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| I'm looking at two stallions, one is Corona Cartel x Ima Ramblin Girl, First Down Dash. The other is A Streak of Fling x Short Penny, Dash Ta Fame (he's a full brother to Bling). Crossing with a cowbred mare - she is Peppy San Badger, Driftwood, Doc Bar, Freckles Playboy bred. What would you prefer and why? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | if the those were the only two stallions in the world left to breed to it would be the second one.
I've been around him in person and he's pretty cool. Has some talent as well. I would now be a little concerned about his connections but he's a pretty nice indvidual
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| What do you mean by connections? |
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Location: Wisconsin | I would also want to know the results of their 5 panel test. |
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| My mare is 5 panel N/N and both of the stallions are as well :) |
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Location: in the ozone | Just because they are n/n on 5 Panel does not take into consideration of PSSM2 variants. I would steer clear of the 2nd one due to suspects in that breeding. But I would also not breed a PSB mare w/o testing her first too. |
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| I would breed to the 2nd. I think we all have reservations about the PSSM2 but of those choices, the 2nd. |
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Location: Alabama | Call AQHA and make sure foals from each stallion are able to be registered.
That said, I would pick the second cross.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Sockittoemred - 2018-02-01 1:55 PM Call AQHA and make sure foals from each stallion are able to be registered. That said, I would pick the second cross.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I am going to be the odd one out here and go for the first one. I own his dam's 1/2 brother and I love him to bits, his babies can run or turn too! Corona Cartel doesn't bother me either, where some others its a No No. |
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Location: Duvall, WA | Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | ndiehl - 2018-02-02 9:17 AM I am going to be the odd one out here and go for the first one. I own his dam's 1/2 brother and I love him to bits, his babies can run or turn too! Corona Cartel doesn't bother me either, where some others its a No No.
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| NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM
Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses?
What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Which full brother to Bling? There are 2 I thought. One is always with terrible pictures. I imagine the horse looks fine but the angles are always way off. I would go with the CC. I like the bloodline myself. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | pb2017 - 2018-02-05 7:38 PM NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses.
I gallop in the mornings at the local racetrack and all the CC horses ive came across are HOT HOT HOT and crazy!! Now i know these are racehorses, but my goodness. They have definitley made me want to keep clear of any CC bred horses. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-02-06 8:09 AM pb2017 - 2018-02-05 7:38 PM NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses.
And could be the way they were started. I've been around several and haven't seen this problem. |
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Location: MN | total performance - 2018-02-06 8:14 AM Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-02-06 8:09 AM pb2017 - 2018-02-05 7:38 PM NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses.
And I've been around several who have been complete dead heads but when it came time to run, they could flat out fly and turn. I have one in my pasture right now (yearling) and he is so level headed. Ive been so impressed with him and his attitude towards everything! |
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| In my experience CC horses are incredibly smart and not what I consider hot. Mine are CC on top, cowbred on the bottom. Great horses with good bone and feet. To the OP, I'd breed to the CC stud. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | total performance - 2018-02-06 7:14 AM Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-02-06 8:09 AM pb2017 - 2018-02-05 7:38 PM NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses.
and fed, stalled and well, trained to be a race horse. If you got one as a baby, ranched on it and road it and trained it like any other I imagine you would get a different story. The info I got from anyone that trained direct get is they are so smart and kind.
I started plenty of cutting bred and as a majority, they were fairly reactive. I think what one person thinks is quick and reactive, is often mistaken for hot. Hot is often more a matter of training. For example run run run a horse everywhere and then expect it to stand in one spot right after. That is training. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-06 9:49 AM
total performance - 2018-02-06 7:14 AM Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-02-06 8:09 AM pb2017 - 2018-02-05 7:38 PM NipntuckLR - 2018-02-02 11:08 AM Can I ask what it is people don't like about Corona Cartels as barrel horses? What I have read is that Corona Cartel horses are really hot and tend to have fragile minds. But that's just heresay, I've never been around CC horses. That's why I'm asking for bloodline advice lol. I think that maybe my cowbred mare's bloodline might even out those traits in the CC horses.
I started plenty of cutting bred and as a majority, they were fairly reactive. I think what one person thinks is quick and reactive, is often mistaken for hot. Hot is often more a matter of training. For example run run run a horse everywhere and then expect it to stand in one spot right after. That is training.
CC usually are ones with sense even all fed up, fat, swam, sassy and ready for yearling sales. Even older race horses that know the drill with CC up close or own get are much calmer and smarter than other lines. CC can be sneaky smart, they will remember your mistakes and sure keep an exercise rider on their toes. I have a few bruises still from my last ride with my fav Conronas Leaving You colt hahaha
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | What are you looking to ad to your mare?
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| I have raised 2 grand get of c.f. the stud have not been advertised and when I inquired say a horse on the out of this stallion advertised for 55k. Fast forward 1st baby seemed nice and got kinda lucky the lady who owned the stallion gave me a second breeding. The first baby was always quiet, but very smart looked around had a time finding a knowledgeable trainer, send her to a cutting horse trainer went to pick her up and had so.e drama in my life ANF could not check on her after about 1st 60days. Fast forward picked her up after about 5 months they brought her out to me and I told them I need to see her ride they where having a little jackpot that day I thought they would ride her when they where done but the came and got me as the girl was riding her the trainer was at a show. Not as broke as I and hope she asked me did I want to ride her. I said yes, she went to get off and I walked to my mare and jerked back and almost drug the girl. I did get on her and could tell she was very nervous she I had to get them to hold her to get off. When I brought the mare to them was her first time on the trailer and away from home she was as quiet as any horse I had hauled dozens of times, she acted like she had been doing this all her life. So I brought her home and I got a Wal-Mart bag on a carrot stick and she like to drug me and just kept doing ground work for about 3 weeks and got a little ace and used it a couple of times as I ride by myself never had any problem. About a month latter a trainer just moved here from Arizona he was an assistant for a very well know trainer from Arizona very knowledgeable person was giving lessons he really liked my mare and asked him would he take my filly and he has about 15 rides on her says she is really very smart and talented. Made me happy for a Reiner not knowing me or my Colts from Adam. They are out of.my mare whose mother was a barrel horse and my mare has 4 full brothers and sisters that are barrel horses. But these Colts are way quieter than mom and my older mare can drag her but. But they are smart. My 2 year old had never really been tied put her on the trailer and tied her but fixed it with a hay string so if she got in a jam it would give told Andre he says she ties now never pulled back. He also like mares and said she has a nice trot. If is not raining will see her sat or the next sat. I can say he has said how nice she is about a dozen times. Makes me a proud momma. My older mare she is now 5 put her in the isle way drop the rope and groom her and saddle her walk to the trailer stays put. Can tell you how crazy I am about her. She got started late and she did something last summer and got sore in her back on one side just tired her our until late last fall and she came right back she wants to be light. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-05 7:51 PM
Which full brother to Bling? There are 2 I thought. One is always with terrible pictures. I imagine the horse looks fine but the angles are always way off. I would go with the CC. I like the bloodline myself.
Fling N Famous! He is only a few hours from me. I went to see him and the CC stud in person and they are stunning |
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Location: TN | Fast & Quick horses are easy to train and easy to reuin. I'd take the CC horse any day over the thought of a life time of heart breake with PSSM threat(ASOF).
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | daisycake123 - 2018-02-06 8:54 PM I have raised 2 grand get of c.f. the stud have not been advertised and when I inquired say a horse on the out of this stallion advertised for 55k. Fast forward 1st baby seemed nice and got kinda lucky the lady who owned the stallion gave me a second breeding. The first baby was always quiet, but very smart looked around had a time finding a knowledgeable trainer, send her to a cutting horse trainer went to pick her up and had so.e drama in my life ANF could not check on her after about 1st 60days. Fast forward picked her up after about 5 months they brought her out to me and I told them I need to see her ride they where having a little jackpot that day I thought they would ride her when they where done but the came and got me as the girl was riding her the trainer was at a show. Not as broke as I and hope she asked me did I want to ride her. I said yes, she went to get off and I walked to my mare and jerked back and almost drug the girl. I did get on her and could tell she was very nervous she I had to get them to hold her to get off. When I brought the mare to them was her first time on the trailer and away from home she was as quiet as any horse I had hauled dozens of times, she acted like she had been doing this all her life. So I brought her home and I got a Wal-Mart bag on a carrot stick and she like to drug me and just kept doing ground work for about 3 weeks and got a little ace and used it a couple of times as I ride by myself never had any problem. About a month latter a trainer just moved here from Arizona he was an assistant for a very well know trainer from Arizona very knowledgeable person was giving lessons he really liked my mare and asked him would he take my filly and he has about 15 rides on her says she is really very smart and talented. Made me happy for a Reiner not knowing me or my Colts from Adam. They are out of.my mare whose mother was a barrel horse and my mare has 4 full brothers and sisters that are barrel horses. But these Colts are way quieter than mom and my older mare can drag her but. But they are smart. My 2 year old had never really been tied put her on the trailer and tied her but fixed it with a hay string so if she got in a jam it would give told Andre he says she ties now never pulled back. He also like mares and said she has a nice trot. If is not raining will see her sat or the next sat. I can say he has said how nice she is about a dozen times. Makes me a proud momma. My older mare she is now 5 put her in the isle way drop the rope and groom her and saddle her walk to the trailer stays put. Can tell you how crazy I am about her. She got started late and she did something last summer and got sore in her back on one side just tired her our until late last fall and she came right back she wants to be light.
you need to add some paragraphs.
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| I think the bottom line ends up being what type of horse you get along with better. I don't do as well on a free runner type and ride a ratey horse much better. Might also depend on your mare and if you are trying to balance something of hers. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | 1DSoon - 2018-02-07 11:27 AM daisycake123 - 2018-02-06 8:54 PM I have raised 2 grand get of c.f. the stud have not been advertised and when I inquired say a horse on the out of this stallion advertised for 55k.
Fast forward 1st baby seemed nice and got kinda lucky the lady who owned the stallion gave me a second breeding. The first baby was always quiet, but very smart looked around had a time finding a knowledgeable trainer, send her to a cutting horse trainer went to pick her up and had so.e drama in my life ANF could not check on her after about 1st 60days.
Fast forward picked her up after about 5 months they brought her out to me and I told them I need to see her ride they where having a little jackpot that day I thought they would ride her when they where done but the came and got me as the girl was riding her the trainer was at a show. Not as broke as I and hope she asked me did I want to ride her. I said yes, she went to get off and I walked to my mare and jerked back and almost drug the girl. I did get on her and could tell she was very nervous she I had to get them to hold her to get off.
When I brought the mare to them was her first time on the trailer and away from home she was as quiet as any horse I had hauled dozens of times, she acted like she had been doing this all her life. So I brought her home and I got a Wal-Mart bag on a carrot stick and she like to drug me and just kept doing ground work for about 3 weeks and got a little ace and used it a couple of times as I ride by myself never had any problem.
About a month latter a trainer just moved here from Arizona he was an assistant for a very well know trainer from Arizona very knowledgeable person was giving lessons he really liked my mare and asked him would he take my filly and he has about 15 rides on her says she is really very smart and talented. Made me happy for a Reiner not knowing me or my Colts from Adam.
They are out of.my mare whose mother was a barrel horse and my mare has 4 full brothers and sisters that are barrel horses. But these Colts are way quieter than mom and my older mare can drag her but. But they are smart. My 2 year old had never really been tied put her on the trailer and tied her but fixed it with a hay string so if she got in a jam it would give told Andre he says she ties now never pulled back. He also like mares and said she has a nice trot. If is not raining will see her sat or the next sat.
I can say he has said how nice she is about a dozen times. Makes me a proud momma. My older mare she is now 5 put her in the isle way drop the rope and groom her and saddle her walk to the trailer stays put.
Can tell you how crazy I am about her. She got started late and she did something last summer and got sore in her back on one side just tired her our until late last fall and she came right back she wants to be light
. you need to add some paragraphs.
That's pretty much unreadable.
Is CF, Col Freckles?
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Location: Home on the Range | 1DSoon - 2018-02-01 2:15 PM Sockittoemred - 2018-02-01 1:55 PM Call AQHA and make sure foals from each stallion are able to be registered. That said, I would pick the second cross.
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Which bloodline would you prefer