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| I've been crying all the way home from the barn tonight..
I got completely yelled at by the barn owner tonight..
Last Sunday, I went to the barn around 10am, everyone was turned in. I asked one of the ladys who just works on the weekend if they were going out today, and she said no, due to the weather. It was cloudy and 50 degrees out. I asked her if I could turn him out, and have someone bring him in around feeding time. I said the more he gets out the better (for his arthritis). I said that he has been sore lately. (They were in for 3 days, as it was cloudy). She said that was fine.
Barn owner comes to me tonight in front of about 10 people, and says what I'm doing is bull****. That I shouldn't be speaking to her help that way, and they have done nothing but dote over my horse trying to put weight on him, etc, and I'm critiquing his care. She went on for about 5 min, saying if I have a problem then I need to come to her, and that if it's crappy weather they are not going to turn out, in case one gets sick, then they will get the other 50+ horses sick. I couldn't get a word in edgewise. I'm a very non confrontational person. I tried to tell her that it was a misunderstanding. She then interrupted me saying that my horse came with f*cking problems, and that his problems were not caused by being at this barn. I tried to tell her that I didn't mean anything by that comment. I told her that I appreciate all that they do, and I tell the help that all the time.
I'm just emotional right now. I told my husband what happened, and he is mad at me. I'm sorry ladies, I just feel alone. My husband is stressed out at work, and he said the last thing he needs is for us to get kicked out of the barn due to my behavior. He said he doesn't know what I can't just be nice. I have been..I guess it's all my fault. I just go to the barn, say hi to people, do my own thing, and leave. I pick up any mess I make, pay my board on time.
The trainer I am taking lessons with has absolutely no room until April when one of her boarders leaves for college. There's really not many places at all to move to even close to where I live. My husband is all worried that my behavior will cause us to get kicked out.
I guess I'm just hoping that she doesn't kick us out, and we can move in April. I'm just embarrassed.. | |
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| Oh man, I feel so bad for you. What a tough spot to be in. I am like you, no confrontational, but I get taken the wrong way ALL the time. People have a chip on their shoulder and read things into what you say trying to take it the wrong way. I am not a hugger but wish I could give you a hug right now. All I can offer is a "hang in there" but I know that's not too helpful.  | |
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  Location: Illinois | I board and I was kicked out of a barn once for asking that more horse got fed 2 flakes of hay twice a day. Said I was too high maintenance. I hate boarding, I've been through many places just trying to find someone who will feed what I ask them to feed, and I buy my own feed even. What the owner did to you was veryyyy unprofessional and if I was one of those people watching I would have jumped in and said that was not the place to be having a discussion. That should have been private between the two of you. All she wanted to do was assert her authority because she was probably butt hurt that you didn't say something to her. And I'm sorry but cloudy and 50 degrees??? OUTSIDE. That is absolutely not a reason to be stalled the whole day. Mine live outside with a lean to and unless its freezing rain, icy, nasty thunder storming, or a blizzard out they're in their paddocks. We've not had one get sick from being outside in the weather, its natural for them to be outside. But if I was treated like that then I would be leaving as soon as possible. If she had pulled you in private then maybe you could work past it, but that was too unprofessional. | |
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    Location: South Dakota | I feel bad this happened to you...maybe write the owner a letter, stating your position...and express regret for the whole misunderstanding, and that you had no ill intent, and was simply concerned about the well being of your horse....if they are jerks about that, I would be making plans for another place to board...and it would be nice if your husband would be supportive of you as well...he should be. Best wishes....stand up for yourself in a strong, polite way :) | |
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    Location: North Dakota | Cloudy outside?? huh?
I am sorry that sounds terrible. I too deal with a lot of crazy where I board. I just keep my head down and do the best I can with the situation. I get my arse chewed multiple times a week as the barn manager but I just take it and move on because I don't have any other options right now that I can afford.
Boarding is something that is far from ideal and absolutely terrible at times.
I feel for you because not turning out because it is cloudy is ridiculous.
I would just hope it blows over and stay till you can get out of the place in April. | |
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| I'm just really embarrassed..I feel like I can't do anything right.
I'm going to ride him tomorrow..and I just don't even want to go. I'm literally the type who just goes in, minds my own business, cleans up any mess I made, and leaves. I don't take lessons there, I pay my board on time. Since I've been there, it's been at least a dozen or more times when it's just been cloudy and they don't turn out. The more I'm on this site, the more I have realized that turnout is a great thing, especially for horses with arthritis. I was in no means nasty to the help on Sunday! The barn owner is a tough lady. She and her family own a huge working farm that leases out 700+ camp horses, buy, trade, sell horses, and run the rodeos here in the summer.
For the NBHA they host all of the 6 races a year at their facility. The new trainer I've been hauling to for lessons seems great, she has a 12 stall horse barn, 24/7 turnout, but brings them in for grain. She uses the slow feed hay nets outside. She hosts a local jackpot every week from may-sept. She hosts barrel racing clinics, has brought Connie combs in..I know that no boarding barn will be perfect, but it sounds like a better fit. She has a stall available in April, so I'm really hoping I don't get kicked out. I guess I will just not talk to anyone. I've been in tears all night feeling like a failure. I feel like everyone was staring at me at the barn..her comment about how my horse cane with f*cking problems irked me..I know he has issues, but I feel like she was rubbing that in..I feel like a ****ty person with a messed up horse..  | |
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     Location: Oklahoma | Ive had horses since I was 9 and Im 46 and I have yet have a horse that didn't have some kind of problem! When I lost a my horse a month ago and I told my vet that I think Im done because I cant keep one sound on top of losing my horse, he told me and he also has racehorses, He said they all have problems because they are athletes ! I feel for you on the boarding! It's your horse, I don't understand why you cant feed and do what you want with your horse (since they do allow turnout) and if they lady agreed to get your horse in for you. Sounds like that lady set you up and made it bigger than what it was. or the barn owner made it bigger than what it was! Where I boarded at I had to do my own feeding and turnouts if it was available and it was whoever got there first and of course keep my stalls clean so I really didn't have too much problems. After reading some horror stories on here bout boarding I didn't realize the barn people had so much control over one's horse. I couldn't handle that. I realize that I have been very blessed to be where I do the feeding and care of my horse that I just rented the area. Tho it was a pain to drive out there 2-4 times a day. But after reading these stories it was worth it! Hugs I know its not fun not having your horse with you at home! Praying one day that you can! | |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | wow! All I can think of is this isn't 1680 no one can possible think a horse will get sick from a little weather? Especially 50 degree and cloudy. What gets them sick is being confined to stalls with inadequate air flow or 70 degree days and 20 degree nights. | |
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        Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  | |
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| Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM
Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it. 
I think my husband was trying to tell me to just let the situation be what it is and to just do our thing until April..he's really stressed out at work, and told me he doesn't need any horse stress..I guess I just won't say anything about his care to anyone at the barn, and just wait it out until April. I'm going to look around to see if there is any other barns, I don't think there is but it's worth looking. | |
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| How well do you know the trainer you’ve been going to?
How much do you plan on riding over the winter?
I’d talk to the trainer and see if she knows of anyone who has a spot until April, even if it’s full turnout, sounds like that would be better for the horse anyway. You may loose some amenities until her stall opens up, but you may keep your sanity and enjoy seeing your horse - even if you’re hopping on him bareback in insulated bibs to wander around a pasture this winter. | |
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| Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either.
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          Location: South Georgia | Move your horse. Ask around. There are people who will take in one boarder who are not necessarily boarding facilities. Most do not advertise. You just need to find a place. Ask the feed store, farrier, vet, etc for a contact that may be able to help you. | |
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| OhMax - 2017-11-09 6:11 AM
How well do you know the trainer you’ve been going to?
How much do you plan on riding over the winter?
I’d talk to the trainer and see if she knows of anyone who has a spot until April, even if it’s full turnout, sounds like that would be better for the horse anyway. You may loose some amenities until her stall opens up, but you may keep your sanity and enjoy seeing your horse - even if you’re hopping on him bareback in insulated bibs to wander around a pasture this winter.
I've taken two lessons from her so far, and those two lessons were by far the best lessons I've had in 15 years. She seems to be on the ball, and I like her demeanor so far. She knows the barn I board at, as she grew up riding there. I've expressed a few concerns to her and she knew where I was coming from. I was planning on riding a lot this winter. She gave me the name of a barn to contact, and I'm going to this morning. Our spot in April sounds like it's pretty much guaranteed, as the girl is leaving for college. I told my trainer I would be willing to put a deposit on the stall down now, but she said that wasn't necessary. | |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either.
I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons. | |
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     Location: Jersey Girl | You need to find another place to board. Going to the barn is supposed to be relaxing and a place to enjoy.
I just moved my horses from a place that was run by someone that had nothing but her best interests at heart. I didn't realize how stressed I was until I moved out. This wasn't even full care. I take care of my own. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either. I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons.
Uggg, poor horses, horses are much happier when they get to be horses, sounds like a very uptight barn, hope you find a new place till April. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM
rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either.
I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons.
Why do they have cross ties if you aren't allowed to use them? I'd be searching high and low for a different place I wouldn't be able to handle anyone yelling at me over what I do with my horse... you pay to keep your horse there, they are providing you a service, therefore YOU are the customer. I'd have lost my $hit if a barn owner tried to berate me in front of the other boarders! I've boarded at my share of places and I can't think of anytime the bo made me feel bad or raised their voice at me and I consider myself pretty high maintenance when it comes to my horses care. I feel bad for you but I'd be looking and asking around to go somewhere else before they decide to ask you to leave! | |
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| want2chase3 - 2017-11-09 7:28 AM
emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM
rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either.
I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons.
Why do they have cross ties if you aren't allowed to use them? I'd be searching high and low for a different place I wouldn't be able to handle anyone yelling at me over what I do with my horse... you pay to keep your horse there, they are providing you a service, therefore YOU are the customer. I'd have lost my $hit if a barn owner tried to berate me in front of the other boarders! I've boarded at my share of places and I can't think of anytime the bo made me feel bad or raised their voice at me and I consider myself pretty high maintenance when it comes to my horses care. I feel bad for you but I'd be looking and asking around to go somewhere else before they decide to ask you to leave!
I feel if I went to the barn owner and asked a general questions, like, how many flakes do they get in the AM/PM, I feel like she would take it like I was critiquing what she does. I feel like a lot of the boarders there don't ask any questions, and as of now, I'm too scared to ask anything. I do completely understand that no boarding barn will ever be perfect, but I want to be able to ask a question if I have one.
The barn owner's interest is really in the kids there. The ones who's parents have a lot of money, and can afford expensive horses get the attention, and that's fine. Maybe a smaller barn with less horses would be better for us, I don't know anymore.
I guess I'm still irked that she told me my horse came with f*cking problems. I would never say that to someone, as I would not want to make them feel bad. That's exactly what she did to me. I don't have thick skin, so I guess I need to work on that. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:54 AM want2chase3 - 2017-11-09 7:28 AM emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either. I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons. Why do they have cross ties if you aren't allowed to use them? I'd be searching high and low for a different place I wouldn't be able to handle anyone yelling at me over what I do with my horse... you pay to keep your horse there, they are providing you a service, therefore YOU are the customer. I'd have lost my $hit if a barn owner tried to berate me in front of the other boarders! I've boarded at my share of places and I can't think of anytime the bo made me feel bad or raised their voice at me and I consider myself pretty high maintenance when it comes to my horses care. I feel bad for you but I'd be looking and asking around to go somewhere else before they decide to ask you to leave! I feel if I went to the barn owner and asked a general questions, like, how many flakes do they get in the AM/PM, I feel like she would take it like I was critiquing what she does. I feel like a lot of the boarders there don't ask any questions, and as of now, I'm too scared to ask anything. I do completely understand that no boarding barn will ever be perfect, but I want to be able to ask a question if I have one. The barn owner's interest is really in the kids there. The ones who's parents have a lot of money, and can afford expensive horses get the attention, and that's fine. Maybe a smaller barn with less horses would be better for us, I don't know anymore. I guess I'm still irked that she told me my horse came with f*cking problems. I would never say that to someone, as I would not want to make them feel bad. That's exactly what she did to me. I don't have thick skin, so I guess I need to work on that.
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | I would ask for a meeting and ask someone to sit in on the meeting who is neutral so things don't get heated. I would explain to the owner what happened and ask her to treat you with the same respect as you give her and not yell at you in public. (I assume). I would then ask her to write you a list of everything she feels you are doing wrong and ask for a second meeting next week. I would then address her concerns with you and explain why you do certain things or why certain situations happened. This will allow her to get everything off her chest she feels you are doing wrong and will allow you to make small changes in order to keep your head low and keep you off her radar until April. | |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 8:03 AM
emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:54 AM want2chase3 - 2017-11-09 7:28 AM emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either. I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons. Why do they have cross ties if you aren't allowed to use them? I'd be searching high and low for a different place I wouldn't be able to handle anyone yelling at me over what I do with my horse... you pay to keep your horse there, they are providing you a service, therefore YOU are the customer. I'd have lost my $hit if a barn owner tried to berate me in front of the other boarders! I've boarded at my share of places and I can't think of anytime the bo made me feel bad or raised their voice at me and I consider myself pretty high maintenance when it comes to my horses care. I feel bad for you but I'd be looking and asking around to go somewhere else before they decide to ask you to leave! I feel if I went to the barn owner and asked a general questions, like, how many flakes do they get in the AM/PM, I feel like she would take it like I was critiquing what she does. I feel like a lot of the boarders there don't ask any questions, and as of now, I'm too scared to ask anything. I do completely understand that no boarding barn will ever be perfect, but I want to be able to ask a question if I have one. The barn owner's interest is really in the kids there. The ones who's parents have a lot of money, and can afford expensive horses get the attention, and that's fine. Maybe a smaller barn with less horses would be better for us, I don't know anymore. I guess I'm still irked that she told me my horse came with f*cking problems. I would never say that to someone, as I would not want to make them feel bad. That's exactly what she did to me. I don't have thick skin, so I guess I need to work on that.
You don’t need a thick skin, you just need to get out of there.
Exactly.... it almost sounds to me like she's wanting you gone since you don't fit their typical boarders apparently. I think you'd be a lot happier at a smaller barn. I couldn't wait till April. | |
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| want2chase3 - 2017-11-09 8:56 AM
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emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:54 AM want2chase3 - 2017-11-09 7:28 AM emricmacy - 2017-11-09 7:11 AM rodeomom3 - 2017-11-09 6:30 AM Tilt The Kilt - 2017-11-08 7:48 PM Ok I have to ask...if the barn owner seemed to have taken the interactions one way (that you may have been accusatory towards the people and facility management) and your husband made a similar comment (about you needing to be nice and commented about your behavior getting the horse kicked out of the barn), is there a chance you are using vocabulary or a tone that doesn't seem unreasonable to your ears or mind, but comes across completely different to others? The way you wrote it here seems like a HUGE jump from how you asked to how the others are taking it.  I kind of thought this too, it seems you were a little irritated when they were keeping him up to try and put weight on him, maybe they did not feel you appreciated their attempt to help him even though it was not how you would have handled it. I was impressed they noticed and on their own were trying to help him. Regardless, the barn does not seem to be a good fit and until you can move I would apologize and smooth things over till you can find a new facility, in the meantime you may have to turn him out and put him up your self if they will allow it, or go to pasture board. When I use to board I had one that needed extra supplements and attention, I just did it myself to be sure it was getting done right but my barn was much more relaxed than what you are describing and they let the horses be horses, not up all the time. Just remember this is about getting the best care for your horse, not necessarily if she should have yelled at you-which was 100% wrong- bake the manager some cookies, kiss up to her , tell her you have been anxious about his care since finding about his arthritis issues, do this so your horse can get what he needs, you don’t have to like her. Check around, ask on FB, I bet you can find another place, i would not want to board there either. I am going to go to the barn this morning to ride, and will apologize again for any misunderstanding. They don't allow you to do much there. I got in trouble the other day for using the cross ties. They said no one can use cross ties, as there are kids around and they don't want the kids getting hurt. Some of the horses at the barn rarely go out. There are a lot of adults that board there, but they focus on kids lessons. Why do they have cross ties if you aren't allowed to use them? I'd be searching high and low for a different place I wouldn't be able to handle anyone yelling at me over what I do with my horse... you pay to keep your horse there, they are providing you a service, therefore YOU are the customer. I'd have lost my $hit if a barn owner tried to berate me in front of the other boarders! I've boarded at my share of places and I can't think of anytime the bo made me feel bad or raised their voice at me and I consider myself pretty high maintenance when it comes to my horses care. I feel bad for you but I'd be looking and asking around to go somewhere else before they decide to ask you to leave! I feel if I went to the barn owner and asked a general questions, like, how many flakes do they get in the AM/PM, I feel like she would take it like I was critiquing what she does. I feel like a lot of the boarders there don't ask any questions, and as of now, I'm too scared to ask anything. I do completely understand that no boarding barn will ever be perfect, but I want to be able to ask a question if I have one. The barn owner's interest is really in the kids there. The ones who's parents have a lot of money, and can afford expensive horses get the attention, and that's fine. Maybe a smaller barn with less horses would be better for us, I don't know anymore. I guess I'm still irked that she told me my horse came with f*cking problems. I would never say that to someone, as I would not want to make them feel bad. That's exactly what she did to me. I don't have thick skin, so I guess I need to work on that.
You don’t need a thick skin, you just need to get out of there.
Exactly.... it almost sounds to me like she's wanting you gone since you don't fit their typical boarders apparently. I think you'd be a lot happier at a smaller barn. I couldn't wait till April.
I feel like she just wants boarders who don't ask any questions. She has 52+ horses boarding there, and I'm sure she doesn't really care if I'm there or not. I'm not one to ever rush time away, but I can't wait until April..I have a text out to a friend asking if she knows of any places until April. I think I'm the black sheep at the barn now.
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  Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I feel for you hunny, Ive been in your same shoes before. Dont let others walk all over you, yes you are in her barn but youre paying HER to take care of your horse. I would absolutly find somewhre else to go. Do not wait untill april. I was in the same place as you and even got accused of stealing hay!!! How that was even possible is beyond me bc i didnt even get my hay from that location. That was the last straw for me. Ask around, post on fb, ask local trainer and riders. I recently got lucky enough to have found a couple that just needs some extra help around the barn and they are letting me keep my boys there in trade for work. Its so much better, my horses are happier, and i am too. No drama!! and i found them simply by posting on fb and a friend of a friend got me in contact. I wish you the best, i really do. Pray on it. Itll come <3 | |
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| Well, I went to the barn this afternoon, and it was VERY awkward. No one said anything to me, let alone looked at me. Owner wasn't there, she lives on the property, but was in her house, so I texted the barn manager apologizing for what happened. No text back.
Horse was lame, so that's not good..
The only lead I have right now is a girl I have been taking lessons with (not the one I will be moving to in April). She and her fiancé are starting from scratch at their house. She has an outdoor arena, and offers a rough board. There is a run in shed in the pasture. Grain, hay, blanketing, holding for vet/farrier. There is no barn really..she uses her fiancé's garage for vet/farrier appointments. They are eventually going to build a barn, but they can only do so much at once. About 2 miles or less on her road is an older gentleman who has a really nice, big indoor arena. It's just for his use, his wife has one horse, they do not offer boarding, or anything. Anyone can use his arena for $10, unlimited time. Her board is $250.00. If the weather is really severe she said she can take them down the street to her mother in laws barn for a few days if necessary. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 2:09 PM
Well, I went to the barn this afternoon, and it was VERY awkward. No one said anything to me, let alone looked at me. Owner wasn't there, she lives on the property, but was in her house, so I texted the barn manager apologizing for what happened. No text back.
Horse was lame, so that's not good..
The only lead I have right now is a girl I have been taking lessons with (not the one I will be moving to in April). She and her fiancé are starting from scratch at their house. She has an outdoor arena, and offers a rough board. There is a run in shed in the pasture. Grain, hay, blanketing, holding for vet/farrier. There is no barn really..she uses her fiancé's garage for vet/farrier appointments. They are eventually going to build a barn, but they can only do so much at once. About 2 miles or less on her road is an older gentleman who has a really nice, big indoor arena. It's just for his use, his wife has one horse, they do not offer boarding, or anything. Anyone can use his arena for $10, unlimited time. Her board is $250.00. If the weather is really severe she said she can take them down the street to her mother in laws barn for a few days if necessary.
Sounds perfect. Honestly you do not need a barn. Most of my horses don't even have a run in shed, as long as there is wind break they are fine. | |
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          Location: South Georgia | emricmacy - 2017-11-09 3:09 PM Well, I went to the barn this afternoon, and it was VERY awkward. No one said anything to me, let alone looked at me. Owner wasn't there, she lives on the property, but was in her house, so I texted the barn manager apologizing for what happened. No text back. Horse was lame, so that's not good.. The only lead I have right now is a girl I have been taking lessons with (not the one I will be moving to in April). She and her fiancé are starting from scratch at their house. She has an outdoor arena, and offers a rough board. There is a run in shed in the pasture. Grain, hay, blanketing, holding for vet/farrier. There is no barn really..she uses her fiancé's garage for vet/farrier appointments. They are eventually going to build a barn, but they can only do so much at once. About 2 miles or less on her road is an older gentleman who has a really nice, big indoor arena. It's just for his use, his wife has one horse, they do not offer boarding, or anything. Anyone can use his arena for $10, unlimited time. Her board is $250.00. If the weather is really severe she said she can take them down the street to her mother in laws barn for a few days if necessary.
Do it. My mare is on 100% pasture board with only trees as shelter and shes perfectly fine and totally comfortable. Plus, your horse needs turnout! | |
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| Now, it's just convincing my husband. Long story short, my MIL boards at the barn, and is best friends with the owner, and my husband grew up riding there. I don't care about any of the above, I only want what is best for my horse.
VT winters are brutal, so I know my husband will not like that he doesn't have a stall, but I think he would be much better. And, I just started learning to drive the truck with/trailer so the practice will be good! The indoor is literally less than 2 miles away, and $10 is not bad at all! It's only for 4 months. This girl takes great care of her horses. She barrel races on the NY circuit, and I don't for see any problems with her, we get along great. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 2:27 PM
Now, it's just convincing my husband. Long story short, my MIL boards at the barn, and is best friends with the owner, and my husband grew up riding there. I don't care about any of the above, I only want what is best for my horse.
VT winters are brutal, so I know my husband will not like that he doesn't have a stall, but I think he would be much better. And, I just started learning to drive the truck with/trailer so the practice will be good! The indoor is literally less than 2 miles away, and $10 is not bad at all! It's only for 4 months. This girl takes great care of her horses. She barrel races on the NY circuit, and I don't for see any problems with her, we get along great.
He said he didn't want any horse drama, so he shouldn't care where you board as long as he doesn't have to hear about it. I am a MIL and I would never expect my DIL to board, or even do as I do for her horses if she had any. It is none of my business and its none of your MIL's business, so it may not bother your MIL if you leave. Your husband needs to grow up if he lets his mommy try to tell you where to board your horse. I feel for you and am sorry you have to deal with this. I know how stressful it is when we have to worry about our furry babies. Hugs to you. (My momma instincts have kicked in so I apologize if I have offended you.)  | |
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| GLP - 2017-11-09 2:39 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-09 2:27 PM
Now, it's just convincing my husband. Long story short, my MIL boards at the barn, and is best friends with the owner, and my husband grew up riding there. I don't care about any of the above, I only want what is best for my horse.
VT winters are brutal, so I know my husband will not like that he doesn't have a stall, but I think he would be much better. And, I just started learning to drive the truck with/trailer so the practice will be good! The indoor is literally less than 2 miles away, and $10 is not bad at all! It's only for 4 months. This girl takes great care of her horses. She barrel races on the NY circuit, and I don't for see any problems with her, we get along great.
He said he didn't want any horse drama, so he shouldn't care where you board as long as he doesn't have to hear about it. I am a MIL and I would never expect my DIL to board, or even do as I do for her horses if she had any. It is none of my business and its none of your MIL's business, so it may not bother your MIL if you leave. Your husband needs to grow up if he lets his mommy try to tell you where to board your horse. I feel for you and am sorry you have to deal with this. I know how stressful it is when we have to worry about our furry babies. Hugs to you. (My momma instincts have kicked in so I apologize if I have offended you. ) 
No, thank you! I need a mom right now..my mom is great, but not a horse person, and lives hours and hours away..
Your right, he said he didn't want any drama, and he said it's my horse so I can do what I want. I just always wonder how I know I'm making the right decision about something. When I think about it, of course I like having a stall, but does my horse care? Probably not, he loves it outside. And it will be better for his arthritis. These amenities are really for me, and I don't care about a heated tack room, a stall, a wash rack anymore! I just am learning to not care about those things anymore. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 2:48 PM
GLP - 2017-11-09 2:39 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-09 2:27 PM
Now, it's just convincing my husband. Long story short, my MIL boards at the barn, and is best friends with the owner, and my husband grew up riding there. I don't care about any of the above, I only want what is best for my horse.
VT winters are brutal, so I know my husband will not like that he doesn't have a stall, but I think he would be much better. And, I just started learning to drive the truck with/trailer so the practice will be good! The indoor is literally less than 2 miles away, and $10 is not bad at all! It's only for 4 months. This girl takes great care of her horses. She barrel races on the NY circuit, and I don't for see any problems with her, we get along great.
He said he didn't want any horse drama, so he shouldn't care where you board as long as he doesn't have to hear about it. I am a MIL and I would never expect my DIL to board, or even do as I do for her horses if she had any. It is none of my business and its none of your MIL's business, so it may not bother your MIL if you leave. Your husband needs to grow up if he lets his mommy try to tell you where to board your horse. I feel for you and am sorry you have to deal with this. I know how stressful it is when we have to worry about our furry babies. Hugs to you. (My momma instincts have kicked in so I apologize if I have offended you. ) 
No, thank you! I need a mom right now..my mom is great, but not a horse person, and lives hours and hours away..
Your right, he said he didn't want any drama, and he said it's my horse so I can do what I want. I just always wonder how I know I'm making the right decision about something. When I think about it, of course I like having a stall, but does my horse care? Probably not, he loves it outside. And it will be better for his arthritis. These amenities are really for me, and I don't care about a heated tack room, a stall, a wash rack anymore! I just am learning to not care about those things anymore.
Well, kiddo, then I say move. I think your horse will be happier being able to move about to keep his arthritis from making him miserable. I know with my arthritis, I prefer to move around. The weather doesn't seem to bother the horses like it does us. Good luck and keep us posted on how things work out.
And this is what I would tell my daughter who lives on the Ridgeway/Montrose area in Colorado if she were in your shoes. | |
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| Go for it!!! Sounds like the ideal escape! Who cares if your mil boards there, obviously she's probably aware of what happened if she's buddies with the owner. It's truly none of her beeswax! | |
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| I love my MIL but all drama. And maybe the 52+ stall barn is just too much for us, too many people, too much drama. I don't care what other people think, I just know his family is going to grill me, so what should I say to people asking me why I'm moving? I don't want to bad mouth the place but I also don't want to have to explain myself over and over. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-09 3:49 PM
I love my MIL but all drama. And maybe the 52+ stall barn is just too much for us, too many people, too much drama. I don't care what other people think, I just know his family is going to grill me, so what should I say to people asking me why I'm moving? I don't want to bad mouth the place but I also don't want to have to explain myself over and over.
Just say it wasn't the place for you. And then if they just get really nosy and won't let up, tell them you felt like your horse needs to be outside where he can move around at will for his arthritis. Or my favorite explanation, it is " well, bless your heart it is nunya- none of your business. Said with a smile of course and maybe a little drawl thrown in for effect. | |
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| Just politely say you moved to a barn that seemed like a better fit for your horse's needs. You don't owe anyone an explanation. If someone really pushes you and you feel like you need to say something further, tell them that 24/7 turnout is exactly what the doctor ordered for your gelding's arthritis.
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| Just explain you want your horse to be pasture boarded because of his arthritis... that's all you need to say. 52 horses is a lot. You need a smaller environment..less drama! | |
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     Location: Canada | How this situation was handled by the owner was not professional but clearly you two do not see eye to eye on your horse. It's time you moved your horse. I'd suggest you start looking for a new place (like yesterday). Make a list of what you want for your horse: Additional feed, daily turnout etc. and bring that list of yours to the places you are going to see. Discuss your list and see if that is acceptable to barn owners.
Do not trash, or say how bad the last facility was, or the problems you are having. Leave those problems behind and find some new place. Then once you find a place write a letter to the facility giving them formal notice you'll be leaving. Then it's over.
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| Well I guess a little bit of an update..
Went to check out a boarding facility today, it's about 8 min from my house, has an indoor arena, and big pastures. $385.00/month.
Owner is nice, lives upstairs. Hours are 9am-8pm, but she said since some people travel to shows, etc, if you need to be there earlier to just let her know a day in advance. I told her I'm going to a clinic Dec 2, and would need to pick him up around 7:45am. She said no problem, she would leave his AM grain and hay out for me to give him. She has huge pastures, feeds round bales outside, heated stock tank outside, with automatic waterers inside. Indoor is on the smaller side, some stuff in it, a 4 wheeler for dragging, a hay ladder, etc. It's a nice barn, for some reason I wasn't 100% comfortable. It's probably ME, I get so used to one thing, and I get fixated on that. She also requires you to worm every so often. She said if I end up boarding with her, she sends his stool out to get tested, and she has to see a recording of what I most recently used for deworming.
My other option is opting for 24/7 turnout, rough board with the girl I take lessons with occasionally. No barn. Indoor 1.5 miles down the road to use for $10 a time. Pros are 24/7 turnout. Hubby doesn't want him on 24/7 turnout. He said what if it's freezing rain, and he's worried he will get frostbite, as it can be -20 and lower here in VT some winters. Hubby also doesn't love the fact that it's 35 min away, and every time I want to ride, I have to take the truck and trailer.
I don't know what to do. I need to make a decision by the 21st, as that is when I am paid up until. Either option is only until April.. | |
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| We get -40F actual air temp here and I have never had a horse with frostbite (my horses are out 24/7). Freezing rain sucks, but they're fine as long as they have plenty of feed and wind break. I'd opt for the 24/7 turnout if it were me. | |
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| want2chase3 - 2017-11-13 3:56 PM
Sounds like the $385 is a good place, but if you're not comfortable with it... you aren't comfortable where you are right now either?
I don't even know why I wasn't comfortable though..I think change makes me nervous. No place is ever going to be ideal, and I need to realize that more. | |
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-13 5:23 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-11-13 3:56 PM
Sounds like the $385 is a good place, but if you're not comfortable with it... you aren't comfortable where you are right now either?
I don't even know why I wasn't comfortable though..I think change makes me nervous. No place is ever going to be ideal, and I need to realize that more.
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     Location: OH. IO | Have you spoke to the barn owner where you are anymore? I was really hoping you could speak to her alone but that doesn't appear to be possible.if he is already struggling to keep weight on and has arthritis I would want him out of the cold somewhat,but that's just me. | |
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| Does arthritis get better in the warmer months or the colder months? I guess I'm just worried about making the right choice for him. I'm worried that he will have a hard time adjusting, ulcers, and a huge part of me feels bad that I'm shuffling him around. I wish I could tell him that I'm trying my best to give him the best care possible. | |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | emricmacy - 2017-11-09 3:49 PM
I love my MIL but all drama. And maybe the 52+ stall barn is just too much for us, too many people, too much drama. I don't care what other people think, I just know his family is going to grill me, so what should I say to people asking me why I'm moving? I don't want to bad mouth the place but I also don't want to have to explain myself over and over.
Tell them the owner yelled and cursed at you and you felt like you were no longer welcome there! She was way outta line doing that to you.
Also, if I was boarding, I'd pick the 9a-8p place. When I was boarding, I would have loved to know the barn owner was on top of keeping the other horses wormed regularly. Also, her rules are up front. Not much gray area to argue about. | |
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     Location: Canada | Your horse is not going to get frostbite. I live in Canada and where I live we have extreme cold weather (-50c) and I have yet to hear of a mature (healthy) horse getting frostbite Your only concern should be rain/sleet because that can chill a horse but run in shelters and waterproof blankets take care of that. A free feed hay will help both keep your horse warm but will put weight on him. The constant movement will help with his arthritis. No place is perfect but neither are you and neither is your horse. A place with safe pens, good feed and a place to get out of the elements is all you need. Anything above that is a bonus.
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        Location: North of the 49th Parallel | emricmacy - 2017-11-13 3:48 PM Does arthritis get better in the warmer months or the colder months? I guess I'm just worried about making the right choice for him. I'm worried that he will have a hard time adjusting, ulcers, and a huge part of me feels bad that I'm shuffling him around. I wish I could tell him that I'm trying my best to give him the best care possible. I have moved 4 times this year and my mare is doing completely fine. I have had the boarding story from absolute hell this year and I won't even go into detail but it was bad enough that I considered legal action. Your gelding will be fine on pasture if that's the way you choose. My mare is pretty used to the show barn style and she's adjusted to pasture. I'm also in Canada and I've never worried about frostbite.
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| Husband and I decided on the boarding barn 10 min from home until April, then will be moving him permanently to my trainer's barn where she has 24/7 turnout. Will be going to our current barn tomorrow to tell the owner. I know it's not 30 days, but we don't have a contract. We are paid up until the 21st, so will be leaving then.
I have a question, what will be the easiest way for my horse to transition? We have a lesson scheduled on the 21st. Should I go to the lesson as usual, then after go to our new barn, or is that too much for him? I can cancel the lesson altogether and just move him there on the 21st in the AM? I just want to make this easy for him, and to not stress him out. He's very looky at new places until he's used to them. Any advice would be appreciated.
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | I'd say it'll be harder on you, having to get everything together to go to your lesson and pack up to move. I know I'd be rushed and more stressed, making him tense and on edge. As far as the horse, it just depends on his personality. If he's easily stressed, then you might do the move separately, with no time limits so he won't be rushed and he can relax. If he is the kind who does well at overnight shows, I'd say he will be fine. Plus, going to a lesson first might tire him out a little and take the edge off.
Congrats on deciding on a new place to move to. I think the change will be good for you and I hope you have nothing but positive experiences at the new place. Post an update later and let everyone know how things are going. | |
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| Nita - 2017-11-15 5:54 PM
I'd say it'll be harder on you, having to get everything together to go to your lesson and pack up to move. I know I'd be rushed and more stressed, making him tense and on edge. As far as the horse, it just depends on his personality. If he's easily stressed, then you might do the move separately, with no time limits so he won't be rushed and he can relax. If he is the kind who does well at overnight shows, I'd say he will be fine. Plus, going to a lesson first might tire him out a little and take the edge off.
Congrats on deciding on a new place to move to. I think the change will be good for you and I hope you have nothing but positive experiences at the new place. Post an update later and let everyone know how things are going.
You make some really good points, thank you! I have only had him a few months, so have never taken him to an overnight show. I don't have a lot to move from our current place now. Our locker there is small, just have a few halters, treats, and clippers besides his tack. I'm going there tomorrow, so will pack up pretty much all of it.
He does get pretty tired after his lesson on Tuesdays, so your right that might not be a bad idea. I've taken three lessons so far with my current trainer, whom I love so far, and he finally is *almost* done spooking at the radio in her indoor..he's such a nut sometimes. VERY looky..The only thing if I move him on lesson day is that by the time we get to the new place it will be pitch black. It's pitch black here at 4:30 now, such a bummer.
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       Location: Mountains of VA | emricmacy - 2017-11-15 5:35 PM Husband and I decided on the boarding barn 10 min from home until April, then will be moving him permanently to my trainer's barn where she has 24/7 turnout. Will be going to our current barn tomorrow to tell the owner. I know it's not 30 days, but we don't have a contract. We are paid up until the 21st, so will be leaving then. I have a question, what will be the easiest way for my horse to transition? We have a lesson scheduled on the 21st. Should I go to the lesson as usual, then after go to our new barn, or is that too much for him? I can cancel the lesson altogether and just move him there on the 21st in the AM? I just want to make this easy for him, and to not stress him out. He's very looky at new places until he's used to them. Any advice would be appreciated.
First, I have been following this thread and I have to say I am so glad you are moving your horse, not only for you but for him also.
Next, going to your lesson then taking him to his new home would be the same as going to show where you expect him to pay attention while riding then adjust to being stabled somewhere new. I would view this as a great opportunity to see how he will handle the changes as this will help you once you start hauling and competing. Stress is not always a bad thing especially when it is in a training situation and that is the way I would view the lesson/move.........a training situation. | |
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| hotpaints - 2017-11-15 6:59 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-15 5:35 PM Husband and I decided on the boarding barn 10 min from home until April, then will be moving him permanently to my trainer's barn where she has 24/7 turnout. Will be going to our current barn tomorrow to tell the owner. I know it's not 30 days, but we don't have a contract. We are paid up until the 21st, so will be leaving then. I have a question, what will be the easiest way for my horse to transition? We have a lesson scheduled on the 21st. Should I go to the lesson as usual, then after go to our new barn, or is that too much for him? I can cancel the lesson altogether and just move him there on the 21st in the AM? I just want to make this easy for him, and to not stress him out. He's very looky at new places until he's used to them. Any advice would be appreciated.
First, I have been following this thread and I have to say I am so glad you are moving your horse, not only for you but for him also.
Next, going to your lesson then taking him to his new home would be the same as going to show where you expect him to pay attention while riding then adjust to being stabled somewhere new. I would view this as a great opportunity to see how he will handle the changes as this will help you once you start hauling and competing. Stress is not always a bad thing especially when it is in a training situation and that is the way I would view the lesson/move.........a training situation.
Thank you for your advice! I am going to take it 100%! I will use this opportunity for a training session and see how he does, so we can prepare for the 2018 season! | |
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| hotpaints - 2017-11-15 6:59 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-15 5:35 PM Husband and I decided on the boarding barn 10 min from home until April, then will be moving him permanently to my trainer's barn where she has 24/7 turnout. Will be going to our current barn tomorrow to tell the owner. I know it's not 30 days, but we don't have a contract. We are paid up until the 21st, so will be leaving then. I have a question, what will be the easiest way for my horse to transition? We have a lesson scheduled on the 21st. Should I go to the lesson as usual, then after go to our new barn, or is that too much for him? I can cancel the lesson altogether and just move him there on the 21st in the AM? I just want to make this easy for him, and to not stress him out. He's very looky at new places until he's used to them. Any advice would be appreciated.
First, I have been following this thread and I have to say I am so glad you are moving your horse, not only for you but for him also.
Next, going to your lesson then taking him to his new home would be the same as going to show where you expect him to pay attention while riding then adjust to being stabled somewhere new. I would view this as a great opportunity to see how he will handle the changes as this will help you once you start hauling and competing. Stress is not always a bad thing especially when it is in a training situation and that is the way I would view the lesson/move.........a training situation.
Thank you for your advice! I am going to take it 100%! I will use this opportunity for a training session and see how he does, so we can prepare for the 2018 season! | |
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We get -40F actual air temp here and I have never had a horse with frostbite (my horses are out 24/7). Freezing rain sucks, but they're fine as long as they have plenty of feed and wind break. I'd opt for the 24/7 turnout if it were me.
Ditto, I have all of mine but my stallion on 24/7 turn out and we get colder then that, last week we hit -30 with the wind chill out of the blue early... they always have big rounds infant of them, a tank with a heater and I have a section thats inclosed on 3 sides by bush and a spot with a run in. Even my 24 year old boy with stifle issues is out 24/7 because I find he gets stiff if he's in. People always comment poor horses but they prefer it; I do a horse by horse basis on blanketing but 85% of them don't need or want one. | |
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| Today was moving day..all went well. Owner of the new boarding barn had a small area set up for him outside to hang out, with hay and water but could still interact over the fence with the geldings he will be in with tomorrow. 4 to a pasture. It was almost 60 degrees here in VT today and it's been in the 20's lately so took his blanket off and he rolled twice, so I think he settled in fine so far!
I'm happy so far, obviously I would love if we had a barn at home to keep him, but that's a goal for a few years down the road! I like that this facility is smaller. Halters off in the pasture, she has the whole barn on a worming schedule, and seems to really be on top of it. Its less than 10 min from my house. And we are both on the same page, it's only until April and she's fine with that. I made sure to secure a spot with my trainer at her barn.
Old barn owner came to me today telling me that I was never really comfortable there skyways, and I never really settled in. I was going to say something but I didn't. I just thanked her and said no hard feelings. I don't do well in big crowds, I just go to the barn, say hi to anyone there, groom and ride my horse, clean up any mess that I made and leave. Maybe because I wasn't the type to hang around?
Thank you to everyone who has helped me out with advice!
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      Location: Arkansas | emricmacy - 2017-11-21 4:41 PM
Today was moving day..all went well. Owner of the new boarding barn had a small area set up for him outside to hang out, with hay and water but could still interact over the fence with the geldings he will be in with tomorrow. 4 to a pasture. It was almost 60 degrees here in VT today and it's been in the 20's lately so took his blanket off and he rolled twice, so I think he settled in fine so far!
I'm happy so far, obviously I would love if we had a barn at home to keep him, but that's a goal for a few years down the road! I like that this facility is smaller. Halters off in the pasture, she has the whole barn on a worming schedule, and seems to really be on top of it. Its less than 10 min from my house. And we are both on the same page, it's only until April and she's fine with that. I made sure to secure a spot with my trainer at her barn.
Old barn owner came to me today telling me that I was never really comfortable there skyways, and I never really settled in. I was going to say something but I didn't. I just thanked her and said no hard feelings. I don't do well in big crowds, I just go to the barn, say hi to anyone there, groom and ride my horse, clean up any mess that I made and leave. Maybe because I wasn't the type to hang around?
Thank you to everyone who has helped me out with advice!
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| Quick update, he is doing good. Went to see him this morning. Seems to be getting a long good with his other pasture buddies. Owner said he's very fidigty in his stall if she brings him in first, but once other horses are in he is fine. I brought him in his stall today and he was anxious, calling for the other horses and pacing, which is not like him. I've never noticed him in the past to act this way. Guess it will take time. I attached a picture from this AM.
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     Location: OH. IO | Nice barn:)is he on an ulcer med or preventitive? He looks pretty:) | |
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| jake16 - 2017-11-24 4:42 PM
Nice barn:)is he on an ulcer med or preventitive? He looks pretty:)
No ulcer med, vet said I could put him on aloe Vera juice, but I haven't yet. What does aloe Vera juice do? He has lost about 75 lbs since I've had him. Barn owner is putting him on sentinel senior in addition to the grain he is getting now. I know he's only been at this place for a few days but he was pretty nervous acting today away from the herd and he's never been like that. The herd seems good, I watched them for 30 min or so. 4 to a pasture.
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     Location: OH. IO | If he already has developed ulcers,IN MY OPINION,aloe vera will do nothing for him.he needs treated first. | |
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| Just a little update if anyone is following..
Had a lesson with my trainer today, 1st one since moving to the new barn, and he was amazing tonight. I'm not sure if it's a combination of a bunch of things, but he was extremely focused today, didn't spook at anything, and was just happy! He's always been good at lessons, but he would spook a lot, would shut down here and there, and just lose focus, but not tonight! She asked if I had a new horse, lol!
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      Location: Arkansas | emricmacy - 2017-11-28 6:20 PM
Just a little update if anyone is following..
Had a lesson with my trainer today, 1st one since moving to the new barn, and he was amazing tonight. I'm not sure if it's a combination of a bunch of things, but he was extremely focused today, didn't spook at anything, and was just happy! He's always been good at lessons, but he would spook a lot, would shut down here and there, and just lose focus, but not tonight! She asked if I had a new horse, lol!
Heading to a clinic with him Saturday!
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| Chandler's Mom - 2017-11-28 6:33 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-28 6:20 PM
Just a little update if anyone is following..
Had a lesson with my trainer today, 1st one since moving to the new barn, and he was amazing tonight. I'm not sure if it's a combination of a bunch of things, but he was extremely focused today, didn't spook at anything, and was just happy! He's always been good at lessons, but he would spook a lot, would shut down here and there, and just lose focus, but not tonight! She asked if I had a new horse, lol!
Heading to a clinic with him Saturday!
That's good news! How is his eating and demeanor now?
His demeanor is much calmer, he's more relaxed. My trainer and I were just shocked at the change in his behavior today. I never once saw him eat hay outside at the old barn, and now every time I go see him and he's outside, he's eating from the roundbale. There is only 4-5 to a huge pasture and the dynamics seem so much better! | |
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      Location: Arkansas | emricmacy - 2017-11-28 7:02 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2017-11-28 6:33 PM
emricmacy - 2017-11-28 6:20 PM
Just a little update if anyone is following..
Had a lesson with my trainer today, 1st one since moving to the new barn, and he was amazing tonight. I'm not sure if it's a combination of a bunch of things, but he was extremely focused today, didn't spook at anything, and was just happy! He's always been good at lessons, but he would spook a lot, would shut down here and there, and just lose focus, but not tonight! She asked if I had a new horse, lol!
Heading to a clinic with him Saturday!
That's good news! How is his eating and demeanor now?
His demeanor is much calmer, he's more relaxed. My trainer and I were just shocked at the change in his behavior today. I never once saw him eat hay outside at the old barn, and now every time I go see him and he's outside, he's eating from the roundbale. There is only 4-5 to a huge pasture and the dynamics seem so much better!
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| emricmacy - 2017-11-28 7:02 PM Chandler's Mom - 2017-11-28 6:33 PM emricmacy - 2017-11-28 6:20 PM Just a little update if anyone is following.. Had a lesson with my trainer today, 1st one since moving to the new barn, and he was amazing tonight. I'm not sure if it's a combination of a bunch of things, but he was extremely focused today, didn't spook at anything, and was just happy! He's always been good at lessons, but he would spook a lot, would shut down here and there, and just lose focus, but not tonight! She asked if I had a new horse, lol! Heading to a clinic with him Saturday! That's good news! How is his eating and demeanor now? His demeanor is much calmer, he's more relaxed. My trainer and I were just shocked at the change in his behavior today. I never once saw him eat hay outside at the old barn, and now every time I go see him and he's outside, he's eating from the roundbale. There is only 4-5 to a huge pasture and the dynamics seem so much better!
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| Thank you all! I hope he stays this good! I'm off to the barn now to meet with the farrier but here are a few recent pictures. One from last week, and one from yesterday!
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