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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | So I have been giving my horse previcox for 5 years now and now the vets will not prescribe it and the alternative is not available it is so back ordered at least for a month. The pharmacy I was getting it from is closed. What is a good alternative, this horse works well with previcox and is retired but has a bad stifle injury and needs it to be comfortable. |
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   Location: Arizona | I have used "No Butte" once a while ago and it worked great on my older mare. |
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    Location: North Dakota | Cur-OST Pure would be a great choice for your situation. |
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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | thank you I will try these suggestions. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | I second Cur_ost Pure or the Green depending on how much you use him or a product called Neoprofin AVF. I have a mare with kidney issues that cAnnot have NSAID's who also had fractured her patella in 2011 and then last fall tore her hind DFT, we used the Neoprofin on her at first but you are supposed to give it 3x a day for max effectiveness which was very difficult to get done with my work schedule so we went to the Pure for the first few months after the initial injury and maintaining on the green. I also use the Pure for my 17 year old gelding instead of Previcoxx when I run him, he has some low thin sole issues as well as some minor navicular changes. He doesn't wash out on the Pure like he did on the Previcoxx either.
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | so
Cur-ost Pure > than Previcox?
I have a hard time believing a vodoo threatment of herbs that cost 3 times what the proven medicine(previcox) costs can be better.
What am I missinig? |
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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | I don't know, but why do they take a medication that is working to make a horse still rideable away. I do not want her to be crippled in her old age. |
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    Location: North Dakota | 1DSoon - 2017-12-29 1:45 PM
so
Cur-ost Pure > than Previcox?
I have a hard time believing a vodoo threatment of herbs that cost 3 times what the proven medicine(previcox) costs can be better.
What am I missinig?
I think what you might be missing is you forgot to read the entire post...Orginial poster asked for something to use while previcox is not able to prescribed and equioxx is backordered.
Yes Cur-OST pure worked better for my older gelding who was having some lameness issues than previcox ever did but that isn't what she asked.
She needs something to get her by while it is back ordered... or that is how I understood it. She asked for suggestions to use in it's absence.. so I suggested something that worked for me.
Hope that cleared up what you were "missing". |
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| Is it that your vets won't prescribe it anymore, or it isn't available at all? If Equioxx is on the market, then a lot of veterinarians won't prescribe Previcox for off label use.
Previcox is made for dogs, whereas Equioxx is formulated for horses. When Equioxx was not available, vets were able to prescribe Previcox for off label use, but that is "frowned upon" now that Equioxx is available. |
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| Here is an idea that works for me. Take your dog to your vet. Or borrow someone’s dog. Tell the vet they have arthritis and want to try Prevacox. Then they can legally prescribe it AND nobody knows but you who you give it to. Dosage for dogs and horses is the same. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | FLITASTIC - 2017-12-29 3:23 PM Here is an idea that works for me. Take your dog to your vet. Or borrow someone’s dog. Tell the vet they have arthritis and want to try Prevacox. Then they can legally prescribe it AND nobody knows but you who you give it to. Dosage for dogs and horses is the same.
aaaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddddd we have a winner.
there is always a way to get what you want or need.
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| 1DSoon - 2017-12-29 12:25 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-12-29 3:23 PM Here is an idea that works for me. Take your dog to your vet. Or borrow someone’s dog. Tell the vet they have arthritis and want to try Prevacox. Then they can legally prescribe it AND nobody knows but you who you give it to. Dosage for dogs and horses is the same.
aaaaaaaannnnnnnnndddddddd we have a winner.
there is always a way to get what you want or need.
My vet just writes my dogs name on the container. If you give it to your horse that’s on you. Having said that, valleyvet has equioxx tablets in stock. |
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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | Here is an idea that works for me. Take your dog to your vet. Or borrow someone’s dog. Tell the vet they have arthritis and want to try Prevacox. Then they can legally prescribe it AND nobody knows but you who you give it to. Dosage for dogs and horses is the same.
What a good idea |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-12-29 12:23 PM
Here is an idea that works for me. Take your dog to your vet. Or borrow someone’s dog. Tell the vet they have arthritis and want to try Prevacox. Then they can legally prescribe it AND nobody knows but you who you give it to. Dosage for dogs and horses is the same.
Previcox comes in two different sized tabs (57mg and 227 mg), so the prescription could very well be different. Some vets only recommend partial tabs versus giving a full tab, so I would be leery of just starting Previcox without some form of guidance from a vet. If it's a horse that has been on it for awhile and you know the dosage, then go for it. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | 1DSoon - 2017-12-30 11:45 AM
so
Cur-ost Pure > than Previcox?
I have a hard time believing a vodoo threatment of herbs that cost 3 times what the proven medicine(previcox) costs can be better.
What am I missinig?
Well seeing as my horse has kidney stones and another friend's horse had kidney failure both from what 2 different vets felt were the use of NSAID's and neither should be on those medications ever again the voodoo treatment is what we have.  |
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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | Previcox comes in two different sized tabs (57mg and 227 mg), so the prescription could very well be different. Some vets only recommend partial tabs versus giving a full tab, so I would be leery of just starting Previcox without some form of guidance from a vet. If it's a horse that has been on it for awhile and you know the dosage, then go for it.
This horse has been on it for 5 years, I know what to give. |
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| chiquitamagic1 - 2017-12-29 1:51 PM
Previcox comes in two different sized tabs (57mg and 227 mg), so the prescription could very well be different. Some vets only recommend partial tabs versus giving a full tab, so I would be leery of just starting Previcox without some form of guidance from a vet. If it's a horse that has been on it for awhile and you know the dosage, then go for it.
This horse has been on it for 5 years, I know what to give.
I am not saying you don't, I am saying if someone reads this thread and thinks they can go to their small animal vet and get a script for Previcox for their dog and subsequently use it on their horse as they see fit without understanding dosage scales and not knowing what they're doing, then that can turn into a big problem. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | madredepeanut - 2017-12-29 4:21 PM chiquitamagic1 - 2017-12-29 1:51 PM Previcox comes in two different sized tabs (57mg and 227 mg), so the prescription could very well be different. Some vets only recommend partial tabs versus giving a full tab, so I would be leery of just starting Previcox without some form of guidance from a vet. If it's a horse that has been on it for awhile and you know the dosage, then go for it.
This horse has been on it for 5 years, I know what to give. I am not saying you don't, I am saying if someone reads this thread and thinks they can go to their small animal vet and get a script for Previcox for their dog and subsequently use it on their horse as they see fit without understanding dosage scales and not knowing what they're doing, then that can turn into a big problem. I totally agree with what madredepeanut said, I would never do this to my Vet, I have to much respect for him and sure dont want a screwed up mess on my hands if something were to happen..
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       Location: Southern Indiana | Bute! Some people are so finicky about bute but if he's retired and it helps then use it! I had a mare with bone spurs in her knee that could not be removed and she lived on bute for several years. Previcox would have probably done her wonders but it wasn't really a thing back then. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I'm in WY where vets are few and far between. I use 2 in the area (1 an hour south, 1 an hour north) so if one can't get me the meds, I will try the other one. One is usually cheaper on meds so I go there first. But I respect both vets and they respect me and will even go out of their way to help me out. That good relationship can mean a lot if you really need it someday. So maybe try a diff vet for the Previcox. If it is unavailable at the moment might be SOL though. |
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   Location: W. Pa. | The Dosage of Previcox is absolutely not the same for horses as it is for dogs. Horses metabolize it differently. Do not use the dosage for your horse the same as you would for your dog! Horses require a much smaller dosage than dogs do. |
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      Location: In my own world | TheDutchMan01 - 2017-12-29 8:05 PM Bute! Some people are so finicky about bute but if he's retired and it helps then use it! I had a mare with bone spurs in her knee that could not be removed and she lived on bute for several years. Previcox would have probably done her wonders but it wasn't really a thing back then.
Some cant use bute for various reasons. My gelding is ulcer prone. No bute for us |
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       Location: Texas! | Two Boots - 2017-12-31 8:34 PM
The Dosage of Previcox is absolutely not the same for horses as it is for dogs. Horses metabolize it differently. Do not use the dosage for your horse the same as you would for your dog! Horses require a much smaller dosage than dogs do.
There are two sizes of previcoxx the 57mg tablets are the same mg as equioxx. |
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     Location: Oklahoma | I maybe wrong but I thought meds was made from Herbs? I know that synthetic stuff been added but it has to start somewhere. I think a lot has to do with the combo of herbs and same with meds can work with ea other or against ea other. Good luck OP I know I got a little off track :)) |
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| run n rate - 2017-12-29 3:24 PM
1DSoon - 2017-12-30 11:45 AM
so
Cur-ost Pure > than Previcox?
I have a hard time believing a vodoo threatment of herbs that cost 3 times what the proven medicine(previcox) costs can be better.
What am I missinig?
Well seeing as my horse has kidney stones and another friend's horse had kidney failure both from what 2 different vets felt were the use of NSAID's and neither should be on those medications ever again the voodoo treatment is what we have. 
Previcox can cause kidney problems. Read the insert that has contraindications and warnings. I personally do not use Curost. I use Herbal Respond from Dac. It is all natural. And neither Curost or Herbal Respond are voodoo treatments. Lol |
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  Location: Conroe, TX 77304 | The pharmacy I was using to get the previcox is closed down, and my vet will not give previcox anymore, although he is the one I got the script from this last time. Equinox is backordered and is not available. Really is a bunch of bull. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Equioxx and Previcox are trade names for the same drug, “firocoxib”.
The dose for horses is 57mg/day. Don’t give 227 mg tabs to your horse! If you have the 227 mg tabs, get a pill cutter and quarter them. The “horse version”, Equioxx, costs at least twice as much.
My advice is to get a script for your big dog (227mg) and get a pill cutter from any pharmacy. They are cheap. |
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bear - 2018-01-02 9:15 PM Equioxx and Previcox are trade names for the same drug, “firocoxib”. The dose for horses is 57mg/day. Don’t give 227 mg tabs to your horse! If you have the 227 mg tabs, get a pill cutter and quarter them. The “horse version”, Equioxx, costs at least twice as much. My advice is to get a script for your big dog (227mg) and get a pill cutter from any pharmacy. They are cheap.
my pill cutter is the five little piggies on each hand.
they break easy peasy |
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