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| What stallions fit this ticket...????
MUST: Excellent hind end conformation is #1, but next wants would be good width, good bone and not over 15.2hh (and structurally sound elsewhere of course!)
MUST: Proven producer of pro and 1D offspring
Close 3rd: Proven in the barrel pen, preferably pro rodeo, but solid 1D will work
(Extra bonus: has proven winning crosses on daughters of MSM)
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Firewater Finale
Firewater Ta Fame (Stitch)
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| Do you know of Slick offspring that are already competing and winning at that level consistently?? I’d love to see those results!! |
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| MonTexan - 2018-03-11 11:43 AM
Do you know of Slick offspring that are already competing and winning at that level consistently?? I’d love to see those results!!
He only has a handful from that first crop, something like 7. But at least one is doing very well and his babies sure are lookers. HO Slick Chick won the No Bulls Futurity just a week or so ago. |
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| Slick just had his first Futurity winner this past week. He only has 4 from his first crop. 2 are money earners and one is a head horse money earner and the other is a super nice barrel horse but owner won't Futurity him. Will be running this year. You can see HP Slick Chicks winning run on Slicks FB page. His first big foal crop are 3 yr olds... |
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Location: Arizona | My first thought was Shawne Bug Leo. It would double up on the Lady Bugs Moon blood, but I've seen a few young horses advertised that are by SBL and out of MSM mares. Not sure if there are any winners yet? |
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| Whinny19 - 2018-03-11 7:34 PM
My first thought was Shawne Bug Leo. It would double up on the Lady Bugs Moon blood, but I've seen a few young horses advertised that are by SBL and out of MSM mares. Not sure if there are any winners yet?
Is he a 1D horse himself? That was part of the OP’s criteria, which made my list pretty short, lol! |
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Location: Arizona | SKM - 2018-03-13 1:01 AM
Whinny19 - 2018-03-11 7:34 PM
My first thought was Shawne Bug Leo. It would double up on the Lady Bugs Moon blood, but I've seen a few young horses advertised that are by SBL and out of MSM mares. Not sure if there are any winners yet?
Is he a 1D horse himself? That was part of the OP’s criteria, which made my list pretty short, lol!
Oh shoot, I missed that part! lol You're right, that does make the list shorter. Any others I can think of off hand are taller than 15.2 |
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| Epic Leader.
He has over $170k earnings of his own, plus his babies are really starting to win big, and he’s 15.1hh.
I believe Pete Oen bred an own daughter of MSM to him for either a 2015/2016 foal- that one should be up and coming in the barrel pen! FF website shows at least 3 Epic Leader x dtr of MSM foals born in 2016 that are enrolled, so hopefully they start making names for themselves in the next few years! |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | madredepeanut - 2018-03-12 7:55 AM
Epic Leader.
He has over $170k earnings of his own, plus his babies are really starting to win big, and he’s 15.1hh.
I believe Pete Oen bred an own daughter of MSM to him for either a 2015/2016 foal- that one should be up and coming in the barrel pen! FF website shows at least 3 Epic Leader x dtr of MSM foals born in 2016 that are enrolled, so hopefully they start making names for themselves in the next few years!
curious who he has that is winning "big"?
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| bccanchaser16 - 2018-03-12 7:45 AM
First Down French
I was going to suggest him as well. |
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Location: Arizona | stayceem - 2018-03-13 7:53 AMLions Share of Fame I thought of him too, but isn't he 16 hands? Edited to add: After Googling, all the ads I've seen listing his height have him at 15.2, so he fits the criteria as well! (I think maybe I was remembering his brother On A Gator being taller)
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| Whinny19 - 2018-03-12 10:59 AM
stayceem - 2018-03-13 7:53 AMLions Share of Fame I thought of him too, but isn't he 16 hands? Edited to add: After Googling, all the ads I've seen listing his height have him at 15.2, so he fits the criteria as well! (I think maybe I was remembering his brother On A Gator being taller)
I read it wrong lol. I thought over 15.2.
I would guess he is probably 15.3 but its been years since I have seen him. |
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| Whinny19 - 2018-03-11 7:34 PM
My first thought was Shawne Bug Leo. It would double up on the Lady Bugs Moon blood, but I've seen a few young horses advertised that are by SBL and out of MSM mares. Not sure if there are any winners yet?
There are winners, look up Bugs In My Kahlua (she's actually out of the mare I now own, that I'm asking about! SBL is on my list, but I wanted to see what else is out there)
She's being bred to Slick twice this year, but we are debating a third baby for her to carry, so that's why I'm asking! |
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| Here's another question... of these stallions:
First Down French
Frenchmans Fabulous
Traffic Guy
Dinero
Which fits my criteria best, #1 being the hind end conformation? |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | MonTexan - 2018-03-11 12:12 AM
What stallions fit this ticket...????
MUST: Excellent hind end conformation is #1, but next wants would be good width, good bone and not over 15.2hh (and structurally sound elsewhere of course!)
MUST: Proven producer of pro and 1D offspring
Close 3rd: Proven in the barrel pen, preferably pro rodeo, but solid 1D will work
(Extra bonus: has proven winning crosses on daughters of MSM)
Any suggestions?
Your best bet would be to look up the magic cross for daughters of Marthas Six Moons and narrow down from there if they are 1D/rodeo winners and sires...15.2 etc. |
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Location: Arizona | MonTexan - 2018-03-13 11:01 AM
Here's another question... of these stallions:
First Down French
Frenchmans Fabulous
Traffic Guy
Dinero
Which fits my criteria best, #1 being the hind end conformation?
Not having seen any in person, so just based on videos and pics available online I'd rank them conformationally: First Down French, Dinero (I like how his hindend ties into his back better than Fab), Frenchmans Fabulous (I do like Fab's head & neck better than Dinero's), then Traffic Guy. I just thought of Firewater Frenchman as well. Not proven himself, but does have proven offspring. I would prob rank him between Chopper & Dinero conformationally. |
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| I haven't seen any really good pics of Dinero (direct side shots especialLy) to be able to get a good idea of his whole body conformation! I need to dig some more and find some good conformation photos of all of them.
I'm pretty sure if all goes well, SBL is on the list next year for either an ET or the one she will carry, but I really think she will cross on the right Sun Frost/FG stud, too! Just have to decide on which would be the best cross. I don't plan on selling, so marketability is only a perk. |
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| Whinny19 - 2018-03-12 12:59 PM
MonTexan - 2018-03-13 11:01 AM
Here's another question... of these stallions:
First Down French
Frenchmans Fabulous
Traffic Guy
Dinero
Which fits my criteria best, #1 being the hind end conformation?
Not having seen any in person, so just based on videos and pics available online I'd rank them conformationally: First Down French, Dinero (I like how his hindend ties into his back better than Fab), Frenchmans Fabulous (I do like Fab's head & neck better than Dinero's), then Traffic Guy. I just thought of Firewater Frenchman as well. Not proven himself, but does have proven offspring. I would prob rank him between Chopper & Dinero conformationally.
This is exactly my response too. |
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| And what I have seen of Dinero, he has that trademark high tail set... I think my mare needs a stallion with more slope to his croup. Thoughts? |
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| 1DSoon - 2018-03-12 5:54 AM
madredepeanut - 2018-03-12 7:55 AM
Epic Leader.
He has over $170k earnings of his own, plus his babies are really starting to win big, and he’s 15.1hh.
I believe Pete Oen bred an own daughter of MSM to him for either a 2015/2016 foal- that one should be up and coming in the barrel pen! FF website shows at least 3 Epic Leader x dtr of MSM foals born in 2016 that are enrolled, so hopefully they start making names for themselves in the next few years!
curious who he has that is winning "big"?
So Epic
Epic Streak
Epic Too KS |
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Location: Arizona | I agree, there aren't many good conformation pics of Dinero out there. This is the best one I've come across: https://goo.gl/images/c8LhYJ |
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| Kassie Mowry is running 5 Epic Leaders this year -- Danyelle Campbell has one as does Hallie Hansen, Stephanie Duke and Brandon Cullins
His babies averaged $26K and they had a yearling bring $26,000 at the CSR sale |
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Discussion - Stallions to fit this criteria?