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Location: Missouri | Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!! |
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Location: The Great Northwest |  I have a suggestion since you are making a move to a grain free diet. Have you heard about the Hemp products? Hemp oil is the best oil for horses and all animals it has the best omega ratio and a secret weapon to decrease inflammation plus the fat that doesn't give those highs but a even temperment. The Hemp meal is excellent for protein providing all 10 essential Amino Acids that horses need to build muscle and recover from training, hauling and races. And more Amazing is that horses, dogs all animals love it!
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Location: Willows, CA | macariska - 2018-03-08 9:48 PM
Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!!
As the person who developed both products, I can offer a little information. Stabilized Rice Bran is a great direct grain replacement. It offers greater energy in a safer, more compact package that fits the digestive system better. Renew Gold is very different. The goal here is whole system efficiency from the mouth back. This includes better nutrient uptake, reduced bacterial induced inflammation, and a prebiotic to help normalize the hind gut for more effective use of the forage part of the diet. Both provide benefits in their own right, but they function in very different ways. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | winwillows - 2018-03-08 11:23 PM macariska - 2018-03-08 9:48 PM Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!! As the person who developed both products, I can offer a little information. Stabilized Rice Bran is a great direct grain replacement. It offers greater energy in a safer, more compact package that fits the digestive system better. Renew Gold is very different. The goal here is whole system efficiency from the mouth back. This includes better nutrient uptake, reduced bacterial induced inflammation, and a prebiotic to help normalize the hind gut for more effective use of the forage part of the diet. Both provide benefits in their own right, but they function in very different ways.
Let me throw Nutrenas Empower Boost in here. That has probiotics,Is that a better option then either of these?
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | macariska - 2018-03-08 10:48 PM Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!!
I use the rice bran. Why? Because it is very hard for me to get Renew Gold consistently at our TSC and Win told me it was the next best thing. We feed 1/3 lb oats, rice bran and free fed alfalfa. |
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Location: Willows, CA | cindyt - 2018-03-09 7:52 AM
winwillows - 2018-03-08 11:23 PM macariska - 2018-03-08 9:48 PM Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!! As the person who developed both products, I can offer a little information. Stabilized Rice Bran is a great direct grain replacement. It offers greater energy in a safer, more compact package that fits the digestive system better. Renew Gold is very different. The goal here is whole system efficiency from the mouth back. This includes better nutrient uptake, reduced bacterial induced inflammation, and a prebiotic to help normalize the hind gut for more effective use of the forage part of the diet. Both provide benefits in their own right, but they function in very different ways.
Let me throw Nutrenas Empower Boost in here. That has probiotics,Is that a better option then either of these?
Probiotics vs prebiotic is a whole different issue, and worth talking about. The coconut in Renew Gold does a number of very unique functions in the horses body. Flax improves the omega 3 to Omega 6 level. So, there are a number of differences in function with food grade coconut making them uniquely possible. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | winwillows - 2018-03-09 8:42 AM cindyt - 2018-03-09 7:52 AM winwillows - 2018-03-08 11:23 PM macariska - 2018-03-08 9:48 PM Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!! As the person who developed both products, I can offer a little information. Stabilized Rice Bran is a great direct grain replacement. It offers greater energy in a safer, more compact package that fits the digestive system better. Renew Gold is very different. The goal here is whole system efficiency from the mouth back. This includes better nutrient uptake, reduced bacterial induced inflammation, and a prebiotic to help normalize the hind gut for more effective use of the forage part of the diet. Both provide benefits in their own right, but they function in very different ways.
Let me throw Nutrenas Empower Boost in here. That has probiotics,Is that a better option then either of these? Probiotics vs prebiotic is a whole different issue, and worth talking about. The coconut in Renew Gold does a number of very unique functions in the horses body. Flax improves the omega 3 to Omega 6 level. So, there are a number of differences in function with food grade coconut making them uniquely possible.
The Empower boost has both pro and pre.
I was looking for a chance in this reguard as well and I was actually looking at these 3 supplements to top dress some alfalfa cubes, but wanting all the vit and minerals in it so I don't have to supplement those as well.
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winwillows - 2018-03-09 8:42 AM cindyt - 2018-03-09 7:52 AM winwillows - 2018-03-08 11:23 PM macariska - 2018-03-08 9:48 PM Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!! As the person who developed both products, I can offer a little information. Stabilized Rice Bran is a great direct grain replacement. It offers greater energy in a safer, more compact package that fits the digestive system better. Renew Gold is very different. The goal here is whole system efficiency from the mouth back. This includes better nutrient uptake, reduced bacterial induced inflammation, and a prebiotic to help normalize the hind gut for more effective use of the forage part of the diet. Both provide benefits in their own right, but they function in very different ways.
Let me throw Nutrenas Empower Boost in here. That has probiotics,Is that a better option then either of these? Probiotics vs prebiotic is a whole different issue, and worth talking about. The coconut in Renew Gold does a number of very unique functions in the horses body. Flax improves the omega 3 to Omega 6 level. So, there are a number of differences in function with food grade coconut making them uniquely possible.
The Empower boost has both pro and pre.
I was looking for a chance in this reguard as well and I was actually looking at these 3 supplements to top dress some alfalfa cubes, but wanting all the vit and minerals in it so I don't have to supplement those as well.
Probiotics contain live micro organisms that inhabit the gut, PRE-biotics are just food for those live bacteria that already live there. Forco is a PRE biotic. THe problem with most PRO biotics out there, are that they are not equine specific. Forefront and a couple others actually use EQUINE probiotics. The problem you face with daily fed probiotics is that they can upset the balance of good and bad bacteria in the gut. A healthy horse naturally keeps a good balance of these from proper forage and nutrition. If you feed live probiotics daily then you are more likely to upset this balance. The only time I use PRO biotics is after worming, vaccinations, and antibiotic use. Mine all get FORCO every day to feed the good bacteria in the gut and reduce GI stress. |
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Location: Illinois | I have no experience with Renew Gold, but I have used both the Max E Glo bran (both the meal & pellet) and the Empower Boost. I had much better results with the Boost. We used it for weight gain and for a couple older horses. Filled in & rounded a 32 year old arab's back in no time. She eats Fuel now, which has the Boost in it. For my 25 year old I just added a cup to each feeding and he filled out nicely. I really liked it, but it was hit and miss on being able to get it at my feed store. They were out of it a lot and the local farm supply store never has any with a date on it within a year, its always old. So I switched to Envision from Progressive since I can always get it & I've been just as happy with that too. But I definitely recommend the Boost, it made a difference on all the horses we were feeding it to & some are still on it (I board, others buy their own). |
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Location: Texas | I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | geronabean - 2018-03-09 12:57 PM And then there is also ricebran oil...
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Location: Missouri | TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM
I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
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Location: WYOMING | cindyt - 2018-03-09 2:00 PM
geronabean - 2018-03-09 12:57 PM And then there is also ricebran oil...
oh just throw another one in there Gbean....
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Location: WYOMING | macariska - 2018-03-08 10:48 PM
Changing my horse over to a grain free diet. I'm looking at a fat source I can add a vitamin/mineral supplement to. Is there much difference between max e glo and renew gold? Which do you feed and prefer? Does one have an advantage over the other? I have access to both here for about the same price, only difference is the Max e Glo comes in a 40 lb bag instead of renew gold 30 lb. Thanks!!
I feed a mineral, alfalfa pellets, alfalfa hay, peanut hay and have used both products mentioned in your title. I honestly never saw a difference in my horses with using either product. Gonna give rice bran oil a try now.
My guess is either would meet your needs.
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Location: Arkansas | TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM
I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
So now you know you've gotta come back in so many weeks to let us know the outcome of your experiment, right?! Seriously interested in what you find out. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Chandler's Mom - 2018-03-09 9:36 PM
TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM
I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
So now you know you've gotta come back in so many weeks to let us know the outcome of your experiment, right?! Seriously interested in what you find out.
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Location: Oklahoma | TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM
I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
I think that every horse is different. and may not do well with a certain regime even tho same horse in the same pasture does well on it. Just a thought and personal experience. ;)) |
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Location: Texas | I will try to remember to come back and post results. Right now my horses are needing the oats with the rice bran. 1/2 lb whole oats amounts to a coffee cup, which is not a lot. But I will probably be able to back them off the oats soon now that the grasses are starting to come back. As someone mentioned earlier, each horse is different and I adjust as they need it.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
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| dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed. |
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Location: Willows, CA | cstone - 2018-06-24 9:54 PM
I feed Renew Gold, about 1/4 cup of Max E Glo and Alfalfa. Is this okay?
As long as the rice bran is properly stabilized, natural Glo, MaxE Glo or Satin Finish, it is fine to feed with Renew Gold. When feeding low energy hay, that would be a better option than adding any additional grain. |
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Location: Georgia | FLITASTIC - 2018-06-24 6:30 PM
dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed.
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dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed.
Curious. What difference does the Bermuda hay make?
Bermuda is a LOT harder for horses to digest. Probably why it tends to ball up and can cause impactions. The forco beefs up the system to break it down even better. |
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| Question regarding pure Rice Bran Oil, is this better than feeding Cocosoya? My tractor supply carries both, I already feed RG, but picked up cocosoya as well, I see the pure rice bran oil is $30/gall and 100% fat. I've never fed it so curious to those that do if you like? |
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Location: Willows, CA | Wild1 - 2018-06-25 6:12 PM
Question regarding pure Rice Bran Oil, is this better than feeding Cocosoya? My tractor supply carries both, I already feed RG, but picked up cocosoya as well, I see the pure rice bran oil is $30/gall and 100% fat. I've never fed it so curious to those that do if you like?
Cocosoya oil is a combination of Soybean oil and Coconut oil. There are several reasons that they are blended. First, Soybean oil is inexpensive and can make up the majority of the product while selling at a premium. Second, Coconut oil is a solid at room temp (72 degrees), so blending it can keep it in a mostly liquid form for ease of use, especially in cold weather. All the vegetable oils are 100% fat, and provide similar calories, about 2.25 times the calories found in the same amount of protein or carbohydrates. There are differences in other micronutrients found if various vegetable oils and these vary by the way that they are refined. Most commercial oils are solvent extracted and almost completely stripped of vitamins and other naturally occurring nutrients. Rice oil, if expeller extracted and unrefined, is full of good stuff. Coconut oil has very unique anti fungal and anti bacterial properties in its purest states. Some horses show sensitivities to Soybeans and may to Soybean oil. Almost all Soybean oil is solvent extracted, as is most corn oil. I do not use straight refined oil as a daily additive on top of the diets that I do. Your results may vary.
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| So Win, do you recommend using any oil in the diet? I use Bluebonnet Stride Shine. I give only a little bit to disguise any supplements. I have also been trying out the Hemp Seed Meal. I tried the Hemp Seed oil and they didn't go for that at all. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Sandok - 2018-06-26 9:15 AM
So Win, do you recommend using any oil in the diet? I use Bluebonnet Stride Shine. I give only a little bit to disguise any supplements. I have also been trying out the Hemp Seed Meal. I tried the Hemp Seed oil and they didn't go for that at all.
I typically do not use refined oils added on top of feed in any significant amount. A little is fine. I just don’t add a cup at a time. Hemp oil is interesting and my prove to add value depending on how it is refined, and how far that refinement goes. Hemp protein also shows potential value. Corn oil, soybean oil, are simply calorie sources, but almost all is solvent extracted which I would rather not use. |
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| Thanks Win. I take the Hemp Oil or CBD Oil myself and have seen amazing results. I am hoping that they will continue research on the Hemp for horses. So far I have just started my quest. I am hoping to have the same results on my horses as I have on me. But if you can't get a horse to eat it, it is not going to do much good. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets. The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | skye - 2018-06-26 11:06 PM
I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets. The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
Looking at that website, most of the posts are by Dr. Schell who also does Cur-ost products I believe. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Sandok - 2018-06-27 10:42 AM
I can't find where to order from them.
Are you referring to the hemp products?
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Location: Gainesville, TX | oija - 2018-06-27 10:17 AM
skye - 2018-06-26 11:06 PM
I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets. The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
Looking at that website, most of the posts are by Dr. Schell who also does Cur-ost products I believe.
My mistake. They just have an article by him. They are a different group. |
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Yes the hemp products.
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I don't Facebook so I need someone's website.
They don't have one, just the facebook page. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TBone - 2018-03-09 12:16 PM I just started a test: two horses on 3/4 lb Renew Gold + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day and the other two on 3/4 lb Max-E Glo + 1/2 lb whole oats twice per day. Interested in seeing if I notice a difference. Ends up being .30/day difference per horse. Just started this so no conclusions yet.
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Location: Willows, CA | Since I developed both products, the results are pretty predictable if enough horses are used for the test. Clearly, I am a big fan of Stabilized Rice Bran, it will not do what Renew Gold will do in most diets, but remains as effective as always in a diet designed around it. I would have left the oats out of bothe diets if the hay quality is good. Both are considerably superior to any grain based feed concentrate in a proper diet designed to utilize them. W |
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Location: CTX | I really like both. all 4 of ours get the Renew Gold, with alfalfa cubes, forco and are out on pastures. They get coastal also, since we only have a couple of acres. And I add rice bran to our thoroughbred mare that is a bit of a hard keeper and in foal right now. If I feel someone needs a bit more calories I add rice bran to their feed also. Don’t need a whole lot, just a couple of ounces a day which I like since I don’t want to pour a lot of lbs of feed to them. |
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Regular
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| I live in Texas and feed alfalfa, high quality coastal, and RG to my performance horses. Do I need to add minerals or a ration balancer? Thanks! |
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Expert
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Location: Willows, CA | For mature horses you should not need a ration balancer. Those are primarily protein support for low protein coastal hay or growing horses fed poor hay. Good quality coastal with some alfalfa in the program will take care of that fine without putting a bunch of soy and fillers in the diet. Most RG customers do not add a mineral package if hay quality is good. Good dental care, parasite control, salt and clean water should meet all needs with the diet mentioned. |
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