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| So I know every person usually has problems with the second barrel but the first is mine. I can go around at a trot and a slow canter but when I get to a run, my mare just stickes her head out and refuses to turn around the back. Any advice or drills? Also, any drills for shouldering in? She is pushing herself in too much and I have to move my leg up to avoid the barrel. Thanks! |
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| Slowly work up speed. Don't go any faster than what you have control of. |
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| Has she been vetted sound?
Speed can bring out all kinds of things, as can the adrenaline of running. I have one who would work/run great at home, but combined with the adrenaline/speed/pressure of a jackpot would lose his marbles. Turns out he had kissing spines. |
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Location: Louisiana | Look up some of Paul Humphrey's drills on FB...
My colt was doing the same and I took him to a clinic and fixed it all...it was ALL how I was riding him on and off the pattern.
He had us ride really collected, driving from the rear. We also did a lot of square drills off the pattern, really freeing up their shoulder and teaching them to move it around. He also encourages contact with the outside rein, not just pulling with the inside - that was causing mine to drift off the backside and crossfire in his hind.
I'm going to my second clinic next weekend (his next level) to continue with this colt, that's how much I loved it...I thought the issue was the horse wasn't broke enough - nope, I wasn't used to riding one that broke HAHA.
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| I will have a vet out in a month so I will have them check her soundness, I never thought of that. And I will definitely have to check out Paul. I see he is coming to Washington so I might have to do that. Thanks! Any other advice is greatly appreciated |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Just from your description she's trying to cut in too soon and then it's making it impossible for herself to gather up under her body for a quick turn in the back. I agree with soundness, soreness, and checking everything out; but do you have a video that we could watch possibly? |
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| I don have any videos at the moment but I am going up this weekend and I will try and get someone to record me. |
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| Videos would be helpful. Could be lots of things.
Too much or too little pocket. (based on cutting in on back side, too much.)
Could be your body position causing her to try to keep under you.
Could be soreness.
Could be saddle fit.
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Location: Arizona | How is she refusing? Is she turning wide, cutting in, or running past it? Also, try watching some videos from www.trainingbarrelhorses.com. They have some great drills on this website. |
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Location: North Dakota | Videos would be helpful.
It could be a training issue or it could be a pain issue. It never hurts to have a lameness evaluation done just to be sure.
What if you run the pattern the other way? If the horse has a good first barrel, but BOTH the second and third barrel are bad, then it's much more likely to pain when the horse turns to the right. If the horse only has a "bad" second barrel running the opposite way, then it's more likely a training problem and not pain.
If she's shouldering in too soon, my first guess is training. (But then again you said she doesn't want to turn on the backside and that could be pain.) Make sure you are using your inside leg to hold her or push her off the barrel if you need to.
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| I run her to the right due to the fact that she is a 20 yr old OTTB and has a much better turn to the left. She is trying to cut in but I can get some pocket. And she refuses to turn around the backside and pulls away and I don´t want to pull her neck over really hard, causing her to mouth gape. |
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Born not Made
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Location: North Dakota | NorwegienPower - 2018-05-11 11:41 AM I run her to the right due to the fact that she is a 20 yr old OTTB and has a much better turn to the left. She is trying to cut in but I can get some pocket. And she refuses to turn around the backside and pulls away and I don´t want to pull her neck over really hard, causing her to mouth gape.
When my gelding's left hock was bothering him (fusing), he started to not want to turn on the backside of the first (right) barrel. Second and third barrels were fine. Injected him and he was back to his old self and turning nice.
I think you need to have a lameness vet check your horse. I wouldn't work her on the barrels until she's checked out.
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