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Location: Northern Ontario | So I bought a pozzi pro wide! Yay me! I love it
I tried a pozzi standard fit on rolly, who is 3, and I had to use a thinner 1/2-3/4 inch pad and it fit perfect! So i was going to buy a standard tree but he is only 3 so I decided to get a wide instead(I didnt have any friends who had a wide I could try). I thought I could pad it with my 1 1/4" 5star that I use with my 8" gullet cactus charmayne james saddle( this saddle fits him well, but i needed a smaller and deeper seat for me.) I find the pozzi wide still a wee bit too wide.... I dont like to shim saddles, but with a thin shim, it should be good. Rolly is pretty big....he is 15.3hh right now and still looks lanky and out of proportion because of his growth spurts.....all the feed I am putting into him is going into growing. See pic below for the difference in 4 short months. So he will start getting wider at some point....his full siblings are pretty thick. So what should i do with my lovely pozzi wide? Shim it and ride in it til he grows into it or ???? I dont know.....
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Location: South Georgia | Hard to say without pics with the saddle on, but if its pretty close to fitting, I'd use a thicker pad and shim it to buy you some time. |
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Location: Northern Ontario | here are pics
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Location: North Dakota | Was she standing straight when you took the pictures? Her left side looks pretty good but then it looks like it's digging in (too wide of bar angle) on her right side.
The bar angle isn't too bad but I think your gullet is too wide. The saddle is sitting downhill. With that said, I would NOT use a super thick pad. I'd use a normal pad and then shim it, for the time being, since she's only 3 and will fill out. And that will help the saddle to sit less downhill.
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| I kind of compare it to buying shoes for your first grader. If you buy shoes a couple of sizes too big for them when school starts and have them wear several pairs of socks then you probably won't have to buy shoes till the end of the year unless they wear out. |
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| streakysox - 2018-06-26 1:57 PM
I kind of compare it to buying shoes for your first grader. If you buy shoes a couple of sizes too big for them when school starts and have them wear several pairs of socks then you probably won't have to buy shoes till the end of the year unless they wear out.
I guess that’s an option? Unless several pairs of socks give them blisters and cause them to trip and fall because the shoe is still too big? Or they just don’t like always having sweaty feet.
I’m looking at the fit thinking you can probably try a shim in the front to see how that works, but man that’s already a lot of padding. My personally preference is to be a minimalist when it comes to padding, I like close contact and to feel like I’m down on the horse instead of riding above them. We rope in pads this thick and it’s night and day difference in my ability to use my seat as a cue - which I think is important on a young horse.
But I also feel your pain having just bought a saddle for my colt because he beefed up way faster than we thought he would and outgrew my other one. He’ll likely need to go to their wide tree at some point too. |
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Location: North Dakota | I have a hard time buying a saddle for a 3 year old, because you KNOW they are going to change. I think your saddle will probably be acceptable as the horse grows and changes, IMO.
Think of it this way: If you send your horse to a trainer for 90 days or longer, (or maybe one that spends a year or two with a futurity trainer) the trainer is NOT buying a saddle for each horse. They're going to use what they have. Most horses are usually just fine. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would use the standard Pozzi on this horse untill he gets older and fills out more to where you can use the wide on him if he ever needs it, I have a Pozzi wide I use on my gelding that is thick threw his shoulders and I use a 1/2 inch thick 5 star with this saddle.. Since you were saying the standard with a 1/2 or 2/3 pad works good on him I would just use this set up.. I would not want my saddle moving around on him which I'm pretty sure the wide does, your horse dont look thick enough for a wide. Save your lovely Pozzi for later.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | This is the gelding I use the Pozzi wide on.
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Location: Northern Ontario | Hmmm....I will try a thinner pad with a shim and if that doesnt work, I'll keep riding him in my cactus til he fills out. I pretty sure it will eventually fit(hopefully next year) the standard was a perfect, perfect fit with an impact gel so he woulf have probably grown out of it by fall  |
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| A friend of mine duct taped shims onto the underneath of the saddle to fill in all the gaps on the horse, the shims stayed in place, the saddle fit the horse, and when she was no longer riding the horse she removed the duct tape. |
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Location: Arizona | I agree with the other posters, shim it for now.... |
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Location: Texas | The saddle looks too wide. This horse may eventually grow into it, but shimming is not the answer. Applying pressure to muscles that are not properly functioning, keeps them from functioning. That is why we at Saddleright never shim. |
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Location: Northern Ontario | This is with a thinner pad and a small shim. I think it works well :)
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Location: Georgia | SuperTrooper - 2018-06-28 12:30 PM
This is with a thinner pad and a small shim. I think it works well :)
I pull my shims all the way up to the front of the saddle so it doesnt cause a pressure point. But maybe im doing it wrong  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SuperTrooper - 2018-06-28 11:30 AM This is with a thinner pad and a small shim. I think it works well :)
That does not look right to me.. I dont see how this is working..  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I dont think shimming a saddle is the right way to go, I want my saddle to fit the best without a shim, BUT since Sherry Cervi does this and does it the correct way I would follow how she does it if I was ever having to shimm. Look up how to shim a saddle with Sherry.. The way your doing it just dont look like theres any support at all the shim you have is all compressed and no support.
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Location: Northern Ontario | Idk...I had it all the way up cause thats how I usually shim, but a saddle fitter told me I was doing it wrong? I will move it up forward.....it works better there |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SuperTrooper - 2018-06-28 12:45 PM Idk...I had it all the way up cause thats how I usually shim, but a saddle fitter told me I was doing it wrong? I will move it up forward.....it works better there
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| size it and adjust the thickness and position of your shim without the pad. |
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Location: North Dakota | mandita8907 - 2018-06-28 11:45 AM SuperTrooper - 2018-06-28 12:30 PM This is with a thinner pad and a small shim. I think it works well :) I pull my shims all the way up to the front of the saddle so it doesnt cause a pressure point. But maybe im doing it wrong
This is correct.
SuperTrooper you need to place your shim more forward. It should be like what southtxpony posted. The front of the shim should extend PAST the front of the saddle.
....also your saddle pad is crooked. Make sure that is straight when you saddle up (if there is one thing I am anal about, it's having everything exactly in its place).
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| SuperTrooper - 2018-06-28 11:30 AM
This is with a thinner pad and a small shim. I think it works well :)
Are you using the classic equine shim? I have a shim but mare is maturing and think I need a thinner one so curious what you're using! |
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