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| Yes. What disgusting human beings. I can’t inagine how that goal is ever going to trust people. Unbelievable. And to film it and put it on social media?!?!?! Just disgusting. |
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| Apparently it has caused a big enough stink that her family has archived their business pages and made her take down all social media. I have seen her on social media for the last couple of years and I saw something like this coming a mile away. She does not conduct herself in a mature or professional manner what so ever. If I owned a thriving business that she was associated with I would have tried to step in and give some guidance a long time ago to hopefully prevent what we are now seeing. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Yep. The same owner of that foal was also the same one that put the horse in a concrete floor stall at a huge barrel race for the entire weekend with no bedding what so ever and never cleaned the stall. There was a big thread on here about it with pictures and all. It was disgusting! Appearantly the same girl also got kicked off the grounds of Buckeye Arizona last winter during all the b8g winter authorities for abuse of her horses. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | scwebster - 2018-07-26 8:30 AM
Apparently it has caused a big enough stink that her family has archived their business pages and made her take down all social media. I have seen her on social media for the last couple of years and I saw something like this coming a mile away. She does not conduct herself in a mature or professional manner what so ever. If I owned a thriving business that she was associated with I would have tried to step in and give some guidance a long time ago to hopefully prevent what we are now seeing.
Maybe they should have stepped 8n and taught her how to properly care and handle her horses instead of allowing her to treat them like crap! Instead of worrying how it looks for their saddle bus8ness now. Worry about the care and handling of those horses! That would have been the right thing to worry about and they wouldn't have to worry about appearances of their business. |
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Location: MN | My blood was boiling when I saw those videos. You have got to be a sick person to stand there and laugh at a foal that is having its head yanked off and falling into a panel.
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| ThreeCorners - 2018-07-26 8:38 AM scwebster - 2018-07-26 8:30 AM Apparently it has caused a big enough stink that her family has archived their business pages and made her take down all social media. I have seen her on social media for the last couple of years and I saw something like this coming a mile away. She does not conduct herself in a mature or professional manner what so ever. If I owned a thriving business that she was associated with I would have tried to step in and give some guidance a long time ago to hopefully prevent what we are now seeing. Maybe they should have stepped 8n and taught her how to properly care and handle her horses instead of allowing her to treat them like crap! Instead of worrying how it looks for their saddle bus8ness now. Worry about the care and handling of those horses! That would have been the right thing to worry about and they wouldn't have to worry about appearances of their business.
I agree totally. What I was meaning is usually, if people care about nothing else...they care about their bottom line. Of couse I would hope they would have done the right thing because it was the right thing to do. |
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| People are still sharing the video even though she deactivated her account. And people are posting videos of her "training" on a paint horse and the infamous stall conditions. I don't know how this gal could show her face again... |
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Location: Illinois | From what I've been told the mother is the same way, so she's not going to get guidance from the parents. I'm assuming her step dad is the one who most likely suggested the deactivation because it was hurting his saddle business. I know 3 people who cancelled orders for C3's yesterday just because of it, I'm sure others did as well & sales will continue to decline. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How old is this girl? I bet shes old enought to know better and should not have to be told how she should be acting and treating any horse are any animal, some people are just not wired right and just plain mean. Sounds to me she has no business owning any type of animal. |
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Location: OH | Southtxponygirl - 2018-07-26 11:25 AM How old is this girl? I bet shes old enought to know better and should not have to be told how she should be acting and treating any horse are any animal, some people are just not wired right and just plain mean. Sounds to me she has no business owning any type of animal.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-07-26 11:17 AM From what I've been told the mother is the same way, so she's not going to get guidance from the parents. I'm assuming her step dad is the one who most likely suggested the deactivation because it was hurting his saddle business. I know 3 people who cancelled orders for C3's yesterday just because of it, I'm sure others did as well & sales will continue to decline.
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Location: The edge of no where | scwebster - 2018-07-26 8:30 AM Apparently it has caused a big enough stink that her family has archived their business pages and made her take down all social media. I have seen her on social media for the last couple of years and I saw something like this coming a mile away. She does not conduct herself in a mature or professional manner what so ever. If I owned a thriving business that she was associated with I would have tried to step in and give some guidance a long time ago to hopefully prevent what we are now seeing.
In comparison to some of the other things she's done.....this was minor (which was pretty horrific). I don't understand how she's been able to get away with crap for so long. Falsifying records on horses, keeping them at major events on concrete with no shavings (standing in crap), beating the snot out of them, running them into the ground, it's a long long list....... I followed her for a bit while she had SpongeBob and was so relieved when they sold that horse - he was really nice and deserved better. I do hope this puts a dent in the saddle business, it's not as if her behavior was kept secret. It's been blatantly abusive for several years ( her Mom is no better). |
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Kind of ashamed that we bought a jeff smith roper last week. If my husband and his horse didn’t really like it it’d be for sale. I really have no desire to support this family in any way. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-07-26 10:17 AM From what I've been told the mother is the same way, so she's not going to get guidance from the parents. I'm assuming her step dad is the one who most likely suggested the deactivation because it was hurting his saddle business. I know 3 people who cancelled orders for C3's yesterday just because of it, I'm sure others did as well & sales will continue to decline. He is her biological father even though they do not share the same last name. The parents have been together many years just never married.
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I just saw how the pages have been closed for the Saddles for sale page. . He came on to say he'll still be making C3's but without "her" involved. Came on BHW to find out what was going on. Glad I did. |
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| Honestly when I first discovered C3 I wanted to try one. After following the child on instagram it made me unable to get past the way she presented herself (and was allowed to present herself) to the point I just did not want to ride anything with that brand on it (because of the association with that individual). Yes she is young but her parents maybe should have addressed this a while ago before letting her be the face of that company. Not good representation. I sincerely hope this is the wake up call they need and that she can learn from it and go on in a positive direction.
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Location: Hiding from Reality | scwebster - 2018-07-26 11:12 AM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-07-26 10:17 AM From what I've been told the mother is the same way, so she's not going to get guidance from the parents. I'm assuming her step dad is the one who most likely suggested the deactivation because it was hurting his saddle business. I know 3 people who cancelled orders for C3's yesterday just because of it, I'm sure others did as well & sales will continue to decline. He is her biological father, the parents have never been married.
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| hereiam - 2018-07-26 11:37 AM scwebster - 2018-07-26 11:12 AM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-07-26 10:17 AM From what I've been told the mother is the same way, so she's not going to get guidance from the parents. I'm assuming her step dad is the one who most likely suggested the deactivation because it was hurting his saddle business. I know 3 people who cancelled orders for C3's yesterday just because of it, I'm sure others did as well & sales will continue to decline. He is her biological father, the parents have never been married. Who is her biological father?
The maker of the saddles. They do not share the same last name. Same for the younger sibling. |
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| Gunner11 - 2018-07-26 1:13 PM They're now selling all of their horses too. Not sure why this is forcing them to sell out??
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Location: N Texas | scwebster - 2018-07-26 1:20 PM
Gunner11 - 2018-07-26 1:13 PM They're now selling all of their horses too. Not sure why this is forcing them to sell out??
I don't see that actually happening. Maybe... I will be surprised .
I agree, they just posted them for sale and said they're "selling out of horses". I guess I don't see WHY they have to sell out. Wouldn't this publicity make it even harder to sell them right now?? At least wait a while so everyone can forget  |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | scwebster - 2018-07-26 11:20 AM
Gunner11 - 2018-07-26 1:13 PM They're now selling all of their horses too. Not sure why this is forcing them to sell out??
I don't see that actually happening. Maybe... I will be surprised .
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| Maybe they’re thinking smart - they don’t deserve to own animals if this is how they treat them. Maybe there’s one smart family member....so selling them to live better lives. |
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| scwebster - 2018-07-26 1:20 PM Gunner11 - 2018-07-26 1:13 PM They're now selling all of their horses too. Not sure why this is forcing them to sell out?? I don't see that actually happening. Maybe... I will be surprised .
I will be surprised too. I own a colt that is from a stud they own, they bought the stud after I already owned the colt. My horse was never for sale but the mom would message me every few months asking me to sell. No way in hell I would put a horse in their hands. If the parents wanted to stop her behavior they would have done it years ago. Chali posted a couple of years ago that she could make a barrel horse in a couple of months and did not know why trainers took so long to make one, she was marketing herself as a trainer, lol. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I bet they are trying to save face by saying they are selling out. Boy this girl sure is screwing up things for her daddy the saddle maker. They should have nip this in the bud/A** along time ago befor this really got outa hand, looks like its to late now. |
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Location: OH. IO | scwebster - 2018-07-26 2:20 PM
Gunner11 - 2018-07-26 1:13 PM They're now selling all of their horses too. Not sure why this is forcing them to sell out??
I don't see that actually happening. Maybe... I will be surprised .
maybe Daddy has had ENOUGH OF HER CRAP AND RUINING HIS BUISINESS!They need to sell out,she has no right to have ANY ANIMAL. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well Appearantly the parents agree with the treatment of the horses because they have been allowing it and supporting it all along all these years. No way will we ever buy any Jeff Smith saddles. |
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Location: OH. IO | ThreeCorners - 2018-07-26 4:35 PM
Well Appearantly the parents agree with the treatment of the horses because they have been allowing it and supporting it all along all these years. No way will we ever buy any Jeff Smith saddles.
TRUE,JUST WAS CHECKING OUT THE SADDLES LAST WEEK,WE ARE LOOKING AT THREE NEW ONES,BUT NOT NOW,I would however like to have the baby that was being manhandled by these jerks. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | I think one of the things that irks me the most is people saying “they’ve seen worse”. That doesn’t make dragging a baby horse by its neck okay...if I witnessed someone be shot and then later walked by someone getting punched in the face I’m not going to say “oh well I’ve seen worse.” I would still call the cops regardless.
I just don’t understand that mentality.
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Location: Where I am happiest | If they do sell the horses it will be those horses lucky day. Although it sounds to me more like looking for a pity party and for everyone to say "Oh no don't do that" yada yada yada. Sad what those horses have been subjected to. |
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Location: Arizona | want2chase3 - 2018-07-26 12:47 PM
I saw on Jeff Smith saddles Facebook page that she's no longer affiliated with the C3 saddles nor will be representing them.
I just saw that post as well. Word of mouth can ruin your business just like that!! I am sure he is hoping this blows over....I bought a C3, a month ago(used) and had to turn around and sell it because his "wide" fit wasn't wide enough for my mare, even though he kept telling me that it looks like it fits her...ha! |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | ThreeCorners - 2018-07-26 1:56 PM
If they do sell the horses it will be those horses lucky day. Although it sounds to me more like looking for a pity party and for everyone to say "Oh no don't do that" yada yada yada. Sad what those horses have been subjected to.
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it.
Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. |
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Location: Arizona | RockinGR - 2018-07-26 3:00 PM
I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it.
Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again.
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| ThreeCorners - 2018-07-26 3:35 PM Well Appearantly the parents agree with the treatment of the horses because they have been allowing it and supporting it all along all these years. No way will we ever buy any Jeff Smith saddles.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:00 PM I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it. Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. None of Jeff Smith's Saddles are handmade by him....
They're all shop made like Corriente and Teskey's. If he told you otherwise... Well, that's a different story entirely as well.
Handmade and shopmade are two different things: Yes, his saddles are made by hands here in Texas in a shop of saddle makers. However, a different person tools each piece and pieces the saddle together in a shop. So the saddle is made by many different people. That doesn't make it a bad build or a bad saddle but it also doesn't make it handmade. Handmade is one person tooling the saddle start to finish, building the saddle, stitching the saddle, etc and then putting their name on the keeper. That's a handmade saddle. That takes people months to complete if they work on it day in and day out.
He used to use the same shop as Teskey's used for their higher quality saddle line. Sketchy things happened on Jeff Smith's part and the shop started only making saddles for him. (Rumor has it he bought the shop and became exclusive to himself). Teskey's uses a much better shop now for their higher end saddle line in my opinion of quality, than Jeff Smith's shop. But Jeff Smith charges more than double the price.
Why? Because he can.
So Essentially yes, your Jeff Smith Saddle is a Teskey Saddle, you just paid for his keeper. Nice saddles, but sketchy in his wording and pricing.
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Let the whole C3 saddle thing die. The daughter has never been given any rules or a role model to follow. Don't give their business patronage, don't feed into the viral media hate, and please lets leave the *not* owner of the *not* kill pen out of it as well that was posting videos in her favor. All of these people are getting more famous on social media for negative things. It is not good for our industry.
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Location: Texas | They have some very nice horses what will be much better off if sold. With some the of price tags she has put on the horses, I doubt they will get that kind of money for them. Then or now. If she were mine, the next horse she swung a leg over would be one that she worked and paid for herself. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Seems like the last time this girl came up on this board is when she left her horse stalled on cement without shavings and then left the buliding with out paying, and there was a BB's on here saying to take it easy on her like maybe this girl didnt know any better or she had a reason for doing what she did, I was like WHAT???!! And now this, this girl is just a spoiled little girl it sounds like to me.. Its to bad that this kind of cra* happens. Very senseless and then to brag about this kinda of stuff and put a video out there for everyone to see, wow.. . |
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RockinGR - 2018-07-26 3:00 PM
I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it.
Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again.
Interesting...makes you wonder if you are actually getting something he made or something he through together...hmm..
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Location: Pacific Northwest | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-07-26 2:22 PM
I wish people would quit with the lynch mob mentality. The family has a history of bad horse dealings, not taking care of horses at events, poor treatment in relation to lameness, etc I understand the girl is 18 and technically that is an adult BUT that whole video going viral is a bad deal for everyone. Not only does it paint barrel racers as being ignorant and not knowing how to handle babies it also shows how into drama our whole industry can be.
Let the whole C3 saddle thing die. The daughter has never been given any rules or a role model to follow. Don't give their business patronage, don't feed into the viral media hate, and please lets leave the *not* owner of the *not* kill pen out of it as well that was posting videos in her favor. All of these people are getting more famous on social media for negative things. It is not good for our industry.
Actually I disagree.
I don’t care if it makes barrel racers look bad, what makes barrel racers look even worse would be sweeping something under the rug. THAT is what makes it look like barrel racers don’t know how to care for horses. The fact that it IS other barrel racers that are outraged shows that we are in fact aware that it’s not good practice to drag a baby animal by its neck.
I also have no idea where this “lets just ignore it until it goes away” mindset came about. If you’re stupid enough to drag a baby animal by its neck and video it and post it on social media, you deserve the bad publicity.
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Location: The edge of no where | stayceem - 2018-07-26 4:33 PM I was unfortunate enough to see videos from multiple instances. This girl either has some serious mental health issues or is one of the biggest spoiled brat's I have ever seen. I hate to compare the two but it isnt normal behavior and actually quite scary. I think it may be best for her parents to focus on her for awhile and get her some help. This has clearly been going on for some time and either they ignore it or condone it. Either way I don't feel bad for them.
It's been right under their noses all along - there's no way they weren't aware of it. Maybe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree (she's just dumb enough to post things publically). I hope they get some help for her, and I hope this has a huge negative impact on their business - it's well deserved. It's been going on forever...........and they let it. |
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Location: The edge of no where | livexlovexrodeo - 2018-07-26 4:38 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-07-26 2:22 PM I wish people would quit with the lynch mob mentality. The family has a history of bad horse dealings, not taking care of horses at events, poor treatment in relation to lameness, etc I understand the girl is 18 and technically that is an adult BUT that whole video going viral is a bad deal for everyone. Not only does it paint barrel racers as being ignorant and not knowing how to handle babies it also shows how into drama our whole industry can be. Let the whole C3 saddle thing die. The daughter has never been given any rules or a role model to follow. Don't give their business patronage, don't feed into the viral media hate, and please lets leave the *not* owner of the *not* kill pen out of it as well that was posting videos in her favor. All of these people are getting more famous on social media for negative things. It is not good for our industry. Actually I disagree. I don’t care if it makes barrel racers look bad, what makes barrel racers look even worse would be sweeping something under the rug. THAT is what makes it look like barrel racers don’t know how to care for horses. The fact that it IS other barrel racers that are outraged shows that we are in fact aware that it’s not good practice to drag a baby animal by its neck. I also have no idea where this “lets just ignore it until it goes away” mindset came about. If you’re stupid enough to drag a baby animal by its neck and video it and post it on social media, you deserve the bad publicity.
^^Exactly. Letting it go as 'no big deal' would shine a worse light on barrel racers.
There's no excuse to threaten anyone with injury or some of the stupid 'go kill yourself' messages.................but at this point, it's fair game to let them know that you will not ever spend $1 with them - and the reason why not.
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| livexlovexrodeo - 2018-07-26 4:38 PM
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I wish people would quit with the lynch mob mentality. The family has a history of bad horse dealings, not taking care of horses at events, poor treatment in relation to lameness, etc I understand the girl is 18 and technically that is an adult BUT that whole video going viral is a bad deal for everyone. Not only does it paint barrel racers as being ignorant and not knowing how to handle babies it also shows how into drama our whole industry can be.
Let the whole C3 saddle thing die. The daughter has never been given any rules or a role model to follow. Don't give their business patronage, don't feed into the viral media hate, and please lets leave the *not* owner of the *not* kill pen out of it as well that was posting videos in her favor. All of these people are getting more famous on social media for negative things. It is not good for our industry.
Actually I disagree.
I don’t care if it makes barrel racers look bad, what makes barrel racers look even worse would be sweeping something under the rug. THAT is what makes it look like barrel racers don’t know how to care for horses. The fact that it IS other barrel racers that are outraged shows that we are in fact aware that it’s not good practice to drag a baby animal by its neck.
I also have no idea where this “lets just ignore it until it goes away” mindset came about. If you’re stupid enough to drag a baby animal by its neck and video it and post it on social media, you deserve the bad publicity.
I DID NOT SAY SWEEP IT UNDER A RUG!!!
FB is plastered with the girl video and the numerous other infractions on horsemanship this girl has made. Along with just plain hate.
I disagree with the lynch mob mentality. I do agree the boycotting of the business. Jeff Smith saddles haven't been custom for years guys. I thought that was common knowledge!
You can cut the hate part out and share for awareness without all the drama and hate.
I do care about things that make our industry look bad. This is why other disciplines look down on us. IF your going to share that is fine but BE TASTEFUL and CLASSY about it.
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RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:00 PM I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it. Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. None of Jeff Smith's Saddles are handmade by him....
They're all shop made like Corriente and Teskey's. If he told you otherwise... Well, that's a different story entirely as well.
Handmade and shopmade are two different things: Yes, his saddles are made by hands here in Texas in a shop of saddle makers. However, a different person tools each piece and pieces the saddle together in a shop. So the saddle is made by many different people. That doesn't make it a bad build or a bad saddle but it also doesn't make it handmade. Handmade is one person tooling the saddle start to finish, building the saddle, stitching the saddle, etc and then putting their name on the keeper. That's a handmade saddle. That takes people months to complete if they work on it day in and day out.
He used to use the same shop as Teskey's used for their higher quality saddle line. Sketchy things happened on Jeff Smith's part and the shop started only making saddles for him. (Rumor has it he bought the shop and became exclusive to himself). Teskey's uses a much better shop now for their higher end saddle line in my opinion of quality, than Jeff Smith's shop. But Jeff Smith charges more than double the price.
Why? Because he can.
So Essentially yes, your Jeff Smith Saddle is a Teskey Saddle, you just paid for his keeper. Nice saddles, but sketchy in his wording and pricing.
Never did I imply that it was to be a handmade saddle (custom, yes)...we knew it would be shop made...but I did expect it to be made in HIS shop. If we'd have wanted a Teskey's saddle, we'd have gotten one from them at half the price. Lucky for us, it's a nice saddle and we still have it. But that does not change the fact that we were intentionally misled and I only found out because of a slip of the tongue. It took over 3 months to get our shop built saddle, BTW, after being told it would take 4-6 weeks.
ETA: I am also not naïve enough to think you could purchase a handmade saddle for $2500...
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RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:00 PM I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it. Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. None of Jeff Smith's Saddles are handmade by him....
They're all shop made like Corriente and Teskey's. If he told you otherwise... Well, that's a different story entirely as well.
Handmade and shopmade are two different things: Yes, his saddles are made by hands here in Texas in a shop of saddle makers. However, a different person tools each piece and pieces the saddle together in a shop. So the saddle is made by many different people. That doesn't make it a bad build or a bad saddle but it also doesn't make it handmade. Handmade is one person tooling the saddle start to finish, building the saddle, stitching the saddle, etc and then putting their name on the keeper. That's a handmade saddle. That takes people months to complete if they work on it day in and day out.
He used to use the same shop as Teskey's used for their higher quality saddle line. Sketchy things happened on Jeff Smith's part and the shop started only making saddles for him. (Rumor has it he bought the shop and became exclusive to himself). Teskey's uses a much better shop now for their higher end saddle line in my opinion of quality, than Jeff Smith's shop. But Jeff Smith charges more than double the price.
Why? Because he can.
So Essentially yes, your Jeff Smith Saddle is a Teskey Saddle, you just paid for his keeper. Nice saddles, but sketchy in his wording and pricing.
Never did I imply that it was to be a handmade saddle (custom, yes )...we knew it would be shop made...but I did expect it to be made in HIS shop. If we'd have wanted a Teskey's saddle, we'd have gotten one from them at half the price. Lucky for us, it's a nice saddle and we still have it. But that does not change the fact that we were intentionally misled and I only found out because of a slip of the tongue. It took over 3 months to get our shop built saddle, BTW, after being told it would take 4-6 weeks.
ETA: I am also not naïve enough to think you could purchase a handmade saddle for $2500...
You can purchase one hand made for $2500 (well maybe a touch over actually) from Jeremy Bethune, Triple Creek (when you can get them on the phone) or Micheal T. Green. All are actually made by the makers 
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When i was 18 i knew better than to treat an animal with disrespect. I have been around horses my whole life. Did she just get her first horse at 18? Being 18 is NO excuse, good grief! My dad would have kick my a** from here to tomorrow if he ever found out I mistreated a horse in anyway. Why are people making excuses for her because she's 18!! UGH!!
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When i was 18 i knew better than to treat an animal with disrespect. I have been around horses my whole life. Did she just get her first horse at 18? Being 18 is NO excuse, good grief! My dad would have kick my a** from here to tomorrow if he ever found out I mistreated a horse in anyway. Why are people making excuses for her because she's 18!! UGH!!
I agree totally!!!my parents would have handed my butt to me!!There's no way her age means crap to me!!!She deserves what she gets and so do her parents.NOTHING ANGERS ME MORE THAN CHILD AND ANIMAL ABUSE!
I know people/kids grow up learning different training methods and what seems harsh to one person may not to the next but what goes on with her in the many instances she has shown her lack of kindness towards animals. That is a quality that is inherent for most people. She had spent her teen years lying about having sponsors, horses she is selling. Hopefully this latest incident will be the much neede wake up call she and her parents need.
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I have two statements to make.
I can load a mare and foal BY MYSELF and I am 68 years old. I don't have that kind of baby drama. Hmmmm
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The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather...
I agree with this 100% but I’m asking please don’t give these ppl that crave attention any more of it!!!
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The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather...
I agree with this 100% but I’m asking please don’t give these ppl that crave attention any more of it!!!
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| streakysox - 2018-07-26 11:09 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-07-26 10:54 PM SKM - 2018-07-26 8:38 PM The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather... I agree with this 100% but I’m asking please don’t give these ppl that crave attention any more of it!!! TMS and this family are cut from the same cloth but can we please stop giving them the attention they crave so Much! This is my take on this bunch. They use horses as a piece of equipment and when one can't perform get rid of it. This is what the daughter has been taught. I think she is an entitled brat that does not appreciate anything. (Stepdaughter whatever )
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She obviously hasn't learned much. Social media accounts are back up and she's already sharing screenshots of people's death threat messages (which is TERRIBLE, no one deserves that) for drama. At this point, her parents need to step in and take her phone, computer, anything. Make her live without social media for a while...she needs to grow up. Very immature...never been taught. Hopefully they will start soon, but probably not likely.
Ive held my tongue for a while... but I was very disappointing to see her back on social media so soon. And even more disappointed to see her mother commenting and defending her daughters actions. I guess the apple does not fall far.
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Location: The edge of no where | mandita8907 - 2018-07-27 8:42 AM abrad12 - 2018-07-27 9:21 AM She obviously hasn't learned much. Social media accounts are back up and she's already sharing screenshots of people's death threat messages (which is TERRIBLE, no one deserves that) for drama. At this point, her parents need to step in and take her phone, computer, anything. Make her live without social media for a while...she needs to grow up. Very immature...never been taught. Hopefully they will start soon, but probably not likely. Ive held my tongue for a while... but I was very disappointing to see her back on social media so soon. And even more disappointed to see her mother commenting and defending her daughters actions. I guess the apple does not fall far.
First of all - The personal threats are unacceptable.
This stuff has been going on FOREVER - her parents are fully aware of her behavior and have laughed at it and enabled it. I doubt this little firestorm makes any difference at all. It will blow over. The only thing that might get their attention is a dip in saddle sales - the rest of it will not matter. They're not going to discipline her or make any changes in the way they handle horses.
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Location: N Texas | I didn't know this girl from Adam until yesterday. I learned that we actually have a lot of mutual friends and even run at some of the same barrel races. What I've gathered is that she thinks she's a MUCH better barrel racer than she really is. And that's not necessarily her fault. That comes from her parents having enough money to buy her a nicer horse than she's capable of riding because winning is more important than doing it right. She's gotten lucky and ridden just well enough to win a little money and boost her ego. She's surrounded by people who stroke that ego as opposed to guiding her.
I 100% agree that she does not deserve the bullying and death threats, that's just absolutely ridiculous. However, I genuinely hope she takes this as a learning experience that there's still A LOT she needs to learn and improve on. Do I think that will happen? Not with her current support system. When everyone around her is just making excuses for her actions, then she'll never see anything wrong with it. |
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The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather...
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:49 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-07-26 4:21 PM RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:00 PM I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it. Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. None of Jeff Smith's Saddles are handmade by him....
They're all shop made like Corriente and Teskey's. If he told you otherwise... Well, that's a different story entirely as well.
Handmade and shopmade are two different things: Yes, his saddles are made by hands here in Texas in a shop of saddle makers. However, a different person tools each piece and pieces the saddle together in a shop. So the saddle is made by many different people. That doesn't make it a bad build or a bad saddle but it also doesn't make it handmade. Handmade is one person tooling the saddle start to finish, building the saddle, stitching the saddle, etc and then putting their name on the keeper. That's a handmade saddle. That takes people months to complete if they work on it day in and day out.
He used to use the same shop as Teskey's used for their higher quality saddle line. Sketchy things happened on Jeff Smith's part and the shop started only making saddles for him. (Rumor has it he bought the shop and became exclusive to himself). Teskey's uses a much better shop now for their higher end saddle line in my opinion of quality, than Jeff Smith's shop. But Jeff Smith charges more than double the price.
Why? Because he can.
So Essentially yes, your Jeff Smith Saddle is a Teskey Saddle, you just paid for his keeper. Nice saddles, but sketchy in his wording and pricing. Never did I imply that it was to be a handmade saddle (custom, yes )...we knew it would be shop made...but I did expect it to be made in HIS shop. If we'd have wanted a Teskey's saddle, we'd have gotten one from them at half the price. Lucky for us, it's a nice saddle and we still have it. But that does not change the fact that we were intentionally misled and I only found out because of a slip of the tongue. It took over 3 months to get our shop built saddle, BTW, after being told it would take 4-6 weeks. ETA: I am also not naïve enough to think you could purchase a handmade saddle for $2500...
Completely understand. I wasn't implying that you didn't know the difference. I only stated the difference because some people may read the comment highlighted and think his saddles are handmade. There are a lot of people who read our forums when things blow up.
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| Well this sure doesn't surprise me in the least. Chali has been a spoiled brat since she was knee high. I frequented their arena and before she moved up to big horses she would abuse a poor little paint pony at every jackpot. I yelled at her several times to stop abusing that pony and give him a **** rest as she would run him everywhere in the HOT Texas heat. Her parents have never given her the time of day and it shows. Her mom, Sherry, has always been one that people around these parts steer clear of, it's just a known fact. I just surprised her abusive ways have not shown up any sooner. And yes Jeff is her bio dad. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR. People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again.
Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done.
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| della - 2018-07-27 7:06 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2018-07-27 5:35 PM della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out. What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her. She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it. ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that. It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again. Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done. Nobody but the animals suffer.
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again.
Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done.
Nobody but the animals suffer.
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Oh geeze, she's got some great role models in her life As long as her mom sees nothing wrong with what she's doing, she's not going to change.
I don’t know who Kyle Jackson is but he’s also an idiot. That is NOT how you halter break a baby. I can name at least 10 ways to do it that don’t involve yanking one down. No wonder so many horses have neck problems if people believe this is how a normal person halter breaks them. |
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Gunner11 - 2018-07-27 8:08 AM
Oh geeze, she's got some great role models in her life As long as her mom sees nothing wrong with what she's doing, she's not going to change.
I don’t know who Kyle Jackson is but he’s also an idiot. That is NOT how you halter break a baby. I can name at least 10 ways to do it that don’t involve yanking one down. No wonder so many horses have neck problems if people believe this is how a normal person halter breaks them.
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Location: The edge of no where | Be interesting to see how long it takes to back away from the 'I'm selling all my horses, y'all are mean'.
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Boot Detective
Posts: 1898
| I'm convinced that girl needs some serious psychiatric counseling. Beyond that she should NOT own or be around horses because it seems she can't control her temper with horses, nor does she have a heart for them at all. It looks like she actually hates them. Maybe because that is all she has done her whole life. I've seen comments on fb indicating when the horse was stalled with no shavings, a high up official was made aware of it and gave her 15 min to either clean it up and get shavings or leave the fairgrounds.....so she left. Hats off to him for doing something about it. This is going to hurt their saddle business and it is going to hurt their horse trading. They buy and sell a lot of horses. They buy some super nice ones at times but none of them last because they run them to death entering races several nights a week, every week. All of the attention her videos got her may be a blessing in disguise in the long run. I wouldn't buy anything they have nor would I sell them anything. The video Tara posted is laughable knowing her chronic level of sorry too. Birds of a feather flock together and that is their flock.
The young lady seriously needs help. I hope she gets it.
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