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          Location: Missouri | I left a job at the court house to work for a private law firm 3 1/2 years ago. The money was so much better and a more relaxed atmosphere. When I arrived the previous secretary hadn't been there for 3 weeks and the attorney was about 2 months behind, plus I was now the County Counselor's secretary. There was nobody here to guide me so I had to figure it out as I went. Needless to say I thought things had be going fairley well the past few years. The County Counselor is very hard to work for and we've had numerous issues. He get's quite mean when things don't go right. Well, I made a mistake and yesterday he was beyond furious. Chewed me out 3 different times and in front of people. I have no explination why I did what I did. Brain fart maybe? I don't know. Apparently I did it correct last year and screwed up major this year and like I said, I cannot explain why. This morning he accused me of lying and trying to decieve him. It's been an extreme last 24 hours. All I can do is apologize and I have. The other issue is the attorney I work for in the office is running for Judge next year and has basically checked out. He gets extremely stressed when I ask him a work related question like omg sorry I'm making you be a lawyer! He's very passive agressive. I would give anything to be able to be my own boss and make a living without. I wish I had some kind of talent that would allow me to do so. I'm nearing the end of my working career. I'm 56 and plan on retiring at 65. I just want to pack up my office and go home. I'm beyond miserable. |
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           Location: Kansas | sounds like a hostile work environment.....I'd quit.
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     Location: Texas | There is absolutely no reason for someone to chew you out in front of other people, and you should remind him of that. Do the same thing to him if you must. You don't deserve to be treated that way and you shouldn't tolerate it. I hope things get better for you. |
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| Tbred - 2017-11-07 12:12 PM
I left a job at the court house to work for a private law firm 3 1/2 years ago. The money was so much better and a more relaxed atmosphere. When I arrived the previous secretary hadn't been there for 3 weeks and the attorney was about 2 months behind, plus I was now the County Counselor's secretary. There was nobody here to guide me so I had to figure it out as I went. Needless to say I thought things had be going fairley well the past few years. The County Counselor is very hard to work for and we've had numerous issues. He get's quite mean when things don't go right. Well, I made a mistake and yesterday he was beyond furious. Chewed me out 3 different times and in front of people. I have no explination why I did what I did. Brain fart maybe? I don't know. Apparently I did it correct last year and screwed up major this year and like I said, I cannot explain why. This morning he accused me of lying and trying to decieve him. It's been an extreme last 24 hours. All I can do is apologize and I have. The other issue is the attorney I work for in the office is running for Judge next year and has basically checked out. He gets extremely stressed when I ask him a work related question like omg sorry I'm making you be a lawyer! He's very passive agressive. I would give anything to be able to be my own boss and make a living without. I wish I had some kind of talent that would allow me to do so. I'm nearing the end of my working career. I'm 56 and plan on retiring at 65. I just want to pack up my office and go home. I'm beyond miserable.
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          Location: South Georgia | I was a legal assistant for 6 years before and during my undergrad. What you describe is just how some attorneys are. They are used to getting their way and they don't care about stepping on you. I'd suggest you put out feelers and give some people a call and see if you can find another position at a different law office. It's not worth being miserable.
Side note--I am an English major and one attorney I worked for made me write HIM a paper arguing whether the word "done" or "finished" is the appropriate response to give him once I had finished his assignments he left out for me. I have a name for him! |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2017-11-07 12:16 PM
sounds like a hostile work environment.....I'd quit.
Let them do the paperwork themselves, then maybe they will be a little more respectful to those who are in that position.
The last place I worked I was the secretary for a couple that just happened to be going thru an ugly divorce.. I had just gotten divorced myself and I needed the job so I just did it... these people were straight up nuts! They'd get into screaming matches and they'd throw stuff, cops would come etc etc... they'd play tug o war with me... then they would both tell me the other one said this or that about you.. it was HORRIBLE. The absolute last straw was when I got a phone call from my brother in law when I was at work telling me my aunt had just committed suicide, I was crying in my office and I told them I needed to leave, that crazy loon had the nerve to say I didn't have vacation time and I couldn't take any time off, if I did, I wouldn't be paid... I packed my stuff and peeled out of the driveway.. I ended up having to block their numbers from my cell phone because they were harassing me... you can't make that $hit up! |
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| I worked for an equine surgeon once- exaclty the same way. The ego/passive agressiveness/lack of HR department made things emotionally draining. NOTHING you could do would be worthy of that kind of treatment. I'd suggest taking your skills and search for a purchasing position at a manufacturing company. Still good money and good hours and there's an HR department!! |
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          Location: Missouri | There are some positions open at the court house but I struggled so bad financially when I worked there I'm not sure I'd want to go back. Plus, since I left them once..........would they even take me? I wish my husband made enough so that I could find something else, but we rely heavily on what I make because I bring home more. What bothers me most is the fact he said I lied and was decieving him! He asked me a direct question and I gave him a direct answer. Neither one of us elaborated. I learned NOT to elaborate my answer with him a long time ago because what I get is.............i don't care how it works, just do it. Then today he said I should have said more...............ugh |
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         Location: Louisiana | I would have walked out.
I refuse to be treated as "less than" just because of my education, salary, gender, etc.
I also understand not everyone can afford to "walk out" in the moment, but I dang sure would be looking for a new option.
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          Location: Texas | Been there. If he cusses, quit and collect unemployment. As someone else said, hostile work environment. |
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      Location: Oakdale, CA | that sucks...........I'm sorry. I would never quit a job or burn a bridge I would definately look for another job.......
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           Location: Kansas | Fun2Run - 2017-11-07 12:33 PM
Been there. If he cusses, quit and collect unemployment. As someone else said, hostile work environment.
In our state, if you quit....you don't qualify for unemployment. Only if you're fired |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | If you can prove any of this I would keep record. Just remember, recording a person on video or voice recorder without their knowledge in some states is illegal. Any email, any eye witness statement that can be signed and notorized without the boss knowing, any text, or note. It's all evidence. BUT, I would be dotting my I's and crossing my T's while looking for a way out at the right time. There are so many instances in your original post that are grounds for unemployment to be drawn while you look for another job. To me, that's what unemployment is for: To use in order to get out of an unfair or terrible work situation while you are looking for a job. No shame there.  |
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| I see you are in MO. File a complaint with the EEOC for hostile work environment. This falls under sexual harrassment. Then he can go home and explain why he has a sexual harrassment charge against him. I worked for a man that this happened to. Funny thing was the one that filed against him was the one that created the hostile work environment.
Don't just quit over this and do not just not show up for a few days to get fired. That is considered self termination and you will need to wait 6 months to get unemployment in MO.
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| That really stinks. Maybe send him an email (that way he has to read the intirety)and explain that you just made a mistake and it was not malicious at all. He should feel bad for speaking to you that way esp in front of others.
I have been there. I was an assistant to a man right under the VP for the 2nd largest oil company in the world. He gave me instructions to come get him out of a meeting when a guest of his arrived. When that person arrived a supervisor told me not to interrupt the meeting..that he would text the boss to let him know.. Well boss didnt get the text and he came out angry to learn I had not gotten him. He yelled at me in the hall and all the other employees could hear. He treated me fine after he learned the whole story but he never apologized. |
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| dashnlotti - 2017-11-07 12:32 PM
I would have walked out.
I refuse to be treated as "less than" just because of my education, salary, gender, etc.
I also understand not everyone can afford to "walk out" in the moment, but I dang sure would be looking for a new option.
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| If your resume isn't up to date it's time to do so and post on Indeed or other sites and start looking. You are choosing to stay miserable because it is easier than getting your stuff together and making a change. I get it's hard to adjust to a change in income but you are choosing to be uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day just to be slghtly more comfortable for the few hours you get to be home. I'm not telling you to just walk out the door but I would be actively looking and applying for a different job. If it gets bad enough to walk sell off any extra vehicles, horses, etc. and be happier with less stuff and less stress. |
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          Location: Missouri | I hear what ya'll are saying. I should be happy but gosh darn it I just wanted to work someplace till I retire. Starting new again at 56 blows and staying here blows. I don't want the last 8 years of my employment to be miserable. The only thing I was ever really good at was waiting tables and that blows too, lol. I'm good at riding young horses out and about and exposing them to all kinds of things and having super easy going barrel horses you can trail ride without a fight but I'm pretty sure there isn't a market for that, lol. |
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| Tbred - 2017-11-07 2:34 PM I hear what ya'll are saying. I should be happy but gosh darn it I just wanted to work someplace till I retire. Starting new again at 56 blows and staying here blows. I don't want the last 8 years of my employment to be miserable. The only thing I was ever really good at was waiting tables and that blows too, lol. I'm good at riding young horses out and about and exposing them to all kinds of things and having super easy going barrel horses you can trail ride without a fight but I'm pretty sure there isn't a market for that, lol.
If it were a year or two off then I would say stick it out but it's not and what happens if it gets pushed back a few years for any number of reasons? Do you want to be miserable for 20,870 more hours of your life? I am firm believer God makes us uncomfortable in order to get us to change. When things are easy and going well we usually have no motivation to change. The fact that it has gotten to the point of misery tells me you should be so uncomfortable staying the same that change should be welcome, maybe not easy but at least change should give you hope. |
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       Location: North Dakota | Ugg, I would start looking for a new job.
Being a boss myself, I could NEVER imagine calling someone out in front of other employees or clients. If there is a problem with an employee, you speak to them in private with a rational head on your shoulders.
You spend the majority of your time at work. It's miserable to be miserable. No one should have to put up with that. Money is nice but your mental well-being is important too. |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | I spent 40+ years working for several generations of a very difficult wealthy family. They wanted what the wanted when they wanted it --didn't care if it was impossible or unreasonable. Many, many individuals came and went in my office over the years. I survived because I early on understood that the would walk on anyone who would put up with their chit. I let them know that I was willing to take responsibility for my work and any mistakes I made. I would not however be yelled at, berated or belittled by any of them. Didn't take long to come to an understanding!! When the backslid over the years the most effective response was to start laughing and walk away from their tantrums.
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          Location: Missouri | r_beau - 2017-11-07 3:47 PM
Ugg, I would start looking for a new job.
Being a boss myself, I could NEVER imagine calling someone out in front of other employees or clients. If there is a problem with an employee, you speak to them in private with a rational head on your shoulders.
You spend the majority of your time at work. It's miserable to be miserable. No one should have to put up with that. Money is nice but your mental well-being is important too.
No doubt! After he was making a scene in front of 2 people and stormed out, 1 of the commissioners came out of his office and asked what that was all about and I said........oh I made a mistake and he's mad at me, to which the commissioner said well he better chill out or he'll be mad at you outside of the building. Which, made me feel a little better, however they are all part of the good ole boys club and I doubt very seriously if anyone will have a talk with him.
Today when he decided to accuse me of lying he at least did it in private. I doubt our working relationship can ever be repaired. It's a small town so it's going to be hard to find something unless I go in a completely different job type direction. Hate to shorten my years of retirement I have already put in. I'll have 8 years this summer in County retirement. |
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        Location: the end of the rainbow | AnotherRound - 2017-11-07 12:24 PMIf your resume isn't up to date it's time to do so and post on Indeed or other sites and start looking. You are choosing to stay miserable because it is easier than getting your stuff together and making a change. I get it's hard to adjust to a change in income but you are choosing to be uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day just to be slghtly more comfortable for the few hours you get to be home. I'm not telling you to just walk out the door but I would be actively looking and applying for a different job. If it gets bad enough to walk sell off any extra vehicles, horses, etc. and be happier with less stuff and less stress. Yeah, what she said. Having worked for attorneys for almost 30 years I know exactly where you are coming from. And in empathy I too am currently struggling with an unreasonable boss. But she is an elected official & I have a really well paying county job I don't want to leave. I am still holding out hope that she will be gone by the end of next so I know I'm being a hypocrite when I advise you not to stay in miserable job. But I do feel your pain.
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Go to the police station and file a complaint and or charges against him. Make them show up. Now you will have his undivided attention. Tell him he can speak to you as his equal or shut his loud f-n mouth. Or put a fake smile on your face and say thank you I needed that. It will never happen again and take your Hiney home. |
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| got boost? - 2017-11-07 12:43 PM
that sucks...........I'm sorry. I would never quit a job or burn a bridge I would definately look for another job.......
who can live off of un employment....................you will find something hang in there.........
THIS - I would NEVER quit a job until I had another one but I am scared to death of being broke and living in a van next to the river!
A BAD boss can make ALL the difference. I had a boss that was so awful, I would hope to hit a deer on the way to work so I wouldn't have to come in - and THAT is NOT healthy! |
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| Griz - 2017-11-08 5:52 AM
got boost? - 2017-11-07 12:43 PM
that sucks...........I'm sorry. I would never quit a job or burn a bridge I would definately look for another job.......
who can live off of un employment....................you will find something hang in there.........
THIS - I would NEVER quit a job until I had another one but I am scared to death of being broke and living in a van next to the river!
A BAD boss can make ALL the difference. I had a boss that was so awful, I would hope to hit a deer on the way to work so I wouldn't have to come in - and THAT is NOT healthy!
That is a scary thought process. I would rather live in a van down by the river than to be wishing to hit a deer on the way to work |
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| I recently left a job about 2 weeks ago. I was there for about 3 years, and have been dealing with verbal sexual harassment almost daily for the 3 years from the owner of the company. I literally dreaded going to work, I cried on my lunch break, and looked for jobs daily! Finally, I had enough. I'm without a job right now, and it's been tough, but I am so happy to be out of a hostile work environment. Good luck, I know how you feel! Life is too short to be anything but happy! |
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          Location: Missouri | willrodeo4food - 2017-11-07 5:58 PM AnotherRound - 2017-11-07 12:24 PMIf your resume isn't up to date it's time to do so and post on Indeed or other sites and start looking. You are choosing to stay miserable because it is easier than getting your stuff together and making a change. I get it's hard to adjust to a change in income but you are choosing to be uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day just to be slghtly more comfortable for the few hours you get to be home. I'm not telling you to just walk out the door but I would be actively looking and applying for a different job. If it gets bad enough to walk sell off any extra vehicles, horses, etc. and be happier with less stuff and less stress. Yeah, what she said. Having worked for attorneys for almost 30 years I know exactly where you are coming from. And in empathy I too am currently struggling with an unreasonable boss. But she is an elected official & I have a really well paying county job I don't want to leave. I am still holding out hope that she will be gone by the end of next so I know I'm being a hypocrite when I advise you not to stay in miserable job. But I do feel your pain.
Yes exactly this is the County Attorney that's a butt! I work at a private firm but also for the County. They pay half my salary and I too don't want to lose that pay and bene's, however, I don't think he's retiring anytime soon and he's not an elected official unfortunately. It's a package deal and while I don't really want to leave the firm, I don't want to work for the County Counselor anymore but I can't quit one and not the other.
I spent all night last night trying to figure out how I could re-invent myself and I don't even know where to start. I would love a non typical job, something not in an office. If I could just come up with a million dollar idea!   |
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        Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | Tbred - 2017-11-08 9:25 AM willrodeo4food - 2017-11-07 5:58 PM AnotherRound - 2017-11-07 12:24 PMIf your resume isn't up to date it's time to do so and post on Indeed or other sites and start looking. You are choosing to stay miserable because it is easier than getting your stuff together and making a change. I get it's hard to adjust to a change in income but you are choosing to be uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day just to be slghtly more comfortable for the few hours you get to be home. I'm not telling you to just walk out the door but I would be actively looking and applying for a different job. If it gets bad enough to walk sell off any extra vehicles, horses, etc. and be happier with less stuff and less stress. Yeah, what she said. Having worked for attorneys for almost 30 years I know exactly where you are coming from. And in empathy I too am currently struggling with an unreasonable boss. But she is an elected official & I have a really well paying county job I don't want to leave. I am still holding out hope that she will be gone by the end of next so I know I'm being a hypocrite when I advise you not to stay in miserable job. But I do feel your pain. Yes exactly this is the County Attorney that's a butt! I work at a private firm but also for the County. They pay half my salary and I too don't want to lose that pay and bene's, however, I don't think he's retiring anytime soon and he's not an elected official unfortunately. It's a package deal and while I don't really want to leave the firm, I don't want to work for the County Counselor anymore but I can't quit one and not the other.
I spent all night last night trying to figure out how I could re-invent myself and I don't even know where to start. I would love a non typical job, something not in an office. If I could just come up with a million dollar idea!  
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     Location: Way up North | Do you have any contacts with 'headhunters'? Sometime's they can be great because they know of something or they do the leg work and find something that isn't listed, they set up the interviews and help get you in the door. My husband ended up with one of his jobs because a head hunter contacted him, he wasn't looking for a change and th ejob wasn't advertised but it kind of all fell into place and ended up being a great move for him. |
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| Meep.Meep - 2017-11-08 7:05 AM
Griz - 2017-11-08 5:52 AM
got boost? - 2017-11-07 12:43 PM
that sucks...........I'm sorry. I would never quit a job or burn a bridge I would definately look for another job.......
who can live off of un employment....................you will find something hang in there.........
THIS - I would NEVER quit a job until I had another one but I am scared to death of being broke and living in a van next to the river!
A BAD boss can make ALL the difference. I had a boss that was so awful, I would hope to hit a deer on the way to work so I wouldn't have to come in - and THAT is NOT healthy!
That is a scary thought process. I would rather live in a van down by the river than to be wishing to hit a deer on the way to work
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| I was going thru this just yesterday. I am a government employee, been here for over 30 years. I was so excited 5 years ago when I came to this area, thought I was going to be able to make a difference. Well the big whigs don't want us to make a difference, they just want the numbers to look good. I fight an eternal battle with doing the right thing and doing what we are told to do. But I'm to close to retirement to leave. So I just get on BHW and dream of all the pretty ponies that I want. |
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          Location: Missouri | AllAroundRider - 2017-11-08 10:24 AM Do you have any contacts with 'headhunters'? Sometime's they can be great because they know of something or they do the leg work and find something that isn't listed, they set up the interviews and help get you in the door. My husband ended up with one of his jobs because a head hunter contacted him, he wasn't looking for a change and th ejob wasn't advertised but it kind of all fell into place and ended up being a great move for him.
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        Location: the end of the rainbow | Tbred - 2017-11-08 6:25 AM
willrodeo4food - 2017-11-07 5:58 PM AnotherRound - 2017-11-07 12:24 PMIf your resume isn't up to date it's time to do so and post on Indeed or other sites and start looking. You are choosing to stay miserable because it is easier than getting your stuff together and making a change. I get it's hard to adjust to a change in income but you are choosing to be uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day just to be slghtly more comfortable for the few hours you get to be home. I'm not telling you to just walk out the door but I would be actively looking and applying for a different job. If it gets bad enough to walk sell off any extra vehicles, horses, etc. and be happier with less stuff and less stress. Yeah, what she said. Having worked for attorneys for almost 30 years I know exactly where you are coming from. And in empathy I too am currently struggling with an unreasonable boss. But she is an elected official & I have a really well paying county job I don't want to leave. I am still holding out hope that she will be gone by the end of next so I know I'm being a hypocrite when I advise you not to stay in miserable job. But I do feel your pain.
Yes exactly this is the County Attorney that's a butt! I work at a private firm but also for the County. They pay half my salary and I too don't want to lose that pay and bene's, however, I don't think he's retiring anytime soon and he's not an elected official unfortunately. It's a package deal and while I don't really want to leave the firm, I don't want to work for the County Counselor anymore but I can't quit one and not the other.
I spent all night last night trying to figure out how I could re-invent myself and I don't even know where to start. I would love a non typical job, something not in an office. If I could just come up with a million dollar idea!  
Election season starts in January. I am not looking forward to the drama it will be bringing to our office. I too will be racking my brain for that million dollar idea. Or at the very least a work from home job that pays close to what I'm getting now. If I figure it out I will let you know. |
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     Location: Oklahoma | I have been there! I worked for a gov. program. I was there 2 1/2 years! the first 6 months I went home crying every night! The boss would set you up for failure! and she would tell you one thing and if someone got upset she would say something completely different and say I didn't tell you that to make herself look good. I said a prayer every morning before I left for work and asked to help me to deal and made myself happy no matter what and it was really hard! There was 3 head honchos that was really shady and one of them was my boss. I stayed true to myself and never cover for them. They did a very huge shady thing that I just couldn't take anymore and I spent the last 6 months looking and waiting for a job. I got a job at a casino and in the vault. and I love it, but it was a $-3-4 cut! I had a lot of convincing the husband and told him God will take care of this and we will make it one way or another We just gotta believe! and I never looked back not once did I regret taking a lesser pay! I am happy and love my job and the people I work with! That was 3 years ago! It took awhile and we did feel the pain when I first quit but somehow bills got paid and I was still able to take care of my horses. and my husband gets to take off and go hunting when he wants. We still have to watch what we do but we both are so much happy since I left that environment! I picked the casino bc they have rules and cant be shady here lol but some people do break the rules tho so it doesn't matter where you go. Money Is not worth being miserable! I get it is scary! but if you have a relationship with God step out in faith and you will be amazed where you just might be at! I never thought I would be so much better now than then. I loved that job I just couldn't stomach the crookiness! Weird thing is actually we have more money that we did when I worked for that miserable place for more money! Go figure! That's why I believe that it is a God thing! Hugs and praying for you! |
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     Location: North of Tulsa, Oklahoma | I understand and sympathize. I, along with many others, were let go through a big lay off at the Tribe I worked for in Social Services. Unfortunately it was due to a newer Tribal Chief playing the race card against non-tribal members. I had been there 9 years and busted my rear to learn and do my job the best and was well-respected in the court system and enjoyed my job.
I took an $18K paycut and returned to teaching. Although I love my coworkers and grade level teammates, I'm often miserable. I teach in a rough school and my first graders are complete monsters. I do love these children and work LONG hours to prepare and teach to the best of my ability, but it's making me physically ill some days. I'm determined to survive this year and make certain my students are successful and growing academically. However, I am and will be job hunting!
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     Location: Way up North | Tbred - 2017-11-08 11:08 AM AllAroundRider - 2017-11-08 10:24 AM Do you have any contacts with 'headhunters'? Sometime's they can be great because they know of something or they do the leg work and find something that isn't listed, they set up the interviews and help get you in the door. My husband ended up with one of his jobs because a head hunter contacted him, he wasn't looking for a change and th ejob wasn't advertised but it kind of all fell into place and ended up being a great move for him. Not sure we have head hunters in Podunk County USA , lol Believe me, you can't get much more Podunk than we are here. We are 45 minutes from the nearest Walmart even. Granted my husband is in Ag and that's a strong market around here but it's not like we are in NYC and he's a lawyer. There has to be hiring agencies in your area, can't hurt to call them and let them know your experience and what you are looking for and just maybe they will have something for you.
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          Location: Missouri | My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol. |
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| Life is too short. Start planning your exit right now. Start making cuts any way you can to save up for quitting or finding another job even if it pays less. Eating out, Cable/TV, Shopping, Entry Fees, are all suggestions, or even if you have some things you could sell. Trust me. Living without these things will be way worth not spending every day hating your life. There is always a way out, just not always an easy way. I wish you the best of luck. |
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      Location: Oakdale, CA | Tbred - 2017-11-09 7:21 AM My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol
Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol.
I love cows! Turn in your application you never know.............Starting out at the bottom is ok..... It might prep you for something else.........goodluck girl! |
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| Tbred - 2017-11-09 9:21 AM
My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol.
Legal, Moral and Ethical...passed my litmus test. And it could get you into something new that you totally love. In my opinion, and my world, horses and cows just go together naturally. AND, you can yell at the cows and call them any name you want, it won't hurt their feelings either. LOL |
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          Location: Missouri | TxRanchWoman - 2017-11-09 2:34 PM Tbred - 2017-11-09 9:21 AM My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol
Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol. Legal, Moral and Ethical...passed my litmus test. And it could get you into something new that you totally love. In my opinion, and my world, horses and cows just go together naturally. AND, you can yell at the cows and call them any name you want, it won't hurt their feelings either. LOL
I text my hubby and he said NO. I text back why? No response yet, lol. I would love to tell cows my problems every day. It would be theraputic, lol And they have babies that need bottle feeding! It's only a couple miles farther than I drive. My commute now is only 2 miles (spoiled). Downside would be working a milk shift from 10pm to 3 a.m, however I know because my daughter has done it, she get's double pay for that shift. There are no holiday's at a Dairy either which would be a bummer too. He probably doesn't want me to because it would be wierd hours. Heaven forbid I wouldn't be home to make supper! |
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| Tbred - 2017-11-09 3:07 PM
TxRanchWoman - 2017-11-09 2:34 PM Tbred - 2017-11-09 9:21 AM My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol
Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol. Legal, Moral and Ethical...passed my litmus test. And it could get you into something new that you totally love. In my opinion, and my world, horses and cows just go together naturally. AND, you can yell at the cows and call them any name you want, it won't hurt their feelings either. LOL
I text my hubby and he said NO. I text back why? No response yet, lol. I would love to tell cows my problems every day. It would be theraputic, lol And they have babies that need bottle feeding! It's only a couple miles farther than I drive. My commute now is only 2 miles (spoiled). Downside would be working a milk shift from 10pm to 3 a.m, however I know because my daughter has done it, she get's double pay for that shift. There are no holiday's at a Dairy either which would be a bummer too. He probably doesn't want me to because it would be wierd hours. Heaven forbid I wouldn't be home to make supper!
I will be honest, and you probably already know this, but a job at a dairy is WORK!! Hard, nasty, dirty, never-ending work. But if it is something you would like....My hubby wouldn't go for it either, but he knows I would be roping the cows, getting into trouble, and probably bringing home calves. lol |
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          Location: Missouri | TxRanchWoman - 2017-11-09 3:24 PM Tbred - 2017-11-09 3:07 PM TxRanchWoman - 2017-11-09 2:34 PM Tbred - 2017-11-09 9:21 AM My daughter works part time at a Dairy Farm while going to school. They had an ad in this weeks paper for full time and part time work. Would I be completely insane if I left a law firm to work in a Dairy? Sweat in the summer freeze in the winter and be covered in cow poop? At the moment that sounds appealing, lol
Jeans, bibs, boots.............no skirts, heels, slacks or makeup. The cows can complain all they want and it won't hurt my feelings, lol. Legal, Moral and Ethical...passed my litmus test. And it could get you into something new that you totally love. In my opinion, and my world, horses and cows just go together naturally. AND, you can yell at the cows and call them any name you want, it won't hurt their feelings either. LOL I text my hubby and he said NO. I text back why? No response yet, lol. I would love to tell cows my problems every day. It would be theraputic, lol And they have babies that need bottle feeding! It's only a couple miles farther than I drive. My commute now is only 2 miles (spoiled). Downside would be working a milk shift from 10pm to 3 a.m, however I know because my daughter has done it, she get's double pay for that shift. There are no holiday's at a Dairy either which would be a bummer too. He probably doesn't want me to because it would be wierd hours. Heaven forbid I wouldn't be home to make supper! I will be honest, and you probably already know this, but a job at a dairy is WORK!! Hard, nasty, dirty, never-ending work. But if it is something you would like....My hubby wouldn't go for it either, but he knows I would be roping the cows, getting into trouble, and probably bringing home calves. lol
Yeah I know how disgusting and hard it is because my daughter works there and she reaks and is literally covered in poop every shift. She's a milker and they run 800 head in 3 times a day. She's been there over a year and it's a good part time job for her while going to college. |
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| Don't they have some sort to Ethics line you can call or email. Hostile Work Environment issues are reasons to utilize those services and they will open up an investigation. Good Luck, I hate my job too. Why can't I just win a lottery... |
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    Location: Being pushed over the edge, NM | This is what HR is for, have you contacted them? |
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| Hard physical labor beats office work any day. It's good for the soul too. Nothing like getting home, plopping down in a chair out of sheer exhaustion, every muscle aching. So rewarding I'd go work at the dairy |
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     Location: OH. IO | How about babysitting??HOLY COW ,DO YOU SEE WHAT THEY CHARGE THESE DAYS????you could be rich lol. |
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| Have you or can you talk to the other 1/2 (private lawyers) about how he treats you? What the heck it is worth a shot. As for the dairy if you got hired you could at least use it to tide you over until something else comes along. On thing I would say is that remember your age and how hard it will be on your body. My mom used to do relief milking for a dairy, lot of walking and all manual labor. Follow your gut and heart |
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   Location: Texas | Remember who HR works for and it's not you.......They will back the company everytime so Beware!!!!!!!! |
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     Location: OH. IO | prober - 2017-11-12 7:40 AM
Remember who HR works for and it's not you.......They will back the company everytime so Beware!!!!!!!!
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| prober - 2017-11-12 6:40 AM
Remember who HR works for and it's not you.......They will back the company everytime so Beware!!!!!!!!
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 Location: Washington State | This entire forum spoke to me so much, I'm going through something very similar dealing with a very, very difficult immediate supervisor. I have approached HR many, many times and it helps for a short period but then it goes right back to the way it was. We work 60-75 hours a week and I'm salaried so I get no added benefit for longer hours. Unfortunately this has been my first job right out of college and to outsiders it seems to be an amazing job in a supervisory role at a large corporation, but I'm miserable here. And I don't have time for any outside activities such as even riding my horse and I have had to give up barrel racing almost completely. But, at the same time I'm also terrified that I don't have enough job experience to seek greener pastures elsewhere. And, there's the fear of the "grass isn't always greener".
I hope you find a solution to your situation!
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          Location: Missouri | I agree HR 100% isn't going to do squat. They don't want to go up against the County Attorney! Heck, a commissioner heard him and didn't do anything. I did explain what went down with the attorney I work for at the firm. He agreed it was uncalled for and everyone knows he's like that. On top of everything, the guy is his wife's uncle. The attorney I work for knows I did not lie or try to deceive anyone and I wasn't trying to cover up a mistake, as I've admitted to everyone I messed up. He thinks he'll get over it. I'm not sure I will. I'm going to keep my options open and my eyes peeled. |
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    Location: California | I highly suggest actively looking for something you'd enjoy. However, in the meantime be careful what you wish for. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | How is the dairy pay compared to what you're making now?
The poop you're putting up with now is probably worse than anything coming out of a cow.
The dairy thing sounds like a dream job for me, if the pay is there. But, I'm weird when it comes to work... I always like the more difficult assignments. Keeps my hands and my mind busy, I'm happiest that way. |
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          Location: Missouri | Nita - 2017-11-13 7:09 PM How is the dairy pay compared to what you're making now? The poop you're putting up with now is probably worse than anything coming out of a cow. The dairy thing sounds like a dream job for me, if the pay is there. But, I'm weird when it comes to work... I always like the more difficult assignments. Keeps my hands and my mind busy, I'm happiest that way.
I wouldn't make much at the dairy compared to now unless I did the midnight shift. So far this week I've managed to avoid him, as we don't even work in the same building. Had to have him sign time sheets Monday but that was it. No eye contact or small talk. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | Tbred - 2017-11-14 2:34 PM
Nita - 2017-11-13 7:09 PM How is the dairy pay compared to what you're making now? The poop you're putting up with now is probably worse than anything coming out of a cow. The dairy thing sounds like a dream job for me, if the pay is there. But, I'm weird when it comes to work... I always like the more difficult assignments. Keeps my hands and my mind busy, I'm happiest that way.
I wouldn't make much at the dairy compared to now unless I did the midnight shift. So far this week I've managed to avoid him, as we don't even work in the same building. Had to have him sign time sheets Monday but that was it. No eye contact or small talk.
That sounds just miserable. I'm sorry you're going through that.
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| I worked the same job for 17 years and I was miserable but scared to change. In August of this year I applied for a job and got it. I took a pay cut but made up for it with great insurance and retirement. It was the best thing I have ever done for myself. I just wish I would have done it sooner. |
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         Location: SW MO | My daughter had worked really hard to get a biology & chemistry degree. She worked in the medical field and hated it, but didn’t want to take another job because she felt like she was wasting her degrees. Finally she applied for different job that had nothing to do with her degrees and she would be taking a slight cut in pay. She got the job. She works in the cooperate office for Oreilly’s Automotive . She wasn’t supposed to be able to get a promotion for a year but got one in 4 months. She now makes more money than she did before & she says on her worth day she just thinks at least I don’t have to be in the medical field anymore |
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     Location: Way up North | I wanted to come back and add that I ended up with my last job because I had made it my New Years Resolution to take more risks so I sent my resume and cover letter to the company and asked for a job. They had never advertised an opening and I didn't know anyone at the company, I just decided I wanted to work there and the worst they could do is ignore me. About a month after I sent it they called me late on a Saturday and asked me to come interview, I did and they hired me at the interview that night. They created the positition I had there, said they hadn't even thought about it until they got my letter. So I guess what I am saying is if there is a job or a company you really want to work for just send them your info and see what happens even if they don't have ajob listing out there. |
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