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| Do you ever wonder that every horse you see for sale is for sale for a reason? Like there has to be something wrong with it that they are not telling you and you are going to find out the hard way? Going back into the buying market gives me anxiety. I had a friend get burned bad by buying a horse with horrible alleys issues but was being sold with no problems and a 2D barrel horse. First race and every race after that she took horse too reared straight up in the air with her and spun refusing to go in. And if she did get her in, it was ugly. Girl said she has never done that before but sorry the money was already spent and refused to take horse back. |
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| I don't think there is always something wrong. Some people know what they have and realize there is equity in a horse. Some just need to thin down their herd. Some train them and sell them when they are worth more than what they gave for them. Buyers have to do extensive homework. Yes, there are bad people out there who will lie. Lots of them. If possible buy from someone you know. Or a person who has a good reputation with references. ..and always vet check.
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Location: Kansas | that is why there are PPE, and you should try to ride the horse before you buy it. Unfortunately, not everyone is/will be honest about a horse they are selling. If you find one that is, that is a godsend lol |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | No. I don't assume that. One man's (or woman's) trash is another's treasure. Every horse I've ever bought, someone wanted to sell. Some worked out SUPER for me and some didn't and I sold them. Some of the ones I sold worked out SUPER for the new buyer and so on.
Now I raise horses and I think most of them worked out SUPER for the buyers. I try to raise horses, that have a good mind and will have some value to many people.
People need to understand horses aren't perfect just like people aren't. If they don't like something about the horse, decide to live with it, change it or sell the horse. All my horses are for sale for a price except for a few old mares that I raised and have a sentimental attachment to and my stud. |
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| She rode this horse and said it did amazing! They met a mutual location with an arena and the horse didn't bobble once. Took her to a barrel race that week and horse went straight up with her. And like I said did everytime after that. Makes me wonder if she was drugged. Luckly she is an honest person and disclosed that the horse had an alley problem. Had a hard time selling her but moved her on. The family that bought her thought they could fix her. Funny thing we saw the horse changed hands several times more after that. Saw her with someone at a barrel race and was still doing the samething. |
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| Every horse that I've ever sold, was one I knew I was going to sell before I even bought them. I love training and reselling horses! I have never sold a horse because of a reason other than to make money. I know this isn't always the case, but I've always been very honest about vices and bad habits. When buying one, I usually look for problematic horses or untouched horses. So I usually know what I'm getting in to from the start! I couldn't imagine trying to buy an already going horse...seeing ones that people knowingly are trying to get rid of because of issues that they are not disclosing...very sad =[ |
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| I don't. Horses have personalities as different as people, and sometimes they don't mesh with their particular owner but will do beautifully with another owner. Let alone the riding style that one person loves and another doesn't. Some people want the very laid back 'bomb proof' horse, some want the high-powered high-energy free running horse. Some people sell one the minute there is a problem, and some people love problem horses and love the ah-ha moment when the horse comes around and isn't a problem anymore.
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| I currently have 7, none had any behavior or soundness issues beyond a couple that needed a little routine maintenance that was disclosed and confirmed via vet check. Now I did go through trying a lot of horses to find the right one for me, some of those definitely had reasons beyond what was disclosed as to why they were for sale. I tried one that I fell in love with, priced cheap for what he was, a just sit there, same run every time, bottom 2D/3D which is where my ability is. I was told he had a fall, could never find exactly what hurt, starting having isssues ducking to the right, switched him to the left and no more problems. They did not lie but when I dug a little deeper, there were no vet records from the fall and he had only been to the left twice so I had to pass. Edited to add I won't buy a horse they won't let me try at a race if I personally don't know the horses history. Sorry that happened to her, it stinks :(
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | Horses don't always go up forsale because there is something wrong with them. I have a big stout well bred mare. She was the "late" hubby's mare. I called her his EBM (evil B***H Mare) not because she is a nasty mare... but because I'm the "other woman" and her and I are not friends. That being said everyone else likes her. So. I'll get a video of her when I've got someone available to do that. And I'll sell her, or something. It's taken me a while to make that decision. But there isn't anything wrong with her... just wrong between her and I. She'll be a great horse for SOMEONE ELSE! |
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| Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!  |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I don't assume that at all. And I have had friends show and ride around me for years and then let someone new ride their horse and see it react in some crazy ways. You have to think how different so many people ride. I am a very soft and quiet rider on colts and my husband is more aggressive. Not in a mean way, but when he asks one to do something he wants it to move now. I have had 60 day colts never give me a bit of trouble and he gets on one and puts more heel in them than I ever did and gets a reaction I never would.
When I run barrels though I ride pretty aggressive and up over them. If I had a friend get on that was soft and quiet, I bet they would try some stuff or at least not give them the same ride I would get out of a horse. So not all horses are sold on a lie...and this comes from someone that does seem to keep getting burned, at least on broodmares.
I raise horses so at some point they are all for sale. We have a 5 yr old that my husband really loves how he rides out to ranch on etc. But he prefers a horse thicker made and this fella is out of a TOTC daughter that is racier and lacks some substance. He looks just like her. Once we have something else that fits his style better, my husband will sell his current horse. Unless something happens between now and then he will sell with no issues. He is a very gentle horse and I always sell horses to people with everything I can possible tell about them. |
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Location: South Georgia | Firemanswife - 2017-10-03 3:27 PM Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!
I had not seen that but I wish I had! LOL |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | Firemanswife - 2017-10-03 3:27 PM Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!
LOL, I'd love to see that ad!!
I am a skeptic (been taught by sellers), so yes, I always assume something is wrong, but I now know enough to check more things out, pull blood on the spot, etc. I no longer buy broke horses, so I don't have to worry so much now.
I have bought horses with nothing wrong, but not as many as I bought that had hidden issues. Watch out for the non-sweaters also, people don't always disclose that.
Buyer beware, buyer check it out, buyer don't assume anything. Buyer ask more questions, buyer research, buyer make phone calls to verify information given by sellers, buyer get extensive vet check, buyer pull blood.
It really stinks when you get stuck with someone's junk, then You have to disclose the issues (because you're a nice person), and no one will buy it unless you take less than half of what you paid. Therefore, it's worth the time, effort and money to Check Out Everything prior to purchase.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Pony Available at your own risk… Meet Presley (AKA Satan) (Got the first name, Earned the other) American Mutt Pony (AKA Welsh/ QH cross) 3 yr old gelding (still thinks he is a stud) (Gelded 3 weeks ago) 13 hands of fireball He isn’t broke to ride and most days barely broke to lead. ( If you can even catch him) *He ran the streets of Garrard Co for 6 months before Animal Control could even catch him. * He DOES rear buck and kick a little bit. Even a bite on occasion (Especially if you try to touch him) You can pick up his feet (if you have a death wish. )
He would excel as a bronc prospect (for little Cowboys) or maybe to be good at just being a lawn mower. Or ( if you don’t value your life) a trail or show pony.
His drug of choice is Ace.
He also likes eating you out of house and home and getting fat on air.
But he does have some ok things about him. He has that gorgeous color every pays for. He respects fences. He gets along great with other horses. (Especially mares) He is cute as a button. He will remind you to pay your health insurance on time. He loads in a trailer great. (If you can catch him or screw it, just run him in and he loads right up) He loves horse treats (will take them with or without chunks of your hand.) He has had a saddle on once after a tube of ace and a lot of blood, sweat and tears (mostly mine) He is a beautiful mover (while trying to catch him you will see this movement a lot)
So if your looking for your next million dollar mustang project he is your man!!
$200.00 fee (so the “canners” AKA meat buyers stay away)
Will sell on a NO buy back contract! !
Come on all you professional horse trainers he could build you a resume that will get you a tv show if he doesn’t put you in the ground trying… So if you are up for the challenge PM me…
Don’t miss out on this amazing opportunity to show the world your as crazy as people think you are!!
Free bottle of tequila with purchase! ! (You will need it)
Only “Very” experienced need apply!!!
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| Firemanswife - 2017-10-03 2:27 PM Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!
Here is the one we speak of:
Hurricane sale! Another CHEAP HORSE! 2k This one is a son of Zoomin For Bux. We call this kind the ' in your pocket bronc' , unlike Floyd you can pet this one ! Ol scooter...He's fat, slick and doesn't have a hair out of place. Scooter doesn't want to work for a living , y'all know who he woulda voted for !
He's broke , kinda ... been to two colt starters and he failed kindergarten twice. Things to know about this creature. 1) he's safe safe safe on the ground! 2) he will buck ya ass off ! Not a crow hop but a down and dirty get you close to Jesus buck. 3) if the creek will rise a little more with ol' Harvey he may not be available long so hurry for your chance to own a piece of history ! He's going to make someone famous, and not in a good way...
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| I was literally laughing so hard at the ad and comments I could not breath! Especially the one about a women trying to convince her husband she needed him. And James replied if you are looking to get divorced he is for you!
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | scwebster - 2017-10-03 3:41 PM
Firemanswife - 2017-10-03 2:27 PM Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!
Here is the one we speak of:Hurricane sale! Another CHEAP HORSE! 2k This one is a son of Zoomin For Bux. We call this kind the ' in your pocket bronc' , unlike Floyd you can pet this one ! Ol scooter...He's fat, slick and doesn't have a hair out of place. Scooter doesn't want to work for a living , y'all know who he woulda voted for ! He's broke , kinda ... been to two colt starters and he failed kindergarten twice. Things to know about this creature. 1 ) he's safe safe safe on the ground! 2 ) he will buck ya ass off ! Not a crow hop but a down and dirty get you close to Jesus buck. 3 ) if the creek will rise a little more with ol' Harvey he may not be available long so hurry for your chance to own a piece of history ! He's going to make someone famous, and not in a good way...
I know James very well too, and let me promise you- if Kames says he will buck, he’s a bad cat!! I’ve seen him turn some trash into treasures! If he can’t fix him, or Justin his SO... I DONT want him!! Lol |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-10-03 3:53 PM scwebster - 2017-10-03 3:41 PM Firemanswife - 2017-10-03 2:27 PM Did any of you happen to see that guy post about a horse not to long ago and was brutally honest about it! It was hilarious! The horse didn't want to work for a living and would make someone famous in a bad way. He also said this horse bucked, like get you close to Jesus buck! The whole ad was great! He was not negotiable on price either!
Here is the one we speak of:
Hurricane sale! Another CHEAP HORSE! 2k This one is a son of Zoomin For Bux. We call this kind the ' in your pocket bronc' , unlike Floyd you can pet this one ! Ol scooter...He's fat, slick and doesn't have a hair out of place. Scooter doesn't want to work for a living , y'all know who he woulda voted for !
He's broke , kinda ... been to two colt starters and he failed kindergarten twice. Things to know about this creature. 1 ) he's safe safe safe on the ground! 2 ) he will buck ya ass off ! Not a crow hop but a down and dirty get you close to Jesus buck. 3 ) if the creek will rise a little more with ol' Harvey he may not be available long so hurry for your chance to own a piece of history ! He's going to make someone famous, and not in a good way...
I know James very well too, and let me promise you- if Kames says he will buck, he’s a bad cat!! I’ve seen him turn some trash into treasures! If he can’t fix him, or Justin his SO... I DONT want him!! Lol
I am going to agree totally with you there! :) |
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| I sold a horse because I was expecting my first child and trying to afford racing with daycare was impossible at the time. Nothing wrong with him. Everyone who rode him, loved how broke and soft he was. I sold another horse who wasnt going to make it in the barrel pen, so I sold her to a cowboy on a ranch. He loves her.
I couldnt tell you how many girls sell in their "older" horses to start a prospect. There's literally nothing wrong with the older one besides age. I love buying those types of horses.... they are seasoned, may be minimal tune up during the week, and are usually affordable. |
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| I try to judge each individual situation when looking at sale horses. I like to take a project and put time on it, and then hopefully make a profit on them. I personally prefer the horse that someone just didn't have time for. Typically they haven't had much done with them, so they don't have bad habits or incorrect training. I do agree that there is some misrepresentation in the horse market, so educate yourself and do your homework.
So I guess I didn't really answer your question! I don't believe that every horse that is for sale has something wrong with it. So many different reasons that people sell. |
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Location: Texas | I am skeptical with every horse I look at. First off, I don't want to get screwed, so I read every ad and look for any red flags that come up. Some horses, many horses, are represented accurately and appropriately. But there's definitely some who are for sale and you know theres got to be more to the story...there's a reason people say buyer beware. I'm sure y'all have seen the funny FB posts about the horse for sale ads and the "read between the lines" meaning of the catch phrases and gimmicks. And I'm also sure everyone at some point has come across a horse for sale that's local that everyone in the area knows is crazy but its on the internet for sale with a great ad description LOL.
I also have to be skeptical because its my job. I have to pre purchase horses and I need to look over them with a fine toothed comb and make sure nothing slips past me. It's nerve-wracking. So I guess in a way maybe I'm hyper sensitive to trying to find issues because the #1 reason why vets get sued is over PPEs. |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | we're old and now on the selling end :) These are what we considered to be the 'best' and have held onto for a long time. It's not true that people just sell the ones they have trouble with. I have a 2 yr old filly getting ready to be started. She is so much like Slim it's scary. We'll start her and then hang onto her but there will come a time when she's sold as we get even older LOL We've bought lots of horses over the years and have always done our homework. Honestly, never had a vet check done on one, but have dealt with reputable breeders whose word and handshake is worth more than any contract. Just do your homework when you're buying! |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | hoofs_in_motion - 2017-10-03 1:03 PM
that is why there are PPE, and you should try to ride the horse before you buy it. Unfortunately, not everyone is/will be honest about a horse they are selling. If you find one that is, that is a godsend lol
Yes. Try to ride it at a barrel race. Where you have a vet pull blood for a drug test. An honest seller won't mind and won't get insulted. If they act all offended, red flag! |
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