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| Not wanting to start any arguments, however I want to know WHAT is in this supplement that supposedly is good for ulcer prevention/ph gut issues? After reading the ingredients I'm really not seeing anything that buffers? I'm looking for a good pelleted supplement for ulcer prevention and was thinking of trying Cool Gut. But both my vets reccommend purina outlast |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | haven't a clue but not something I am interested in. I have found that just because a vet recommends it, doesn't mean it is a great product. A lot of companies give the vets kick back for pushing their products. Not sure if Purina is that way, but very little of Purina products impress me as far as ulcers and quality of ingredients. I do like their Active Senior until I tried Bluebonnet. But 2nd to Bluebonnet I would go back to the Active Senior feed. And their Amplify is good for weight gain. |
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| Wild1 - 2018-08-16 5:55 PM
Not wanting to start any arguments, however I want to know WHAT is in this supplement that supposedly is good for ulcer prevention/ph gut issues? After reading the ingredients I'm really not seeing anything that buffers? I'm looking for a good pelleted supplement for ulcer prevention and was thinking of trying Cool Gut. But both my vets reccommend purina outlast
From what I understand....the seaweed-derived calcium & magnesium oxide are the two ingredients that help buffer and raise pH
Ingredients:
Sun-cured alfalfa, wheat middlings, seaweed-derived calcium, cane molasses,
magnesium oxide, citric acid.
Outlast™ supplement contains a proprietary mineral complex
with a unique honeycomb structure. The porous structure of
this natural and bio-available source of calcium and
magnesium increases its surface area and enhances its
capacity to support proper gastric pH.
https://www.purinamills.com/horse-feed/products/detail/purina-outlas...
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Location: Georgia | i have no idea. Nothing impressed me about the ingredients and it was my last thing to try... but it has been the product I have had the most success with. I dont know what is so special about it but it is working for me. I can tell you my gelding would not even touch the cool gut pellets. He hated them. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | What I was told (so not sure how factual) by my vet that went to one of their seminars when it was being set up for new product release is that the seaweed is a very specific seaweed that comes from Norway--only found in Norway, or something like that. I don't know much more than that other than it works. I have a gelding who is not only on stall rest, but has IBS and Outlast has kept his appetite great and he's maintaining (actually gained) weight very well. I have a two year old in for training that had never been stalled and wasn't eating nearly as much hay as I wanted, and after only a few days was picking at his grain. Within one feeding of starting him on Outlast he cleaned up his grain and within a couple of days was eating his hay very well. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | I dont care whats in the ingredient list, doesn't tell me how it works but IT WORKS!!!! I have a horse who was cinchy, sets back, couldnt saddle him and dang sure dont tie him and try to saddle.. I started it in December and its the only thing I added and within 5 days he stood still but still very watchy. Not a fix but id call that progress!! 2 weeks into it you could half way tighten the cinch! A month into using it, he stood tied, saddled, and hes quiet. We have had him treated for ulcers a few times and it worked but always an issue later on. Just adding this hes been absolutely great!! For the cost and the amount you feed, i wont ever go with out it. Hes not the only horse its helped but hes had the biggest change. |
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Location: Georgia | Dash4KJ - 2018-08-17 4:27 PM
I dont care whats in the ingredient list, doesn't tell me how it works but IT WORKS!!!! I have a horse who was cinchy, sets back, couldnt saddle him and dang sure dont tie him and try to saddle.. I started it in December and its the only thing I added and within 5 days he stood still but still very watchy. Not a fix but id call that progress!! 2 weeks into it you could half way tighten the cinch! A month into using it, he stood tied, saddled, and hes quiet. We have had him treated for ulcers a few times and it worked but always an issue later on. Just adding this hes been absolutely great!! For the cost and the amount you feed, i wont ever go with out it. Hes not the only horse its helped but hes had the biggest change.
Ive had similar results too. I swear by it. My gelding was terrible, ill be able to give a real review when we haul to an overnight show next month. That will be the real test because he hates being stalled at over night shows. Compared to what other gastro "supplements" cost this is SO affordable. I put my whole barn on it.. even the yearling. |
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| Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Wild1 - 2018-08-17 4:49 PM
Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
I just top dress it on their grain. 4-6 oz depending on the horse. I might snack feed at an event if they stress. |
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| I'm trying to decide between 1oz of Cool Gut or a full serving of Outlast once a day. I was told by a DAC dealer that one oz would probably suffice for what I need if for with my mare. She didn't have a problem eating it. One oz would be around .36 vs .16 for the Outlast with the Feed Greatness challange. |
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| brlracerchick - 2018-08-17 11:46 PM
Isn't it automatically added to strategy now?
It is! But you have to feed a “full” serving of strategy to get a full serving of Outlast, which I think is 4lbs. I’d have to throw our scoop on a scale but I’m thinking we only feed 1lb 2x’s a day - a half to 3/4 of a standard plastic scoop.
Before they added it to strategy I was top dressing with 1c on my colt and open horse, just as a precaution while hauling. I didn’t notice a huge change, but I didn’t really have any issues with them either, so when they added it to Strategy I quit top dressing, even though they aren’t likely getting a full serving. If I had a horse who’s had ulcer issues or a reason to suspect then I would supplement additional Outlast unless I was feeding “full” servings of Strategy. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | Wild1 - 2018-08-17 3:49 PM Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
1 1/4 cup at feeding time. I dont do the snack or before a run. |
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Location: In my own little world | Go buy yourself a bag of North Atlantic kelp and you will get the same results without paying for all the fillers. Feed 2T/day and the 50# bag will last you forever. |
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| My trainer fed it to 4 horses. Two colicked from ulcers. Both had been given Gastrogard before starting the Outlast. We immediately stopped feeding it. Trainer changed to something else and we have not had a problem |
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Location: Georgia | Wild1 - 2018-08-17 5:49 PM
Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
I give 1 measuring 1 cup full with each feeding (x2 a day) and ill give 1 cup again before a stressful situation, example... about 30 minutes before a run. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I didnot look at what it is but it is working on my3. It is in Strategy and Ultium but I bought a bag Outlast for my guy on Hayrite and Total Equine. I give him a cup am/pm and 30 mins out . Same w other 2 on the Strategy , just 30 mins out but no extra. He was not jiggy or unfocused at Shootout but still ran same times as at BBR . He is very big so if he gets silly or pully he is hard to hold. Indoors he is pretty good, outdoors at night Rodeos he gets real stupid hyper or spooky.
I noticed a difference in the 2 on new Strategy in 2 days how much calmer they were , no grouchiness or picking on each other ( now a month). The other only a week .Because of how good they were I thought I would try it on him.Am scared to take him off TE as he has allergies .
. I think I am going to do the broodie n foal on Strategy also until he is weaned then Ultium growth for him. ($$$)The Purina mix for maresfoal was grain based and got all over ground and attracted flies . At 90 plus for months no good. |
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| I cannot answer your question about what is in it. I can answer I have bought a bag and won't need to buy another. Horses didn't like eating it and if I did manage to sneak it to one I noticed no difference. I have a friend and relative that feel it wasn't helpful for preventing ulcers too. Thank you for your post. |
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| mandita8907 - 2018-08-20 7:39 AM
Wild1 - 2018-08-17 5:49 PM
Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies
I give 1 measuring 1 cup full with each feeding (x2 a day ) and ill give 1 cup again before a stressful situation, example... about 30 minutes before a run.
I do this also.. All of my horses love it.. |
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Location: South Dakota | 3TurnsonSpud - 2018-08-20 1:57 PM mandita8907 - 2018-08-20 7:39 AM Wild1 - 2018-08-17 5:49 PM Well I bought my first bag today...now, curious to what amounts you are all feeding per day? The bag says several meals a day as a snack, well I have a full time job. Mine get grain in the morning and evening. I'm excited to try this thanks for all the replies I give 1 measuring 1 cup full with each feeding (x2 a day ) and ill give 1 cup again before a stressful situation, example... about 30 minutes before a run. I do this also.. All of my horses love it..
My horses love it as well!! |
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| I'm on my 2nd bag and I have to say I've noticed a significant change in my normally really cinchy, spooks at anything and everything, and will look for things to booger at, just because horse. I feed about 2 cups a day topdressed on their grain. I'll keep it in my program. He rides off very relaxed and quit his silly spooking nonsense by more than 75% of the time.. he was so bad about it, it is a running joke in my family and circle of friends. |
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| rockinas - 2018-08-19 8:24 PM
IDK what's in it, but none of my horses will eat it!
Your the first person I've ever heard say that about Outlast. I know around 80 or so head on it and none turn up their noses.
Your gonna pretty much see it in every trainer's feed room on the back side at the moment because it keeps horses eating when before they would go off feed and you have to give some type of generic or real ulcer meds. Now with this stuff you can give it to them top dressed on feed, they will literally just eat the outlast wait around 30mins and come back for the feed. Before you'd have to dose with meds which is expense for the real deal and then generic takes away time to crush or syringe up. Outlast is fixing that.
It's basically just a horse tums with calcium carbonate. It helps keep their nerves down when fed as a snack without feed or anything to haul them for works. Its extremely useful for nervous horses, horses that go off feed (happens alot after a work, race, or extensive vet work), and bottom line it keeps them eating to where they stay strong for training preventing injuries or other things like a cold from a weakened immune system.
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Location: WI | My mare had diarrhea for a week straight and I couldn't figure out anything else and after talking to the vet still no answer so I decided to start treating for ulcers. I gave 1/4 tube of ulcergard and started on Outlast and not even 8 hours later her diarrhea was gone and she was pooping normal. Was it the ulcergard or was it the Al last hard to say or maybe it was a combination but for the $40 a big I'll keep feeding it and see what happens |
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Location: my piece of paradise | Gave it a good go and fed for 5 months, never saw a difference. I will stick to GastroPLUS and GI ulcer support from THE. Not saying it doesn't work, but it did not in my program. |
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Location: West Texas | Purina Outlast = alfalfa, wheat middlings, calcium, molasses, magnesium oxide, citric acid (preservative). My humble opinion....don't fall for it, save your money.
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Location: South Dakota | Tdove - 2018-08-22 9:00 AM Purina Outlast = alfalfa, wheat middlings, calcium, molasses, magnesium oxide, citric acid (preservative). My humble opinion....don't fall for it, save your money.
What would you suggest instead? Would Forco be the better way to go for digestive support? TIA. |
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Location: Georgia | Tdove - 2018-08-22 10:00 AM
Purina Outlast = alfalfa, wheat middlings, calcium, molasses, magnesium oxide, citric acid (preservative). My humble opinion....don't fall for it, save your money.
Yeah this is why it took me so long to try it. I think I tried out 4 or 5 other products first. Finally got some Purina coupons and gave Outlast a try and it has done wonders for my horse. If you havent tried it yet I would try it before you knock it. |
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Location: Willows, CA | It is hard to list the true active in this product due to AAFCO label definitions. The marine algae that at least part of the calcium is sourced from is Lithothamnion. A mouthful I know, but very effective at neutralizing acid due to it's unique structure that has a honey comb type make up that increases surface area greatly. It also has a long effective time compared to conventional limestone sourced calcium and is kind of like a time release. We have worked extensively with this and have a different approach to formulation with no fillers coming out in the next few weeks. The technology that Purina is using here is hard to see in their analysis, but if there is enough in there it should work. Not too sure about the all the other ingredients, but what they have as a active does work. |
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Location: West Texas | https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512001123
Here is one study that found no gastric protection from Lithothamnion calcareum algae in laboratory test on rats.
I just don't believe in it. If you use it and like it, that is great. I certainly think there are many ways to feed and you have just as much right to have your preferences.
Personally, I feel the best way to approach ulcers is to feed as well as possible. We feed high inclusions of alfalfa with natural and whole feed ingredients, concentrated on anti-inflammation. We do not have any issues with ulcers, though I realize that sometimes ulcers can develop and need treatment.
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Location: Willows, CA | Tdove - 2018-08-22 5:03 PM
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512001123
Here is one study that found no gastric protection from Lithothamnion calcareum algae in laboratory test on rats.
I just don't believe in it. If you use it and like it, that is great. I certainly think there are many ways to feed and you have just as much right to have your preferences.
Personally, I feel the best way to approach ulcers is to feed as well as possible. We feed high inclusions of alfalfa with natural and whole feed ingredients, concentrated on anti-inflammation. We do not have any issues with ulcers, though I realize that sometimes ulcers can develop and need treatment.
Good thing that we are not feeding rats. More info to follow.
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| It's so odd to me that so many have horses that won't eat it. Even my pickiest horse will eat it straight from my hand. I'll admit it has a strange odor, almost reminds me of what my daughter use to feed her Guinea pigs lol! But my crew gobbles it right up without issue. |
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Location: Willows, CA | I can’t comment on the overall formula and horses willingness to eat the Purina products or not. There is a lot of stuff in there that we do not ever use. I can say that after more than a year of trials that there is measurable relief from the active if the right species is used and fed in the proper amount. We have worked in a totally different direction in formulation with no fillers or molasses and have had no issues getting horses to eat it. Every horse is different though, and some are just pickier than others. I don’t know how much or what species of the active is in the Purina feeds that include it, but if enough is in there their product should be effective to some degree. |
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Location: TN | winwillows - 2018-08-22 2:20 PM It is hard to list the true active in this product due to AAFCO label definitions. The marine algae that at least part of the calcium is sourced from is Lithothamnion. A mouthful I know, but very effective at neutralizing acid due to it's unique structure that has a honey comb type make up that increases surface area greatly. It also has a long effective time compared to conventional limestone sourced calcium and is kind of like a time release. We have worked extensively with this and have a different approach to formulation with no fillers coming out in the next few weeks. The technology that Purina is using here is hard to see in their analysis, but if there is enough in there it should work. Not too sure about the all the other ingredients, but what they have as a active does work.
Win, are you saying Renew Gold is coming out with a version of ulcer protection added-in? I sure do hope so! |
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Location: Willows, CA | Turnin3inTN - 2018-08-23 12:07 PM
winwillows - 2018-08-22 2:20 PM It is hard to list the true active in this product due to AAFCO label definitions. The marine algae that at least part of the calcium is sourced from is Lithothamnion. A mouthful I know, but very effective at neutralizing acid due to it's unique structure that has a honey comb type make up that increases surface area greatly. It also has a long effective time compared to conventional limestone sourced calcium and is kind of like a time release. We have worked extensively with this and have a different approach to formulation with no fillers coming out in the next few weeks. The technology that Purina is using here is hard to see in their analysis, but if there is enough in there it should work. Not too sure about the all the other ingredients, but what they have as a active does work.
Win, are you saying Renew Gold is coming out with a version of ulcer protection added-in? I sure do hope so!
A stand alone product to begin with. Inclusion testing in current formulations has just started. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | Tdove - 2018-08-22 4:03 PM https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512001123 Here is one study that found no gastric protection from Lithothamnion calcareum algae in laboratory test on rats. I just don't believe in it. If you use it and like it, that is great. I certainly think there are many ways to feed and you have just as much right to have your preferences. Personally, I feel the best way to approach ulcers is to feed as well as possible. We feed high inclusions of alfalfa with natural and whole feed ingredients, concentrated on anti-inflammation. We do not have any issues with ulcers, though I realize that sometimes ulcers can develop and need treatment.
Im going to ask this because I really want to know what your thought is as I know you'll probably say to feed your feed. I fed your formula in Omnis and it got slightly better but this one horse was still really bad. My supplier stopped carrying Omnis so I had to go with Hay-Rite he got a little better but still a major problem. This horse ate no grain, no supplements, no extras other than a round bale and the cubes. They are also turned out 24/7 w access to hay at all times. Even in the trailer. So why did added Outlast change him so much when he had been on this type of feeding for well over a year? Outlast was the only thing I added to this horses nutrition. |
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Location: Arkansas | This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering. |
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Location: Nebraska | Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering.
I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny. |
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Location: Arkansas | brlracerchick - 2018-08-23 10:48 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering.
I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny.
We feed the Healthy Edge to 2 of ours, and we will probably start the new bag next week. Both of these horses are EASY keepers and just getting enough feed in the mornings to get their Forco and CJ supplements. Do you even think that will be enough to see a difference? ( How much are you feeding?) |
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Location: Georgia | Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-24 2:05 AM
brlracerchick - 2018-08-23 10:48 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering.
I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny.
We feed the Healthy Edge to 2 of ours, and we will probably start the new bag next week. Both of these horses are EASY keepers and just getting enough feed in the mornings to get their Forco and CJ supplements. Do you even think that will be enough to see a difference? ( How much are you feeding? )
I believe to get the maximum benefit they have to get a full serving of feed. |
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Location: Arkansas | mandita8907 - 2018-08-24 8:18 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-24 2:05 AM
brlracerchick - 2018-08-23 10:48 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering.
I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny.
We feed the Healthy Edge to 2 of ours, and we will probably start the new bag next week. Both of these horses are EASY keepers and just getting enough feed in the mornings to get their Forco and CJ supplements. Do you even think that will be enough to see a difference? ( How much are you feeding? )
I believe to get the maximum benefit they have to get a full serving of feed.
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Location: Nebraska | Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-24 1:05 AM brlracerchick - 2018-08-23 10:48 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering. I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny. We feed the Healthy Edge to 2 of ours, and we will probably start the new bag next week. Both of these horses are EASY keepers and just getting enough feed in the mornings to get their Forco and CJ supplements. Do you even think that will be enough to see a difference? ( How much are you feeding? )
Mine get 3 1/2 to 4 lb a day depending on activity
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Location: Arkansas | brlracerchick - 2018-08-25 1:40 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-24 1:05 AM brlracerchick - 2018-08-23 10:48 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-08-23 8:17 PM This may have already been talked about. . . . Have those of you that are feeding the feed with the Outlast in it seen a difference? We got our first bags Tuesday since they added the Outlast and was just wondering. I've noticed a big difference in mine. My hard keeper actually is starting to look full and everyone is extra shiny. We feed the Healthy Edge to 2 of ours, and we will probably start the new bag next week. Both of these horses are EASY keepers and just getting enough feed in the mornings to get their Forco and CJ supplements. Do you even think that will be enough to see a difference? ( How much are you feeding? )
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Location: Willows, CA | winwillows - 2018-08-23 12:37 PM
Turnin3inTN - 2018-08-23 12:07 PM
winwillows - 2018-08-22 2:20 PM It is hard to list the true active in this product due to AAFCO label definitions. The marine algae that at least part of the calcium is sourced from is Lithothamnion. A mouthful I know, but very effective at neutralizing acid due to it's unique structure that has a honey comb type make up that increases surface area greatly. It also has a long effective time compared to conventional limestone sourced calcium and is kind of like a time release. We have worked extensively with this and have a different approach to formulation with no fillers coming out in the next few weeks. The technology that Purina is using here is hard to see in their analysis, but if there is enough in there it should work. Not too sure about the all the other ingredients, but what they have as a active does work.
Win, are you saying Renew Gold is coming out with a version of ulcer protection added-in? I sure do hope so!
A stand alone product to begin with. Inclusion testing in current formulations has just started.
You will likely not see this blended into Renew Gold even though the low feed rates allow for proper control of the active. I see value to this as a stand alone additive that can be added to a low or no grain diet. This lets you dose at the proper amount without having all the fillers in the diet from having to feed a full recommended amount of a 4 to 6 pound per day blended feed. I always recommend that people stay away from feeds that contain mystery "byproducts" listed ingredients. Those types of products can be contributors to the reason you need help with ulcers in the first place. Kind of like giving a baby a sharp knife with a bandaid holder in the handle.
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