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| I love looking at prime equine real estate. Clinton Anderson's and Chis Cox's ranches are for sale currently. Wonder where they are relocating? Downsizing? Anyways...links below.
https://www.landsofamerica.com/property/13635-FM-3025-Stephenville-Texas-76401/5628581?forceBrowser=0
https://coalson.com/170-acres-chris-cox-horsemanship-facility-peadenville-palo-pinto-county-texas
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | I'm surprised it took this long for them to run CA out of town.
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Location: Bandera, TX | Chris bought another ranch near Mineral Wells, TX. |
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| It's gross that so many people give these guys their money that they can build such gaudy facilities when there are true horsemen all over the country that are just getting by. A slick tongue is better than talent. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Meep.Meep - 2018-06-19 3:02 PM It's gross that so many people give these guys their money that they can build such gaudy facilities when there are true horsemen all over the country that are just getting by. A slick tongue is better than talent.
yeah,,,,,,,,,,,capitalism sucks
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Location: Kansas | I'm about six zeros short of being able to buy either one of them. 
Darn it !! I was so looking forward to the mowing. |
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| Really...no granite in the laundry room. Shortcuts! |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-06-19 2:31 PM Really...no granite in the laundry room. Shortcuts!
HAAAHA! |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| scwebster - 2018-06-19 2:54 PM Whiteboy - 2018-06-19 2:31 PM Really...no granite in the laundry room. Shortcuts! HAAAHA!
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Location: South Dakota | I do like Chris Cox's methods, and enjoy his show. There is also the Triangle C Ranch in Wyoming, where they go for the summer months. |
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Location: Willows, CA | I have done some events with Chris and like him. Anderson, not so much. |
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Location: Illinois | When I was loping for a cutter in TX probably 10 years ago Clinton stopped by with some colts to ride. He and my boss were buddies and a lot of people would come over and ride with us. Anyway, I was never a big Clinton fan but I definitely learned a lot. He had a much different personality when it was just us doing our thing on some 2 year olds. I would have never guessed he was a famous trainer if I hadn't already been aware of who he was. I appreciated getting to learn from him & I was getting paid to do it! Lol. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on them as trainers, doesn't mean they're crap. I think they're good at what they do, are the perfect? No, but all trainers have their pros and cons and it takes a special person to be able to do what they do on such a large scale like that. As for their places, they're two very nice, well thought out facilities and I would feel honored to own either one of them regardless of who they were built by. |
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Texas Taco
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Location: Bandera, TX | https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnCuW6qZX2g&feature=youtu.be |
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Location: Claremore, OK |
I don’t know about CA but Chris and Barbara bought a place a little bit north and east of their original place in Mineral Wells. It’s off the beaten path and is a beautiful piece of land. A couple of years ago when I was there they were just running cattle on it but had just graded off a place for the indoor arena. |
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Location: N Texas | Meep.Meep - 2018-06-19 2:02 PM
It's gross that so many people give these guys their money that they can build such gaudy facilities when there are true horsemen all over the country that are just getting by. A slick tongue is better than talent.
So if any of these great horsemen you're speaking about suddenly had the same good fortune as Chris and Clinton, and people started paying them so much money that they could build muli-million dollar facilities, you'd be ok with that? But not ok with Chris and Clinton doing it?
They didn't get to where they are by sucking at what they do. |
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| Gunner11 - 2018-06-20 11:21 AM
Meep.Meep - 2018-06-19 2:02 PM
It's gross that so many people give these guys their money that they can build such gaudy facilities when there are true horsemen all over the country that are just getting by. A slick tongue is better than talent.
So if any of these great horsemen you're speaking about suddenly had the same good fortune as Chris and Clinton, and people started paying them so much money that they could build muli-million dollar facilities, you'd be ok with that? But not ok with Chris and Clinton doing it?
They didn't get to where they are by sucking at what they do.
Nope, because the real horsemen out there don't sucker people out of their money by smooth talking them and selling them a bunch of stuff that they don't need or that is ridiculously over priced because it has their brand on it. They are real, humble, and I guess that's why they'll never be rich. "Good fortune" is being able to sucker people into their programs. There are many before and there will be many after these two guys that are great, if not greater, horsemen than them. |
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| clinton no so popular with some of east coast reiners that he has some business dealings with. i have some pretty big reiner friends his name comes up frequently. he is not loved by his fellow reiners. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | Meep.Meep - 2018-06-20 10:26 AM Gunner11 - 2018-06-20 11:21 AM Meep.Meep - 2018-06-19 2:02 PM It's gross that so many people give these guys their money that they can build such gaudy facilities when there are true horsemen all over the country that are just getting by. A slick tongue is better than talent. So if any of these great horsemen you're speaking about suddenly had the same good fortune as Chris and Clinton, and people started paying them so much money that they could build muli-million dollar facilities, you'd be ok with that? But not ok with Chris and Clinton doing it? They didn't get to where they are by sucking at what they do. Nope, because the real horsemen out there don't sucker people out of their money by smooth talking them and selling them a bunch of stuff that they don't need or that is ridiculously over priced because it has their brand on it. They are real, humble, and I guess that's why they'll never be rich. "Good fortune" is being able to sucker people into their programs. There are many before and there will be many after these two guys that are great, if not greater, horsemen than them.
well he couldn't sell his items if there wasn't any demand........ I don't care how people make a living or how much they make........As long as I'm not supporting them with my hard earned tax dollars......................we can thank Obama for creating that |
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Location: TN | I went to one of CA's clinics when he first started. Very informative and got a lot out of it. You couldn't pay me to go to one today. He has changed a lot. More about making money than helping people with their horses. |
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| JMO but I have a great reputation for the babies I sell and all the groundwork I teach my colts is my best attempt at following the CA Method. I swear by CA’s halters and my horses are all extremely respectful because those halters get their attention. I used Blocker Tie Rings before CA and Im a Ritchie fountain user since the 80’s. His lunge lines are worth buying and the HandiStick & string are staples in my tack room. I use what I bought from him and wish him great success with whatever his future brings. He’s a bit arrogant & rude but I learned in spite of that! Lol |
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| As with just about any genre of business where people start off the low man and end up rich/famous I think they start out being genuine and really wanting to make a difference but as the money starts pouring in it becomes their livelihood and survival and greed take over. I see it happen all the time especially in the "let me help you" industry. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | SilverCanChaser - 2018-06-21 12:02 AM
JMO but I have a great reputation for the babies I sell and all the groundwork I teach my colts is my best attempt at following the CA Method. I swear by CA’s halters and my horses are all extremely respectful because those halters get their attention. I used Blocker Tie Rings before CA and Im a Ritchie fountain user since the 80’s. His lunge lines are worth buying and the HandiStick & string are staples in my tack room. I use what I bought from him and wish him great success with whatever his future brings. He’s a bit arrogant & rude but I learned in spite of that! Lol
Same here - love and use his tie-rings, halters, lines and stick. My horses are respectful with great manners. His methods work and develop safe and respectful horses. He is who he is -- and I respect him for the fact he built his business from nothing to what it is today -- you do not do that without hard work and dedication. His personality is brusque, no doubt. I, too, wish him success in his future focusing on his performance horses. His stallion, Titan, is a super nice reiner and proving himself in the pen as such -- and a major breeder just became a partner with Clinton on Titan. This is something CA has always talked about -- moving more toward his own riding / performance horses and he is doing it. |
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| Say what you will about him ..... Nothing in this world is better than a C.A. rant about welfare cheque cashing horses... Nothing.
And its also not his fault if other people are running business that are not profitable .... |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | SilverCanChaser - 2018-06-21 12:02 AM
JMO but I have a great reputation for the babies I sell and all the groundwork I teach my colts is my best attempt at following the CA Method. I swear by CA’s halters and my horses are all extremely respectful because those halters get their attention. I used Blocker Tie Rings before CA and Im a Ritchie fountain user since the 80’s. His lunge lines are worth buying and the HandiStick & string are staples in my tack room. I use what I bought from him and wish him great success with whatever his future brings. He’s a bit arrogant & rude but I learned in spite of that! Lol
THIS!!!!
We too follow his methods fairly closely and have since had wonderfully respectful colts--and have made a huge difference in the few outside horses that we take in. They respect your space, are easy to catch, easy to teach because they think before they react. I took my yearling on her first real trailer ride to the arena for the first time. It's next to train tracks and right off the bat we had two freight trains come by--and they have to honk due to the proximity of the intersection. You'd have thought she had seen it a million times. Got home in the dark and I tripped over one of my kids toys on our walk back to her pen. She flinched a little bit at my trip (and possibly my cussing) but never broke her stride or pulled on her rope.
We took my mom's gigantic, ill mannered/spoiled two year old app gelding to start this spring. Only had him a couple of weeks. He's Goer bred and they are notoriously goofy--they hear voices, LOL. Mom could not believe how different he was when he came home.
Personally, I like that he doesn't sugar coat ****. He's real, and he's unafraid to hurt feelings or to discipline and tell others that they should do it too. His products work, plain and simple. He's figured out how to MARKET it, and I don't begrudge him for that. That part is no different than any other successful self promoter in any business.
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Location: N Texas | della - 2018-06-22 7:41 AM
Say what you will about him ..... Nothing in this world is better than a C.A. rant about welfare cheque cashing horses... Nothing.
And its also not his fault if other people are running business that are not profitable ....
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| His "methods" have been around and used by many before him. YES they work, there is no arguing that. But he didn't invent the "method". He just found a way to sell it and make multi-millions. The halter, the tie ring, the stick and string, all good tools that you can get or make for a lot cheaper than what he sells them for. More power to anyone that has that much disposable income, maybe I am just chintzy. |
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Location: Way up North | The company I was with before sponsored Chirs a few years ago and I met him when we were there shooting for the segment. At that time he was building his new place and said when it was ready he would be selling the current one. Old one is right off a busy highway and there was a fair amount of noise from traffic he didn't like and space was a bit limited for what he does. He wanted somewhere more private and said he wanted to design and build his own facility set up the way he wanted it to be. If I had his kind of cash flow I would want to do the same. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | I used some of his ground methods, mostly the ones in the round pen, on a horse I had that was only halter broke when I got her. |
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