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WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE:
THE LEGENDARY STALLION "STRAWFLY SPECIAL" WILL BE RETURNING TO THE BREEDING WORLD OF QUARTERHORSE RACING THRU THE TECHNICAL MIRACLE OF ICSI.
For more information, call the InFoal, Inc office at 951-929-4533
Strawfly Special
Inducted into the American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame in 2017
Strawfly Special had something to prove.
Bred by Dan and Jolene Urschel of Texas, the bay stallion by Special Effort was one of four winners from six starters out of the winning Grade 1-placed Fly In The Pie. Strawfly Special was purchased as a yearling at the Ruidoso sale by Jack Hall, who raced him in the name of Hall’s Liston Aluminum Brick Co.
With 25 starts against the best horses running over three seasons, Strawfly Special earned $222,920 while compiling 11 wins, including one in a major stakes race; four seconds, with two in stakes; and three thirds, each in a stakes.
Returned to Los Alamitos, he won in allowance company in September 1991, ran in Apprehend’s Los Alamitos Invitational Championship (G1) in October and followed that with a close third to Apprehend and See Me Gone in the Quarter Horse Breeders Classic Championship Classic (G1).
Strawfly Special finally went into well-earned retirement after running in Refrigerator’s division of the Champion Prep Stakes.
Strawfly Special then was acquired by Jens List Jr. of California, who moved him to his Double Bar S Ranch at Moreno Valley, California. List died in November 1996, leaving the ranch in the hands of his widow, Sharon, and daughters Dawn and Rhonda. At Double Bar S, Strawfly Special proved his point as a sire, where he ranks in the top 10 by both earnings and winners on the track.
The sire of 1,448 named foals in 16 crops, the stallion is represented by 883 winners from 1,193 starters, including two-time world champion Tailor Fit, All American Futurity (G1) winner Streakin Flyer and Grade 1 winner and successful sire Strawflyin Buds, 76 other stakes winners and the earners of more than $25.8 million.
Strawfly Special is also in the top 10 as a broodmare sire, where he is represented by racehorses such as world champions Last To Fire and One Fabulous Eagle. Strawfly Special foals also did well in the show ring, where the stallion is represented by AQHA Supreme Champion Gotta Good Habit and other all-around performers.
Strawfly Special was inducted into the American Quarter Horse Hall of Fame in 2017. |
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Edited by FLITASTIC 2017-11-02 10:05 AM
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| This is great news. As an owner of an identical twin to his most successful son (Tailor Fit), and the 14 3 year olds in training out of him, i can clearly see future benefits from accessing SS's genetics via ICSI. Excellent use of repro technology. We wish them the best of luck. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | will someone please tell me what ICSI stands for? |
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| luluwhit - 2017-11-02 1:22 PM
will someone please tell me what ICSI stands for?
Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection - "Using ICSI, oocytes are injected with individual sperm from a donor stallion, and the resulting embryos are allowed to develop in the laboratory for approximately one week. Developed embryos are then shipped to a private embryo transfer facility for transfer to a recipient mare, as for standard embryo transfer" |
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| I am so old school when it comes to this stuff....Throw a mare out with a stud, make a foal....Call me old fashioned lol |
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Location: NE TX | Anyone know what the stud fee will be? Love Rick Beck!!!! |
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| Blake Russell - 2017-11-02 1:15 PM
This is great news. As an owner of an identical twin to his most successful son (Tailor Fit), and the 14 3 year olds in training out of him, i can clearly see future benefits from accessing SS's genetics via ICSI. Excellent use of repro technology. We wish them the best of luck.
What happened to the other 6? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Whiteboy - 2017-11-02 2:40 PM Blake Russell - 2017-11-02 1:15 PM This is great news. As an owner of an identical twin to his most successful son (Tailor Fit), and the 14 3 year olds in training out of him, i can clearly see future benefits from accessing SS's genetics via ICSI. Excellent use of repro technology. We wish them the best of luck. What happened to the other 6?
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Blake Russell - 2017-11-02 11:15 AM
This is great news. As an owner of an identical twin to his most successful son (Tailor Fit), and the 14 3 year olds in training out of him, i can clearly see future benefits from accessing SS's genetics via ICSI. Excellent use of repro technology. We wish them the best of luck.
Please share more. I'm guessing you have a clone to Taylor Fit.
Since they aren't eligible for registration in AQHA and one needs papers to race, what are the babies in training for? |
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| Yes, Tailor Fit (proof of SS's ability as a sire). Horses are DNA verified same process as AQHA and registered in ADNAR. Daughter is driving program focusing on barrel horses, but working to build all around horses with elite speed. All colts getting solid education across disciplines and taking her time. She is blessed to have a lot of incredible mentors helping her along. Lexie Russell Performance Horses wearing the coffee cup brand. Great kid with big dreams. Back to Strawfly Special and the potential of utilizing his genes via ICSI! |
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Location: Texas | I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity |
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| casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM
I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity
I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | Whiteboy - 2017-11-03 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K
so which is the better buy? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | luluwhit - 2017-11-04 8:29 AM Whiteboy - 2017-11-03 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K
with ICSI would want the $10k sure thing
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| Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this....
percentages on runners from starters are not very good. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | runfastturnsmooth - 2017-11-04 5:00 PM Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this.... percentages on runners from starters are not very good.
so you are saying just because of how the egg is fertilized it results in a non runner? I can't see how personally. It all ends the same. One sperm one egg and even though it is embryo, the race world has proven plenty of Champions can come from a surrogate mare. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2017-11-04 7:01 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-11-04 5:00 PM Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this.... percentages on runners from starters are not very good.
so you are saying just because of how the egg is fertilized it results in a non runner? I can't see how personally. It all ends the same. One sperm one egg and even though it is embryo, the race world has proven plenty of Champions can come from a surrogate mare.
Oh yeah surrogate mares yes ma'am. BUT frozen semen or ICSI not so much. You may find a few outliers that lighted up the board but the odds are not in the fav of them being runners so far. Also, these studs such as First Down Dash are being bred this way to the very best mares. Black type mares that produce a runner year after year then all of a sudden don't. The odds just aren't there for most race people to spend that money, there's already a stigma in the race world about it. |
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Location: Arkansas | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-11-04 7:01 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2017-11-04 5:00 PM Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this.... percentages on runners from starters are not very good.
so you are saying just because of how the egg is fertilized it results in a non runner? I can't see how personally. It all ends the same. One sperm one egg and even though it is embryo, the race world has proven plenty of Champions can come from a surrogate mare.
There are several cutting studs that are ICSI only now, I believe. And the babies keep coming and winning. . . . |
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| 1DSoon - 2017-11-04 8:03 AM
luluwhit - 2017-11-04 8:29 AM Whiteboy - 2017-11-03 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K
Exactly...They say ICSI is only has about a 40% success rate on young healthy mares. |
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Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2017-11-06 10:31 AM
1DSoon - 2017-11-04 8:03 AM
luluwhit - 2017-11-04 8:29 AM Whiteboy - 2017-11-03 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2017-11-03 3:56 PM I love my Strawflyin Buds daughter. ICSI is out of my budget by far, but it sure is awesome SS is returning! What an opportunity I think Dr. Beck does a 1 chance shot for $2500. or a guaranteed 45 day pregnancy for $10K
Exactly...They say ICSI is only has about a 40% success rate on young healthy mares.
I would go as far as saying less than 40%... its got a lot of added steps that often times do not produce anything in the end. Beck is the only one I know of who charges the 10k once its all done. Everywhere else as far as I've been exposed to charges per procedure and you can easily spend 10k and get nothing. |
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2017-11-04 6:00 PM
Thing is not many runners have resulted from frozen like this....
percentages on runners from starters are not very good.
This is an unverified statement, to say that there aren't runners "from frozen like this." I would argue that it is not any part of the technology that causes a decline in performers, but rather the decline in number of foals due to the expense and pregnancy success rates associated with the use of assisted reproduction.
It's completely a false and unsubstantiated statement to say that offspring produced via frozen semen or intrcytoplasmic sperm injection, or frozen embryos, are not performers. That is untrue and there is not a stigma toward the offspring; most people wouldn't know if the resulting animal was produced via frozen semen or thawed embryo or ICSI for that matter. It is not denoted on the registration papers....so by all accounts, the resulting foals from the use of assisted reproduction techniques are just regular foals that look, act and perform like the others, in all disciplines. Including quarter horse racing, which is my discipline.
Please show me the source that is keeping track of the number of "runners" which I assume you mean winners, but the terminology is vague, "from starters are not very good?" There is not a compilation of statistics with those variables anywhere, so I believe it's invalid to say as such. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts !
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| ndiehl - 2018-01-03 10:26 AM
Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts !
His stud fee is $5000, but you have to call InFoal and get the ICSI costs.
InFoal, Inc. 951-929-4533. |
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Location: Desert Land | madredepeanut - 2018-01-12 9:38 PM ndiehl - 2018-01-03 10:26 AM Bumping this up to see if anyone has called yet or knows the stud fee... I have no voice right now and it's driving me nuts ! His stud fee is $5000, but you have to call InFoal and get the ICSI costs. InFoal, Inc. 951-929-4533.
ICSI through Dr. Beck is (was) a $10k flat rate at 45 days confirmed pregnany. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Meep.Meep - 2017-11-02 2:46 PM I am so old school when it comes to this stuff....Throw a mare out with a stud, make a foal....Call me old fashioned lol
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Strawfly Special returning to breeding world