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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I debated whether or not to start a thread about these but .......
BEWARE: Anyone else seeing this all over their social media the last couple days? Basically, you put $100 into this scheme through paypal and you get more people to join and they put $100 in and once all of the "levels" get filled the person in the middle level gets all of the combined total ($800) and they fall off the spot and everyone moves up one level, the more people who join the faster you move up to get the $800. THIS is a perfect example of a pyramid scheme!!! AND is ILLEGAL in every state ..... there will ALWAYS be a loser in this "money scheme" when people are no longer entering it !!!!
I can NOT believe the number of people SUCKING their family and friends in only to make their money.....wake up folks...if you are at the bottom getting in you are padding their pockets and you will LOSE money! Additionally, one person has posted that the scheme has been reported to the FCC....
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | 1DSoon - 2018-01-08 8:40 AM you seem pretty worked up over this deal.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | If someone doesn’t have enough sense to recognize things like this, then they deserve what they get.
Pyramid schemes and multilevel marketing schemes shouldn’t be that hard to recognize.
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Location: Georgia | I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios. |
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| Wow... can't believe people would actually fall for something like that. I can't stand pyramid schemes... I'm always leary when a friend or family member joins up on one of those companies and try to get me to try their products. Like thrive or advocare, I was recently hit up by a friend I hadn't spoken to in ages sending me tons of information and samples of some juice pills and powders... just rubs me wrong and leaves a bad taste in my mouth... (not the pills or powders lol) just the situation. No thanks... |
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| mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing. |
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Location: MN | I almost got sucked into this because, you know, $700 bucks sounds great! Sure some people made their money in 3 hours or so. Out of curiosity I stayed in the group I was added to....no one is joining now. Quite a few people have been jipped and wont get their $700. I knew it was illegal from the get go, which was the main reason why I kept my nose out of it. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 9:53 AM
mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing.
Agree, no comparison. The big thing with pyramid schemes is they focus on recruitment of people to funnel money to the few people at the top who get paid but they give no return at all. 4D jackpots and gambling actually deliver something: recreation or entertainment. People know going in there is a pretty good chance they won't win their money back (unless they just have that great consistent 1D horse) but still expect to have a good time. A pyramid scheme makes false promises to the people joining up, attempting to guarantee that everyone is going to make big money when only a very few will. It is this misrepresentation of the situation and the fact that people get cheated out of money (as versus volunteering it for the chance to win and knowing you will still have a good time) that makes it much different, unethical, and illegal.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | My question is who is incontrol of the money and who pays it out? I hate these Pyramid Schemes and they are a schemes, years ago a group of ladys that I knew got into this and you had to pay out 3000.00 and you would get back 5000.00 and when who ever was the lucky one to move up they called it your birthday, they bugged me and bugged me for weeks to do this I just very nicey said NO thank you, one person even got really pushy, that ended my friendship with her, lol.. |
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Location: Bennett, CO | oija - 2018-01-08 9:38 AM rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 9:53 AM mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios. No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing. Agree, no comparison. The big thing with pyramid schemes is they focus on recruitment of people to funnel money to the few people at the top who get paid but they give no return at all. 4D jackpots and gambling actually deliver something: recreation or entertainment. People know going in there is a pretty good chance they won't win their money back (unless they just have that great consistent 1D horse ) but still expect to have a good time. A pyramid scheme makes false promises to the people joining up, attempting to guarantee that everyone is going to make big money when only a very few will. It is this misrepresentation of the situation and the fact that people get cheated out of money (as versus volunteering it for the chance to win and knowing you will still have a good time ) that makes it much different, unethical, and illegal.
Perfectly Said- In addition to the points made - Barrel races give the same chance of winning to all who enter, reguardless of wether you were the first or last to enter I just cant imagine being OK with KNOWING that Im only profiting off of someone getting duped. |
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Location: Georgia | rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 10:53 AM
mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing.
My point is that it is a gamble just like you are gambling your entry fees for a lucky time or clean run. Not saying it is the exact same thing on every level but both are a gamble. Not a scam |
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Location: North Texas | mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM
I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
Define ethics. Also define morality please. In regards to your views on a Ponzi or Pyramid Scam. |
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| mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 11:37 AM
rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 10:53 AM
mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing.
My point is that it is a gamble just like you are gambling your entry fees for a lucky time or clean run. Not saying it is the exact same thing on every level but both are a gamble. Not a scam
No, it is not presented as a gamble, it is presented as pay in $100 and your return will be $700. It is a new chapter of an unethical pyramid scheme that is dependent on participants keeping it going but always dies out with very few receiving the promised benefits. I guarantee this one won’t be around but a week or two. This is nothing new and if it really worked there would not need to be new versions. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 12:37 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 10:53 AM mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios. No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing. My point is that it is a gamble just like you are gambling your entry fees for a lucky time or clean run. Not saying it is the exact same thing on every level but both are a gamble. Not a scam
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | In the New America...It's not a scam if you are the one that didn't get screwed. I wonder how many people that win have given back the $100.00 that they ended up screwing their friends out of? LOL |
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| Nevertooold - 2018-01-08 12:17 PM In the New America...It's not a scam if you are the one that didn't get screwed. I wonder how many people that win have given back the $100.00 that they ended up screwing their friends out of? LOL
Right! If your board does not fill up do they refund or keep what was sent to them?? Great way to treat family and friends. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The fact that this topic actually generates a debate tells me all I need to know about the IQ of an average human being. This is why fat burning pills, essential oils, and vibrating plates are selling so well. |
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Location: Texas | That deal was going around 25 years ago at the hospital where I worked. It had the administration all up in arms. More than a few people lost their $100. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | NJJ - 2018-01-08 8:28 AM I debated whether or not to start a thread about these but .......
BEWARE: Anyone else seeing this all over their social media the last couple days? Basically, you put $100 into this scheme through paypal and you get more people to join and they put $100 in and once all of the "levels" get filled the person in the middle level gets all of the combined total ($800) and they fall off the spot and everyone moves up one level, the more people who join the faster you move up to get the $800. THIS is a perfect example of a pyramid scheme!!! AND is ILLEGAL in every state ..... there will ALWAYS be a loser in this "money scheme" when people are no longer entering it !!!!
I can NOT believe the number of people SUCKING their family and friends in only to make their money.....wake up folks...if you are at the bottom getting in you are padding their pockets and you will LOSE money! Additionally, one person has posted that the scheme has been reported to the FCC....
I've been seeing this dang near everyday...by one girl in particular. There is no way I would fall into something like this. I can find alot better things to spend $100 on. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 11:37 AM rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 10:53 AM mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios. No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing. My point is that it is a gamble just like you are gambling your entry fees for a lucky time or clean run. Not saying it is the exact same thing on every level but both are a gamble. Not a scam
If you still insist that it is NOT a scam please read the article below ..... ANY pyramid scheme is a "scam" and has legal repercussions ..... I read on FB that a few people have reported this scam (and some of those participating) to the FCC ...... no matter if it is $5 or $5000 ..... it is illegal and a scam ......
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/two-guilford-women-sentenced-federal-prison-overseeing-gifting-tables-pyramid-scheme
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Location: nj | Old enough to have seen this many times before.. seems to be a trend that comes around when you have a new 'crop' young enough to fall for it. It is not a gamble it is a scam. Don't fall for it and don't push it to the people who don't know better or you should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I figured this was a scam. And people are stupid enough to do it
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Its a SCAM and theres so many Gullible people out there that dont think it is and fall for it.. |
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| mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 10:37 AM
rodeomom3 - 2018-01-08 10:53 AM
mandita8907 - 2018-01-08 9:37 AM I mean its not a scam.. its a form of gambling. Just like going to a barrel race and gambling your money on a 4d set up lol. Yes it is illegal but you DO NOT have to participate. So dont poop in others cheerios.
No comparison, a 4D is like gambling or a lottery, if your time is the lucky time, has no dependency on others continuing to participate. This is a pyramid scam that falls apart as soon as participants quit contributing.
My point is that it is a gamble just like you are gambling your entry fees for a lucky time or clean run. Not saying it is the exact same thing on every level but both are a gamble. Not a scam
No, it’s not even CLOSE to being the same. Google Ponzi Scheme. That is what this thing is and it’s HIGHLY illegal. It was a scam in 1920 and it’s still a scam in 2018.
ETA- it has now hit the news channels in Montana that it’s a scam. So while YOU may not think it is...the Federal Government clearly thinks otherwise. Good luck fighting them and telling them it’s not a scam, lol!
I’ll even save you time:
http://www.jobsnhire.com/articles/49386/20161127/latest-facebook-sc...
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| Bear - 2018-01-08 12:35 PM
The fact that this topic actually generates a debate tells me all I need to know about the IQ of an average human being. This is why fat burning pills, essential oils, and vibrating plates are selling so well.
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Location: Florida | There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. |
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| Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM
There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't.
Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha! |
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Location: SE KS | Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. you are wrong on Mary kay - it is not a scheme - when you become a consultant you get the same discount as the person who sponsored you into the company - you can build your own customer base - you can pass your recruiter and win a car or become a director before she does if you work harder than she does, and when you come into the company you have product to sale - it is a direct selling company when i come into the company I have product to sale. also when you come in it is your choice at which level of product inventory you wish to start with or no product inventory at all - your choice. educate yourself before you slam a good company.
Griz - for your info - I "earned" (worked for it and my team, but they in turn could earn one to, and I helped them achieve whatever goal they set out to do) 3 cars with mary Kay (there was no winning a car) so yes, it does happen - and yes I worked my business - you can go as fast as you wish or have a small circle of friends and customers that you wish to take care of. We had a lady in my unit that alls he wanted to do whas take care of her few customers and friends and she was happy - so you can make this business what you want.
It makes me angry when people speak and think they know when they don't know how any of this works. I meet the lady her self Mary Kay - and she was a was very kind loving woman who believed that every woman should not be held down by what a man thought her place was at home or in the glass ceiling belief. As she raised 3 boys on her own - after her husband left her she did all the training of men where she worked, she trained them, and they got the promotions - so she created Mary Kay. I take her philisophy pretty seriously and always honored how she impressed upon how we were to do our business. Granted - ther are some bad apples in Mary kay -
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Dinero10 - 2018-01-09 9:41 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. you are wrong on Mary kay - it is not a scheme - when you become a consultant you get the same discount as the person who sponsored you into the company - you can build your own customer base - you can pass your recruiter and win a car or become a director before she does if you work harder than she does, and when you come into the company you have product to sale - it is a direct selling company when i come into the company I have product to sale. also when you come in it is your choice at which level of product inventory you wish to start with or no product inventory at all - your choice. educate yourself before you slam a good company.
Griz - for your info - I "earned" (worked for it and my team, but they in turn could earn one to, and I helped them achieve whatever goal they set out to do) 3 cars with mary Kay (there was no winning a car) so yes, it does happen - and yes I worked my business - you can go as fast as you wish or have a small circle of friends and customers that you wish to take care of. We had a lady in my unit that alls he wanted to do whas take care of her few customers and friends and she was happy - so you can make this business what you want.
It makes me angry when people speak and think they know when they don't know how any of this works. I meet the lady her self Mary Kay - and she was a was very kind loving woman who believed that every woman should not be held down by what a man thought her place was at home or in the glass ceiling belief. As she raised 3 boys on her own - after her husband left her she did all the training of men where she worked, she trained them, and they got the promotions - so she created Mary Kay. I take her philisophy pretty seriously and always honored how she impressed upon how we were to do our business. Granted - ther are some bad apples in Mary kay -
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Location: Tex. Panhandle | Dinero10 - 2018-01-09 8:41 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. you are wrong on Mary kay - it is not a scheme - when you become a consultant you get the same discount as the person who sponsored you into the company - you can build your own customer base - you can pass your recruiter and win a car or become a director before she does if you work harder than she does, and when you come into the company you have product to sale - it is a direct selling company when i come into the company I have product to sale. also when you come in it is your choice at which level of product inventory you wish to start with or no product inventory at all - your choice. educate yourself before you slam a good company.
Griz - for your info - I "earned" (worked for it and my team, but they in turn could earn one to, and I helped them achieve whatever goal they set out to do) 3 cars with mary Kay (there was no winning a car) so yes, it does happen - and yes I worked my business - you can go as fast as you wish or have a small circle of friends and customers that you wish to take care of. We had a lady in my unit that alls he wanted to do whas take care of her few customers and friends and she was happy - so you can make this business what you want.
It makes me angry when people speak and think they know when they don't know how any of this works. I meet the lady her self Mary Kay - and she was a was very kind loving woman who believed that every woman should not be held down by what a man thought her place was at home or in the glass ceiling belief. As she raised 3 boys on her own - after her husband left her she did all the training of men where she worked, she trained them, and they got the promotions - so she created Mary Kay. I take her philisophy pretty seriously and always honored how she impressed upon how we were to do our business. Granted - ther are some bad apples in Mary kay -
For those of you doubters, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but just because it's not a path you choose to venture down does NOT make it a schemm. Any more then sales people (cars/bridal/reality) earning commissions off of what they sale.
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Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM
There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't.
Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha!
You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don’t think pyramid schemes should be outlawed.
You can’t legislate intelligence and good judgement.
People need to suffer the consequences of thier stupidity. That’s the best way to get rid of pyramid schemes. If you squander $100 because you allowed yourself to get sucked in to some scheme and you learn from it, you are using your brain. If you don’t learn from it, you are already being punished. The world is full of businesses that depend on stupidity. We’ve (hopefully) all been to that party.
Those who refuse to learn from their stupidity will remain stupid.
At least they contribute to the economy. We need dumb people.
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Location: SE KS | no 1dsoon - it isn't - direct selling company - you come - you sell the same product and the same discount that I would sell it at. IF I sponsor you in and you sell more than me - yeah for you - you can pass me at any time and fo up the ladder and surpass me if that is what you want. you are always so negative.
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Location: IL | I keep seeing this new "whitening toothpaste" that everyone is selling on Facebook, is that another one of those schemes? First off I'm not paying $20 for toothpaste, but everyone is so hush, hust on who even makes it. Trying to get everyone to sell it too. |
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Location: SE KS | yes I worked - it wasn't I won a car - I worked and earned it.... didn't have a car payment for 12 years. The last one I took cash compensation for
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| Vickie - 2018-01-08 6:37 PM
There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't.
The ones that have been around forever are not pyramids because you DO have the ability to pass your up line. They wouldn’t have been in business for the past 40 years if they were pyramids. |
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Location: SE KS | SKM - 2018-01-09 2:29 PM Vickie - 2018-01-08 6:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. The ones that have been around forever are not pyramids because you DO have the ability to pass your up line. They wouldn’t have been in business for the past 40 years if they were pyramids.
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| want2chase3 - 2018-01-09 12:10 PM
I was curious (and bored) in the Dr's office waiting room so I googled... I read an article saying that there is only 1300 pink MK caddies in the United States "currently " on the road. Man, those ladies must hustle their rearends off to get those cars!
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Bernard Madoff... Ponzi Scheme...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff
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| streakysox - 2018-01-09 9:33 AM
Griz - 2018-01-09 5:51 AM
Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM
There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't.
Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha!
You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago.
I guess I MUST "live under a rock" I don't see ANY of the pepto-colored cars here!
I actually used to USE Mary Kaye, I have nothing against the products for all you folks who got your panties in a BIG WAD. I just don't like the PUSHY-PUSHY sales tactics of MANY of their members. I liked the product, wanted to BUY the product but didn't want to SELL the product, I have a JOB and sales is NOT IT.
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There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't.
Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha!
You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago.
I guess I MUST "live under a rock" I don't see ANY of the pepto-colored cars here!
I actually used to USE Mary Kaye, I have nothing against the products for all you folks who got your panties in a BIG WAD. I just don't like the PUSHY-PUSHY sales tactics of MANY of their members. I liked the product, wanted to BUY the product but didn't want to SELL the product, I have a JOB and sales is NOT IT.
I guess you really haven't seen the MK cars because they are not Pepto colored. They are a pretty shade of pink. I think those ladies are pretty proud of those cars. Need to get out more. they don't make any money if they don't sell so they will sell you their house if they get the chance. Exactly why they drive the pink cars. They work. |
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Location: SE KS | Griz - 2018-01-10 6:06 AM streakysox - 2018-01-09 9:33 AM Griz - 2018-01-09 5:51 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha! You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago. I guess I MUST "live under a rock" I don't see ANY of the pepto-colored cars here! I actually used to USE Mary Kaye, I have nothing against the products for all you folks who got your panties in a BIG WAD. I just don't like the PUSHY-PUSHY sales tactics of MANY of their members. I liked the product, wanted to BUY the product but didn't want to SELL the product, I have a JOB and sales is NOT IT.
Griz - my panties weren't in "a Wad" -as i said earlier - I honored her principles in selling and sharing. I do agree there are some bad apples (consultants)
and it does turn people off. I am not or try not to be pushy - if you want to just use - great, I will happily sale to you. no pressure. never pressured
anyone... sorry you had bad experience - I know many that do, from pushy MK ladies. Makes me crazy. :)
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Griz - 2018-01-10 6:06 AM streakysox - 2018-01-09 9:33 AM Griz - 2018-01-09 5:51 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha! You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago. I guess I MUST "live under a rock" I don't see ANY of the pepto-colored cars here! I actually used to USE Mary Kaye, I have nothing against the products for all you folks who got your panties in a BIG WAD. I just don't like the PUSHY-PUSHY sales tactics of MANY of their members. I liked the product, wanted to BUY the product but didn't want to SELL the product, I have a JOB and sales is NOT IT.
Mk and those who sell a "product" are not a true pyramid scheme....they are labeled as multi marketing ..... they are ACTUALLY selling a product ..... Of course, you are going to have "pushy" salespeople in ANY "product" sales. You get that when you walk into a car dealership and get a "pushy" salesman who makes his money with a commission of a sale. The true "scammers" are those whose only interest is to sign people up or entice people to put money into a scheme where THEY are the beneficiary . Those people don't "SELL" ..... they SCAM their family and friends.
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| While I believe there are some "pyramid" schemes out there, there are some good companies whose distributors sell products and/or services on commission. To me, these are not any different than someone selling a horse on commission or a sales rep making a commission on the products she sells. I've been asked to join several and always declined because I don't want be involved with any thing that is not ethical or legal. My reputation means too much to me for that.
We recently started a program that supports weight loss and healthy living. I teach Chemistry and Physics and I am a natural born skeptic about most anything. The only reason I joined the program was because I saw first hand what the program did for my friends, my husband, and myself. This program has worked for people when nothing else has and seeing people happy about their progress is priceless. My father in law is a diabetic and can't really exercise much and he has been able to get rid of 20 unhealthy pounds which is huge for our family! We want him around to see his grandson grow up! I'm a coach by nature and I enjoy coaching people to their goals both inside and outside of the arena. I do make a commission off the products I sell but I also EARN that money in the coaching that I offer in the program so its just like any sales position but better because I really can help people.
Now was I giving anyone my 100 bucks....no way!
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| Dinero10 - 2018-01-10 8:43 AM
Griz - 2018-01-10 6:06 AM streakysox - 2018-01-09 9:33 AM Griz - 2018-01-09 5:51 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha! You must live under a rock. You haven't seen all those pretty pink Caddies running around town? I can assure you that none of those people got them from sitting around waiting to get rich in the comfort of their homes. When I see one of the Caddies, my first thought is "I wonder how many hours they had to put in to get THAT???" Mary Kay has been around for over 50 years. If it was a pyramid scheme it would have died off years ago. I guess I MUST "live under a rock" I don't see ANY of the pepto-colored cars here! I actually used to USE Mary Kaye, I have nothing against the products for all you folks who got your panties in a BIG WAD. I just don't like the PUSHY-PUSHY sales tactics of MANY of their members. I liked the product, wanted to BUY the product but didn't want to SELL the product, I have a JOB and sales is NOT IT.
and it does turn people off. I am not or try not to be pushy - if you want to just use - great, I will happily sale to you. no pressure. never pressured
anyone... sorry you had bad experience - I know many that do, from pushy MK ladies. Makes me crazy. :)
Thanks Dinero - yes, I had to "fire" my hair dresser because she just would not let up! I just wanted to buy and use the product! Heck, I myself am a "marketing partner" for Monet hair care but the only reason I did it was to get the products cheaper! Sales just isn't for me and my hat's off to you guys who are good at it and not pushy!  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NextLevel - 2018-01-10 11:33 AM
While I believe there are some "pyramid" schemes out there, there are some good companies whose distributors sell products and/or services on commission. To me, these are not any different than someone selling a horse on commission or a sales rep making a commission on the products she sells. I've been asked to join several and always declined because I don't want be involved with any thing that is not ethical or legal. My reputation means too much to me for that.
We recently started a program that supports weight loss and healthy living. I teach Chemistry and Physics and I am a natural born skeptic about most anything. The only reason I joined the program was because I saw first hand what the program did for my friends, my husband, and myself. This program has worked for people when nothing else has and seeing people happy about their progress is priceless. My father in law is a diabetic and can't really exercise much and he has been able to get rid of 20 unhealthy pounds which is huge for our family! We want him around to see his grandson grow up! I'm a coach by nature and I enjoy coaching people to their goals both inside and outside of the arena. I do make a commission off the products I sell but I also EARN that money in the coaching that I offer in the program so its just like any sales position but better because I really can help people.
Now was I giving anyone my 100 bucks....no way!
Good for you!
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bear - 2018-01-10 2:16 PM NextLevel - 2018-01-10 11:33 AM While I believe there are some "pyramid" schemes out there, there are some good companies whose distributors sell products and/or services on commission. To me, these are not any different than someone selling a horse on commission or a sales rep making a commission on the products she sells. I've been asked to join several and always declined because I don't want be involved with any thing that is not ethical or legal. My reputation means too much to me for that. We recently started a program that supports weight loss and healthy living. I teach Chemistry and Physics and I am a natural born skeptic about most anything. The only reason I joined the program was because I saw first hand what the program did for my friends, my husband, and myself. This program has worked for people when nothing else has and seeing people happy about their progress is priceless. My father in law is a diabetic and can't really exercise much and he has been able to get rid of 20 unhealthy pounds which is huge for our family! We want him around to see his grandson grow up! I'm a coach by nature and I enjoy coaching people to their goals both inside and outside of the arena. I do make a commission off the products I sell but I also EARN that money in the coaching that I offer in the program so its just like any sales position but better because I really can help people. Now was I giving anyone my 100 bucks....no way! Good for you! I don’t see anything in what you describe as anything remotely similar to a pyramid or MLM scheme.
based on her user name she's thriving and is very much involved in MLM
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| Actually, my name is NEXT LEVEL because I own and operate Next Level Goat Tying Clinics. I put on goat tying clinics, offer instructional videos (for free on my YouTube channel and for purchase on my website...that's www.nextlevelgoattying.net by the way), and coach girls all over the country.
In the last 4 years we've won 3 NHSRA championships, 2 NJHSRA reserve national championships, 2 CNFR reserve championships, and multiple state and regional championships all over the country. The last year, in addition to counting the NHSRA Champion as one of my students, I coached 5 others in the top 15 at the NHSRA finals. At the NJHSFR I had the reserve national champion and 4 of the top 6 girls that I coached.
So the NEXT LEVEL I'm talking about is about training some amazing young women to be the faster than they were before they came to me, bringing more publicity for these young women to the rodeo community, and developing more opportunities for these talented young women.
I only started with my other program about around Thanksgiving but thanks to a degree in Biology and a tendency to be a real nerd that reads too much, I have a pretty good handle on the topic. I am enjoying reading new research and learning about new things though! |
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| well that definitely sounded too good to be true as I saw it on fb too. Yes a pyramid scheme. but with that you end up with nothing. so It is not the same as MLM. MLM are set up in a "pyramid" type of system but are far from a scheme. With a mlm you actually do make money and get a product with real customer service and a real company |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | merdth6 - 2018-01-09 1:57 PM I keep seeing this new "whitening toothpaste" that everyone is selling on Facebook, is that another one of those schemes? First off I'm not paying $20 for toothpaste, but everyone is so hush, hust on who even makes it. Trying to get everyone to sell it too.
My MIL "sold" this toothpaste. It works fast and really well for sure but it doesn't last very long LOL I got a tube for free from her. She was hoping I would like it and sell it with her. I took my free toothpaste and bolted LOL I haven't "reordered" with her.   
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Another state investigating it.....have heard through some posts that PayPal is now investigating and "could" reverse money.......Wouldn't THAT be funny ..... LOL
http://www.ktvq.com/story/37216921/montanans-warned-about-pyramid-scheme-on-facebook
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Location: TEXAS | Griz - 2018-01-09 5:51 AM Vickie - 2018-01-08 7:37 PM There are lots of work from home companies that are basically pyramid schemes. Mary Kay is probably the worst. but there are lots more. Don't fall for anything that seems too good to be true, because it isn't. Mary Kaye, Amway, THRIVE, Primerica - ALL pyramids "guaranteed" to make you rich quick all from the comfort of home! It's funny, you hear ALL about how someone is JUST about to get a FREE car from their successes - then you NEVER see it! Ha!
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