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Location: Muskogee, OK | Wanting to try my horse in a rope nose combination bit- looking for recommendations. Currently I ride him in a Sherry Cervi short shank dog bone and he works great in it for the most part but I am looking to add just a touch of control. |
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| I don't feel a rope nose combo adds control. They will get a horse to start rooting against it though, if you have one your trying to get a touch more run out of because they are shrinking away from the bit then I rope nose is great....more control tho I disagree with |
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| Don Wasson Teardrop combo bit. Very short shank. Available from Josey's |
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Location: Tennessee | I would go with a longer shank bit of the bit you are using. Use one to compete in and one to ride in at home. |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | Dandy - 2018-02-27 11:34 AM
I would go with a longer shank bit of the bit you are using. Use one to compete in and one to ride in at home.
I generally ride in a snaffle at home and then run him in the cervi bit. He ran on the track and when I really open him up he has a tendency to want to stick his nose out and run through the bit just a touch.
**I do realize that a bit change does not substitute a good foundation. He is very broke and when riding around at home very responsive and collected. I am just wanting to get a little more control at the higher rates of speed. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | I have a 5 year old that loves them. I can ride him in other bits but he loves the rope. I'm thinking he will eventually be a hackamore horse. I have one with a really think smooth snaffle oring bit with rope nose. I was just tlooking at joseys website to have another on to try yesterday...........Ive had this bit over 15 years and I used it on a mare that was really extra light in the mouth and this worked awesome on her..... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I like the Hodges Futurity Dog bone.. |
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Location: Louisiana | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-02-27 10:40 AM
I don't feel a rope nose combo adds control. They will get a horse to start rooting against it though, if you have one your trying to get a touch more run out of because they are shrinking away from the bit then I rope nose is great....more control tho I disagree with
I agree...I have a rope nose combo I use in big pens or when my gelding hasn't been firing hard. Pretty much anytime I want LESS control.
The "harshest" bit I use is a long shank Cervi - everything I have respects that. |
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| Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | iloveequine40 - 2018-02-27 2:00 PM
Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride
This is an interesting concept.... will try this out although it does sound a little intimidating! |
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| iloveequine40 - 2018-02-27 3:00 PM
Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride
This worked for my off the track horses, but my gelding (was not on the track, I believe he was started as a reining horse by his foundation) does not fly well with this concept.
He enjoys running and doesn't care to stop till he gets tired, or gets turned into a logpile to stop. **Note to self, he doesn't do s hacks**
He's also had some issues, so not sure what to blame it on but that ride wasn't fun. BUT...he does like the Start to Finish bit. Doesn't quite have enough to get his attention while we are retuning the patience button.
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | barrelracingchick16 - 2018-02-27 1:11 PM iloveequine40 - 2018-02-27 2:00 PM Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride This is an interesting concept.... will try this out although it does sound a little intimidating!
Believe it or not I actually do this with my mare that was cutting horse trained. She gets really pushy during everyday riding so I ride her in a longer shanked Dave Elliott, but when I would run her in it, she would slam barrels. Right now I am running her in a round ring snaffle and she is not near as reactive and will allow me to get her by the barrel as long as I sit up and ride. When running in the Elliott she would try and turn if I barely lifted a hand. |
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| Also, I dunno if you have played with mouth pieces any but in bits I love like say a Kathy James I have every mouth piece of...some horses get tuned in one mouth piece and make runs in another. Example: I'll work one gelding in a chain mouth snaffle bc he can't "take it" from me, too many breaks. Then I run him in a smooth snaffle which has less control on him bc he gets more up in the bridle and "can take the bit." This is another take on reverse biting (work in more controlled bit and run in less control bit)
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| barrelracingchick16 - 2018-02-27 2:11 PM
iloveequine40 - 2018-02-27 2:00 PM
Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride
This is an interesting concept.... will try this out although it does sound a little intimidating!
Dont let it intimidate you. You dont have to go get a deep ported correction bit to play with it. Just remember your hands control the severity of ANY bit. Play with different bits and get a feel and how quickly your horse responds. I ride in different bits all the time depending on what I'm trying to work on and every horse is different. The gelding I referred to in my comment hates gags of ANY kind. He runs well in a Jr cow or if I need a little more rate(usually big outdoor pens) get the Cervi short shank dog bone. |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | mgander - 2018-02-27 3:05 PM iloveequine40 - 2018-02-27 3:00 PM Reverse your bit usage, using the heavier bit for everyday riding for lighter hands/quick response and go to lighter bit when running bc your hands get heavier when you add speed particularly since he's off track and taught to push into bit. I do this with my off track gelding and it works beautifully. I also don't have to run him balls to the wall to the first bc he has speed and stride This worked for my off the track horses, but my gelding (was not on the track, I believe he was started as a reining horse by his foundation ) does not fly well with this concept. He enjoys running and doesn't care to stop till he gets tired, or gets turned into a logpile to stop. **Note to self, he doesn't do s hacks** He's also had some issues, so not sure what to blame it on but that ride wasn't fun. BUT...he does like the Start to Finish bit. Doesn't quite have enough to get his attention while we are retuning the patience button.
If he was started as a reining horse, hugging (wrapping) legs and picking up is actually the route you'd want to go. The normal reaction is to take legs off but actual reiners seem to thrive on the leg support (in what I've been taught/told) |
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