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| Well the vet visit went good, she was very nice and thorough. His diagnosis is moderate/severe pasturn arthritis in his right front. Not exactly what we wanted to hear. We did a general exam and she thought he looked good, did flexion test, blocking, and then front X-rays. The blocking helped her narrow down what area is the problem, then the X-rays confirmed. It's pretty substantial arthritis. She said it was nothing I did, as I've only had him for little over a month. She said he's had this for a decent amount of time 1+ years.
Husband and I are pretty mad at ourselves, as we should have done a prepurchse exam, and we wouldn't have bought him. Vet believes previous owner buted him up. Lesson learned!! But, an expensive lesson! She said our only really treatment options are adequan injections IM once a month (after a loading dose) and inject the pasturn. She did prescribe previcox but said that not all horses respond to it.
Previcox=$36 for 40 days. 1/4 of a tablet once a day
1 bottle adequan=$385
Injections in pasturn=$250-260
She said all horses respond differently to injections, and she said it would be worth it to try. She also said that some people have to inject the pasturn severe 6 months and others can get away with once a year. I'm also going to get a tub of bute from her this week in case he needs it.
I have him started on Actiflex pellets, and am wondering if I should keep him on what previous owner had him on Forefront Forebasics? Am I just wasting my money? What is it really doing? I'm almost out, so I need to decide.
Now that we have a diagnosis, I would appreciate any advice on what to do, maintenance care, supplements that might be beneficial, etc.
Would BOT quick wraps or bell boots be beneficial? I tried to upload his X-rays but it said they were too big. The vet that came out said that she does chiropractic work, also. $85/hr. I want him to be comfortable, but I don't want to throw money at things that won't help the issue he has.
Thanks everyone!
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| I posted on your other thread but to add to it if this was my horse I would inject the pastern and do the adequan series. The adequan may lengthen the time between injections. You can find previcox adequan on line much cheaper but you will need a prescription. |
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| Thank you! I think husband and I have decided to go ahead with injecting the pastern AND Adequan injections, as well as Previcox. Hopefully we see some results! The vet did not want to inject yesterday, as she had injected with nerve blocking agents, and he was getting fussy. I'm going to try and get her out either Friday or next week.
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:15 AM
Thank you! I think husband and I have decided to go ahead with injecting the pastern AND Adequan injections, as well as Previcox. Hopefully we see some results! The vet did not want to inject yesterday, as she had injected with nerve blocking agents, and he was getting fussy. I'm going to try and get her out either Friday or next week.
I have heard that you can't use Bute if you are feeding Previcox?
You are correct - bute and Previcox are both NSAIDs and you don't want to stack them together under most circumstances. If you're looking to save a little, ask your vet about Pentosan vs. Adequan. I do a loading dose of Adequan on my gelding in the spring and then Pentosan every 3 weeks. |
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| Thank you! My question is, if I know I'm going to be hauling to a barrel race on a Sat, I was thinking of giving him Bute, but I can't do that with Previcox..so skip Previcox that day and Bute? |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:51 AM Thank you! My question is, if I know I'm going to be hauling to a barrel race on a Sat, I was thinking of giving him Bute, but I can't do that with Previcox..so skip Previcox that day and Bute?
My protocol for using bute is I start giving 2 days prior, if I was racing Saturday, I would start on Thursday. I would not give previcox in the same week |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-10-04 9:57 AM
emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:51 AM Thank you! My question is, if I know I'm going to be hauling to a barrel race on a Sat, I was thinking of giving him Bute, but I can't do that with Previcox..so skip Previcox that day and Bute?
My protocol for using bute is I start giving 2 days prior, if I was racing Saturday, I would start on Thursday. I would not give previcox in the same week
Ok, so with Previcox it's ok to start and stop as needed? No bad reactions to stopping it here and there? |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 10:01 AM
rodeomom3 - 2017-10-04 9:57 AM
emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:51 AM Thank you! My question is, if I know I'm going to be hauling to a barrel race on a Sat, I was thinking of giving him Bute, but I can't do that with Previcox..so skip Previcox that day and Bute?
My protocol for using bute is I start giving 2 days prior, if I was racing Saturday, I would start on Thursday. I would not give previcox in the same week
Ok, so with Previcox it's ok to start and stop as needed? No bad reactions to stopping it here and there?
Not that I know of, but I think you may need to pick which one you want to use. Previcox daily may be enough and you won't need bute. I think bute is stronger but I would not be continually switching from previcox to bute. |
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| Ok, got it! I have no experience with Previcox..so I'm not sure what to expect? I am very familiar with Bute, so now I'm not sure what to try. |
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Location: Texas | Try using DMSO on the joint.
I had a horse with a high ringbone and I mixed 10cc of Dexamethazone into a bottle of DMSO, painted it on the joint, wrapped with saran wrap, then cotton, then vet wrap, left it on for a day or two. It kept him sound for 2 weeks at a time.
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| Oh boy, now I'm feeling overwhelmed..  I don't want to mess him up! He is a great horse, nice personality, and loves to work... |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 10:55 AM
Oh boy, now I'm feeling overwhelmed.. I don't want to mess him up! He is a great horse, nice personality, and loves to work...
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Location: Mi | Meep.Meep - 2017-10-04 12:02 PM emricmacy - 2017-10-04 10:55 AM Oh boy, now I'm feeling overwhelmed.. I don't want to mess him up! He is a great horse, nice personality, and loves to work... I would skip the ActiFlex. Just give the injectable and NSAIDS and put him on a probiotic
This is what I would do also! If you're going to do the adequan I don't see any sense in doing the other. If you're going to keep him on the previcox daily I wouldn't switch back and forth with the bute. If you're only going to give the previcox a few days before and during a race you're probably fine doing bute if you're not going real often. |
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| Ahmac - 2017-10-04 11:41 AM
Meep.Meep - 2017-10-04 12:02 PM emricmacy - 2017-10-04 10:55 AM Oh boy, now I'm feeling overwhelmed.. I don't want to mess him up! He is a great horse, nice personality, and loves to work... I would skip the ActiFlex. Just give the injectable and NSAIDS and put him on a probiotic
I wouldn't switch back and forth with bute either. Obviously talk to your vet about this, but if it were me, I'd have him on a quarter tab daily and then a couple days before a race bump him up to a half tab. I've used previcox pretty extensively for my navicular horse I had and other random injuries and this has worked for me. |
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| Thank you! I will take him off the ActiFlex. Vet just e-mailed me, saying to not use Bute and Previcox together. He started Previcox this AM, she has him on 1/4tab. She said the Previcox is a bit better for long term use. I will buy a tub of Bute from her when she comes next, just in case I ever need it in the future. So, I will stick to Adequan, pasturn injections, and Previcox for now. I'm overwhelming myself already. I'm the type that just wants to do more and more, but one step at a time.
Should I stop using the ForeBasics supplement that the previous owner had him on? It's a bit expensive, but if you all think it's worth it for him, I will continue, if not then I will put that money towards injections.
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Location: South Georgia | emricmacy - 2017-10-04 1:06 PM What is everyone's thoughts on the BOT quick wraps for him or bell boots? Would this help him? Ice wraps?
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 11:57 AM
Thank you! I will take him off the ActiFlex. Vet just e-mailed me, saying to not use Bute and Previcox together. He started Previcox this AM, she has him on 1/4tab. She said the Previcox is a bit better for long term use. I will buy a tub of Bute from her when she comes next, just in case I ever need it in the future. So, I will stick to Adequan, pasturn injections, and Previcox for now. I'm overwhelming myself already. I'm the type that just wants to do more and more, but one step at a time.
Should I stop using the ForeBasics supplement that the previous owner had him on? It's a bit expensive, but if you all think it's worth it for him, I will continue, if not then I will put that money towards injections.
I wouldn't bother with any joint supplements, the injections, adequan and previcox should be enough. The only supplement I would feed would be a good probiotic. |
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Location: mi | I really like my BOT quick wraps for race day. I put them on him while he is tied to the trailer or stalled if its a weekend event for as long as I can prior to running. I also like my lame away spray to give his problem joint its own little spritz of feel good juice about 1/2 hour or so prerun. Are they totally necessary probably not. But if nothing else they would make a nice christmas or birthday gift. :) |
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Ok, any brands I should look for?
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| Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him. |
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Location: mi | emricmacy - 2017-10-04 1:42 PM Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him. My mom had some jacked up knees and she would use it on them on days she was just hanging out at the house and she said it made them feel better. Not as good as a bunch of motrin or ..... but gave her stomach a break and did ease the aches. So I use it on him on race days as just a bit of a helper..... Its cheap and he doesn't complain so I do it. :) a bottle will last all season and then some depending on how much you run.
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 12:42 PM
Thank you! Will definitely get him on a probiotic, and that Lame Away spray sounds like it would be worth a try! I'm going to have to get some for him.
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-04 9:57 AM Thank you! I will take him off the ActiFlex. Vet just e-mailed me, saying to not use Bute and Previcox together. He started Previcox this AM, she has him on 1/4tab. She said the Previcox is a bit better for long term use. I will buy a tub of Bute from her when she comes next, just in case I ever need it in the future. So, I will stick to Adequan, pasturn injections, and Previcox for now. I'm overwhelming myself already. I'm the type that just wants to do more and more, but one step at a time. Should I stop using the ForeBasics supplement that the previous owner had him on? It's a bit expensive, but if you all think it's worth it for him, I will continue, if not then I will put that money towards injections.
I think stopping the ForeBasics is dependent on what the rest of your feed program is?
This is what their website states for that supplement.
The foundation formula for all our blends! Whether you’re looking for a quality supplement that is both affordable plus covers the basic nutritional needs for your pleasure and trail horse, or if you’re looking for a means to support your performance horse during the off season, ForeBasic+ is a great choice. ForeBasic+ harnesses the power of Colostrum, Benecell®, prebiotics and equine specific probiotics into a basic, yet complete, blend for horses who don’t require additional joint, digestive or lung support. |
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| My advice is start small... don't do too many things at once where you don't know whats helping. With maintenance I always do the least invasive. 1. cost 2. I want additional steps to take going forward.
I would start with adequan and the injections and go from there. Personally I wouldn't do previcox once those are on board. JMO. I wouldn't bute either unless necessary and I wouldn't switch back and forth.
I personally would think PHT would be more beneficial for the arthritis and BOT but again that's always a decent debate on here. |
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| My vet always injected then did a booster injection within a month.
Make sure you know what your vet is injecting. Not all injections are created equal. Depo or cortisone in the joint will accelerate the arthritis. Trimsclione is a steroid used in conjunction to HA has showed it can restore cartilage.
HA is not all equal. Legend is not good, and it is cheap. Hylartil is a thicker molecular weight and will last longer in the joint, there are other types as well, do your research.
As for prolonging the injection. Acetyl D glucosamine is cheap, and you can give it IV weekly. This will help reduce the inflammation in the joint therefore prevent the progression of arthritis.
The key is preventing any inflammation, any sign of a windpuff you have inflammation in the joint.
Clay poultice will help, back on track will help. Some people say magnetics will help, I am not a believe in magnetics as I had one colic due to magnetics (this is a story in itself).
Cold hosing after every ride will help, game ready, ice boots.
Soft rides while hauling or stalling will help.
if you have any questions feel free to message me, I lived through this as well.
PS some feed through supplements will work on some horses, but it is a trial and error. The things I look for in feed through supplements, collagen hyrdoslate, glucosamine, and HA. |
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| For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it.
I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
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Location: California | emricmacy - 2017-10-07 5:51 AM
For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it.
I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
I think Lame Away is mostly popular in Ca since it’s made here. It’s a great product and I just wanted to say they donate a lot of product to our races out here. That got me to switch from Sore No More. I loved SNM too but as one of our producers says support those who support you! You personally may not benefit from their support but it’s great that the company supports barrel racing! I don’t know if SNM does?
Also maybe check with your vet about giving the loading dose twice a year instead of the monthly shots of adequan. That’s how many vets are recommending it now. Best of luck with your horse |
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| Today's the day he gets injected, and starts his adequan shots. I hope for good results. Vet didn't mention last time she was out how long his recovery time is for the pastern injections to start light riding. Any others had this done before? |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-12 6:08 AM Today's the day he gets injected, and starts his adequan shots. I hope for good results. Vet didn't mention last time she was out how long his recovery time is for the pastern injections to start light r iding. Any others had this done before?
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Location: Windoming | emricmacy - 2017-10-06 6:51 AM For the clay poultice, I've done a little research, and Sore No More comes up with some good reviews, as well as the Sore No More Performance poultice. Can this just be left on without a wrap? How long do I leave them on? Is this something I do the day before a race, day of? Sorry for all the questions! I'm going to look into some ice boots (used after a race, correct)? I'm going to try some Lame Away spray, but I did see that Lame Away has a Mud, but I haven't seen any reviews online about it. I guess I'm still a little confused with the ice/heat topic. Ice boots after a race, and BOT quick wraps before a race?
I use the SNM Performance mud. I like to put it on after I ride my horse. I have never wrapped with it on. I just let it wear off. In the summer, I like to put it on his front legs every morning, helps keep him from splitting his hooves stomping at flies. I started using it when he developed a splint on one leg. The splint is pretty much gone now. |
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| Vet visit went good! Injected his pastern and started with the Adequan injections today also..hoping for some good results so he can be comfortable again! He was very sleepy from the sedative, here's a picture.
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| He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far. |
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He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far.
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | emricmacy - 2017-10-17 7:55 PM He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Ohiobarrelracer - 2017-10-18 6:32 AM emricmacy - 2017-10-17 7:55 PM He got injected last Thursday, had stall rest for 1/2 day on Friday, and has been out all day since. Lunged him tonight, just walk/trot and he's still off going to the right. Vet said it could take 2 weeks to see full results, but I guess I'm discouraged. I'm not sure what my expectations should be. He's had two of the 7 loading doses of Adequan so far. It takes time. He has to get used to not being in pain too! after being in pain for so long they think its still going to be there. He doesnt know he got feel good juice put in him, once he realizes he doesnt hurt anymore youll be good to go
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| Thanks ladies..guess I'm just discouraged. I love him dearly, and hoping he get's better. Still kicking myself that I didn't do a pre-purchase, but live and learn I guess. He's a lot of fun, and I do enjoy him. I'm still doing a lot of research to try and help him even more. Husband and I are going to the Equine Affair in MA next month, so excited to see some vendors, and I'd like to invest in a pair of BOT Quick Wraps. |
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Location: South Georgia | emricmacy - 2017-10-18 10:35 AM Thanks ladies..guess I'm just discouraged. I love him dearly, and hoping he get's better. Still kicking myself that I didn't do a pre-purchase, but live and learn I guess. He's a lot of fun, and I do enjoy him. I'm still doing a lot of research to try and help him even more. Husband and I are going to the Equine Affair in MA next month, so excited to see some vendors, and I'd like to invest in a pair of BOT Quick Wraps.
You remind me a lot of myself. I am OCD, and I over-analyze everything and tend to be majorly (sometimes overly so) proactive. I dwell on things and just cannot let them go. I'm hoping these injections will help your guy. I am sure you will do everything within your power to get him right. |
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| horsegirl - 2017-10-18 9:39 AM
emricmacy - 2017-10-18 10:35 AM Thanks ladies..guess I'm just discouraged. I love him dearly, and hoping he get's better. Still kicking myself that I didn't do a pre-purchase, but live and learn I guess. He's a lot of fun, and I do enjoy him. I'm still doing a lot of research to try and help him even more. Husband and I are going to the Equine Affair in MA next month, so excited to see some vendors, and I'd like to invest in a pair of BOT Quick Wraps.
You remind me a lot of myself. I am OCD, and I over-analyze everything and tend to be majorly (sometimes overly so) proactive. I dwell on things and just cannot let them go. I'm hoping these injections will help your guy. I am sure you will do everything within your power to get him right.
I do over-analyze everything, and I want to fix everything. I think my worries right now are what if he never really gets better, and he really only is capable of being a trail horse? I need to just try one thing at a time, and not just feel like I need to go everything at once. |
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| emricmacy - 2017-10-18 10:30 AM
horsegirl - 2017-10-18 9:39 AM
emricmacy - 2017-10-18 10:35 AM Thanks ladies..guess I'm just discouraged. I love him dearly, and hoping he get's better. Still kicking myself that I didn't do a pre-purchase, but live and learn I guess. He's a lot of fun, and I do enjoy him. I'm still doing a lot of research to try and help him even more. Husband and I are going to the Equine Affair in MA next month, so excited to see some vendors, and I'd like to invest in a pair of BOT Quick Wraps.
You remind me a lot of myself. I am OCD, and I over-analyze everything and tend to be majorly (sometimes overly so) proactive. I dwell on things and just cannot let them go. I'm hoping these injections will help your guy. I am sure you will do everything within your power to get him right.
I do over-analyze everything, and I want to fix everything. I think my worries right now are what if he never really gets better, and he really only is capable of being a trail horse? I need to just try one thing at a time, and not just feel like I need to go everything at once.
You said before he was sound at a lope and worked the barrels well? And that was before all the therapy. I don't think you'll have a trail horse, I think you'll have a barrel horse that requires maintenance. No big deal |
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| Another thing to remember, don't change too many things at once. For one, you won't know what actually "worked". And for two, changing many things at once can be stressful for the horse and do more harm than good. As horse owners we want to fix everything, sometimes we just need to chill out and take it one step at a time. There are so many things out there that "work", but I think most of this is a money pit and runs in fads. I have never purchased ceramic or magnetic therapy, my horses aren't injected (if they needed it though they'd get it) or on supplements. I don't get chiropractic or massage therapy. My horses get their teeth done on an as needed basis. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and you don't have to buy into everything out there to make him feel better. You did the injections, you are working on proper shoeing. Let that take affect before you start looking at other products. But that is just my opinion. It's worth what you paid for it |
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| Meep.Meep - 2017-10-18 10:43 AM
Another thing to remember, don't change too many things at once. For one, you won't know what actually "worked". And for two, changing many things at once can be stressful for the horse and do more harm than good. As horse owners we want to fix everything, sometimes we just need to chill out and take it one step at a time. There are so many things out there that "work", but I think most of this is a money pit and runs in fads. I have never purchased ceramic or magnetic therapy, my horses aren't injected (if they needed it though they'd get it ) or on supplements. I don't get chiropractic or massage therapy. My horses get their teeth done on an as needed basis. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and you don't have to buy into everything out there to make him feel better. You did the injections, you are working on proper shoeing. Let that take affect before you start looking at other products. But that is just my opinion. It's worth what you paid for it
Thank you! My last gelding I had, mind you it was 7 years ago..I never once had a lameness problem with him, ever. He got de wormed when he needed it, never had even heard of a massage or chiropractor for horses, and wasn't on any supplement..so this is all different for me. He was never injected, and I guess was an "easy keeper". |
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| Update: My vet called my farrier, and we are all on the same page. I guess they know each other, so they came up with a game plan for his next shoeing. I'm happy we can all work together, productively!
Lunged him last night, and he was full of it, he hates having time off, but tracking right he was 90% better! Going to give him today off, and maybe hop on him tomorrow, just at a walk and trot and see how he does. |
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| Meep.Meep - 2017-10-18 10:43 AM
Another thing to remember, don't change too many things at once. For one, you won't know what actually "worked". And for two, changing many things at once can be stressful for the horse and do more harm than good. As horse owners we want to fix everything, sometimes we just need to chill out and take it one step at a time. There are so many things out there that "work", but I think most of this is a money pit and runs in fads. I have never purchased ceramic or magnetic therapy, my horses aren't injected (if they needed it though they'd get it ) or on supplements. I don't get chiropractic or massage therapy. My horses get their teeth done on an as needed basis. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and you don't have to buy into everything out there to make him feel better. You did the injections, you are working on proper shoeing. Let that take affect before you start looking at other products. But that is just my opinion. It's worth what you paid for it
I agree, that is exactly what we do with all our horses, not just the ones I run on barrels. It takes TIME for things to work and for things to heal, both horses and people. In our "instant" society a lot of people, myself included, seen to forget that. |
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| I don't know which is correct or not but my good lameness vet has a totally different opinion on pain. SHe said horses REACT to pain, they either have it or they don't. They will either limp or they won't if it hurts. She thinks its not true that a horse has to " Learn" something doesn't hurt anymore. Now, it may very well take 2-3 weeks for a horse to improve with some treatments ( Like osphos for example), but as far as pain, she feels they either have it or they don't. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-10-20 10:03 AM I don't know which is correct or not but my good lameness vet has a totally different opinion on pain. SHe said horses REACT to pain, they either have it or they don't. They will either limp or they won't if it hurts. She thinks its not true that a horse has to " Learn" something doesn't hurt anymore. Now, it may very well take 2-3 weeks for a horse to improve with some treatments ( Like osphos for example), but as far as pain, she feels they either have it or they don't. I have a friend who believes that too, I think it depends on the horse. My personal experience is I have a couple of horses that remember and associate certain activities with pain. My gelding had a suspensory injury that took a long time to find and only bothered him turning to the left, he would turn very wide, never ducked. Off a year, perfectly sound, works his left barrel beautifully. He can go either direction without any confusion from run to run but since his injury if I sent him to the left first he would sometimes duck it but has never ducked it if it is his second barrel and never ducked going to the right. I 100% believe he is afraid of hurting if the left is first but when it is his second barrel he is committed to the run and is back loving his job.
Edited by rodeomom3 2017-10-20 10:22 AM
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