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| So an x-ray of my 4 year old showed the growth plate has not fused together yet. Vet said it was causing a sore stifle so he injected her. He told me to keep running her that it was fine and she was just a "late" bloomer. Fast forward 45 days later, sore stifle again. He injected again and said if this injection only lasted as long as the other did that she has soft tissue damage and to give her 90 days off in the pasture. He cleared her to run for the weekend, ran her and it was a disaster. There was no improvement. My question - do I get a second opinion to make SURE that is what is going on?
He said the only way to check for the soft tissue damage is an x-ray that he does not have, he also said the cost was $1,500 and the treatment would be the same - off for 90 days. I don't have any experience with this. Anyone else??  |
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| I would give her the time off for sure. In the meantime shop around for a vet that has the equipment to properly diagnose her issue. Time off never hurt anybody :-) |
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Location: Mountains of VA | She is only 4, give her time off. Personally, I would only be loping a 4yo on the pattern but then I like to take it slow in training. |
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| Been there recently. Our mare is 9 years old and was told this. Gave her pretty much whole summer off and injected couple weeks again. Got on her to ride after injection and now she is still off in the back end.. grrr.. so frustrating.. We honestly don’t know what to do now. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | Chasingadream - 2017-10-23 7:46 AM
So an x-ray of my 4 year old showed the growth plate has not fused together yet. Vet said it was causing a sore stifle so he injected her. He told me to keep running her that it was fine and she was just a "late" bloomer. Fast forward 45 days later, sore stifle again. He injected again and said if this injection only lasted as long as the other did that she has soft tissue damage and to give her 90 days off in the pasture. He cleared her to run for the weekend, ran her and it was a disaster. There was no improvement. My question - do I get a second opinion to make SURE that is what is going on?
He said the only way to check for the soft tissue damage is an x-ray that he does not have, he also said the cost was $1,500 and the treatment would be the same - off for 90 days. I don't have any experience with this. Anyone else??
Something I see a lot of.
Your horse most likely doesnt just have an open growth plate, she has epiphysitis in it. Margins of the growth plate will look rough instead of being smooth. the stifle joint soreness is due to tech Epiphysitis causing pain in the stifle area. I use a product called Rejuvinaide made by Progressive Nutrition that is a trace mineral supplement. Usually 60-90 days on the product will do the trick. Re xray to make sure it's improved.
Your mare is getting sore because the problem is not actually in the stifle, it's the growth plate on the tibial crest. An open growth plate isn't painful but epiphysitis in it is. The stifle injection is close enough to the area that it does give some temporary relief.
ETA, time off is preferred. You risk compensation injuries if you continue.
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Location: Claremore, OK | bbennington - 2017-10-23 8:14 AM
Been there recently. Our mare is 9 years old and was told this. Gave her pretty much whole summer off and injected couple weeks again. Got on her to ride after injection and now she is still off in the back end.. grrr.. so frustrating.. We honestly don’t know what to do now.
You might investigate further. A 9 yo horse shouldn't have open growth plates, especially in their stifles. |
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| hotpaints - 2017-10-23 7:57 AM
She is only 4, give her time off. Personally, I would only be loping a 4yo on the pattern but then I like to take it slow in training.
Well, she ran futurities this year so she had to be past loping lol. I'm not against giving her time off, just wanted to see if I should get a second opinion before I put her out for 90 days. I've never had to deal with this issue before so I wasn't sure if there could be another possibility. |
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| Liana D - 2017-10-23 8:24 AM
Chasingadream - 2017-10-23 7:46 AM
So an x-ray of my 4 year old showed the growth plate has not fused together yet. Vet said it was causing a sore stifle so he injected her. He told me to keep running her that it was fine and she was just a "late" bloomer. Fast forward 45 days later, sore stifle again. He injected again and said if this injection only lasted as long as the other did that she has soft tissue damage and to give her 90 days off in the pasture. He cleared her to run for the weekend, ran her and it was a disaster. There was no improvement. My question - do I get a second opinion to make SURE that is what is going on?
He said the only way to check for the soft tissue damage is an x-ray that he does not have, he also said the cost was $1,500 and the treatment would be the same - off for 90 days. I don't have any experience with this. Anyone else??
Something I see a lot of.
Your horse most likely doesnt just have an open growth plate, she has epiphysitis in it. Margins of the growth plate will look rough instead of being smooth. the stifle joint soreness is due to tech Epiphysitis causing pain in the stifle area. I use a product called Rejuvinaide made by Progressive Nutrition that is a trace mineral supplement. Usually 60-90 days on the product will do the trick. Re xray to make sure it's improved.
Your mare is getting sore because the problem is not actually in the stifle, it's the growth plate on the tibial crest. An open growth plate isn't painful but epiphysitis in it is. The stifle injection is close enough to the area that it does give some temporary relief.
ETA, time off is preferred. You risk compensation injuries if you continue.
Thank you so much!!!
That is very helpful. I will look into that!!!
ETA - I saw the x-ray and it actually looked like a crack, I had a mini hearth attack. He said it's just where it hadn't fused together? I have never dealt with it before though so I wasn't really sure what any of it meant.
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Location: Claremore, OK | Yes, it looks like a crack, or a pac man face, with ragged edges (if there’s epiphysitis). If it was closed you wouldn’t see anything at all. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | X-ray of a 3 yo gelding. Growth plate is 3/4 closed but has epiphysitis in it.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Liana D - 2017-10-23 9:11 AM X-ray of a 3 yo gelding. Growth plate is 3/4 closed but has epiphysitis in it.
I know we discussed Rejuvenaide on facebook. I was the one giving it to a weanling this summer that had a rough start. You recommend giving it to older horses too? |
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| Liana D - 2017-10-23 9:52 AM
Yes, it looks like a crack, or a pac man face, with ragged edges (if there’s epiphysitis). If it was closed you wouldn’t see anything at all.
Yes!!! That's exactly what it looked like. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-10-23 12:54 PM
Liana D - 2017-10-23 9:11 AM X-ray of a 3 yo gelding. Growth plate is 3/4 closed but has epiphysitis in it.
I know we discussed Rejuvenaide on facebook. I was the one giving it to a weanling this summer that had a rough start. You recommend giving it to older horses too?
The reason I recommended it on the fb post was because they were having epiphysitis problems, which is a mineral imbalance. That's what the problem is here, Epiphysitis, only its in the tibial growth plate. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Liana D - 2017-10-23 2:43 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-10-23 12:54 PM Liana D - 2017-10-23 9:11 AM X-ray of a 3 yo gelding. Growth plate is 3/4 closed but has epiphysitis in it. I know we discussed Rejuvenaide on facebook. I was the one giving it to a weanling this summer that had a rough start. You recommend giving it to older horses too? The reason I recommended it on the fb post was because they were having epiphysitis problems, which is a mineral imbalance. That's what the problem is here, Epiphysitis, only its in the tibial growth plate.
is it beneficial in a 4 yr old? Or just helps pre 6 months as the tube suggests? |
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Location: Claremore, OK | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-10-23 3:56 PM
Liana D - 2017-10-23 2:43 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2017-10-23 12:54 PM Liana D - 2017-10-23 9:11 AM X-ray of a 3 yo gelding. Growth plate is 3/4 closed but has epiphysitis in it. I know we discussed Rejuvenaide on facebook. I was the one giving it to a weanling this summer that had a rough start. You recommend giving it to older horses too? The reason I recommended it on the fb post was because they were having epiphysitis problems, which is a mineral imbalance. That's what the problem is here, Epiphysitis, only its in the tibial growth plate.
For treating epiphysitis, it'd beneficial for any age that has epiphysitis. |
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | Imho?
If she belonged to me? And I wanted her to last for yrs to come?
I'd dump her n the pasture, let her heal and mature till next spring!!
The call is yours of course.
Good luck :0)
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Location: United States | Why dont you plan on giving her ample time off and in the meantime have her stifle ultrasounded and do some deeper investigation, with a different vet. |
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| She will be getting her time off. I just wanted to see if anyone had dealt with it because it's new to me. I don't have $$$$$ of dollars to spend to get the same results I have now.
My post on here ended up very helpful coming from someone who knew what I was dealing with and was able to be give advise/insight to what the issue what. Researching what she suggested it fits perfect and I know the reason this is happening, it all makes sense. Now she will get her much deserved break and she will be brought back when she is feeling better.
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