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| So, one of my mares did some thing the vet could hardly believe. On ultrasound, there is a section of her DDFT where only 20% of her tendon is holding together. A little further down there's about 50% holding together, and down in her pastern, she has another large section separated. (I dont know what it's called, torn, a hole, missing, separated.)
Anywho - vet has warned me of the possibilities. I know my mare will never run barrels again, maybe not even be safe for her to trail ride. She's just too young to put down. She could be a pretty lawn ornament for all I care. She was already semi-retired anyway. She has been on strict 24/7 stall rest, with a secure leg wrap from hoof to hock. Icing twice/day for 30 minutes each day. We are scheduled to do PRP on Monday.
I have searched on here and read the old threads. Runners relief - I've always heard not to wrap up liniments and things. Also its quite expensive. Does it REALLY work?
Anything else?
Oh - and we thankfully have a paddock attached to her side of the barn. Her best buddy is in the next stall over, and has access to that paddock, so she can see her, and doesn't feel isolated. But, this has left my gelding all by himself. (The paddock isn't big enough for all of them, and I think he would rile her up more than she needs to be) We've considered getting a goat or a mini or a something else to keep him company. And/Or hopefully keep HER company. This leaves her best buddy the only thing sound to ride. They are very attached to one another, and while the hurt mare would quickly settle down when I would leave the farm with the other mare, she would trot up the fence and whinny. I dont need her doing any silliness in her stall if I were to take the mare away, so I'm very nervous to do so. I hope to maybe get something that she would enjoy to be around so that I could sneak the other mare away to ride, since this will be close to a year long process, I'm thinking ahead.
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | LOVE Runners Relief! I think it is worth the money especially since you are already doing so many other things PRP etc. |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | wyoming barrel racer - 2017-11-21 10:17 PM
LOVE Runners Relief! I think it is worth the money especially since you are already doing so many other things PRP etc.
I agree! |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Following to see if any info will help me in suspensory injury. Miss Mary just mentioned RR to me, so very interested. . . .
So sorry about your mare, hopefully she will return to health to be your beautiful trail horse! |
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Location: Oklahoma | I do not know where you are located, but Outlaw Equine has done some amazing rehab on bringing some horses back. I personally haven't used them but some of my friends have. There was one horse that used to belong to a friend of mine, something happened with the new owners and they was told he would never run again. (something with suspensory) and they left him there for so long and Outlaw rehabbed and he came back and he still kicks butt like before and he is bout 18 yrs old. Ive had 2 suspensories 2 different times and on same leg the first time I did the prp and the 2nd time I didn't took the same amount of time and the same rehab and so forth. I personally wouldn't do the prp again bc not much difference in healing time and money wise. Good luck! and give it lots of time!!! |
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| I 100% believe RR works, my horse was given less than a 15% chance of recovering from a torn suspensory. I did PRP, iced and magnets during the day. My vet was amazed at his rate of healing compared to his other PRP patients with similar injuries, I was the only one who had used RR. Anectodal but I think it really helped get blood flow to that area. To make it easier to wrap every night, I used a disposable diaper cut to fit, I put a spoonful of RR in the diaper, rubbed it on and wrapped with an elastic ace bandage which I used til it wore out, very easy, no gloves necessary, diaper has the plastic backing . I bought the powder RR and mixed it myself in furazone. Good luck with your mare, sorry she hurt hurt so bad :(. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-11-22 7:00 AM
I 100% believe RR works, my horse was given less than a 15% chance of recovering from a torn suspensory. I did PRP, iced and magnets during the day. My vet was amazed at his rate of healing compared to his other PRP patients with similar injuries, I was the only one who had used RR. Anectodal but I think it really helped get blood flow to that area. To make it easier to wrap every night, I used a disposable diaper cut to fit, I put a spoonful of RR in the diaper, rubbed it on and wrapped with an elastic ace bandage which I used til it wore out, very easy, no gloves necessary, diaper has the plastic backing . I bought the powder RR and mixed it myself in furazone. Good luck with your mare, sorry she hurt hurt so bad :(.
Thanks for the tips. So, I want to make sure I understand what you were doing with the runners relief. You rub it on, its like a goo, right, but what did you do with the diaper, like what was it cut to fit, the leg? Use it as the barrier between the goo and the bandage? Were you only wrapping the leg where you applied the RR?
So far I'm wrapping the entire area from hock to hoof with a no bow cotton, and held in place with 3 (due to length) standing wraps. She has one spot just below her hock, one about 6 inches down, and the spot in her pastern, so I'm thinking the RR needs to go "on top" of where the issues are in the tendon? So I'd kind of smear it all over?
Thanks again! Glad to hear your story.
Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. |
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| Runners relief and Equine Regen Plus |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom3 - 2017-11-22 6:00 AM
I 100% believe RR works, my horse was given less than a 15% chance of recovering from a torn suspensory. I did PRP, iced and magnets during the day. My vet was amazed at his rate of healing compared to his other PRP patients with similar injuries, I was the only one who had used RR. Anectodal but I think it really helped get blood flow to that area. To make it easier to wrap every night, I used a disposable diaper cut to fit, I put a spoonful of RR in the diaper, rubbed it on and wrapped with an elastic ace bandage which I used til it wore out, very easy, no gloves necessary, diaper has the plastic backing . I bought the powder RR and mixed it myself in furazone. Good luck with your mare, sorry she hurt hurt so bad :(.
How long did you do this Miss Nancy? Jake16 told me about RR and I'm very very interested. Unfortunately, Sean nor I have ever wrapped, so I don't want to do more damage than I'm already dealing with. You put med on diaper and then wrapped with ace bandage, correct? |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom3 - 2017-11-22 6:00 AM
I 100% believe RR works, my horse was given less than a 15% chance of recovering from a torn suspensory. I did PRP, iced and magnets during the day. My vet was amazed at his rate of healing compared to his other PRP patients with similar injuries, I was the only one who had used RR. Anectodal but I think it really helped get blood flow to that area. To make it easier to wrap every night, I used a disposable diaper cut to fit, I put a spoonful of RR in the diaper, rubbed it on and wrapped with an elastic ace bandage which I used til it wore out, very easy, no gloves necessary, diaper has the plastic backing . I bought the powder RR and mixed it myself in furazone. Good luck with your mare, sorry she hurt hurt so bad :(.
I just ordered the 3.5 lb RR---how long should that last? (Must be some good stuff--every place I tried to order was out and/or on backorder!) |
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| My 3.5 lb lasted 2ish months. I'm guessing it will depend on how large of an area you are treating. Great product, good luck! |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | gunner07 - 2017-11-23 7:37 AM
My 3.5 lb lasted 2ish months. I'm guessing it will depend on how large of an area you are treating. Great product, good luck!
Thank you---I have hope for a good outcome since hearing the good things from y'all about this. Thanks to Jake for putting me onto research for this!! |
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 Maine-iac
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Love to know your results when through. I went through this with my horse and only way it was discovered was through an MRI. Surgery and 10 weeks stall rest. Keep us updated and good luck! |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Mainer-racer - 2017-11-24 8:10 AM
Love to know your results when through. I went through this with my horse and only way it was discovered was through an MRI. Surgery and 10 weeks stall rest. Keep us updated and good luck!
Thank you---RR should be here next week and we'll start immediately. He's also on Platinum Osteon. Was hoping to catch PHT on sale but haven't heard from the dealer I contacted. . . . Even if Sonny ends up unable to be ridden again, I want to do all I can so he is comfortable and not in pain. |
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| Oh boy it sounds like you have multiple tears? Keeping her feet trimmed and keeping her stood up will be just as important as keeping her on stall rest, etc. |
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Location: midwest mama | ExCellR8 Equine Topical Cream made by Vet Cellect is great for these types of issues. It is a topical stem cell product. Had great results with it. |
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Elite Veteran
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| quickdraw - 2017-11-27 3:57 AM
Oh boy it sounds like you have multiple tears? Keeping her feet trimmed and keeping her stood up will be just as important as keeping her on stall rest, etc.
I do, unfortunately :( 3 that we were able to see on ultrasound the day the vet came. But she was so swollen and sensitive, it was hard to see in some areas, so there could be other smaller ones.
That day the vet had my farrier come out and put a 10 degree wedge on that foot, mostly due to the tear going down the back of her pastern and into her foot. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | OutlawsLastDance - 2017-11-27 3:29 PM quickdraw - 2017-11-27 3:57 AM Oh boy it sounds like you have multiple tears? Keeping her feet trimmed and keeping her stood up will be just as important as keeping her on stall rest, etc. I do, unfortunately : ( 3 that we were able to see on ultrasound the day the vet came. But she was so swollen and sensitive, it was hard to see in some areas, so there could be other smaller ones. That day the vet had my farrier come out and put a 10 degree wedge on that foot, mostly due to the tear going down the back of her pastern and into her foot.
Any idea what causes that-multiple tears? |
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Maine-iac
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Location: Got Lobsta? | After BooBerry's surgery they had him on a 3 degree leather wedge for 10 weeks. Now he is on 2 degree with bar shoes until next spring . He walks about like he has Frankenstein boots on! |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | mainer-racer, my superficial df injury is no longer swelling and i have been steadily increasing her amount of activity and turn out on a small lot. i hope to get another ultra sound to see how well its healing but very hopeful that she will stay sound. |
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Maine-iac
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Location: Got Lobsta? | luluwhit - 2017-11-28 2:08 PM mainer-racer, my superficial df injury is no longer swelling and i have been steadily increasing her amount of activity and turn out on a small lot. i hope to get another ultra sound to see how well its healing but very hopeful that she will stay sound.
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DDFT holes (or tears?) - any tips or advice?