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Location: Somewhere around here | Any tips on strengthening his body? My horse yesterday was wanting to crossfire when we were loping straight lines and asking him to go into a slow lope. I fixed it by asking him to keep his hip in right after he cross fired and after a few times he got the idea and quit but other than that what else can I do? He's just a turkey butt sometimes, not poorly trained, and he's actually in the best physical shape he has been in years, but our recent dressage training has gotten him a little mixed up. |
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Location: North Dakota | Yup, just make him keep that hip in the correct position. Repetition and time, also help! |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | If you are sure there is no pain there... I know mine does it cause he feel THAT good... that he hates slow work lol |
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Location: Arizona | Horses tend to be lazy, just keep asking and keep making him to do it... |
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| cecollins0811 - 2018-05-17 7:40 AM
Any tips on strengthening his body? My horse yesterday was wanting to crossfire when we were loping straight lines and asking him to go into a slow lope. I fixed it by asking him to keep his hip in right after he cross fired and after a few times he got the idea and quit but other than that what else can I do? He's just a turkey butt sometimes, not poorly trained, and he's actually in the best physical shape he has been in years, but our recent dressage training has gotten him a little mixed up.
STOP DRESSAGE TRAINING ... |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I have a very lazy minded horse that will cross fire if you let him. It’s annoying but if you consciously cue him and remind him, he won’t. If you just ask for a canter with no “help” he will crossfire. He never crossfire’s during a run though so I’ve always just chalked it up to him being lazy. He’s the type of horse that just always wants to see what he can get away with. |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | What would dressage training have to do with crossfiring? We canter on straight lines all the time and our horses don't crossfire. I'd be more inclined to think he may be in pain or whatever cues you are now learning you are confusing him in the straight lines. |
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| Tilt The Kilt - 2018-05-22 9:19 AM
What would dressage training have to do with crossfiring? We canter on straight lines all the time and our horses don't crossfire. I'd be more inclined to think he may be in pain or whatever cues you are now learning you are confusing him in the straight lines.
This is what I was thinking, too. I did dressage while competing in college rodeos and open rodeos when I was younger. My horse was 15 when I first introduced him to dressage. All it did was improve our 1st barrel tremendously and I was able to go from a correction bit to a gag bit to run in.
Pain is what I am thinking, too. Why else would a well broke horse suddenly start cross firing? He is uncomfortable somewhere, I would think. However, I am not a vet. |
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Location: North Dakota | Tilt The Kilt - 2018-05-22 9:19 AM What would dressage training have to do with crossfiring? We canter on straight lines all the time and our horses don't crossfire. I'd be more inclined to think he may be in pain or whatever cues you are now learning you are confusing him in the straight lines.
My guess is the OP's horse is thinking she is about to cue him to do something different when on the straight line, since they've been doing some dressage stuff, and he's swapping with his hind in anticipation of whatever he thinks he's supposed to be doing.
My horses sometimes do the same thing (for example) if I have been working on flying lead changes on a straight line (for reining). If they think I'm going to ask them to change (even though I'm not) sometimes they anticipate.
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Location: Somewhere around here | r_beau - 2018-05-22 8:55 AM
Tilt The Kilt - 2018-05-22 9:19 AM What would dressage training have to do with crossfiring? We canter on straight lines all the time and our horses don't crossfire. I'd be more inclined to think he may be in pain or whatever cues you are now learning you are confusing him in the straight lines.
My guess is the OP's horse is thinking she is about to cue him to do something different when on the straight line, since they've been doing some dressage stuff, and he's swapping with his hind in anticipation of whatever he thinks he's supposed to be doing.
My horses sometimes do the same thing (for example) if I have been working on flying lead changes on a straight line (for reining). If they think I'm going to ask them to change (even though I'm not) sometimes they anticipate.
This right here. We haven't been working on simple dressage moves; more like flying lead changes, and half passes at a canter. Doing these has helped him understand me asking him to keep his hip underneath himself at a barrel because he tends to get front end if I don't ride him correctly.
Since posting this we haven't had any solid dressage work and just worked on loping circles slower, then faster, then bringing him back slower. He's improved a ton just from a few arena rides and I believe switching to his No Hit Bit helped be a little more relaxed, so that helped as well. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Cross firing mostly means pain is going on somewhere, I have one that will cross fire when he needs a Chiro to visit him. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Had our local friend chiro check him out yesterday and he said he's doing fine, actually looks like he's in the best shape he's ever been, from what he's seen in the past.
The more large circle work I do the better he's getting. So thanks ever, but I think we got it figured out. |
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Horse cross firing when slowing down