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| I'm always casually looking around to see what's on the market...
I'm a more timid rider so I prefer horses that are quiet and relaxed, yet willing with a big motor.
I currently have two that fit the bill. One is a son of Nik Dell out of a FWF daughter. The other is a daughter of FWOTR out of a DTF daughter. While they both have a lot of speed, they will both willingly go at whatever pace I ask. I trust them both.
What other bloodlines typically fit that bill?
I do not like hot, nervous, or challenging. One crowhop and I'm out!! ??
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I think most First Down Dash sons fit that bill but it may also depend on the dam's lines. I had a son of Burrs First Down (FDD x Beduino daughter). He's been gone a few years and still holds a big piece of my heart. He was very kind and willing but boy could he haul it!
I'm riding a son of Firewater Finale out of a Shoot Yeah mare that is really laid back and willing. Mostly been ranching on him but I had a chance to run him in poles at an AQHA show that was coming up. So I was worked him on Poles a handful of times and had him running a nice set in 2 weeks...then I got rained out for the show lol. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If they have Sugar Bar anywhere on their papers then you got my attention. I love Sugar Bar bred horses.. They are a very kind horse with a soft eye.  |
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  Location: Southeastern Idaho | I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses.
We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point.
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       Location: Montana | I have a Playgun x Easy Jet gelding that is really quiet and willing...a little bit looky on the trail, but not spooky, he just rubber necks at everything, LOL. In the arena, he is all focus and he is so athletic and smart, he's only seen the barrel pattern less than 10 times and he's already figuring it out. He has really nice bone and conformation too. I wouldn't mind having more of them in the future bred this way.
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| I have a FWOR mare- very athletic but will go whatever speed you want. I also have a Perks Alive mare - same way except she LOVES attention where the other likes attention. |
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       Location: North Dakota | I think my current 6-year-old gelding has bloodlines that typically do NOT produce a quiet horse ... yet he is calm and laid back as they come! Super gentle and sweet; he's already a good horse for a kid. I know he has the speed as I've clocked him at just under 41 mph on a straightaway, but he just hasn't learned he supposed to get excited and run in a barrel pattern yet (best he's done is 3D so far ... but less than a year actually competing). But I just enjoy his personality so much. He walks in and walks out and goes the speed I ask him. He's coming along.
He's a grandson of Mr. Illuminator ... who I believe tends to give horses with attitude? (correct me if I am wrong). I just know that Jill Moody's Dolly was a bit more than a firecracker in the warmup pen.
On the mare side, he goes back to some racing blood, Country Rebel and Laughing Boy.
Pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/babys+gotta+shotgun
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      Location: Mississippi | luvropin - 2017-09-28 4:46 AM I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses. We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point.
This really interests me. I have a Sunfrost/Driftwood gelding that is scared of everything and cannot focus away from home. He is just about to wear out my patience! |
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     Location: Northwest | Southtxponygirl - 2017-09-28 7:16 AM
If they have Sugar Bar anywhere on their papers then you got my attention. I love Sugar Bar bred horses.. They are a very kind horse with a soft eye. 
I was going to say this! I'm planning on breeding my Sugar Bars Granddaughter in 2018 because her mind and willingness paired with her athleticism are bar none. I have to have another ..... Now I just have to narrow done my stud list!!  |
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  Location: Southeastern Idaho | I am not a fan of spooky for sure. Our LSOF is the spook in our herd. I found what works best with him is to ride him by the "scary" thing and not react myself. If we make him go over there and look at it, it just gets worse. So ride by, put a leg in him if he overreacts and doesn't keep moving forward. Found that this works the best for him.
I found that I have to get the DW/Suns a job pretty quickly or we start having issues with boredom.
I do struggle with my main rope horse at rodeos, where she is fidgity and doesn't like to stand still. Not a fan of the bronc riding at all! So we walk. and walk and walk till they call my name. This has worked really well. Keep those feet moving and she stays calm and I stay calm because I am not getting angry with her. I don't worry about her working once we back in the box...she works.
I am not saying these bloodlines are completely trouble free...what is? But I have found this particular group of horses want to please and haven't (knock on wood) chosen to buck when they get upset. They are sensitive to correction so I need to make sure I show them the correct way the first time (pressure on me for sure) and quietly correct. |
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   Location: OH | wildride - 2017-09-28 11:54 AM luvropin - 2017-09-28 4:46 AM I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses. We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point. This really interests me. I have a Sunfrost/Driftwood gelding that is scared of everything and cannot focus away from home. He is just about to wear out my patience!
Interesting---I have ridden a ton and some can be watchy (is that a word) LOL. But I have never had any that were spooky. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2017-09-28 11:19 AM wildride - 2017-09-28 11:54 AM luvropin - 2017-09-28 4:46 AM I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses. We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point. This really interests me. I have a Sunfrost/Driftwood gelding that is scared of everything and cannot focus away from home. He is just about to wear out my patience! Interesting---I have ridden a ton and some can be watchy (is that a word) LOL. But I have never had any that were spooky.
I've got a Sun Frost /Driftwood/ Streakin Six filly and she's definitely not spooky. She looks at things, but haven't found anything she's terrified of yet. Mostly she's a nosy nut who wants to know everything you are doing. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | 07milch - 2017-09-28 11:06 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-09-28 7:16 AM If they have Sugar Bar anywhere on their papers then you got my attention. I love Sugar Bar bred horses.. They are a very kind horse with a soft eye.  I was going to say this! I'm planning on breeding my Sugar Bars Granddaughter in 2018 because her mind and willingness paired with her athleticism are bar none. I have to have another ..... Now I just have to narrow done my stud list!! 
I think Sugar Bars was quite a awesome fella, love love his line..
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| Cajun Perks On Fire.
I had a daughter of his, and have known several, and they are all the most mellow easy going horses. |
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| luvropin - 2017-09-28 9:46 AM
I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses.
We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point.
I also have a Sunfrost/Driftwood mare who is the quietest mare I have ever ridden. She is 3 this year and I have taken her to barrel races, trail rides off-site (and at home), nothing bothers her. She tries to please and is smart with a lot of natural ability. I am super excited about her future.
I also love firewater finale and if he is still breeding when/if I decide to breed my mare, he is at the top of the list. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2017-09-28 10:43 AM
I have a Playgun x Easy Jet gelding that is really quiet and willing...a little bit looky on the trail, but not spooky, he just rubber necks at everything, LOL. In the arena, he is all focus and he is so athletic and smart, he's only seen the barrel pattern less than 10 times and he's already figuring it out. He has really nice bone and conformation too. I wouldn't mind having more of them in the future bred this way.
I think the looky part is the cow bred in him, 4 of our 5 are cowbred and all of them are like this - not spooky but they are always very aware of their surroundings. Our 5th is also a bang up rope horse but cowy by training not breeding (all run) and he is the quietest to ride out. |
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   Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | Firewater Ta Fame! All of his babies are exceptionally kind and easy to get along with. They are born broke, no silliness what so ever. I have 3 of them all out of different mares. They just want to please. That's why I have 3 - I don't want to ride anything else lol |
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| Forgot to add PYC horses- my friend has a 2 year old Freighttrain B filly and she is one of the best minded horses I have seen. I met Second Painted Sign and he's great minded as well. Overall I hear great things about them. |
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Lots of the Bully Bullion's and Wonder Otoe's are very quiet and willing. Great minds. |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | JLBerry - 2017-09-29 8:46 AM
Firewater Ta Fame! All of his babies are exceptionally kind and easy to get along with. They are born broke, no silliness what so ever. I have 3 of them all out of different mares. They just want to please. That's why I have 3 - I don't want to ride anything else lol
We have a yearling filly. Not yet ready to ride but she sure is sweet as apple pie. She will come a mile across the pasture to say hello. |
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| Only one mention of A Smooth Guy - does anybody else have experience with them? One has caught my eye (out of a Rare Bar daughter). |
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      Location: California | OhMax - 2017-09-28 3:31 PM
mtcanchazer - 2017-09-28 10:43 AM
I have a Playgun x Easy Jet gelding that is really quiet and willing...a little bit looky on the trail, but not spooky, he just rubber necks at everything, LOL. In the arena, he is all focus and he is so athletic and smart, he's only seen the barrel pattern less than 10 times and he's already figuring it out. He has really nice bone and conformation too. I wouldn't mind having more of them in the future bred this way.
I think the looky part is the cow bred in him, 4 of our 5 are cowbred and all of them are like this - not spooky but they are always very aware of their surroundings. Our 5th is also a bang up rope horse but cowy by training not breeding (all run ) and he is the quietest to ride out.
Very interesting, have had a couple of royally cow bred (the lenas and docs etc, not old quarter horse like king and driftwood) and they were both hot and looky, it would make riding really uncomfortable sometimes. One was a 1D horse and another a team penner. Sold them both as it got to the point where I didn't enjoy working them. Absolutely stunning conformation and athletisicm though.
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    Location: California | I had a Sun Frost horse that was extremely quiet and willing. Had a few quirks but he was amazing. I have since then ridden a few more and if I could afford to buy a barn full I would. Unfortunately, they seem to be 8-10k when they hit the ground from what I have found. |
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   Location: OH | Sun Frost--Sun Frost--and some more Sun Frost. LOL. Been breeding them now for 17 years and it is the best decision we ever made.
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      Location: Mississippi | Mighty Broke - 2017-09-28 6:19 AM wildride - 2017-09-28 11:54 AM luvropin - 2017-09-28 4:46 AM I have started to really appreciate a quiet and willing attitude as I get older. I found a driftwood/sun frost bred filly a few years ago and I liked her so much I went back to the ranch and bought 2 more bred like her. Have enough fire/speed to catch cattle competitively (roping), ranch on them all day (they go anywhere), and put anyone on them. Can't have enough of these horses. We also have a 5 year old Lions Share of Fame son that fits your description. QUIET but has an engine for sure. Big and strong. Turned into my husbands main ranch mount. I don't think you could pry him out of his cold dead hands at this point. This really interests me. I have a Sunfrost/Driftwood gelding that is scared of everything and cannot focus away from home. He is just about to wear out my patience! Interesting---I have ridden a ton and some can be watchy (is that a word) LOL. But I have never had any that were spooky.
He is definitely "watchy", but he also will drop out from under you and wheel around while "watching". He also is scared of any type of ground change (like from dirt to grass, or dark to light, etc.). He is very strange. Very athletic, but so "watchy" he can't focus. Any suggestions? |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I have a 2 year old On A Gator o/o a Judge Cash daughter that is wonderful minded. Catches on quick and does whatever you want him to. I also have an Honors A Bounding o/o the same mare that is VERY quiet and willing. He loves attention and no drama.
ETA: My HAB, Captain Biankus crosses are nice as well.
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I have been around many of them and they are all quiet and good minded but athletic and ready to get the job done. |
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| OldSchoolCowgirl - 2017-10-03 3:12 PM
Bully Bullion - especially on the dam's side.
I have been around many of them and they are all quiet and good minded but athletic and ready to get the job done.
Really?! I've only known 2 Bully Bullions (owned one) and both wanted to do everything their way, and with attitude. I didn't enjoy riding mine at all!!! He was Easy Jet on the bottom (and I generally love Easy Jet horses). |
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