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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | I've bought a bottle to try this on my gelding. But when I gave him the dose with the syringe it looked like half of it fell out when he opened his mouth... dork.... so my question is, can I topdress this and would it have the same results??
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | What is it. |
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Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | It is a supplement to help his tummy during stressful times. I noticed he started to yawn when I want to put his headstall on before we run, so I tought this might help him. He doesn't show any signs of ulcers, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have them. Was going to try a bottle to see if it helps. But if he spits out half of it every time it's going to be a very expensive trial period.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | it's mostly corn oil and sugar, so I don't see why you couldn't top dress.
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Location: North Dakota | I have friends that have had great luck with Zesterra but I am kind of having a hard time figuring out why it works? What in the ingredients makes it such a great product to calm the stomach? Is it just the collodial silver? If that's the case wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy straight silver? |
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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| Just Bring It - 2018-06-10 4:24 PM
I have friends that have had great luck with Zesterra but I am kind of having a hard time figuring out why it works? What in the ingredients makes it such a great product to calm the stomach? Is it just the collodial silver? If that's the case wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy straight silver?
I was wondering the same thing. It has corn oil in it. I don't get how the ingredients make it do what it says it does. Lol |
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Location: In my own little world | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-06-10 10:26 PM
Just Bring It - 2018-06-10 4:24 PM
I have friends that have had great luck with Zesterra but I am kind of having a hard time figuring out why it works? What in the ingredients makes it such a great product to calm the stomach? Is it just the collodial silver? If that's the case wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy straight silver?
I was wondering the same thing. It has corn oil in it. I don't get how the ingredients make it do what it says it does. Lol
All the ingredients together form a colloid, which means they are equally dispersed in the liquid and there is no separation. So together all the ingredients in Zesterra collectively work balancing the pH in the gut for a healthy gut. Products like the omeprozoles, etc kill all flora in the gut, both good and bad. As with any product, what works well for some horses may not work for others. I have seen great improvements in behavior on several horses on Zesterra. That tells me their stomachs are working efficiently and a happy gut is usually a happy horse. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Does it get stains out also?
BTW, that's not at all how Omeprozole works.
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Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | You are correct, what works for 1 horse might now work for another.
I know I'll be wasting money if I try to give it with the syringe, so I will just topdress and see if it works. At least I know he will get the whole dose then.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ropenrun - 2018-06-10 11:59 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-06-10 10:26 PM
Just Bring It - 2018-06-10 4:24 PM
I have friends that have had great luck with Zesterra but I am kind of having a hard time figuring out why it works? What in the ingredients makes it such a great product to calm the stomach? Is it just the collodial silver? If that's the case wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy straight silver?
I was wondering the same thing. It has corn oil in it. I don't get how the ingredients make it do what it says it does. Lol
All the ingredients together form a colloid, which means they are equally dispersed in the liquid and there is no separation. So together all the ingredients in Zesterra collectively work balancing the pH in the gut for a healthy gut. Products like the omeprozoles, etc kill all flora in the gut, both good and bad. As with any product, what works well for some horses may not work for others. I have seen great improvements in behavior on several horses on Zesterra. That tells me their stomachs are working efficiently and a happy gut is usually a happy horse.
I don’t know where you got the idea that omeprazole “kills all gut flora”, but it’s just not true. In fact, if anything, proton pump inhibitors like omeprazole are actually associated with an overgrowth of GI pathogens that can cause diarrhea, at least in humans......C difficle and Salmonella are two examples. It’s not very common, but it can happen. One thing for sure is that it doesn’t kill all gut flora.
I don’t know how zesterra works, but I’m certain the colloidal silver is attractive to some. I won’t go there. |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-06-10 11:26 PM
Just Bring It - 2018-06-10 4:24 PM
I have friends that have had great luck with Zesterra but I am kind of having a hard time figuring out why it works? What in the ingredients makes it such a great product to calm the stomach? Is it just the collodial silver? If that's the case wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy straight silver?
I was wondering the same thing. It has corn oil in it. I don't get how the ingredients make it do what it says it does. Lol
I have been wondering as well. I mean onion is technically toxic and can cause damage to red blood cells and make them anemic over time. I realize they only get a small amount but have been curious because I guess people use garlic a lot and it is same family with same toxic possibilities. I am no expert on that but just read up and talked with some vets about it.
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Location: Missouri | I use it before I haul. It was explained to me that it reduces acid produced by stress. I was told that 2 hours into trailering your horse starts to have acid reflux, if that's even a thing in horses. Mine seem to do well with it and are quiet at the trailer when I arrive somewhere, however my hauling partner's horse doesn't respond to it at all and is still a idiot. Could be the horse is just an idiot? LOL
I first used it on a colt that had been hauled, but not exhibitioned and once I started exhibitioning him, he was more nervous when we got somewhere. Once I started using it, he wasn't. Could be he just got used to being entered? Could be it works? I don't know, but it doesn't hurt so why not. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Its voodoo and witch craft. Having said that my little mare with kidney stones who also had a bladder stone we had removed was fighting bladder infection after bladder infection, had been on SMZ's, then after 3 days off would come right back, had to have a round of Excede, 3 days later there was still quite a bit of gunk in her urine. Started her on the Zesterra because of the collodial silver in it hoping for something, anything. That was end of September 2016 I believe. She gained 60-70 lbs in about 3 weeks and (knock on wood) hasn't had a bladder infection since. I use it on all my horses when we travel, when the weather has a big swing, those chilly winter days when I'm worried about water consumption, very warm days and after I deworm. |
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Location: NE TX | Mine was also spitting half of it out too but i just started raising her head and keeping it there for a few seconds and forcing her to swallow and she didn't seem to waste as much. Now if it would only work on electrolyte pastes (she HATES them and REFUSES to swallow them) life would be great! |
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| Reading the ingredients the colloidal silver is the "working" ingredient. I think you can save money to just buy colloidal silver and administer. Omeprazole will deplete magnesium from a horse over long term use so you need to supplement magnesium and I like to use probiotics too.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | quickdraw - 2018-06-12 1:49 PM
Reading the ingredients the colloidal silver is the "working" ingredient. I think you can save money to just buy colloidal silver and administer. Omeprazole will deplete magnesium from a horse over long term use so you need to supplement magnesium and I like to use probiotics too.
This is true. Omeprazole can cause low magnesium. It also can cause B12 deficiency, so you need to keep that in mind if you are using omeprazole for any length of time. |
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