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| I have a mare who literally makes me think she is trying kill me in the holding pen. She will stand quietly until asked to move then be comes totally uncontrollable, bouncing me off the fences like a pinball! She is the sweetest, best behaved mare you will ever be around with NO quirks or issues. She is a tank and built to stay sound and has no obvious issues. Now for what I have done to try and help the issue. $2, 000 in vet checks, ulcers, ovaries, stifles, 3 flexion tests, teeth done twice, plenty of chiropractor work, hocks injected due to small amount of arthritis. She is on a mare herb blend, mvp magnesium 5000 and tribute feed, one scoop a day. A man can get on her and she is fairly calm going in, when I get on, she can run sideways as she can forward. I have also tried chloropromazine an hour before running. Help! |
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Location: Mississippi | I have a friend whose horse does kind of the same thing and he does better if she has another horse help her in. Have you tried having a friend or 2 on each side walk in with you? This doesn't solve her issue by any means but it does help make it a bit more manageable. I know if it were me, this wouldn't be something I could put up with - I do this to enjoy myself and have fun. Granted this horse usually runs top of 1D most anywhere so I guess it's hard to say if I would tolerate it since I have never had one of that level. |
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| We had a gelding that developed gate issues like you are describing, also spent a lot of money looking for a physical issue. Th current trainer was not one who would ride your horse at an event so we sent him to one that would. She worked with him for two weeks, entered him several times, dropped his head and walked in flat footed. Tells us he is ready for my daughter, the first time she entered he went back to how he was before the trainer and pitched a fit. She said he was just taking advantage and next time be ready with a whip that will hurt, when he starts up get hold of the reins, say his name and no as you hit him ONE time as hard as you can. That fixed it and in ten years he has never hesitated a step again. |
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom3 - 2017-09-22 3:33 PM We had a gelding that developed gate issues like you are describing, also spent a lot of money looking for a physical issue. Th current trainer was not one who would ride your horse at an event so we sent him to one that would. She worked with him for two weeks, entered him several times, dropped his head and walked in flat footed. Tells us he is ready for my daughter, the first time she entered he went back to how he was before the trainer and pitched a fit. She said he was just taking advantage and next time be ready with a whip that will hurt, when he starts up get hold of the reins, say his name and no as you hit him ONE time as hard as you can. That fixed it and in ten years he has never hesitated a step again.
Yep both horse and rider need to be trained together. Work the gate at home more than you do anything else-set up different scenarios that mimic places you encounter and have problems. It can be a slow process but must be something that is done to make sure you and the horse are safe. Learn to be calm and that the horse is looking for YOU to be confident in what you're both doing! |
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Brittany Pozzi's horse, Duke, was one nasty SOB at the gate. He'd rear, paw, strike and run all over the place. You can't tell me that he wasn't trained right and was ridden by someone that he took advantage of.
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| Sorry haven't responded, been very busy. More info. She was blown up bad when I got her, spent the last two years slow working and trying to figure her out. I only had stifles and hocks xrayed. Didn't scope for bleeding. I really think she may just have my number. If a man jumps on her she is fairly good at the gate. I only ran her a handful of times the first year because I felt like mentally she needed a break. I'm just hoping we aren't missing a physical issue. Yes, she also will run into people if I am not careful. She does not walk in with another horse, I wish! Hidez mask, no good. She is great on the pattern and a real barrel hunter. I hate this issue! |
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| Hocks and stifles. She was giving some signs of hind gut ulcers, but nope. |
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| turtleaut - 2017-09-22 3:01 PM
I have a friend whose horse does kind of the same thing and he does better if she has another horse help her in. Have you tried having a friend or 2 on each side walk in with you? This doesn't solve her issue by any means but it does help make it a bit more manageable. I know if it were me, this wouldn't be something I could put up with - I do this to enjoy myself and have fun. Granted this horse usually runs top of 1D most anywhere so I guess it's hard to say if I would tolerate it since I have never had one of that level.
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| RockinGR - 2017-09-22 3:12 PM
I had a horse with bad gate problems when I got him. He'd come from a younger (high school age) girl that was intimidated by him, he'd been thoroughly vetted and given time off to be sure it wasn't pain. He'd flat run over what ever was in his way and after about flipping over on the asphalt and almost running into someone's vehicle...we had us a "come to Jesus meeting" with a stinger whip. Only had to do it once. He'd still be antsy, but he didn't refuse again or try to run over anyone or anything.
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| JcNhEmI - 2017-09-25 6:37 PM
If you've ruled out pain, and she is doesn't do it with another ride then she's got your number and is bullying you. Kick her ass and show her you're the boss!
I really do try, but sometimes she is scary! Guess I just need to get tougher. If I didn't hate horse shopping so much I would have given up by now. |
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| SKM - 2017-09-22 4:23 PM
Honestly it depends on the horses personality too. My daughters horse wants to go in so bad to work that you simply can't stop her. She's funny about small spaces. Her issues started when they had to go through a roping box at a high school rodeo. You just growl at this mare and she thinks you're killing her. Hit her? Good luck with that. Start thumping on her, even once, and it will probably take all her try away because in some ways she's extremely timid. At rodeo's, she gets a pickup man to walk with her. If it's a roping box set up, she leads her in the rider before, has someone hold the mare, she gets on and turns to go. If it's a side gate, she tries to sneak into the gate with another horse, keeps the nose tipped towards the fence, eases her over and then turns and goes.
Brittany Pozzi's horse, Duke, was one nasty SOB at the gate. He'd rear, paw, strike and run all over the place. You can't tell me that he wasn't trained right and was ridden by someone that he took advantage of.
I truly do feel this is part of it. She comes off as this tough mare, but in some ways it's like she has no confidence. I get nervous and it doesn't matter what horse. I thinkmaybe she needs that and that's why she responds better to these guys who ride for a living.. I'm not a drinker but tried a couple of beers before running. Didn't work. |
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Location: OH. IO | jake16 - 2017-09-26 9:59 PM
How did you treat the ulcers?
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| Not to be mean but I'd probably be finding her a new job. I can understand many gate issues and trying to fix them however when it becomes a safety issue then it's time to rethink their barrel racing career.
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | ULCERS, ULCERS, ULCERS!!!! We have a horse that can also become down right dangerous at the gate but fine once in the arena. Spent tons of money trying to figure it out but only saw a huge improvement after treating for ulcers (even though the test came back negative). We were lucky at first and just a dose of Ulcer guard a few hours before running would help, did this for about 2 years. Then this summer, he returned to his more dangerous behaviors. We just ran him this weekend after about 2 months off and started on a daily fed ulcer control; He was calm at the gate and in the holding pen.
Not going to lie though he is corky as hell, as well. He is much calmer when I lead him in; I joke all the time that I am his security blanket. He HATES WALK IN GATES!!!! I mean HATES THEM. He is strictly a chute horse. Line him up and get the heck out of his way. We have a small show, that I have been part of for years, but we are going to stop running him there (after years of trying every different approach) because they have small side gates. People think he is a raving lunatic there but he enjoys the rodeo environment. Also we REALLY limit the number of runs he makes in a day and never sees a barrel outside of competition.
I wish you so much luck, I FULLY understand how frustrating this is. I know some say she has your number, all I can say is if we "discipline" our horse at the gate, it turns dangerous fast & is counter productive. Every horse is so different and it can be such a long and frustrating process. We stuck with our horse because we know that we have a nice horse that we could not afford if he wasn't so corky. It takes a lot of time and patience. |
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| TryingToStayOn - 2017-09-27 8:28 AM
Have you taken her to events and just hang around the alley and not made a run? I was taught to make the alley a calm place. Never go to the back of the alley and just sit on your horse. Always keep them moving. If the show allows walk in and out the alley during drags. Get your horse comfortable with the alley and not always anticipating a run. One of the worst things to do is stand by the alley before your run. Always keep them moving. Now I will admit I haven't run barrels in years so shows may not allow the practice of walking in and out of the alley during drags. If they don't, go ride at an arena without a show going and work on the alley issue.
Done this. She stands until you ask her to move, then she tryst to escape the holding pen. Straight rodeo alley and she's fine. It's like her brains ooze out of her ears! |
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| Rolling J - 2017-09-27 9:06 AM
ULCERS, ULCERS, ULCERS!!!! We have a horse that can also become down right dangerous at the gate but fine once in the arena. Spent tons of money trying to figure it out but only saw a huge improvement after treating for ulcers (even though the test came back negative). We were lucky at first and just a dose of Ulcer guard a few hours before running would help, did this for about 2 years. Then this summer, he returned to his more dangerous behaviors. We just ran him this weekend after about 2 months off and started on a daily fed ulcer control; He was calm at the gate and in the holding pen.
Not going to lie though he is corky as hell, as well. He is much calmer when I lead him in; I joke all the time that I am his security blanket. He HATES WALK IN GATES!!!! I mean HATES THEM. He is strictly a chute horse. Line him up and get the heck out of his way. We have a small show, that I have been part of for years, but we are going to stop running him there (after years of trying every different approach) because they have small side gates. People think he is a raving lunatic there but he enjoys the rodeo environment. Also we REALLY limit the number of runs he makes in a day and never sees a barrel outside of competition.
I wish you so much luck, I FULLY understand how frustrating this is. I know some say she has your number, all I can say is if we "discipline" our horse at the gate, it turns dangerous fast & is counter productive. Every horse is so different and it can be such a long and frustrating process. We stuck with our horse because we know that we have a nice horse that we could not afford if he wasn't so corky. It takes a lot of time and patience.
She scopes clean for fore and hind gut ulcers. She doesn't have even one. She also does good with a straight alley, just turns psycho in some of these side gate traps we hanging on around here. Took her to one a couple of weeks ago that had center gate, sent her from there and it was all good. She shoots straight to the left holding pen sideways like it's a safe place. In other words if she goes to the right one she knows she's running and refuses to go in the right side. However, coming from the left is costing me time and sometimes makes a bad first barrel. |
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| jake16 - 2017-09-26 8:59 PM
How did you treat the ulcers?
Didn't. She was checked for fore and hind gut ulcers and not even an abrasion. Nothing! I really thought it was her issue, but vet couldn't find any. |
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| turnthree - 2017-09-27 8:41 AM
Not to be mean but I'd probably be finding her a new job. I can understand many gate issues and trying to fix them however when it becomes a safety issue then it's time to rethink their barrel racing career.
I know you're not being mean and I understand what you are saying. I have had 3 men run this mare and there is very little to no resistance, just on the muscle and I am ok with that. I believe part of it is me because she can be so intimidating. This time last year she even fell apart on me at home and I wouldn't even ride her so I have come along way with her. I am now hauling her a competing so I have gotten more confidence. We considered training her as a head horse, but I'm not sure she willhandle that side, maybe heeling so she doesn't have to be as quiet. I do not run at home and really don't even Lope her a lot. One of my dearest friends told me I am going extreme on not blowing one up and I need to put pressure on her at home to teach her to handle it. Maybe there is something to that?! |
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Location: OH. IO | sharpone - 2017-09-27 3:28 PM
jake16 - 2017-09-26 8:59 PM
How did you treat the ulcers?
Didn't. She was checked for fore and hind gut ulcers and not even an abrasion. Nothing! I really thought it was her issue, but vet couldn't find any.
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Is it possible to walk circles instead of standing in the holding pen? Try to always keep her on the move even in the holding pen. |
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| This is going to sound 100% insane but have you tried to sing a song while walking to the gate. If not, try it. Sing it out loud/slightly under your breath. When you are in that situation, you dont realize how much your body freezes up. If you sing a song, you have to breathe and your body will relax. I was taught this several years ago. Never had a horse refuse a gate again. My mare was so bad, she flipped over on me in the alley. |
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Location: Kansas | I don't know how much if any of this will help you, but it's some ideas.
I bought one with a dangerous gate issue as a possible fix & flip project last August, and he actually has been walking in flat footed at side gate rodeos.
Here's our routine: - I warm up away from the gate. Get off, hand walk him, let him circle around me, bump me with his head etc., until they are 3 people away from me.
- Then I slowly tighten his cinch and step on when the person 2 before me is finishing their run. If I'm #4, I step on when #2 is at the 3rd barrel.
- Matt pets him and talks to him while I put my rubber bands on .
- When they call my name, we take off walking straight to the gate. If Fred gets antsy, Matt talks to him some more and I pet his neck.
- Matt usually turns us loose a couple steps before the gate and we walk in flat footed alone.
- After we run, I come out and step off as soon as I can get my rubber bands off. I loosen the cinch, Matt and I both pet him, and I head back to the trailer to strip him, give treats and water.
Fred has figured out a few things with us - We are NOT going to whip him near the gate. We don't put up with stupid behavior. If he spins circles or tries to lunge away from Matt, Matt growls "FRED!" at him and if necessary (only once or twice so far) will smack him on the nose. Once we run, we're done and we LEAVE the arena area. It's all business and we don't hang around by the gate AT ALL. |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Buy a bottle of essential oil. I suggest Rosemary. Put a drop on your hands when you do things that she likes. When you groom her, or feed her, or do anything relaxing. Get her to look forward to the smell. After a couple of weeks, use the oil at a run but don't run her. Then use the oil at a run and run her. Smells are powerful. |
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| TryingToStayOn - 2017-09-27 5:00 PM
sharpone - 2017-09-27 2:16 PM TryingToStayOn - 2017-09-27 8:28 AM Have you taken her to events and just hang around the alley and not made a run? I was taught to make the alley a calm place. Never go to the back of the alley and just sit on your horse. Always keep them moving. If the show allows walk in and out the alley during drags. Get your horse comfortable with the alley and not always anticipating a run. One of the worst things to do is stand by the alley before your run. Always keep them moving. Now I will admit I haven't run barrels in years so shows may not allow the practice of walking in and out of the alley during drags. If they don't, go ride at an arena without a show going and work on the alley issue. Done this. She stands until you ask her to move, then she tryst to escape the holding pen. Straight rodeo alley and she's fine. It's like her brains ooze out of her ears!
Usually she's to busy bouncing off the fence. This worked on my old mare if she got antsy, but she was a stay in your hand kind of mare and didn't like to get in trouble. |
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| spitzh - 2017-09-27 5:33 PM
This is going to sound 100% insane but have you tried to sing a song while walking to the gate. If not, try it. Sing it out loud/slightly under your breath. When you are in that situation, you dont realize how much your body freezes up. If you sing a song, you have to breathe and your body will relax. I was taught this several years ago. Never had a horse refuse a gate again. My mare was so bad, she flipped over on me in the alley.
Too funny! My friend had me try this, but can't say it helped much. But I now know all the words to twinkle twinkle little star! |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2017-09-27 5:51 PM
I don't know how much if any of this will help you, but it's some ideas.
I bought one with a dangerous gate issue as a possible fix & flip project last August, and he actually has been walking in flat footed at side gate rodeos.
Here's our routine: - I warm up away from the gate. Get off, hand walk him, let him circle around me, bump me with his head etc., until they are 3 people away from me.
- Then I slowly tighten his cinch and step on when the person 2 before me is finishing their run. If I'm #4, I step on when #2 is at the 3rd barrel.
- Matt pets him and talks to him while I put my rubber bands on .
- When they call my name, we take off walking straight to the gate. If Fred gets antsy, Matt talks to him some more and I pet his neck.
- Matt usually turns us loose a couple steps before the gate and we walk in flat footed alone.
- After we run, I come out and step off as soon as I can get my rubber bands off. I loosen the cinch, Matt and I both pet him, and I head back to the trailer to strip him, give treats and water.
Fred has figured out a few things with us - We are NOT going to whip him near the gate. We don't put up with stupid behavior. If he spins circles or tries to lunge away from Matt, Matt growls "FRED!" at him and if necessary (only once or twice so far) will smack him on the nose. Once we run, we're done and we LEAVE the arena area. It's all business and we don't hang around by the gate AT ALL.
I think staying away from the arena and makeup arena does help. It just seems like a trick only works once. I did ride her in the holding pen for 3hrs. About a month ago during warmups and with the exception of a couple of fits, she wasn't bad. Just not sure that is a good approach. I hauled her to the same arena 2 weekends in a row, she got so bad she wouldn't come out of the makeup pen to go to the main arena. |
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| CanCan - 2017-09-27 7:10 PM
Buy a bottle of essential oil. I suggest Rosemary. Put a drop on your hands when you do things that she likes. When you groom her, or feed her, or do anything relaxing. Get her to look forward to the smell. After a couple of weeks, use the oil at a run but don't run her. Then use the oil at a run and run her. Smells are powerful.
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| spitzh - 2017-09-28 4:33 PM This is going to sound 100% insane but have you tried to sing a song while walking to the gate. If not, try it. Sing it out loud/slightly under your breath. When you are in that situation, you dont realize how much your body freezes up. If you sing a song, you have to breathe and your body will relax. I was taught this several years ago. Never had a horse refuse a gate again. My mare was so bad, she flipped over on me in the alley.
I love this.. I have never heard anyone suggests this.. I was also taught this years ago.. When I tell people to try it, they think I am crazy. So if you hear me singing.... You know why :) |
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| MY good, old rodeo mare had horrible gate issue when I got her, stemming from oversized, painful ovaries/multiple follicles. I got her I January and we had some issues, especially in crowed conditions. I once found myself with my leg pinned hard against a panel with two or three lead ropes of horses tide to those panels against my back with folks in front dragging and pulling one her and someone behind poking and pushing (there was NO room to wield a whip). She knew every trick in the book to avoid going in.
In March with her first heat cycle, she refused to stop , slamming in to the wall, kicking her shoes off in the trailer and her slamming her body against the trailer, panels, walls etc., took us immediately to the vet who announced her ovary was the size of a grapefruit! (should be the size of a walnut). After a summer of trying every known way to deal with ovaries , while piecing together her history (it looked like someone tried to "train" her female problems away....she had scars on her poll where someone had used bare wire as a tie down... and lumps left over in her neck where she had previously had hormone implants....we got rid of the pain.
As far as her gate issues, I had learned to stay clam and relaxed, despite everybody trying to hurry us in the gate, and I "ASKED' her to go in rather than demand....and she did. Crowded situations would still find us plastered to another horse if they did not clear away, but as long as we had a relatively clear runway, she went in no questions asked.
The mare I run now came to me with a history of gate issues and I have had her refuse mildly once or twice but most times she goes right in. Sometimes the rider's anxiety magnifies the issues as was the case with this mare.
Years ago my old App could refuse with the best of them. First it took a chain over his nose with someone leading him in. then I learned to spin him tightly for a few revolutions then ask and eventually he gave up the fight.
A friend who has had one or two with bad gate issues has had luck using a plastic bag on the end of a long stick. She teaches the horse to move forward by someone on the ground shaking the bag then does the same when approaching the gate.
The point is, the reasons for refusal are different and the solutions can be just as varied. If this horse is going in for other riders, then my guess is that she has your number. The solution is likely to be unique to you and your mare. Listen to what has worked for others, try what you can and go with what works for you. So keep the suggestions coming folks!
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Location: Canada | spitzh - 2017-09-27 5:33 PM
This is going to sound 100% insane but have you tried to sing a song while walking to the gate. If not, try it. Sing it out loud/slightly under your breath. When you are in that situation, you dont realize how much your body freezes up. If you sing a song, you have to breathe and your body will relax. I was taught this several years ago. Never had a horse refuse a gate again. My mare was so bad, she flipped over on me in the alley.
I teach riding lessons and use this for all beginners. I make them sing LOUDLY. The process of having to take in air and exhale, plus focusing on the song vs what the horse is doing makes a major difference in their body relaxation.
Honestly... If this was me I'd stop running her at places that have a side gate or holding pen. You're risking injury to yourself, your horse, and others by taking her to places where she becomes unglued with other people around. The last thing you want is her to run off blind and injure a rider, a bystander or another horse. I'd call ahead to producers and find out the set up and just not run at places you know she isn't going to do well at.
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Location: OH. IO | sharpone - 2017-09-26 9:46 PMSorry haven't responded, been very busy. More info. She was blown up bad when I got her, spent the last two years slow working and trying to figure her out. I only had stifles and hocks xrayed. Didn't scope for bleeding. I really think she may just have my number. If a man jumps on her she is fairly good at the gate. I only ran her a handful of times the first year because I felt like mentally she needed a break. I'm just hoping we aren't missing a physical issue. Yes, she also will run into people if I am not careful. She does not walk in with another horse, I wish! Hidez mask, no good. She is great on the pattern and a real barrel hunter. I hate this issue! X-ray the feet,treat for ulcers,x-ray the back.what did you do for ovaries?ultrasound???? I don't think the hind gut got proper testing for ulcers??personally I believe you are missing a pain problem,also scope for bleeding.
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Location: Dearing, GA | JcNhEmI - 2017-09-25 6:37 PM If you've ruled out pain, and she is doesn't do it with another ride then she's got your number and is bullying you. Kick her ass and show her you're the boss!
I kinda agree with this, but before you get aggressive with her, I'd recommend poppin a Xanax and seeing if you being calm changes anything. Especially if you're 100% certain she's sound and she doesn't do it with other riders. |
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| Well heading to vet again Thursday. She is short striding in back and crossing left hind over in front of right.  |
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Location: Arkansas | Please come back with an update; hope it's nothing major. . . |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Any update? |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Any update? |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | jake16 - 2017-10-06 9:46 PM
Any update?
Maybe no news is good news?? |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Bump for update |
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| Sorry, WiFi has been down. First thing at vet was failed flex test on left front fetlock. We opted for full body scan due to several positive reactions for pain. Arthritis in upper hock joint as well as lower. Right one being the worst. We believe this was causing stifle and si pain as those xrays were clean. However vet is more worried about fetlock sincexsincexray doesn't show anything. If it flair up again in the spring or the winter off doesn't heal, we will do mri. Treatment plan is off until spring then we will do osphos and inject upper and lower hocks and see if this helps. Praying the fetlock is not serious as he thinks we can handle the hocks. Then of course comes the mental part as I believe this has been going on for a while and missed by previous vets or it has got really bad in a short amount of time. This is the 3rd time I have xrayed shocks in 2 years. Right now she is done riding through winter, getting msm, sore no more on hocks, fetlock, hips and stifles, wearing bot wraps, sheet and hock boots for a short while each day and poultice occasionally and cold hosing. So a little pray and any advice would be appreciated. I love this mare!  |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Thanks for the update.VERY glad she got to vet.:) |
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| Lol this is the 3rd vet, 4th trip this year. 4 trips to chiropractor. we just couldn't determine if it was pain or attitude. Unfortunately I know of 2 other horses that wouldn't go near the gate, but put a man on them and all was well. Only to find out later they both had a serious issue. Horses! So wish they could talk!! |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | sharpone - 2017-10-12 9:39 PM
Lol this is the 3rd vet, 4th trip this year. 4 trips to chiropractor. we just couldn't determine if it was pain or attitude. Unfortunately I know of 2 other horses that wouldn't go near the gate, but put a man on them and all was well. Only to find out later they both had a serious issue. Horses! So wish they could talk!!
I'm so glad she has you and you're willing to do the work to help her out. I hope the time off helps her and next year is better for both of you |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-13 12:38 AM
sharpone - 2017-10-12 9:39 PM
Lol this is the 3rd vet, 4th trip this year. 4 trips to chiropractor. we just couldn't determine if it was pain or attitude. Unfortunately I know of 2 other horses that wouldn't go near the gate, but put a man on them and all was well. Only to find out later they both had a serious issue. Horses! So wish they could talk!!
I'm so glad she has you and you're willing to do the work to help her out. I hope the time off helps her and next year is better for both of you
Thanks! Me too, I love thismare and know what she is capable of. She is built to last, but of course anything can happen. Great confirmation, good bone and weighs in at 1220lbs at almost 15.1 hands and the sweetest mare ever. Keep the good thoughts coming. |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 2:53 PM What has been x rayed?
Sometimes its just easier to pay more and scan it all. Hope some time off will help |
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Bad gate issues!