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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I did a search back a year trying various words but couldn't find threads on this topic.
I have a grey horse with what is supposed to be a white tail. Arena dirt and his love of rolling in whatever gets him dirtiest has left me with a more yellow/orange yuck tail. Regular shampoo and Orvis shampoo doesn't get the yellow out. What do you folks use that works?
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    Location: Texas | a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup |
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| The blue suave mens shampoo. It works like a charm. |
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| I used laundry grade bluing cleaner on the paint I used to have. I just dunked the mane and tail, scrubbed a bit, rinsed, and conditioned. Did a really nice job very fast. |
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| I LOVE the Purple White and Brite shampoo by Farnam. I had a POA with a white tail and this made is So pretty and shiny. Plus the stains didn't stick as bad.
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| AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 10:06 AM
a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup
Okay, I'll bite - ketchup?? |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | most whitening shampoos strip the hair and open it up for more stains to just get in deeper as well as making it dry and brittle. I paid $75 for a hunter under saddle mane braiding video to learn this lol. But it totally made sense why it was harder and harder to get the yellow out. EquiFUSE has the perfect shampoos/conditioners and leave in to get them clean to the base and protect against sun damage. My pali stud has a mane and tail that feels like human hair and he always has nasty poop in it. I can get it clean with one washing. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-05 11:08 AM most whitening shampoos strip the hair and open it up for more stains to just get in deeper as well as making it dry and brittle. I paid $75 for a hunter under saddle mane braiding video to learn this lol. But it totally made sense why it was harder and harder to get the yellow out. EquiFUSE has the perfect shampoos/conditioners and leave in to get them clean to the base and protect against sun damage. My pali stud has a mane and tail that feels like human hair and he always has nasty poop in it. I can get it clean with one washing.
I did have to use Mane N tail Conditioner in the winter time to keep it long and soft on mine. Mine had a typical Appy tail as a youngster, and I worked hard to get it beautiful! |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Nateracer - 2018-02-05 10:16 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-05 11:08 AM most whitening shampoos strip the hair and open it up for more stains to just get in deeper as well as making it dry and brittle. I paid $75 for a hunter under saddle mane braiding video to learn this lol. But it totally made sense why it was harder and harder to get the yellow out. EquiFUSE has the perfect shampoos/conditioners and leave in to get them clean to the base and protect against sun damage. My pali stud has a mane and tail that feels like human hair and he always has nasty poop in it. I can get it clean with one washing. I did have to use Mane N tail Conditioner in the winter time to keep it long and soft on mine. Mine had a typical Appy tail as a youngster, and I worked hard to get it beautiful! I showed against a girl in 4H that had an appy that looked exactly like yours. You could only see the spots if she was wet. That horse won EVERYTHING in the show ring. I think she had a short mane but did have a lovely tail for an Appy. I also grew up on apps. My dad was a fan, me not so much. But the one sure taught me how to ride and even though we had a personality conflict, I have to credit her for being one if not the, most athletic horses I ever rode-EVER. She could do it all.
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-05 11:24 AM Nateracer - 2018-02-05 10:16 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-05 11:08 AM most whitening shampoos strip the hair and open it up for more stains to just get in deeper as well as making it dry and brittle. I paid $75 for a hunter under saddle mane braiding video to learn this lol. But it totally made sense why it was harder and harder to get the yellow out. EquiFUSE has the perfect shampoos/conditioners and leave in to get them clean to the base and protect against sun damage. My pali stud has a mane and tail that feels like human hair and he always has nasty poop in it. I can get it clean with one washing.
I did have to use Mane N tail Conditioner in the winter time to keep it long and soft on mine. Mine had a typical Appy tail as a youngster, and I worked hard to get it beautiful! I showed against a girl in 4H that had an appy that looked exactly like yours. You could only see the spots if she was wet. That horse won EVERYTHING in the show ring. I think she had a short mane but did have a lovely tail for an Appy. I also grew up on apps. My dad was a fan, me not so much. But the one sure taught me how to ride and even though we had a personality conflict, I have to credit her for being one if not the, most athletic horses I ever rode-EVER. She could do it all.
Funny part was she didn't start out that color! I loved her more when she aged! |
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    Location: Texas | Griz - 2018-02-05 11:07 AM
AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 10:06 AM
a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup
Okay, I'll bite - ketchup??
Not sure what it is that's in it but it works, I use it if I'm out of blue shampoo. A lady once told me about it when I asked her how she kept her horses tail so pretty and white. But it takes a whole bottle to saturate and soak a thick tail.... |
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| AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 11:37 AM Griz - 2018-02-05 11:07 AM AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 10:06 AM a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup Okay, I'll bite - ketchup?? Not sure what it is that's in it but it works, I use it if I'm out of blue shampoo. A lady once told me about it when I asked her how she kept her horses tail so pretty and white. But it takes a whole bottle to saturate and soak a thick tail....
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    Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2018-02-05 11:41 AM
AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 11:37 AM Griz - 2018-02-05 11:07 AM AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 10:06 AM a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup Okay, I'll bite - ketchup?? Not sure what it is that's in it but it works, I use it if I'm out of blue shampoo. A lady once told me about it when I asked her how she kept her horses tail so pretty and white. But it takes a whole bottle to saturate and soak a thick tail....
Vinegar
that's what I figure just didn't want to quote it without knowing for sure for sure |
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  Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Quicksilver! It works amazingly for my pallys tail and he lovessss to be dirty. I get compliments on it all the time! |
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       Location: North Dakota | Mane N Tail Spray N White shampoo -- it works great! Just make sure you don't leave it in too long or you will have a purple tail....
I only had this gorgeous boy for a few months, and it was pain to get him this clean ... but boy he sure looked good all nice and white!

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| Quic Silver is my favoite shampoo. I don't feel like it is as stripping as some of the others. One thing you have to do after is condition condition CONDITION!! I like to prevent my white tails from getting nasty in the first place if I can. I keep their tails up saddle seat style. (Sorta like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiyEh0LwMw) |
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| The Mane and Tail purple spray whitener is a favorite, but I have an old school way too. Soap tail up with Palmolive dishwashing soap. Mix water (75%) and Clorox bleach (25%) and pour onto soaped up tail. Rinse after 5 minutes. Make sure you have a powerful spray attachment on your hose so you can rinse the tail completely. Using a conditioner afterwards of course will prevent dryness and damage.
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     Location: North of Tulsa, Oklahoma | Walmart brand of Head and Shoulders dandruff shampoo! |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Thanks guys! You have given me some great ideas. Now...if it would only get warm enough to give a full bath! |
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| If you just can’t get it to come clean, you can get Fanciful Grey Hair Rinse from a beauty supply in different shades of grey, silver and white. It’s just washable hair dye. Does a good job hiding yellow or pink staining, washes out and easy to use. |
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     Location: Canada | Purple shampoo removes the yellow because of the color wheel. Purple neutralizes yellow which is why it's the shampoo color of choice for blondes as it removes the brassiness. Ketchup works because the vinegar and citric acid opens the cuticles and removes the deposited stain color. It's more drying and damaging then using shampoo and conditioner. The best way I've found is to wash the lower part of the tail with a clarifying shampoo, then use an Equine Purple Shampoo (I like Quick Silver) and saturate all the hair. Let it sit for 10 minutes or so (continue to check the hair as some hair absorbs color faster and you don't want a purple tail) and rinse in cool water. Follow with a purple conditioner. Remember a wet tail will likely look more yellow then it will dry. |
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| AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 11:37 AM
Griz - 2018-02-05 11:07 AM
AshleyJ2911 - 2018-02-05 10:06 AM
a few things I use is.. blue shampoo, blonde shampoo for human, and ketchup
Okay, I'll bite - ketchup??
Not sure what it is that's in it but it works, I use it if I'm out of blue shampoo. A lady once told me about it when I asked her how she kept her horses tail so pretty and white. But it takes a whole bottle to saturate and soak a thick tail....
Wow - that's neat! I had never heard that!
I used to use a shampoo from Farnum, I believe, named Wonder Blue - it smelled SO good! |
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        Location: the end of the rainbow | RunNitroRun - 2018-02-06 9:43 AM
Purple shampoo removes the yellow because of the color wheel. Purple neutralizes yellow which is why it's the shampoo color of choice for blondes as it removes the brassiness. Ketchup works because the vinegar and citric acid opens the cuticles and removes the deposited stain color. It's more drying and damaging then using shampoo and conditioner. The best way I've found is to wash the lower part of the tail with a clarifying shampoo, then use an Equine Purple Shampoo (I like Quick Silver) and saturate all the hair. Let it sit for 10 minutes or so (continue to check the hair as some hair absorbs color faster and you don't want a purple tail) and rinse in cool water. Follow with a purple conditioner. Remember a wet tail will likely look more yellow then it will dry.
I know your science is correct a d I've only tried the ketchup trick once & I did use a regular conditioner after but it seemed way less drying than the bluing shampoo to me. I wish I would have take before pictures |
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