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| I'm in Pennsylvania working on a project and have been since the spring. I have went to several jackpots around the region, and there is one striking difference between running barrels anywhere else in the nation as compared to the north east region...the drag.
Y'all only drag every 8-15 horses. What's up with that? One jackpot in Ohio I attended ran 60 horses and didn't drag once. The norm seems to be every 12 horses, with the occasional drag 8.
I have seen, and done it myself, that the horse on the top of the ground win the race. Wouldn't that be enough to convince the population in general to drag every five?
I have also asked, casually, around the warm up pens why the people running don't demand a change? I have gotten everything from shrugs to defensiveness? I really really care about my horses legs and I just cannot understand not dragging every five?
I get the whole, "Well, at rodeos..." My answer there is that I'm not AT a rodeo, I'm at a jackpot. Jackpots ought to have better ground, hence the saying, "Trashy rodeo ground".
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | It's not a Yankee thing. I'm in the northwest and we drag every 5.  |
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| I am in Illinois. You won't find a show around here that doesn't drag every 5, 7 or 10 based upon class entries. Most the time drags are stipulated by the sanctioning association; but if it's just open jackpot, even the ground crew is smart enough to drag every 7 or 10.
I cannot imagine running 60 horses and not dragging. WOW. |
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| I've lived in NY for most of my life and every jackpot I've ever been to (including the ones PA I've attended) drag after 5 or 7. So its really not a "north east" thing per se.. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Im in ohio and when we go to big shows they drag every 5. When i go to my local asscoications shows, they pick a number (ex 6) they will run 6 then drag every 8,9,10, depending how many are in the class. Luckily we have really good ground at most the arena we run at so its never really a problem but i surely wouldnt but running if they did every 60!!! thats crazy!!! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | It isn't a Yankee thing...sounds like it's the area you are in, thing..LOL |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | WOW! I would say it is more a show producer thing for the barrel race you attended in Ohio. We live and race in Ohio and that is NOT the normal. Usually around an average of 8 at most show I have attended. I don't think I would be going back to that show if they did not drag within 60 horses, that is crazy! We even drag every 8-10 for HS rodeo. |
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| I'm in Minnesota - we drag every 5. If it's a small (50-70 horses) jackpot, sometimes we do 7-8 but mostly it is every 5. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | I'm in ND, we drag every 5.  |
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| SmokinGirlie - 2017-09-21 2:10 PM
I'm in ND, we drag every 5.
Right. I was shocked when the one I was at was only dragging every 12.
The rest of the world drags every 5... |
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| It really just depends on the show. Small/fun shows in my area of PA won't typically drag even if there is over 20 in that class. Though typically they're lucky to get 20 in a class.
As for the people's responses, some people are always on the defense. I don't run at enough big places to vouch how they do things here. Hoping next year I can hit those and see what you're talking about :) |
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| We drag every 5 regardless of how many are at a barrel race. At the beginning of another class we always drag as in after the open and youth is starting. After 50 we have a deep drag of the whole arena which we call a" big drag". Around here people often win by .001 second and no one would show up if we did not adhere to this. Classic has been to barrel races around here and when you get used to that kind of organization you just expect it.
I have seen pictures of barrel races on grass that were in the Northeast. I thought that was scary.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Did they even have a tractor? That to me is just pure laziness.. Who ever is running the barrel race should know better.  |
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| does no one here know what a yankee is? lol 
I watched a couple small races in NJ while visting family and they drug every 5 |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeolife - 2017-09-21 2:42 PM does no one here know what a yankee is? lol
I watched a couple small races in NJ while visting family and they drug every 5
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Location: Windoming | I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | The tiny town in Oklahoma I am from drug every 10-15 riders when we were at a "jackpot". Everyone there viewed it as "practice" with the chance of winning a little extra cash. I only ran a few times when I lived there....  |
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Location: Montana | We drag every 5 here too, and I'm in Montana. Guessing its just that place that does it that way? |
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| Kind of branching off of my own topic, but y'all from the northwestern states like Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, etc, I don't consider to be Yankees. :) |
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| Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM
I thought everyone dragged after five runs.................
You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. |
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| I think it depends on producer/event. All the shows I've been to produced by NBHA/IBRA (in Northeast Ohio) have dragged every 5 or so.
However, when I was in 4H, we were lucky to have the arena dragged ONCE during the ENTIRE event (dozens of timed event classes, btw). I know 4H is different from dedicated associations but, you know....
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Location: OH. IO | streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM
Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM
I thought everyone dragged after five runs.................
You get the good grammar award. Score one for you.
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| I'm not sure where you're running at but I live in New York, run in PA all the time (at least once a month), and in Ohio too, and everywhere I go they drag after whey 5, and big drags every 40 or 50 as well as between classes. We haul every weekend.
Feel free to pm me if you want to know good shows to go to. |
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| jake16 - 2017-09-22 5:14 AM
streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM
Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM
I thought everyone dragged after five runs.................
You get the good grammar award. Score one for you.
Not nice
Why is this not nice? I could pick out everyone's grammar errors like they do mine but there is not that much time in the day. Very sad someone cannot be complimentary. Wow |
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Location: OH. IO | streakysox - 2017-09-22 8:13 AM
jake16 - 2017-09-22 5:14 AM
streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM
Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM
I thought everyone dragged after five runs.................
You get the good grammar award. Score one for you.
Not nice
Why is this not nice? I could pick out everyone's grammar errors like they do mine but there is not that much time in the day. Very sad someone cannot be complimentary. Wow
People may not care at that way you choose to make fun of others,but some do notice.I don't see people picking on your grammer mistakes.In fact ,I don't really see anyone pick on you at all,but yet you put it in your posts all the time. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | turnthree - 2017-09-21 2:50 PM I've lived in NY for most of my life and every jackpot I've ever been to (including the ones PA I've attended) drag after 5 or 7. So its really not a "north east" thing per se..
I agree, I am in Maine and its usually 5-7. At the championship show or large money show its always been after every 5. |
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| classicpotatochip - 2017-09-21 1:14 PM I'm in Pennsylvania working on a project and have been since the spring. I have went to several jackpots around the region, and there is one striking difference between running barrels anywhere else in the nation as compared to the north east region...the drag. Y'all only drag every 8-15 horses. What's up with that? One jackpot in Ohio I attended ran 60 horses and didn't drag once. The norm seems to be every 12 horses, with the occasional drag 8. I have seen, and done it myself, that the horse on the top of the ground win the race. Wouldn't that be enough to convince the population in general to drag every five? I have also asked, casually, around the warm up pens why the people running don't demand a change? I have gotten everything from shrugs to defensiveness? I really really care about my horses legs and I just cannot understand not dragging every five? I get the whole, "Well, at rodeos..." My answer there is that I'm not AT a rodeo, I'm at a jackpot. Jackpots ought to have better ground, hence the saying, "Trashy rodeo ground". Would anyone like to weigh in?
Agree, I have never understood the comparison between rodeo and jackpot ground-they are completely different. I answer the same as you, if I wanted to worry about ground I would be at a rodeo but I am at a jackpot where they only have one event. |
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| Well, I'm in Iowa. Depending on arena and producer, we drag every 5-7. Local shows usually drag after 10.
Our PRCA rodeo drags after 6 I think, which splits the perf in 1/2. I'm on the Great Lakes Circuit page and they are talking about dragging after so many at all of the rodeos. Even the PRCA is realizing these horses are worth Buku bucks and are starting to take care of them.
Not dragging after 60 is simply WAY old fashioned. When I was a kid this is the way it was, but it hasn't been this way around here for probably a couple of decades. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Then don't go. It's simple. Some jackpots are meant to be more fun. If you don't like it, you don't have to participate. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I'm from NJ and every race I have been to in PA or DE drags every 5.
Maybe its just the venue you were at only drags 8-15 runs
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Location: Kansas | Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Yogi Berra........that's what a Yankee is.
I had all I wanted of watching barrel racers being allowed to "pick" their positions. Top of the ground for every horse in their trailer. That's why I'm kickin' back and lovin' major league baseball and my nearby casino.
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| TwistedK - 2017-09-22 9:25 AM
Then don't go. It's simple. Some jackpots are meant to be more fun. If you don't like it, you don't have to participate.
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Location: Windoming | jake16 - 2017-09-22 4:14 AM streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. Not nice
Haha, it's okay. Thanks for coming to my defense, but it really don't hurted my feelings, just reminds me we have gramer and speling police on this bored. Here's some ammo to make their happy! Some people never miss a chance to be rude. |
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| Silly Filly - 2017-09-22 9:53 AM jake16 - 2017-09-22 4:14 AM streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. Not nice Haha, it's okay. Thanks for coming to my defense, but it really don't hurted my feelings, just reminds me we have gramer and speling police on this bored. Here's some ammo to make their happy! Some people never miss a chance to be rude.
Full disclosure, I had to google it so I will not be winning any awards, lol, but I don't think she was being rude, you used "dragged" correctly as opposed to saying "drug" every five runs. |
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| jake16 - 2017-09-22 9:10 AM
streakysox - 2017-09-22 8:13 AM
jake16 - 2017-09-22 5:14 AM
streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM
Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM
I thought everyone dragged after five runs.................
You get the good grammar award. Score one for you.
Not nice
Why is this not nice? I could pick out everyone's grammar errors like they do mine but there is not that much time in the day. Very sad someone cannot be complimentary. Wow
People may not care at that way you choose to make fun of others,but some do notice.I don't see people picking on your grammer mistakes.In fact ,I don't really see anyone pick on you at all,but yet you put it in your posts all the time.
Streaky was actually being complimentary (nice). It's just that we are so used to everyone sniping at each other that we mistake an actual compliment as underhanded sarcasm. How freaking sad for this forum. |
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Location: Windoming | rodeomom3 - 2017-09-22 10:01 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-22 9:53 AM jake16 - 2017-09-22 4:14 AM streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. Not nice Haha, it's okay. Thanks for coming to my defense, but it really don't hurted my feelings, just reminds me we have gramer and speling police on this bored. Here's some ammo to make their happy! Some people never miss a chance to be rude.
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Location: CTX | Silly Filly - 2017-09-22 9:53 AM jake16 - 2017-09-22 4:14 AM streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. Not nice Haha, it's okay. Thanks for coming to my defense, but it really don't hurted my feelings, just reminds me we have gramer and speling police on this bored. Here's some ammo to make their happy! Some people never miss a chance to be rude.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I will say after living in Illinois and going to shows in Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa and Kentucky and now Texas. You can find good and bad barrel races, no matter where you live. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Silly Filly - 2017-09-22 11:15 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-09-22 10:01 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-22 9:53 AM jake16 - 2017-09-22 4:14 AM streakysox - 2017-09-22 12:25 AM Silly Filly - 2017-09-21 3:09 PM I thought everyone dragged after five runs................. You get the good grammar award. Score one for you. Not nice Haha, it's okay. Thanks for coming to my defense, but it really don't hurted my feelings, just reminds me we have gramer and speling police on this bored. Here's some ammo to make their happy! Some people never miss a chance to be rude.
Jake is a very sweet and protective kinda of lady, if she feels like someone is being picked on he will say something unless its something that needed to be said, lol.. But the mommy came out in her in this. So nothing wrong with that. I like seeing mommy cat taking care of their kittens 
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Location: NE Pa-Gods Country | i don't know where you have been running, but here on the eastern side of PA the drags are every 5...big drags at 40. i wouldn't go to one that did not drag and water the pen at 5. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | You have never raced in Missouri then?
It's not Yankee thing. Back in the day before NBHA took off, in PA we would drag every 7 to 12 depending on the show etc. Most times there's no reason to drag every five. Top ground doesn't garauntee good ground. |
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