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Barrel Drills
rbandsarah
Reg. Apr 2018
Posted 2018-04-23 4:40 PM
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I was looking around on the forums and couldn't seem to find a post like this. (correct me if i'm wrong!) But I wanted to make a post where everyone could share drills that they have! Feel free to share any drills that you have and what they help with! :)
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-23 6:00 PM
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What type of drills are you looking for? What area are you needing to work on?  
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Marfan
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-24 8:42 AM
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-04-24 9:13 AM
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I'm not a " Drill-er" lol If you think about it, its extremely repetitive to a horse or anyone for that matter. I am a huge proponent of teaching the pattern OUTSIDE the arena. I have an almond orchard behind my house. 1000's of acres of trees. I have permission to ride there so I teach my colts all they need to know while navigating the trees. They don't get locked into a " Pattern" they have to listen to me. lol Mine know that when they finally do get to the arena, its business, and they crave it. They don't walk into the arena thinking " Great, I get to turn the same barrel I did 1000 times already" lol
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2018-04-24 9:26 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2018-04-24 9:13 AM

I'm not a " Drill-er" lol If you think about it, its extremely repetitive to a horse or anyone for that matter. I am a huge proponent of teaching the pattern OUTSIDE the arena. I have an almond orchard behind my house. 1000's of acres of trees. I have permission to ride there so I teach my colts all they need to know while navigating the trees. They don't get locked into a " Pattern" they have to listen to me. lol Mine know that when they finally do get to the arena, its business, and they crave it. They don't walk into the arena thinking " Great, I get to turn the same barrel I did 1000 times already" lol

This!^^ Only, I live in South Texas so I use the Mesquite brush and catclaw. Also just tracking cattle out in the pasture helps. However, it really peeves the ex-show hiefers!
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-04-24 10:27 AM
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I'm not a " Drill-er" lol If you think about it, its extremely repetitive to a horse or anyone for that matter. I am a huge proponent of teaching the pattern OUTSIDE the arena. I have an almond orchard behind my house. 1000's of acres of trees. I have permission to ride there so I teach my colts all they need to know while navigating the trees. They don't get locked into a " Pattern" they have to listen to me. lol Mine know that when they finally do get to the arena, its business, and they crave it. They don't walk into the arena thinking " Great, I get to turn the same barrel I did 1000 times already" lol

This!^^ Only, I live in South Texas so I use the Mesquite brush and catclaw. Also just tracking cattle out in the pasture helps. However, it really peeves the ex-show hiefers!

YUP..... and once mine are finished horses I pick and choose where I run and only run 1-2x a month " Normally" so mine all know that when I do ask them for a run, they lay it down.
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-04-24 11:04 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2018-04-24 10:13 AM I'm not a " Drill-er" lol If you think about it, its extremely repetitive to a horse or anyone for that matter. I am a huge proponent of teaching the pattern OUTSIDE the arena. I have an almond orchard behind my house. 1000's of acres of trees. I have permission to ride there so I teach my colts all they need to know while navigating the trees. They don't get locked into a " Pattern" they have to listen to me. lol Mine know that when they finally do get to the arena, its business, and they crave it. They don't walk into the arena thinking " Great, I get to turn the same barrel I did 1000 times already" lol

I do the same thing.  We have 3,000 acres of pecan trees here on the farm.  The smaller ones make great "poles".  I can do circles around the trees, etc. 

 
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2018-04-24 11:10 AM
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i think teaching correct body position and softness threw ribs and face. making sure the horse is broke before patterning them. last one i trained i did a lot more of the softness and body position before patterning and my tractor was broke and my ground was hard. i worked on hard ground and patterned her and in 30 days she was exhibitioning not fast but loping a nice set and second week looked like a barrel horse. everyone one was saying how nice my mare was. and the good thing is that is if we have a problem i have somewhere to go back to. i learned teaching the pattern is easy but loping a correct pattern is the hard part.
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CanCan
Reg. May 2004
Posted 2018-04-25 7:19 PM
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 Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
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Rough-up cowgirl
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2018-04-26 9:32 AM
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Jean winters showed me one that I use on all my horses. Pick a barrel, a bush a cone, it doesn matter. They need to go around the object with their head slightly tipped in, ribcage shapped and their inside hip up under them driving off the inside foot. I will give my 15 ish ft space around the object, needs to be an even cirle. Once they get it, they can finish out with a tighter turn to reinforce driving around the barrel. 
Go at every speed. Once they have a walk (usually easy) I move to a trot then a lope. There have been days on horses that want to be stiff that this is ALL I will work on. It helps keep them soft or teaches them to be soft if they are stiffer as well as working on correct body position and dirving off that inside back leg.
My baby 3 yr old took to this in no time the other night but she has a very good foundation. This will not make a horse hot. I usualy pick and object or barrel and get to work. I do not work the pattern like this however 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2018-04-26 9:46 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM

 Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.

nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill.
NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be.
This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-26 9:58 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.

I was not trying to do any impressing I was asking what type of drills was she looking to do, what was her problem areas if any.. Not pretentious asking a question is it? 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-04-26 10:17 AM
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 Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.

nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill.
NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be.
This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.

I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence. It was mentioned no tractor.... We rarely work our ground, like I said, some squirrel holes even.. Reason being is so many horses these days live on MANICURED , fluffy ground and if they ever have to run at a rodeo after a rain storm or hard nasty ground, they don't panic, they know what to do and get a check where some horses freak out. Chasing an onry cow off the side of a mountain having to navigate rocks, fences, and trees will teach one how to use their body way faster than loping circles for three hours. If your chasing a cow and have to head her off before she sells out on you and get in front of her, the horse will learn to break at the poll and rib cage, and use their hind end. If not, they crash and learn how not to crash next time. When you ask them to run a barrel pattern it is so easy for them, cake walk compared to what they are used to. And you absolutely do NOT need a perfect pattern to outrun someone and take their money. I love watching time onlys where someone spends 5 minutes loping circles and during the jackpot they make a BEAUTIFUL perfect run, about 4 seconds slower than everyone else... but it was " Pretty" .

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-26 10:23 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.

And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..
I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-04-26 10:25 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.

And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..
I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 

We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2018-04-26 11:13 AM
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 Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.

nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill.
NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be.
This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.

I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence. It was mentioned no tractor.... We rarely work our ground, like I said, some squirrel holes even.. Reason being is so many horses these days live on MANICURED , fluffy ground and if they ever have to run at a rodeo after a rain storm or hard nasty ground, they don't panic, they know what to do and get a check where some horses freak out. Chasing an onry cow off the side of a mountain having to navigate rocks, fences, and trees will teach one how to use their body way faster than loping circles for three hours. If your chasing a cow and have to head her off before she sells out on you and get in front of her, the horse will learn to break at the poll and rib cage, and use their hind end. If not, they crash and learn how not to crash next time. When you ask them to run a barrel pattern it is so easy for them, cake walk compared to what they are used to. And you absolutely do NOT need a perfect pattern to outrun someone and take their money. I love watching time onlys where someone spends 5 minutes loping circles and during the jackpot they make a BEAUTIFUL perfect run, about 4 seconds slower than everyone else... but it was " Pretty" .

Amen!
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-26 11:17 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.

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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2018-04-26 11:19 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.

And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..
I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 

We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.

Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-04-26 11:35 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.

And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..
I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 

We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.

Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.

True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-04-26 11:44 AM
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.

Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.

Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   

Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!

 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..
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I don't do a lot of drilling on the pattern - like others have said, mine get a lot of outside riding to keep fit and use their body. I have my barrels set up in the middle of the field, so I can come at them from any direction I choose. I'll often just pick one and get them moving good around it, then pick another to go to randomly. I want my horses listening to me - not just being auto pilot on a pattern. I'm libel to set up a bunch of barrels in random patterns and work all lefts or rights - or break down and ask for lead changes in between. Just getting a horse broke and listening - comfortable with being handled and changes in speed. I focus on shoulder up, hip under, and always moving around a barrel with me handling them as little as possible.

The only drill I will specifically do is the Figure 8 drill that ed wright taught. I think is helps with a horse being comfortable being handled around a barrel, with finishing turns, and with making a rider think about proper hand positioning and adjustments around a barrel. Jordan Briggs has a video on trainingbarrelhorses.com about it. I personally don't flatten one out at the 3/4 point of the turn like she does - I keep my turn more rounded and then ask for the step over, but its a good visual and explanation of the drill. Ed would teach the drill to 1) approach and complete the turn on the first with the horse flexed to the right 2) over finish the turn with the flex to the right -keep your horse moving - step over still flexed to the right and do a counter arc to the left (horse still flexed to the right) 3) end the counter arc in the spot where the horse is in position and flexed to be able to fluidly turn the barrel to the right again. I typically do the drill with only the inside hand on the rein, and it can be done at any speed on any barrel. Obviously only moving up in speed once things are correct at slower speeds.
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..

Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..
Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.

I have had those that were foo foo and pretty but would never attempt to run them on Rodeo ground.. I knew of alot of tough rodeo horses that can hold their own in and out of the arena. And knew a few bronc's {bucking horses} that were ranch horses too that could also run barrels and be a pick up horse as well, pretty tough animals.. And a few foo foo horses that could hold their own too in tough rodeo competition, but not many cause the owners did'nt want to risk them blowing a tendon..
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..

Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.

Ranch horses that clumsy wouldn’t last long here. Brahma influenced cattle necessitate a quick footed, quick thinking horse. Just sold one that sounds like the ones you described to a young girl wanting a ride down the road horse.
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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..
I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..
Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.
Ranch horses that clumsy wouldn’t last long here. Brahma influenced cattle necessitate a quick footed, quick thinking horse. Just sold one that sounds like the ones you described to a young girl wanting a ride down the road horse.
Amen, those would be considered dangerous to a cowboy/cowgirl.. So I would not consider those type of horses {clumsy} a true ranch horse. A true ranch horse is one that knows where to place feet at all times.. 

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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..
Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.
Ranch horses that clumsy wouldn’t last long here. Brahma influenced cattle necessitate a quick footed, quick thinking horse. Just sold one that sounds like the ones you described to a young girl wanting a ride down the road horse.
Amen, those would be considered dangerous to a cowboy/cowgirl.. So I would not consider those type of horses {clumsy} a true ranch horse. A true ranch horse is one that knows where to place feet at all times.. 

Lucky I follow my own thoughts than other people's opinions because one of those "clumsy" horses ended up winning money his whole career and was retired at 20 years old and he did win some rodeo money as long as I was picky where I ran him. Just out trail riding he trips all the time, but never had him fall with me once when running. My main point really was that the arena horses can still make rodeo horses and handle the crap ground.
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Posted 2018-04-28 11:01 AM
Subject: RE: Barrel Drills


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CanCan - 2018-04-25 7:19 PM  Y’all stop being pretentious. Every dang last one of you has a favorite barrel drill. Mine is squares. Google squares and Connie Combs.
nope, not being pretentious at all. I don't have much space for a good barrel pattern, don't have an arena and absolutely hate riding in circles. Circling a mesquite bush or catclaw really helps not having to fight the shoulder falling in and when you have 2 mesquites close together, that helps with the rear drifting out if they don't want to listen to your leg. Following a ****ed off cow trying to get to her friends teaches them to use their body even at the slow pace of a fat ex show heifer who is seriously offended you are treating her like a regular cow. Picking a fence post off in the distance to ride to really does help with straightness and riding directly at a fence/tree and asking them to move laterally to avoid running into it works wonders too. I find all these help with MY focus which can be very suspect if I am just doing a drill. NOTE I am not a professional, either and never was or will be. This is just what has worked for me competing in Texas ammy rodeos and jackpots, but a lady who was a multiple times champion in many rodeo events taught me this.
I'm 100% with you GLP and my mom went to the NFR 6x doing much of what you describe, just different scenery! LOL Other thing we reinforce is get the heck out of an arena. The barrel pattern we do have is set up in a HUGE outside field with ZERO FENCES and the barrels are about 200' apart on uneven ground, some squirrel holes etc. lol Teaches a horse to look for a barrel not a fence.
And not to step in a squirrel hole while running barrels, lol..

I used Orange trees in our Orchards when I lived in the Valley..
 
We obviously won't intentionally cripple one in a squirrel hole but you would be amazed how light on their feet a horse can be chasing a mad heifer through a field of squirrel holes. lol They learn where to put their feet to get the job done.
Yep, good ole proprioception, which is lost on horses who are worked only on carefully chosen good ground. My last horse I bought had very little proprioception because of this. I finally just turned him out in the brush full time to learn how to travel in nature. He is such a careful horse that it took awhile for him to get comfortable.
True, and this is why I think we have " Jackpot" horses and " Rodeo" horses. Good NFR rodeo horses do not always win the 1D or even place in the 1D sometimes at jackpots where the ground is perfectly manicured and raked every 5. Rodeo horses are the ones that can still run at Calgary under 3 foot of water at the first barrel and get er done! I have seen some " Pretty" manicured horses with beautiful manes and tails try and navigate a rodeo pen. its kind of funny.
Most of the really true Rodeo horses that I have ever been around are ranch horses too, they have a job outside of the arena..And its not to look pretty, lol..   
Ha! I was thinking the very same thing!
 Yep a true rodeo horse knows how to take care of themselves on any kind of trashy ground cause being a ranch horse is not a easy job.. LOL.. You understand since you have a rodeo background, not a cushy job, lol..
Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but my best rodeo ground horses were my arena/stall babies that were trained in other disciplines so were always kept and ridden in good ground. I have two that were born and raised (one in Montana and one in Wyoming) out in pastures and both were sent for training where they had to do ranch work, climb hills, deal with ice & snow and work on cement at the stockyards - both are the clumsiest and struggle to handle harder or uneven ground. I would never think of running these two on rodeo ground. Finally had to send one to a cutting trainer to learn how the hell to figure out where his feet were and he's better, but still has his struggles.  Just sayin' - don't make too much fun of those pretty foo-foo horses.
Ranch horses that clumsy wouldn’t last long here. Brahma influenced cattle necessitate a quick footed, quick thinking horse. Just sold one that sounds like the ones you described to a young girl wanting a ride down the road horse.
Amen, those would be considered dangerous to a cowboy/cowgirl.. So I would not consider those type of horses {clumsy} a true ranch horse. A true ranch horse is one that knows where to place feet at all times.. 

Lucky I follow my own thoughts than other people's opinions because one of those "clumsy" horses ended up winning money his whole career and was retired at 20 years old and he did win some rodeo money as long as I was picky where I ran him. Just out trail riding he trips all the time, but never had him fall with me once when running. My main point really was that the arena horses can still make rodeo horses and handle the crap ground.

First off we weren’t making fun of the horses that only train on good ground, rather I was defending myself after being called pretentious because I don’t really do “barrel” drills but instead use my natural resources. I realize I am lucky there.
Secondly, I agree you can’t pigeon hole horses, the good ones come from all different backgrounds, but speaking generally, the horses that grow up in natural settings usually do handle bad ground better.
Thirdly, it is great you gave the “clumsy” horse a chance in the arena, but I bet it is a matter of boredom rather than clumsiness with him. Some horses just don’t pay attention to their feet if they think they don’t need to.
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