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Location: Ky | texpat - 2017-10-01 7:21 PM Did any of you see Hot Shot up close? How tall was he? Was he well-conformed (any flaws)? He seemed to have massive hindquarters. What made him so formidable? All input appreciated. Thanks in advance, all.
I got to meet him in Memphis, acutally the Showplace not really in Memphis, around 2003-2004. We went without an entry just to see the great Hotshot. The family was very gracious. I didn't measure him but he wasn't a tall horse. I'm guessing 14.2-14.3 tops. Very well put together. Wide as a tank!! Very, very good natured horse at the stall.
We were in the presense of greatness and it showed. Buckskin has always been my favorite color too.
My favorite horse of all time that was owned by someone else is and always will be Marshian Moon. Probably knowing the Lettermans so well and seeing MM so often but Hotshot was the better horse.
But when I start thinking about all time horses I am drawn to memories of Rooster.
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Location: Kansas | He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it. There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them. I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.
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| I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good. |
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| streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM
I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.
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| Frodo - 2017-10-01 7:43 PM
He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it. There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them. I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.
I don't think Hot Shot had near the soundness issues Louie has had though, but I could be wrong. When they'd try to leave Hot Shot home he'd get upset, I don't think he wanted to retire :-) |
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| Meep.Meep - 2017-10-01 8:11 PM Frodo - 2017-10-01 7:43 PM He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it. There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them. I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.
I don't think Hot Shot had near the soundness issues Louie has had though, but I could be wrong. When they'd try to leave Hot Shot home he'd get upset, I don't think he wanted to retire :- )
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| streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.
Janet didn't qualify on him, her horse was hurt so Peyton called her and offered to let her run Hotshot at the finals. Janet got most of her advice about running him from the late great Ed Wright. She called him every night after her run to see what she should do different. Stienhoff's were already using him and bought him while Janet had him at the finals. The broadcasters announced on tv that he had just sold as a Christmas presant to a young girl (stienhoff).
That is what Uncle Ed said about Janet & Hotshot's time at the NFR anyway.
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | Hot Shot was very plain and pretty common looking until he entered the arena. I was fortunate enough to watch my best friend set the arena record at the Josey Ranch on him in 2000. The 15.596 that he ran there still stands as the arena record today. |
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| Meep.Meep - 2017-10-01 8:10 PM
streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM
I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.
Peyton made it to the NFR first on him, the gal that trained him.
I didn't say that Janet trained him. I said Janet put her touch on his training. She can tweet mine anytime. |
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| streakysox - 2017-10-01 9:46 PM
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streakysox - 2017-10-01 7:47 PM
I stood next to him at Josey's when he was there once. I would say 14-2 or 15 hands. That has been along time ago though. He was formidable because he ran hard and turned hard. Janet Stover qualified for the NFR on him and ran him there. I am sure Janet put her touch on his training. She still is good.
Peyton made it to the NFR first on him, the gal that trained him.
I didn't say that Janet trained him. I said Janet put her touch on his training. She can tweet mine anytime.
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Location: Oklahoma | Living in eastern Oklahoma, I got to see Hotshot run quite often. HE NEVER SLOWED DOWN! From the time he entered the alley to the time he left. He had a remarkable efficient turn and maintained speed all the way around. I remember his first fun back after a suspensory injury, when Tierney started riding him. I wanted to watch to see if he could make a comeback. He won the jackpot by 4 tenths! I kind of feel like Hotshot created the need for a 5D because he would often be in the 1D all by himself, even at big races. There will never be another one like him!  |
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Location: Kansas | When I saw him at Guthrie, I remember seeing shoes on him that were built up pretty high in the back. It was like seeing a person with orthopedic shoes. You couldn't miss it.
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Meep.Meep - 2017-10-01 8:11 PM Frodo - 2017-10-01 7:43 PM He didn't seem conformation-wise nearly on the same level as Lisa Lockhart's Louie but had a lot of good things going for him. Obviously he loved his job and was darn good at it. There are just those "special" horses out there and he was one of them. I think a lot of us would have liked to have seen him enjoy a few retirement years.
I don't think Hot Shot had near the soundness issues Louie has had though, but I could be wrong. When they'd try to leave Hot Shot home he'd get upset, I don't think he wanted to retire :- )
If I recall correctly I believe hot shot did have soundness issues and had to be de nerved. I vaguely remember hearing that way back in the day.
I never knew that. Learn something new everyday 
If he hit a barrel, she immediately pulled up, they were very cautious of how they used him. I saw him at NBHA youth world for a few years, it was amazing how the arena filled up to watch him run. I can’t imagine running a horse that you know all eyes are on you. |
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| He was cloned in 2011? I didnt realize that.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | FLITASTIC - 2017-10-02 10:37 AM
I don't know why anyone bothers to clone these days, none of the clones seem to have any of the same talent as the origional. lol
I don't know if that's completely fair. Most of the clones literally cost so much to produce at six figures that most people are not willing to risk them by competing on them.
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| oija - 2017-10-02 10:58 AM FLITASTIC - 2017-10-02 10:37 AM I don't know why anyone bothers to clone these days, none of the clones seem to have any of the same talent as the origional. lol I don't know if that's completely fair. Most of the clones literally cost so much to produce at six figures that most people are not willing to risk them by competing on them. I am on the fence about the whole cloning thing overall.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | rodeomom3 - 2017-10-02 12:45 PM oija - 2017-10-02 10:58 AM FLITASTIC - 2017-10-02 10:37 AM I don't know why anyone bothers to clone these days, none of the clones seem to have any of the same talent as the origional. lol I don't know if that's completely fair. Most of the clones literally cost so much to produce at six figures that most people are not willing to risk them by competing on them. I am on the fence about the whole cloning thing overall.
I want to believe that this is the reason that Charmayne cloned Scamper. I don't think she was ready to let her life long friend go...
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Location: Weatherford, TX | jd&ez - 2017-10-01 7:41 PM texpat - 2017-10-01 7:21 PM Did any of you see Hot Shot up close? How tall was he? Was he well-conformed (any flaws)? He seemed to have massive hindquarters. What made him so formidable? All input appreciated. Thanks in advance, all. I got to meet him in Memphis, acutally the Showplace not really in Memphis, around 2003-2004. We went without an entry just to see the great Hotshot. The family was very gracious. I didn't measure him but he wasn't a tall horse. I'm guessing 14.2-14.3 tops. Very well put together. Wide as a tank!! Very, very good natured horse at the stall.
We were in the presense of greatness and it showed. Buckskin has always been my favorite color too.
My favorite horse of all time that was owned by someone else is and always will be Marshian Moon. Probably knowing the Lettermans so well and seeing MM so often but Hotshot was the better horse.
But when I start thinking about all time horses I am drawn to memories of Rooster.
I would love to see Hotshot and Rooster hook up with both in their prime.
OMG....Marshian Moon.!!!! That is a blast from the past. I know the thread is about Hotshot, but Marshian Moon was the so amazing back in the day around that region/area. Nice to see old bloodlines brought up. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Hotshot wasn't over 14.2 and looked like a roping horse. I remember when he bucked Peyton off at a rodeo and broke her wrist. Didn't she win Rookie of the year on him and qualified for the NFR in like 97? |
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Oh how you have to love the world of barrel racing. HotShot passed away in 2011 and is still a main topic. To clearify a few things... Yes he was cloned and the clone stands at our house in Vinita, Ok his oldest colt crop is 3. HotShot did not have any soundness issues other than a torn suspensory and came back strong from that to go on and win multiple world titles. The horse truly loved his job and when we tried to keep him at home he truly was heart broken. He was never ready to retire because at the age of 24 when he passed he was still kicking butt. He was trained by Peyton Raney . Janet Stover ran and won the world on HotShot in 2001. He was a Christmas gift that year to my oldest sister and they announced it during one of her runs. HotShot stood at 14.2 and he might have been small but had a heart bigger than most. If anyone has any question we would gladly answer ?? |
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| stayceem - 2017-10-02 7:32 PM
From Taylor Steinhoff's Facebook page:
Oh how you have to love the world of barrel racing. HotShot passed away in 2011 and is still a main topic. To clearify a few things... Yes he was cloned and the clone stands at our house in Vinita, Ok his oldest colt crop is 3. HotShot did not have any soundness issues other than a torn suspensory and came back strong from that to go on and win multiple world titles. The horse truly loved his job and when we tried to keep him at home he truly was heart broken. He was never ready to retire because at the age of 24 when he passed he was still kicking butt. He was trained by Peyton Raney . Janet Stover ran and won the world on HotShot in 2001. He was a Christmas gift that year to my oldest sister and they announced it during one of her runs. HotShot stood at 14.2 and he might have been small but had a heart bigger than most. If anyone has any question we would gladly answer ??
I didn't think he had any soundness issues. Glad to "hear it from the horses mouth". And I remember them saying he'd be so upset if he was left at home. Why retire a horse that is sound and wants to go do what he loves? Thanks for posting this! I love a little horse!!!! |
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Location: OH. IO | stayceem - 2017-10-02 8:32 PM
From Taylor Steinhoff's Facebook page:
Oh how you have to love the world of barrel racing. HotShot passed away in 2011 and is still a main topic. To clearify a few things... Yes he was cloned and the clone stands at our house in Vinita, Ok his oldest colt crop is 3. HotShot did not have any soundness issues other than a torn suspensory and came back strong from that to go on and win multiple world titles. The horse truly loved his job and when we tried to keep him at home he truly was heart broken. He was never ready to retire because at the age of 24 when he passed he was still kicking butt. He was trained by Peyton Raney . Janet Stover ran and won the world on HotShot in 2001. He was a Christmas gift that year to my oldest sister and they announced it during one of her runs. HotShot stood at 14.2 and he might have been small but had a heart bigger than most. If anyone has any question we would gladly answer ??
Of course he's still a main topic.No matter how long ago he passed people still remember and think of him.I would be so proud of that:)He was truly amazing and to forget him or not be curious if you never saw or ran against him would be just sad. |
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Location: Arkansas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-02 9:22 AM
Hot Shot's Story and Tribute by the BBR for those of you who aren't familiar. It'll make you cry https://youtu.be/nyCvAiXd94I
Yep, made me cry. . . How old was he when he died? And what happened?
What an amazingly huge heart and so much grit in a not-so-big body. He was truly a legend.
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| jake16 - 2017-10-02 7:54 PM stayceem - 2017-10-02 8:32 PM From Taylor Steinhoff's Facebook page: Oh how you have to love the world of barrel racing. HotShot passed away in 2011 and is still a main topic. To clearify a few things... Yes he was cloned and the clone stands at our house in Vinita, Ok his oldest colt crop is 3. HotShot did not have any soundness issues other than a torn suspensory and came back strong from that to go on and win multiple world titles. The horse truly loved his job and when we tried to keep him at home he truly was heart broken. He was never ready to retire because at the age of 24 when he passed he was still kicking butt. He was trained by Peyton Raney . Janet Stover ran and won the world on HotShot in 2001. He was a Christmas gift that year to my oldest sister and they announced it during one of her runs. HotShot stood at 14.2 and he might have been small but had a heart bigger than most. If anyone has any question we would gladly answer ?? Of course he's still a main topic.No matter how long ago he passed people still remember and think of him.I would be so proud of that: )He was truly amazing and to forget him or not be curious if you never saw or ran against him would be just sad.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-02 9:07 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-02 9:22 AM Hot Shot's Story and Tribute by the BBR for those of you who aren't familiar. It'll make you cry
https://youtu.be/nyCvAiXd94I Yep, made me cry. . . How old was he when he died? And what happened? What an amazingly huge heart and so much grit in a not-so-big body. He was truly a legend.
I don't know the details of his death. I believe he was 24 when he passed and I believe he was still in tip top shape and running when he passed. But again, don't quote me on that.
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| IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-03 8:54 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-02 9:07 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-02 9:22 AM Hot Shot's Story and Tribute by the BBR for those of you who aren't familiar. It'll make you cry
https://youtu.be/nyCvAiXd94I Yep, made me cry. . . How old was he when he died? And what happened? What an amazingly huge heart and so much grit in a not-so-big body. He was truly a legend.
I loved the video.
Yes according to his post, he was 24 and he had made a run not long before his death. Sure a legend that will always be remembered. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | punkypower - 2017-10-03 4:57 PM I havent read through this but my thought would be get a hold of any of Team Steinhoff, any one of the girls or Gary. They would be more than willing to answer all your questions about Hot Shot and then you would know the real deal.
is it against the interweb law to talk about it here?
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | 1DSoon - 2017-10-03 3:58 PM
punkypower - 2017-10-03 4:57 PM I havent read through this but my thought would be get a hold of any of Team Steinhoff, any one of the girls or Gary. They would be more than willing to answer all your questions about Hot Shot and then you would know the real deal.
is it against the interweb law to talk about it here?
Agreed! Most people know every detail of hotshots life after he moved in with the Steinhoff family, he was one of the most highly published horses in history... the cool thing about many of the people on here is that we knew him way before he became the mega superstar that the three Steinhoff girls made him. It’s fun to share and hear stories other than what you could read in the barrel horse news! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | punkypower - 2017-10-03 3:57 PM I havent read through this but my thought would be get a hold of any of Team Steinhoff, any one of the girls or Gary. They would be more than willing to answer all your questions about Hot Shot and then you would know the real deal.
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Location: the other T-town, Oklahoma | Southtxponygirl - 2017-10-03 5:03 PM punkypower - 2017-10-03 3:57 PM I havent read through this but my thought would be get a hold of any of Team Steinhoff, any one of the girls or Gary. They would be more than willing to answer all your questions about Hot Shot and then you would know the real deal. Is there a problem here???
Oh my, not on my end. There are so many questions and who better to answer them than the Steinhoffs themselves. They love talking about him too and sharing their stories with everyone. |
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Location: the other T-town, Oklahoma | 1DSoon - 2017-10-03 3:58 PM punkypower - 2017-10-03 4:57 PM I havent read through this but my thought would be get a hold of any of Team Steinhoff, any one of the girls or Gary. They would be more than willing to answer all your questions about Hot Shot and then you would know the real deal. is it against the interweb law to talk about it here?
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Location: Ky | Hotshot was an awesome horse and he should be discussed. When we met him in Memphis we drove down there, about 4 hours, just to see him.
We didn't have a horse entered. We took our trailer as our hotel for the weekend but that whole trip was to see Hotshot. I thought he was a beautiful horse. He would win a halter class that I judged.
I sat outside and talked to two all time greats, Bob Hess and Bobby Stivers, about Hotshot. They both said he was the best they had ever seen. That's high praise coming from those two.
I did mention that Marshian Moon was always my favorite horse. They both said that MM wasn't in Hotshot's league. And that's also a mouthful because both of them had competed on MM.
Horses like Hotshot, Rooster, Brave Phantom, Marshian Moon, Scamper, Dial A Red Rooster and a few others just don't come around that often.
They are the bedrock horses of this sport. They are the bellweathers that others will be measured against as long as there is barrel racing.
Keep talking about them because they deserve to be remembered.
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| stayceem - 2017-10-03 3:49 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-03 8:54 AM Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-02 9:07 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-10-02 9:22 AM Hot Shot's Story and Tribute by the BBR for those of you who aren't familiar. It'll make you cry
https://youtu.be/nyCvAiXd94I Yep, made me cry. . . How old was he when he died? And what happened? What an amazingly huge heart and so much grit in a not-so-big body. He was truly a legend.
I loved the video. Yes according to his post, he was 24 and he had made a run not long before his death. Sure a legend that will always be remembered.
I think he had been retired although they kept riding him. From an article:
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| I have always loved Hot Shot. Saw him run at Reno when he kicked butt to the tune of 35k or thereabouts. His turns were so efficient!! I think I remember that he wore aluminum wedge shoes in the front. I remember cuz my horse was wearing them too. But you know how memories are. Sometimes not reliable! But that's what I remember. He won the pot of gold race they used to have at the end too, in addition to everything else. They drove all the way out here, and it was worth it. I remember standing in line behind the rider that year (Tanya?) waiting to order videos and picking the music and she picked the song "fast as you" for her video. Appropriate!
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