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A Cool Sharp One
   
| Opinions please...... I have a BOT blanket but my gelding gets really hairy during the winter and last year I noticed some burn areas and was thinking of switching to a PHT.
I would appreciate pros/cons on each if you have any experience with them.
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Location: Southern Indiana | I would say that the burnt areas were just from the blanket rubbing the hair. Longer winter hair seems to be notorious for that.
I have a couple magnacu blankets and love them. They are great quality and fit well as long as you have the correct size. I can definitely tell a difference in my older geilding when he wears it. He loves to snooze in it too! | |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I got rid of all my BOT and switched over to PHT this spring, i LOVE IT! i can see a huge difference. Like anything you have to make sure it fits right, but ive still never had any problems with my PHT. | |
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Location: Illinois | I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | You wont regret going with a PHT if you deside to switch, love mine  | |
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A Cool Sharp One
| Thanks everyone found a PHT and it should be here shortly..... now do I keep the BOT leg wraps or go with PHT? | |
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Location: North Dakota | I don't want to steal the thread, but does the amount of time you leave it on the horse make a difference in your decision? I board my horse, and he lives out in a huge pasture 24/7 so the only time the blanket would be removed is when I go out there (in the winter that is) and I don't go every day. BOT says it can be left on continuously, but idk about pht... | |
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A Cool Sharp One
| I left my BOT on my whole the whole weekend in January since I forgot his winter blanket in Jacksonville and he is pretty furry and he did have a couple of burn marks on the back area. That was a main concern of mine plus here in FL it gets very hot | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though
I'm bone on bone on my left knee and I have tried many different knee braces for when I walk. I bought a BOT knee brace and halfway through my walk I had to take it off. My knee blew up and itched for days. I now use a Tommie Copper brace and it's the bomb. I love the combo of the MagnuCue on the PHT products.
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2017-09-24 2:45 PM
I don't want to steal the thread, but does the amount of time you leave it on the horse make a difference in your decision? I board my horse, and he lives out in a huge pasture 24/7 so the only time the blanket would be removed is when I go out there (in the winter that is) and I don't go every day. BOT says it can be left on continuously, but idk about pht...
PHT can be left on continuously, BOT you are not suppose to leave on 24/7. | |
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Location: Here | cavyrunsbarrels - 2017-09-24 2:45 PM I don't want to steal the thread, but does the amount of time you leave it on the horse make a difference in your decision? I board my horse, and he lives out in a huge pasture 24/7 so the only time the blanket would be removed is when I go out there (in the winter that is) and I don't go every day. BOT says it can be left on continuously, but idk about pht...
Yes there is no maxiumum time with PHT
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Location: in the ozone | I love my BOT! We have PSSM2 horses & the BOT give them so much more relief - helps to warm muscles up and make them more comfortable | |
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Location: Northwest | I have both and use both. I don't use PHT in the winter, not sure why other than we have hard, cold winters and I like keeping my BOTs on under the winter blankets. They really help them stay limbered up. | |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though
THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
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| lopnaround - 2017-09-29 11:28 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
Me too. Never have had a piece of BOT, simply for the thought process of a heat creating element. We spend hours on cold hosing, ice boots, and other cold therapies and this wants to create heat. Nope. Not me. Not to mention when it's 95 and humid, there's enough heat in the air to give heat therapy! | |
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Location: in the ozone | Nateracer - 2017-09-29 10:40 AM
lopnaround - 2017-09-29 11:28 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
And that is why (the heat) the BOT work nicely for the PSSM2 horses. It is a horrible muscle disease and causes sore, tight muscles. The heat really makes them more comfortable. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | slipperyslope - 2017-09-30 10:36 AM
Nateracer - 2017-09-29 10:40 AM
lopnaround - 2017-09-29 11:28 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
And that is why (the heat ) the BOT work nicely for the PSSM2 horses. It is a horrible muscle disease and causes sore, tight muscles. The heat really makes them more comfortable.
Have you ever used MagnaCu? | |
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Location: Illinois | slipperyslope - 2017-09-30 10:36 AM
Nateracer - 2017-09-29 10:40 AM
lopnaround - 2017-09-29 11:28 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
And that is why (the heat ) the BOT work nicely for the PSSM2 horses. It is a horrible muscle disease and causes sore, tight muscles. The heat really makes them more comfortable.
I'd use PHT on a PSSM horse too, or find something that works better nutritionally for them. Try something like MVP In-Sync that's specifically made for horses with muscle issues like PSSM and tying up. The heat works short term yes, but creates a bigger problem long term. Put a hot pack on a sore back and for 10 minutes it feels great. Then next thing you know, the pain creeps up and its now worse than it was before you applied the heat. So you hot pack it again and a vicious cycle starts, it becomes dependent on that heat. As my chiropractor likes to say, "heat creates patients." Heat will make an injury or soreness last far longer than it would without heat, and often makes the problem worse. You could be creating a regular soreness issue by using it regularly. | |
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| can you explain a little how pht works? | |
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A Cool Sharp One
| I would not leave BOT on all day, my horse had some marks on him where it was almost like the hair was gone from leaving the BOT on too long | |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | zansbeunogal_2268 - 2017-10-03 10:47 AM can you explain a little how pht works?
This will help with information! http://www.phtmagnetics.com/aboutmagnetics.asp | |
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Location: in the ozone | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-10-03 8:41 AM
slipperyslope - 2017-09-30 10:36 AM
Nateracer - 2017-09-29 10:40 AM
lopnaround - 2017-09-29 11:28 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2017-09-22 11:41 AM I just switched from BOT to PHT. I got all my BOT stuff before anyone even knew what BOT was lol. PHT has more use I think, I can use it when it's warm out and BOT I can't bc they get too hot. I also had an interesting chat with a few human medical professionals and 2 vets about the whole concept, and they brought up a valid point. Heat is the worst thing you can do for an injury, strain, soreness, etc. It makes it better upon immediate application, but afterwords it feels worse and can actually make the injury itself worse. BOT heats up their body, that's why your quick wraps are wet with sweat after you take them off. There's a time and place for BOT still I think, maybe before a warm up. I'll use mine sheet in the winter for a few minutes before I ride, just so they're slightly warm when I get on to work. I used a quick wrap on a knee injury and they were right, it felt great right after I took it off but after about 2 hours the pain was worse. I've used magnets, Nikken, and I love them. So I switched to PHT because of the thought process behind the heat. Just some food for thought, everyone will have differing opinions though THIS! This is why I could never get on board with BOT.
And that is why (the heat ) the BOT work nicely for the PSSM2 horses. It is a horrible muscle disease and causes sore, tight muscles. The heat really makes them more comfortable.
I'd use PHT on a PSSM horse too, or find something that works better nutritionally for them. Try something like MVP In-Sync that's specifically made for horses with muscle issues like PSSM and tying up. The heat works short term yes, but creates a bigger problem long term. Put a hot pack on a sore back and for 10 minutes it feels great. Then next thing you know, the pain creeps up and its now worse than it was before you applied the heat. So you hot pack it again and a vicious cycle starts, it becomes dependent on that heat. As my chiropractor likes to say, "heat creates patients." Heat will make an injury or soreness last far longer than it would without heat, and often makes the problem worse. You could be creating a regular soreness issue by using it regularly.
I don't leave it on long term - ever. (and they are already doing really well on a proper diet for type2). But their muscles do not "warm up" easily like a normal horse so the BOT really helps that. I tried the Magna Cu & sold it. For making them feel better, the BOT has worked the best. | |
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