from her again....too many things don't add up and she probably doesn't have the answers to the questions posted....JMO !!!! |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 3:34 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
less than 10 minutes new record ma'am???
LOL!
It's very easy to find people now a days with facebook. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Chandler's Mom - 2017-09-22 10:51 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 3:34 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
less than 10 minutes new record ma'am??? New record. . . . I think Google Girl has now officially become Google Woman
HAHAHAHA!!! You guys are my favorite |
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HELP IM IN TROUBLE!!