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Looking for an FG stud that is proven himself and has get that is proven only! Marketability is also a plus!
Anyone have any experience with the following sons (open to hear others if not mentioned):
First Down French
Frenchmans Fabulous
Frenchmans Easy Doc
OR would PC Frenchmans Hayday be a better option (NOT FG)?
If I have listed the stallion, they are in my budget.

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Breeding an Oklahoma Fuel daughter out of a Rocket Wrangler mare. Looking for an FG stud that is proven himself and has get that is proven only! Marketability is also a plus! Anyone have any experience with the following sons (open to hear others if not mentioned ): First Down French Frenchmans Fabulous Frenchmans Easy Doc OR would PC Frenchmans Hayday be a better option? If I have listed the stallion, they are in my budget. 
First Down French-
He's very kind and easy to be around. And so are his babies. Naturals with a lot of rate and a big move on the back side. I've seen some with structural issues but that being said it could have easily come from the mares side, as I've seen more that are built good and sound.
Frenchmans Fabulous-
I've only ever been around 2, and both were obnoxious trouble makers. Really cool to ride, but annoying to have around.
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Of those Frenchmans Fabulous. I will toss in Guys Piece Ofthe Pie. He is a futurity, derby, slot race, 1D and rodeo money earner. Still out there running and winning. Had the winter off and went out and won $500+ last weekend. He has offspring running and winning right along side him. Sire of a Futurity money earner from his first foal crop with a handful entering this year. His babies are eligible for Future Fortunes, 5State, VGBRA and the Cowboy Incentive. They are very marketable and a big return on your $1000 investment. I know he ships fabulous. A yearling colt just brought $7500 at the Black Hills Stock Show. He is out of one of the best producing daughters of Pie In The Sky-he has full siblings that have won tons of rodeo/futurity money-Sky High Guy-over $250,000. Guys Pie In The Sky, Peaches N Pie, Fleeting French Girl... |
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Breeding an Oklahoma Fuel daughter out of a Rocket Wrangler mare. Looking for an FG stud that is proven himself and has get that is proven only! Marketability is also a plus! Anyone have any experience with the following sons (open to hear others if not mentioned ): First Down French Frenchmans Fabulous Frenchmans Easy Doc OR would PC Frenchmans Hayday be a better option? If I have listed the stallion, they are in my budget. 
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:14 AM mattslilwonder - 2018-02-21 10:05 AM Guys Real Deal This was my guys real deal from a couple years ago.

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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:28 AM I sold her to a gal in WY, a week later the gals husband died and she pretty much dropped off the face of the earth...so I dont know, unfortunatly.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-21 10:36 AM Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:28 AM I sold her to a gal in WY, a week later the gals husband died and she pretty much dropped off the face of the earth...so I dont know, unfortunatly. Thats to bad , shes a really nice looking filly, I would love to see what she looks like now, thats a great booty and shoulder on her.
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-21 10:36 AM Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:28 AM I sold her to a gal in WY, a week later the gals husband died and she pretty much dropped off the face of the earth...so I dont know, unfortunatly. Thats to bad , shes a really nice looking filly, I would love to see what she looks like now, thats a great booty and shoulder on her.
Do you remember her Reg. name?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shine+n+dash
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-21 10:58 AM Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:38 AM Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-21 10:36 AM Whiteboy - 2018-02-21 10:28 AM I sold her to a gal in WY, a week later the gals husband died and she pretty much dropped off the face of the earth...so I dont know, unfortunatly. Thats to bad , shes a really nice looking filly, I would love to see what she looks like now, thats a great booty and shoulder on her.
Do you remember her Reg. name? http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shine+n+dash Well shes still with the lady you sold her to, well at least shes still under her name. Sure would like to see what she looks like now. Very classy filly. 
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Dinero would be my next choice, of the ones you have listed.
I would like to breed to Frenchmans Easy Doc eventually as I am partial to Easy April Lena.
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| Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous
Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
Fab was wayyy more foals on the ground for sure and more disciplines fo sure but BHR FS is barrels alone and over 1 million.
Which outlier? BA Tee It Up In My Sox, Kiss This Guy, Don't Judge My Sox?
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1DSoon - 2018-02-21 12:33 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
Fab was wayyy more foals on the ground for sure and more disciplines fo sure but BHR FS is barrels alone and over 1 million.
Which outlier? BA Tee It Up In My Sox, Kiss This Guy, Don't Judge My Sox?
exactly! Frenchies Socks has more earnings per starter if the stats I looked up are correct. Both are nice sires, but of the 2 I think BHRFS is going to continue being popular. |
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     Location: Desert Land | I am partial to First Down French because I have seen him run and win barrel races in person, I have been up and personal with him several times and just love the way he is put together and I have had several babies out of several mares and they have all been very nice. The oldest one I bred is a 5 yo this year and is running and winning with an amateur trainer. The other 2 are not old enough to compete yet, but I have my eye on them with their new owners.
I have also bred to Fab and am expecting that baby in April out of a very nice DTF mare. No doubt as far as stats go he is the #1 siring son of FG. And he was a proven competitior himself.
I have also owned a son of Dinero who was a nice colt, but the opposite of what people say of Dinero's. He was very willing, butt definaitely more on the lazy side. He was the sweetest thing ever, but had no desire to be fast. |
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      Location: GODS country | This is my reasoning for considering First Down French! I have heard so many great things about him and have watched several videos of him and his colts and they are all amazing and winners! Would have loved to see him run in person, or just meet him in person!
How are you Chopper babies bred on the bottom side?
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This was our Traffic Guy filly
See her running around here. https://www.facebook.com/bythebookbarrelhorses/videos/18177928951999... She had a good temperament too. Lady that bought her has been pretty happy with her so far. She is currently a yearling. |
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    Location: Texas | I am voting for Fab hands down....have ridden a lot of them so I feel like I have a good reading on them. Every single Fab I have ridden has been gritty, turny, want to please type horses. Cute personalities, very curious, but want to work. |
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    Location: Texas | streakysox - 2018-02-21 3:44 PM
I have three mares booked to Guys Easy Jet.
I'm in love with my GEJ 3 year old!
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         Location: Sunnyland Florida | MerryLegs - 2018-02-22 1:17 PM I am voting for Fab hands down....have ridden a lot of them so I feel like I have a good reading on them. Every single Fab I have ridden has been gritty, turny, want to please type horses. Cute personalities, very curious, but want to work.
Not sure if everyone does realize that. Dinero is actually a full-brother to Frenchman's Guy.
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
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     Location: Desert Land | OregonBR - 2018-02-22 9:26 AM You all realize that Dinero ISN'T by FG don't you?
I am aware that he is indeed NOT a son of FG. I have owned a Dinero son and have bred one to him as well. |
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You all realize that Dinero ISN'T by FG don't you?
I edited my post. I should of made my OR more clear. I wanted to know if people had better success/info with the referenced FG son's OR PC Frenchmans Hayday (Sun Frost son). |
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     Location: Desert Land | ecranch - 2018-02-22 6:57 AM This is my reasoning for considering First Down French! I have heard so many great things about him and have watched several videos of him and his colts and they are all amazing and winners! Would have loved to see him run in person, or just meet him in person! How are you Chopper babies bred on the bottom side? Would love to see pictures of your colts out of these studs! 
These are the 3 fillies I had. I sold them all as weanlings, so all the pics I have are of them as weanlings.
This is the 5 yo. She is out of a daughter of Casady Casanova I had. The mare also produced Casadys Cash N Fame that Vicky Carter ran and placed on in the 2016 NFR.

This is a filly out of a AA running/1D producing daughter of Leaving Memories. She is a 2 yo this year.
 This filly is out a really nice 1D/futurity winner producing daughter of Dash Ta Fame. She is a yearling this year.
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I'm actually an oldie that can't remember her log in so i just make new ones.
I miss the days of laramie (rest in peace) , tammi used to be on here all the time, debi B. never comments anymore.
I miss the just good discussion days

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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-22 1:39 PM I swear its so snarky on here these days. I'm actually an oldie that can't remember her log in so i just make new ones. I miss the days of laramie (rest in peace ) , tammi used to be on here all the time, debi B. never comments anymore. I miss the just good discussion days 
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-22 1:39 PM I swear its so snarky on here these days. I'm actually an oldie that can't remember her log in so i just make new ones. I miss the days of laramie (rest in peace ) , tammi used to be on here all the time, debi B. never comments anymore. I miss the just good discussion days 
ah there are a few goodies still. There is always a pot stirrer. They aren't worth the time to reply on their comments-unless you want to slap an obnoxious meme under their comment
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Here's a few of these if you don't believe me. 
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If you're talking about me, sorry to disappoint, I've been here since the "good old days". It's ALWAYS been like it is now. I wasn't trying to be snarky. It may have come out that way. But trust me there wasn't any snark in my intent.
Oh no know the tone of your posts and appreciate that you always add to the conversation!
Your right tho it's always been like this...it seems more so now. Sorry for the off topic OP.
I like to amuse myself by giving ppl on here voices these days that liken queen Elizabeth in the crown.
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OregonBR - 2018-02-22 3:08 PM
If you're talking about me, sorry to disappoint, I've been here since the "good old days". It's ALWAYS been like it is now. I wasn't trying to be snarky. It may have come out that way. But trust me there wasn't any snark in my intent.
Oh no know the tone of your posts and appreciate that you always add to the conversation!
Your right tho it's always been like this...it seems more so now. Sorry for the off topic OP.
I like to amuse myself by giving ppl on here voices these days that liken queen Elizabeth in the crown.
I like to be factual. If I see anything that's not factual I have a need to correct the false information.
On topic, there are at the very least a handful of FG sons that are making stellar sires. Even more that could be if they were better known. I have a daughter of FG that is a wonderful producer. Her babies are like gold to their owners. They just keep winning and winning. Maybe I should call the next one Donald... hmmmm lol |
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1st one easily sold as a yearling and has made a nice 2D horse who is really taking off in the roping pen
2nd one I got as a 5YO and as a 7YO with me hauling her has won 1D money and sold for what I wanted. https://youtu.be/RzSXE1Rhzic
3rd one is the one I'm hauling now. Shes a 4YO out of one of my best mares, who filled my permit and has a 1D record at the big stuff. As a late 3YO she ran a 1D money earning time out of 150 horses her second time to enter a race. She hit a barrel to clock in the 1D first go of the ultimate futurity in Edna. Second go she ran green. After that, she's been 1D 3 out of the last 4 runs (2D run the other). She won her first barrel race (by almost 0.2) last weekend, outrunning 160 horses. https://youtu.be/xrygKq2QXjQ https://youtu.be/vo1JDe2aQCM https://youtu.be/Dwd_CkCCfpI
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Guys Canyon Moon
Jolene M. has a foal out of him this year and owners Mike S. and Kelly S. have many more on the way out of nice proven DTF mares.
Def one to watch!
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Thanks yes guys canyon moon compare the pedigree there isn’t a better bred son of Frenchmans guy out their and he is PROVEN he’s one at every level and being campaigned by Tammy Fischer he has babies coming out of several nfr mares with top riders and owners thanks for the kind words
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Thanks yes guys canyon moon compare the pedigree there isn’t a better bred son of Frenchmans guy out their and he is PROVEN he’s one at every level and being campaigned by Tammy Fischer he has babies coming out of several nfr mares with top riders and owners thanks for the kind words
Hi Mike! How old are Nuke's oldest babies? You guys have some 2 yr olds at Bill K's or did I miss read that on fb?
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
For the uninformed, what is an outlier?
I know right
I didn't even mention GoodFrenchmanFriday whose the leading money earner.
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My First Down French o/o a half TB mare at 9 months old (getting desensitized to the plastic bag by my amazing boyfriend. Can't you tell this colt is a crazy one XD)
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
We have another "outlier" making a big splash!
I totally forgot Grandiose Guy because he was a nice consistent futurity horse not a stand out but him and Craig just smoked a 13.7
Just couldn't resist 
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      Location: GODS country | Dreamingofcans - 2018-02-23 9:01 PM
I have a First Down French and I just love her. Very talented. Very athletic. And I love her disposition.
You will have to post some pictures!
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runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only.
not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
Fab was wayyy more foals on the ground for sure and more disciplines fo sure but BHR FS is barrels alone and over 1 million.
Which outlier? BA Tee It Up In My Sox, Kiss This Guy, Don't Judge My Sox?
exactly! Frenchies Socks has more earnings per starter if the stats I looked up are correct. Both are nice sires, but of the 2 I think BHRFS is going to continue being popular.
From BHR fb this morning. “ Too cool not to share! BHR Frenchies Socks has OFFICIALLY passed Frenchmans Fabulous on Equistat! We don't like to be negative and aren't taking away anything from FF but this is special! And check out the numbers! BHR FS 1.3 million and it took 79 horses to get there and FF 1.25 million and it took 159 horses to get there! 2018 was one for the record books and we look forward to 2019's breeding season! Books will open this fall! Thank you to everyone who played a hand in making this happen! It takes a village and we are thankful for each and everyone out there! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!”
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-07-11 2:24 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2018-02-21 2:12 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 11:38 AM 1DSoon - 2018-02-21 12:33 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-21 1:21 PM Tn_Barrelracer - 2018-02-21 12:10 PM BHR Frenchie Socks First down French Frenchman’s Fabulous Word! RIght now I think BHR FS and Fab are in an equistat race currently thats neck and neck, if your talking barrels only. not if you remove the outlier.
BHR is nice, but Fab has a bigger sample set and the more succesful sire.
Fab was wayyy more foals on the ground for sure and more disciplines fo sure but BHR FS is barrels alone and over 1 million. Which outlier? BA Tee It Up In My Sox, Kiss This Guy, Don't Judge My Sox? exactly! Frenchies Socks has more earnings per starter if the stats I looked up are correct. Both are nice sires, but of the 2 I think BHRFS is going to continue being popular. From BHR fb this morning. “ Too cool not to share! BHR Frenchies Socks has OFFICIALLY passed Frenchmans Fabulous on Equistat! We don't like to be negative and aren't taking away anything from FF but this is special! And check out the numbers! BHR FS 1.3 million and it took 79 horses to get there and FF 1.25 million and it took 159 horses to get there! 2018 was one for the record books and we look forward to 2019's breeding season! Books will open this fall! Thank you to everyone who played a hand in making this happen! It takes a village and we are thankful for each and everyone out there! Thank you thank you thank you!!!!” Also want to add the winnings from FL state show and many from June have not been added.
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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    Location: Dubach, LA | ecranch - 2018-02-21 9:06 AM
Breeding an Oklahoma Fuel daughter out of a Rocket Wrangler mare. Looking for an FG stud that is proven himself and has get that is proven only! Marketability is also a plus! Anyone have any experience with the following sons (open to hear others if not mentioned ): First Down French Frenchmans Fabulous Frenchmans Easy Doc OR would PC Frenchmans Hayday be a better option (NOT FG )? If I have listed the stallion, they are in my budget. 
I don’t know where you are, but there’s a nice own son of FG in east Texas. Nice stud. Same breeder also has owns sons of FDD and Dinero.
Edited by CanCan 2018-07-13 8:58 PM
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