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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The alleged accuser's (i.e. Demoncrat plant) timeline:
1982 - Something may or may not have happened with another 2 (or 4) teenagers at a party, she cannot remember who threw the party, where the party was held, who she was with or how she got home. She was drinking and said nothing to anyone.
1983,
1984,
1985,
1986,
1987,
1988,
1989,
1990,
1991,
1992,
1993,
1994,
1995,
1996,
1997,
1998,
1999,
2000,
2001,
2002... She said nothing.
July 25, 2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit... She said nothing.
2004,
2005... She said nothing.
May 11, 2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation. Kavanaugh subsequently confirmed by the United States Senate... She said nothing.
June 1, 2006: Kavanaugh sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy... She said nothing.
2007,
2008,
2009,
2010,
2011... She said nothing.
2012... She remembered 'something' happened in 1982, yet doesn't name Kavanaugh, still said nothing to authorities.
2013,
2014,
2015,
2016,
2017 - becomes an anti-trump activist.
2018 - now 36 years later, with Kavanaugh's SCOTUS confirmation looming, she pens an anonymous letter with grave accusations against Kavanaugh regarding foggy circumstance that occurred while they were both minors, then reveals herself and DEMANDS an FBI investigation before testifying to her incredible allegations?
Who does she think she is?
And now he is being asked to prove a negative.....before the allegation is outlined in a public forum.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Incredible.
#WALKAWAY from the insanity liberals.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | What is more amazing is to listen to those try and debunk him........you just can't make this stuff up........ |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | AND NOW they are calling her a SURVIVOR!!!! A survivor of WHAT?!!!  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-21 2:13 PM AND NOW they are calling her a SURVIVOR!!!! A survivor of WHAT?!!!
He’s an attempted rapist, get on board, lol |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | She remembers some poor drunk fool making it to second base and THAT'S what she remembers from HS? Not the double digit sexual partners she had by mutual consent??? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | It has been brought up that Kavanaugh's friend lived in a house that matches up with her recollection of the home that this was suppose to have happened at.
The resembelance is pretty scary. I'll go find the picture and post it here.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | And here’s the dirty little secret......it’s working.
Even if Kavanaugh is confirmed, their mission will be accomplished.
They don’t really care about the plight of women. They are using women just like they are using minorities. That’s all a ruse. Power is the end game. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2018-09-21 2:41 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-21 2:13 PM AND NOW they are calling her a SURVIVOR!!!! A survivor of WHAT?!!!
LOL  , I guess I'm missing something then. I wonder if that Stormy person is coaching her in all this  |
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| And the latest " Her lawyer says she can't make it Monday because she is afraid to fly but she could drive to DG latter in the week maybe". Can we say STALL at all costs. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2018-09-21 6:40 PM
And the latest " Her lawyer says she can't make it Monday because she is afraid to fly but she could drive to DG latter in the week maybe". Can we say STALL at all costs.
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| if i was a boy in this day an age i would video and get a recording if i wanted to kss a member of opposite sex or anything else
this is a good old fashion witch hunt
its out of control
where is innocent till proven guilty i have friends that are lawyers that have convicted him huh? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | vjls - 2018-09-21 7:52 PM
if i was a boy in this day an age i would video and get a recording if i wanted to kss a member of opposite sex or anything else
this is a good old fashion witch hunt
its out of control
where is innocent till proven guilty i have friends that are lawyers that have convicted him huh?
I wouldn’t even risk that.
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Being a mother of two boys, this scares me more than turning my kids loose on our crappy Louisiana roads. How many "victims" have to scrub thier social media accounts before bravely coming forward to share their story? Also, the online yearbooks from her sophmore thru senior years at Holton have been scrubbed too. This whole thing is such a joke, the double standards are rediculous at best. I guess for now I hope my boys become NFL football players or a politician with a "D" behind thier name, otherwise they will be fair game for any hussy with an axe to grind. |
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Location: Kansas | Here's something I heard mentioned yesterday by a woman who seemed pretty moderate on the whole situation. Fifteen year old girls, even if they don't tell their parents, tell their girlfriends "everything." Adding my own opinion to that, these girlfriends generally tell everybody on the planet what they were told to keep to themselves. Are we going to be seeing classmates step up to the plate for the forgetful professor......or what?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Fox News released a poll this morning that says more people believe Ford over Kavanaugh by 6%.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-21 4:45 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-09-21 2:41 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-21 2:13 PM AND NOW they are calling her a SURVIVOR!!!! A survivor of WHAT?!!!
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| Bear - 2018-09-23 10:25 AM
Fox News released a poll this morning that says more people believe Ford over Kavanaugh by 6%.
What does that say about the world we live in today?
I stopped listening to polls after the last election. You can make them say anything by who you poll and by what questions you ask. At best they are only a snapshot in time of a vary small percentage of the Nation.
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Location: Kansas | jbhoot - 2018-09-23 12:00 PM
Bear - 2018-09-23 10:25 AM
Fox News released a poll this morning that says more people believe Ford over Kavanaugh by 6%.
What does that say about the world we live in today?
I stopped listening to polls after the last election. You can make them say anything by who you poll and by what questions you ask. At best they are only a snapshot in time of a vary small percentage of the Nation.
I agree and it's pretty tough to make a poll ratio 50/50 righties and lefties.
Interesting that Ms. Ford said she couldn't make the Monday hearing because she was afraid to fly (maximum BS) but Judge Jeanine remarked last night that this woman interned in Hawaii so wondered if she drove there also. Delay, delay. Now she has agreed to meet Thursday but her lawyer has yet to present the "terms." Ms. Ford is also taking on anti-Trump lawyers and Clinton aides to help her destroy this man. This hearing may become as much a Dem hysteria circus as the confirmation hearings.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | CNN got a shock when they asked 5 women what they think.
https://americatheawesome.com/watch-cnn-asks-5-women-if-they-believe...
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Location: East Texas | Well, now they have found another scape goat to accuse him of exposing himself to her while she was drunk. The reason they are doing this is to stall his confirmation vote. The first idiot's story is not going very well, so why not give the sharks more bait to strangle on! The 2nd worst thing about all this is that they think many of us are so stupid that we will swallow this hook, line and sinker, or even worse, they truly don't care what we think as long as they can get their way! Please, please encourage everyone you know to vote in November. |
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Location: Kansas | Stormy Daniels sleazebag attorney is also ready to throw some garbage into the mix. He's just kind of waiting in line for his turn. I heard a little about his nit-wit claims and they sounded as ridiculous as the first two.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Frodo - 2018-09-22 2:17 PM
jbhoot - 2018-09-23 12:00 PM
Bear - 2018-09-23 10:25 AM
Fox News released a poll this morning that says more people believe Ford over Kavanaugh by 6%.
What does that say about the world we live in today?
I stopped listening to polls after the last election. You can make them say anything by who you poll and by what questions you ask. At best they are only a snapshot in time of a vary small percentage of the Nation.
I agree and it's pretty tough to make a poll ratio 50/50 righties and lefties.
Interesting that Ms. Ford said she couldn't make the Monday hearing because she was afraid to fly (maximum BS ) but Judge Jeanine remarked last night that this woman interned in Hawaii so wondered if she drove there also. Delay, delay. Now she has agreed to meet Thursday but her lawyer has yet to present the "terms." Ms. Ford is also taking on anti-Trump lawyers and Clinton aides to help her destroy this man. This hearing may become as much a Dem hysteria circus as the confirmation hearings.
Exactly.........delay delay.......oh and we just happened to have another women come out last night.......yeah right.....
There hope is to delay long enough which is why the accusations weren't brought up during the hearings or Kavanaugh to step down now and start the entire process all over again.....and midterms come and the democrats take over the house....thus moving to impeach Trump.....
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | vjls - 2018-09-21 7:52 PM if i was a boy in this day an age i would video and get a recording if i wanted to kss a member of opposite sex or anything else
this is a good old fashion witch hunt
its out of control
where is innocent till proven guilty i have friends that are lawyers that have convicted him huh?
I have heard of guys who will ID a woman before buying them a drink, let alone before taking them on a date...
Sad world...
Girls these days aren't mature enough to realize how damaging false accusations are to people and to society as a whole.
Makes me sick to think of all these "survivors"... They're only making it harder for actual abuse victims to get the courage to come forward. Especially when today's world is so accustomed to people crying wolf they start losing sympathy for actual victims.  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ....and now there is yet another accuser, Deborah Ramirez, who said that Brett Kavanaugh flashed her. The New Yorker reported this.
Here’s the Cliff Notes on her timeline:
•She didn't know who it was for 35 years
•Kavanaugh was nominated
•She met with Dem lawyer for 6 days to "assess her memories"
•Accused Kavanaugh
•She still isn't even sure it was him
•All the witnesses deny it
•Kavanaugh denies it
•Other outlets passed on story.
Every year since 1992 has been called the “Year of the Woman”. They’ve used different titles, like “War on Women”, and now “#MeToo”, but it’s all the same.
This movement has nothing to do with equality for women, respect for women, or women’s rights. It’s all a ruse....a tool for capturing political power.
They don’t give two sh!ts about women.....not really.
Same thing with “racism”. Truth be told, they LOVE racism. Racism is their life blood. They need racism to survive. They love racism, in reality.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Congress enjoys an approval rating of around 10% for good reason. They shirk their responsibility to legislate by passing those issues on to unelected alphabet soup agency bureaucrats (EPA, HHS, DHS, etc...), but until now at least they still had a meaningful job....advise and consent.
Now, it appears to me, they are going to shirk that responsibility and replace “advise and consent” with opinion polls.
Yes.....The pundits are using opinion polls to decide on Kavanaugh’s qualification to be a Supreme Court Justice. |
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Location: Kansas | Brett and Ashley Kavanaugh are going to speak out on FOX this evening. Martha McCallum's show. Mr. Kavanaugh said he will not withdraw his name. He's in there for the fight.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-24 3:26 PM
Brett and Ashley Kavanaugh are going to speak out on FOX this evening. Martha McCallum's show. Mr. Kavanaugh said he will not withdraw his name. He's in there for the fight.
It’s nice to know at least someone in that swampy town has balls besides Trump. His denial is clear and unambiguous. He’s going to fight this bullsh!t. Good for him....good for us. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | He was just interviewed by Martha McCallum. I can’t imagine anyone doubting him. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Someone really needs to start a Mens Right Movement.. Seems like men are really getting the short end of the stick the last 5 years maybe even longer but really seems to have picked up latley on the men bashing.  |
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Location: Kansas | Ms. Ford seems to be flipflopping again. Doesn't like Thursday anymore.
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Location: the end of the rainbow | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-24 5:36 PM Someone really needs to start a Mens Right Movement.. Seems like men are really getting the short end of the stick the last 5 years maybe even longer but really seems to have picked up latley on the men bashing.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | What they did to Ted Cruz and his wife last night while trying to have supper in a restaurant in DC over all this cra* was just so uncalled for and its really getting outa hand. Those Demoncrats are just getting scary and I think they are getting dangerous and it wont be long befor something bad really happens. |
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Location: East Texas | Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! |
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Location: Kansas | horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this!
She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
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Location: Arizona | Bear - 2018-09-21 12:02 PM
The alleged accuser's (i.e. Demoncrat plant) timeline:
1982 - Something may or may not have happened with another 2 (or 4) teenagers at a party, she cannot remember who threw the party, where the party was held, who she was with or how she got home. She was drinking and said nothing to anyone.
1983,
1984,
1985,
1986,
1987,
1988,
1989,
1990,
1991,
1992,
1993,
1994,
1995,
1996,
1997,
1998,
1999,
2000,
2001,
2002... She said nothing.
July 25, 2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit... She said nothing.
2004,
2005... She said nothing.
May 11, 2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation. Kavanaugh subsequently confirmed by the United States Senate... She said nothing.
June 1, 2006: Kavanaugh sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy... She said nothing.
2007,
2008,
2009,
2010,
2011... She said nothing.
2012... She remembered 'something' happened in 1982, yet doesn't name Kavanaugh, still said nothing to authorities.
2013,
2014,
2015,
2016,
2017 - becomes an anti-trump activist.
2018 - now 36 years later, with Kavanaugh's SCOTUS confirmation looming, she pens an anonymous letter with grave accusations against Kavanaugh regarding foggy circumstance that occurred while they were both minors, then reveals herself and DEMANDS an FBI investigation before testifying to her incredible allegations?
Who does she think she is?
And now he is being asked to prove a negative.....before the allegation is outlined in a public forum.
This gave me an idea for a rule change in baseball. From now on the batter must swing before the pitch is delivered.
New rule in baseball, the Umpire must call the pitch before it's thrown... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I was wondering when he would show up, lol..piece of dog p**p.. I wonder when oh Stormy will step in  |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I don't think that Michael Avanetti is representing Dr. Ford but he did state that he was representing a THIRD person to come forward ..... and now, you have his freshman roommate at Yale coming forward to describe him as a "heavy drinker" who became "aggressive and belligerent" when drunk...... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | LMAO....I knew you couldn’t resist chiming in with your left wing point of view.....under the guise of seeking the truth. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I have not heard this from his room mate. Please site where you saw this Quote. |
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Location: Kansas | The scenario I heard from the Avanetti bag of tricks was that Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge drugged girls and gave them alcohol then set them up for gang rape with a train of men waiting in line. There.....it's like he laid awake all night trying to think of the most disgusting story he could possibly conjure up.
I feel so sorry for Kavanaugh's little girls. This is so far beyond their realm of understanding.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1 guy claims Brett was a slobbering drunk, and hundreds of women, including some avowed liberals, stand up for his integrity and impeccable character throughout his life. What planet are we living on? This guy kept his bean dry until he was well into his 20s. I don’t think I even know anyone like that.
So he stands up to 30 hours of withering assaults from the Dems during the confirmation hearings, and calmly regurgitates an exhaustive, encyclopedic command of the constitution, legal precedents, case law, without even coming close to remotely being stumped. So they decided to “Bork” him....an old ploy with which we are all familiar.
Dr Ford is being prepped as we speak. This is their Hail Mary. She’s got it made from now on, regardless of whether or not Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed. She will be a wealthy hero, no matter what, mark my word.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2018-09-25 6:49 PM NJJ - 2018-09-25 4:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I have not heard this from his room mate. Please site where you saw this Quote.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2018-09-25 6:40 PM LMAO....I knew you couldn’t resist chiming in with your left wing point of view.....under the guise of seeking the truth.
Ah ..... yes .... the ol' tired tactic ..... I can't help it that it has been on the "news" today .....  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans.
Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still...
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jbhoot - 2018-09-25 6:49 PM NJJ - 2018-09-25 4:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I have not heard this from his room mate. Please site where you saw this Quote.
Oh I did and you left out a lot. Like he was not friends with the judge but was a close friend of the with the woman. He did not hang with the same crowd as the judge. He also stated the judge was mostly reserved and keep to him self. They where only room mates for the freshman year. And a check on his history since college shows he is hard left. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give him a 1 as to relevance. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still...
LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2018-09-26 7:59 AM NJJ - 2018-09-25 9:16 PM jbhoot - 2018-09-25 6:49 PM NJJ - 2018-09-25 4:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I have not heard this from his room mate. Please site where you saw this Quote. Oh I did and you left out a lot. Like he was not friends with the judge but was a close friend of the with the woman. He did not hang with the same crowd as the judge. He also stated the judge was mostly reserved and keep to him self. They where only room mates for the freshman year. And a check on his history since college shows he is hard left. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give him a 1 as to relevance.
Sooooo..... He didn't have to be a "close" friend but actually LIVED with him to see him drunk, aggressive and belligerent. Please note, that I never said that the story was true OR false ....only that it has NOW been reported ...... and ....
PSA ..... many quiet and reserved men are ENTIRELY different under the influence of alcohol .....
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Location: Kansas | National news (with the exceptiono of FOX) is liberal media and are given to fairy tales. Google is off the charts liberal.
Today Yale University is shut down by law students protesting Kavanaugh. Their stand is he's guilty. Law students, liberal college, scarey.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:09 AM
Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still...
LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL
Norma, he said you were a hottie back in those days.
He said he saw you, therefore you are lying.
He licked a $5 bill and slapped it on your as$.....the accuser was traumatized because you rejected him. He is emotionally scarred for life.
The new paradigm is that the accuser is always right until proven otherwise.....therefore, prove to us how he is wrong.
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| Bear - 2018-09-26 11:29 AM NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:09 AM Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still... LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL Norma, he said you were a hottie back in those days. He said he saw you, therefore you are lying. He licked a $5 bill and slapped it on your as$.....the accuser was traumatized because you rejected him. He is emotionally scarred for life. The new paradigm is that the accuser is always right until proven otherwise.....therefore, prove to us how he is wrong. Otherwise, you are guilty.
Anita Hill commented that without the FBI investigation and hearing from witnesses it will not be fair. Well, we have heard from the witnesses and all say they have no recollection of Kavenaugh being at the party. So the next step is to read year book inscriptions written by a frat who loved to drink as if that proves anything but yet he is guilty. |
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| Bear - 2018-09-26 11:29 AM NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:09 AM Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still... LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL Norma, he said you were a hottie back in those days. He said he saw you, therefore you are lying. He licked a $5 bill and slapped it on your as$.....the accuser was traumatized because you rejected him. He is emotionally scarred for life. The new paradigm is that the accuser is always right until proven otherwise.....therefore, prove to us how he is wrong. Otherwise, you are guilty.
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Location: Kansas | So the third gal has now come up with insane allegations more disturbing than you can imagine. Seems she was present to witness Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh participating in these gang rapes but I'm not quite clear on why she didn't call the police or, better yet, go home.
Republicans are definitely smelling the money of George Soros in this circus. Avanetti was, of course, the first attorney anyone would contact. He's such a professional.
...and six FBI background checks didn't uncover this scandal. You boys aren't doing your job very well. 
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Whiteboy - 2018-09-26 12:08 PM Bear - 2018-09-26 11:29 AM NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:09 AM Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still... LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL Norma, he said you were a hottie back in those days. He said he saw you, therefore you are lying. He licked a $5 bill and slapped it on your as$.....the accuser was traumatized because you rejected him. He is emotionally scarred for life. The new paradigm is that the accuser is always right until proven otherwise.....therefore, prove to us how he is wrong. Otherwise, you are guilty.
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Location: Montgomery TX | Frodo - 2018-09-25 7:16 PM
The scenario I heard from the Avanetti bag of tricks was that Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge drugged girls and gave them alcohol then set them up for gang rape with a train of men waiting in line. There.....it's like he laid awake all night trying to think of the most disgusting story he could possibly conjure up.
I feel so sorry for Kavanaugh's little girls. This is so far beyond their realm of understanding.
I just finished reading this book - its called "What happened that Night" - I don't recall the author off the top of my head....... |
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Location: Mountains of VA | IDK IF these allegations are true or not, why did it take so long to be made public? IDK BUT this is similar to the Bill Cosby case and also JoPa with Penn State..........it took years before someone broke the silence. Is it a Con Game by the Dems? IDK that either. Did people finally get ****ed off enough to not let Kavanaugh get the nomination??? Time will tell, get the FBI involved to sort this mess out. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | hotpaints - 2018-09-26 8:41 PM IDK IF these allegations are true or not, why did it take so long to be made public? IDK BUT this is similar to the Bill Cosby case and also JoPa with Penn State..........it took years before someone broke the silence. Is it a Con Game by the Dems? IDK that either. Did people finally get ****ed off enough to not let Kavanaugh get the nomination??? Time will tell, get the FBI involved to sort this mess out.
This is why we are in the mess that we are in.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I have a hypothetical question here. Jane Doe is a young woman, a 19 year old college student. She enjoys attending beer parties with 15, 16, and 17 year old high school kids.
At her first beer party, she witnesses a gang rape of a young intoxicated girl by several boys. She reports nothing to anyone. She attends another party where she witnesses another gang rape, or a so-called “rape train”. She notes that the rape victims are either drunk, drugged, or both. This continues until she tallies 10 of these parties. She keeps a tally of these 10 parties.......TEN. Several “gang bangs” at all ten parties. Several young boys and their young girl victims. She reports nothing to any authorities....for 35 years.
What does that tell you about Jane Doe?
Here’s your chance to play psychiatrist. What’s your diagnosis?
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| Bear - 2018-09-26 9:02 PM
I have a hypothetical question here. Jane Doe is a young woman, a 19 year old college student. She enjoys attending beer parties with 15, 16, and 17 year old high school kids.
At her first beer party, she witnesses a gang rape of a young intoxicated girl by several boys. She reports nothing to anyone. She attends another party where she witnesses another gang rape, or a so-called “rape train”. She notes that the rape victims are either drunk, drugged, or both. This continues until she tallies 10 of these parties. She keeps a tally of these 10 parties.......TEN. Several “gang bangs” at all ten parties. Several young boys and their young girl victims. She reports nothing to any authorities....for 35 years.
What does that tell you about Jane Doe?
Here’s your chance to play psychiatrist. What’s your diagnosis?
I’ll check back in with the correct diagnosis. Give it a shot.
Anti-social personality.... for so many reasons. If it were true, you have the fact of disregarding safety of others. If not true, you have the lying, law-breaking, manipulation. Not to mention low morals and lacking a conscience. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | hotpaints - 2018-09-26 7:41 PM
IDK IF these allegations are true or not, why did it take so long to be made public? IDK BUT this is similar to the Bill Cosby case and also JoPa with Penn State..........it took years before someone broke the silence. Is it a Con Game by the Dems? IDK that either. Did people finally get ****ed off enough to not let Kavanaugh get the nomination??? Time will tell, get the FBI involved to sort this mess out.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | stayceem - 2018-09-26 9:12 PM
Bear - 2018-09-26 9:02 PM
I have a hypothetical question here. Jane Doe is a young woman, a 19 year old college student. She enjoys attending beer parties with 15, 16, and 17 year old high school kids.
At her first beer party, she witnesses a gang rape of a young intoxicated girl by several boys. She reports nothing to anyone. She attends another party where she witnesses another gang rape, or a so-called “rape train”. She notes that the rape victims are either drunk, drugged, or both. This continues until she tallies 10 of these parties. She keeps a tally of these 10 parties.......TEN. Several “gang bangs” at all ten parties. Several young boys and their young girl victims. She reports nothing to any authorities....for 35 years.
What does that tell you about Jane Doe?
Here’s your chance to play psychiatrist. What’s your diagnosis?
I’ll check back in with the correct diagnosis. Give it a shot.
Anti-social personality.... for so many reasons. If it were true, you have the fact of disregarding safety of others. If not true, you have the lying, law-breaking, manipulation. Not to mention low morals and lacking a conscience.
Jane Doe is sick. She is a voyeur. More specifically, she has something called “Voyeuristic Disorder”. A person with “voyeuristic disorder” becomes sexually aroused by intentionally spying on unsuspecting people who are naked, getting undressed, or participating in sexual activities. Many especially love to witness forced sexual acts.....rape. In addition to observing these private acts directly, voyeurs may record them for later use.
Oh....and this political con job doesn’t even come close to the Bill Cosby case. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Bear - 2018-09-26 9:39 PM stayceem - 2018-09-26 9:12 PM Bear - 2018-09-26 9:02 PM I have a hypothetical question here. Jane Doe is a young woman, a 19 year old college student. She enjoys attending beer parties with 15, 16, and 17 year old high school kids. At her first beer party, she witnesses a gang rape of a young intoxicated girl by several boys. She reports nothing to anyone. She attends another party where she witnesses another gang rape, or a so-called “rape train”. She notes that the rape victims are either drunk, drugged, or both. This continues until she tallies 10 of these parties. She keeps a tally of these 10 parties.......TEN. Several “gang bangs” at all ten parties. Several young boys and their young girl victims. She reports nothing to any authorities....for 35 years. What does that tell you about Jane Doe? Here’s your chance to play psychiatrist. What’s your diagnosis? I’ll check back in with the correct diagnosis. Give it a shot. Anti-social personality.... for so many reasons. If it were true, you have the fact of disregarding safety of others. If not true, you have the lying, law-breaking, manipulation. Not to mention low morals and lacking a conscience. Jane Doe is sick. She is a voyeur. More specifically, she has something called “Voyeuristic Disorder”. A person with “voyeuristic disorder” becomes sexually aroused by intentionally spying on unsuspecting people who are naked, getting undressed, or participating in sexual activities. Many especially love to witness forced sexual acts.....rape. In addition to observing these private acts directly, voyeurs may record them for later use. Oh....and this political con job doesn’t even come close to the Bill Cosby case.
Yep, the Cosby case (and Clinton too) involved a powerful man, even a mentor figure, taking advantage of his position and power to impose his will on much younger women who would have been very afraid of coming forward. If any of the accusations against Kavanaugh are true, it was with his peers and equals, no real reason not to come forward much sooner than now. |
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Location: Kansas | Bear - 2018-09-27 7:47 AM . Jane Doe has a name. It's Julie Swetnik and she has a very questionable background including getting waaaay behind on her taxes (tens of thousands) but somehow magically recovering. She was once a client of Ms. Katz who is Ms. Ford's attorney. Plus she has an ex-boyfriend who had to get a restraining order against her because she threatened him and his child. He's suspicious of her story to say the least.
Lindsey Graham is on this like a duck on a Junebug.
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Location: East Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-27 8:05 AM
Bear - 2018-09-27 7:47 AM . Jane Doe has a name. It's Julie Swetnik and she has a very questionable background including getting waaaay behind on her taxes (tens of thousands) but somehow magically recovering. She was once a client of Ms. Katz who is Ms. Ford's attorney. Plus she has an ex-boyfriend who had to get a restraining order against her because she threatened him and his child. He's suspicious of her story to say the least.
Lindsey Graham is on this like a duck on a Junebug.
Frodo, if you are watching, give us a little update every once in a while for those of us who are at work and can't!
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Location: Kansas | horsesinharleton - 2018-09-27 9:56 AM Frodo - 2018-09-27 8:05 AM Bear - 2018-09-27 7:47 AM . Jane Doe has a name. It's Julie Swetnik and she has a very questionable background including getting waaaay behind on her taxes (tens of thousands) but somehow magically recovering. She was once a client of Ms. Katz who is Ms. Ford's attorney. Plus she has an ex-boyfriend who had to get a restraining order against her because she threatened him and his child. He's suspicious of her story to say the least.
Lindsey Graham is on this like a duck on a Junebug.
Frodo, if you are watching, give us a little update every once in a while for those of us who are at work and can't!
Grassley: We will endeavor to be fair to everyone.
Feinstein: Ms. Ford: Mother Teresa
Mr. Kavanaugh: Adoph Hitler
I also had the feeling that if things don't go well today Pres. Trump may ask Kavanaugh to step down so he can pick another candidate. So much damage done.
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Location: East Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-27 10:37 AM
horsesinharleton - 2018-09-27 9:56 AM Frodo - 2018-09-27 8:05 AM Bear - 2018-09-27 7:47 AM . Jane Doe has a name. It's Julie Swetnik and she has a very questionable background including getting waaaay behind on her taxes (tens of thousands) but somehow magically recovering. She was once a client of Ms. Katz who is Ms. Ford's attorney. Plus she has an ex-boyfriend who had to get a restraining order against her because she threatened him and his child. He's suspicious of her story to say the least.
Lindsey Graham is on this like a duck on a Junebug.
Frodo, if you are watching, give us a little update every once in a while for those of us who are at work and can't!
Grassley: We will endeavor to be fair to everyone.
Feinstein: Ms. Ford: Mother Teresa
Mr. Kavanaugh: Adoph Hitler
I also had the feeling that if things don't go well today Pres. Trump may ask Kavanaugh to step down so he can pick another candidate. So much damage done.
Wow... what a shame if he has to do that. The Judge's name smeared, his wife and family drug through the dirt and his life will never be the same!
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Location: South Dakota | luluwhit - 2018-09-27 11:30 AM is anyone acutally watching/listinging to the live feed going on now?
I have been watching on and off, and it is hard to stomach. I am just sick of this whole circus, I hope this backfires on the Democrats in a huge way, and they get destroyed at the ballot box. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It’s not over yet. So far, nothing surprises me at all.
She’s had a long time to prepare and rehearse. She has had a team helping her.
Everyone seems to be falling into the same slippery slope that is centered around the presumption of guilt.
I’m anxious to hear from Kavanaugh.
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Location: Kansas | luluwhit - 2018-09-27 11:30 AM is anyone acutally watching/listinging to the live feed going on now?
I can't turn on the sound but it's all summarized like texting on the internet. The Republicans are all giving their time to Ms. Mitchell who is the prosecutor/expert in this field. Democrats are basically sympathizing with Ms. Ford and telling her they believe her. |
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Location: Illinois | I don't think the roommate thing should be taken seriously unless he was around him outside of their living quarters. I had many college roommates and fought like hell with 2 of them, we wanted to kill each other. They would tell you I'm aggressive and easily set off, but it was just with them and I've rarely ever had a confrontation with anyone outside of that. But that was all they saw of me, which could be the case with the roommate. This whole thing is like some type of backyard circus and is quite embarrassing for American society I think. We may as well start convicting all the adults who stole a piece of candy out of the bins at the stores when they were 6, because that is equally as ridiculous as this |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | luluwhit - 2018-09-27 11:30 AM is anyone acutally watching/listinging to the live feed going on now?
I got it on and listening some, well alot, but about to try to stop but cant, lol.. Oh look Bernie Sanders just walked by.. This is just a circus really that you cant stop watching. She does not like to fly and scared to death of flying but she flys all the time for family vacaticons. Shes convincing but then not convincing, you can tell theres been alot of coaching that went on over the time  |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It looks to me like we are seeing the beginning of a reversal of the time-honored legal principle of “innocent until proven guilty”. A well prepared, well rehearsed accuser can now convict an accused perpetrator. She embarked on the preparation for this months ago. She had an abundance of professional help.
The fact that she doesn’t know who paid for the polygraph is evidence.
So it looks like the new standard will be “guilty until proven innocent”.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo I was going to reply to you but you were gone, lol, but yes I have been watching her facial expressions too and she gets a really confussed look quite offen and then her lawyer has to lean in to say something to her.. |
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| I'm listening to it while I work. It's very confusing to me. I'm very skeptical about Mrs. Ford's claims. I feel like she would have told somebody - something - somewhere along the way. I accept that Mrs. Ford might not remember the exact date of the (alleged) incident. Time does blur memories. But, I have hard time believing she never talked about it. I also have a hard time believing that she doesn't remember if she let the reporter see the notes of her therapy sessions while being interviewed for the newspaper, and she didn't know if her polygraph was recorded by video or audio. These were recent events and things you would pay attention to.
I'm also bothered by the fact that this incident is not being investigated. Why are other people not being interviewed about this? It's very hard to prove a he said- she said type of situation, but couldn't some time be spent checking into it? I personally feel both sides deserve that. Weather she is right or wrong. Attempt to let the truth come out.
It's interesting listening to the track the sex crimes prosecutor is taking with her questions. I keep waiting for a bomb to drop.
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-27 12:48 PM Frodo I was going to reply to you but you were gone, lol, but yes I have been watching her facial expressions too and she gets a really confussed look quite offen and then her lawyer has to lean in to say something to her..
I deleted and tried to change the comment but got derailed. I just see this now as a well orchestrated contrivance on the part of the Democrats likely planned months in advance. Somewhat like what Pres. Trump is going through with the Russia investigation. It's clear now that was preplanned even before he won the presidency (just in case). I see the same scenario here. This looks like a no-win situation for Republicans since if they go ahead with the vote on Kavanaugh women voters could be swayed in the mid-terms. |
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Location: Kansas | Interesting.......Ms. Ford says all the other people at the party who don't remember a thing about this incident.....well "it's because nothing happened to them." And her good friend who doesn't remember it "has health issues." Pretty lame excuses as you destroy a man's life. If I remember right you're an anti-Trump activist. Hope that little trivality is discussed at this hearing.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If your not watching this you really need to and listen to Brett Kavanaugh to what he is saying..  |
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| After listening to Judge Kavanagh - I'm ready for him to run for president. He just called them out and basically told them to kiss his ass. He's probably not the complete choir boy that he claims to be (non of us are) - but he's convincing.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | KindaClassey - 2018-09-26 3:31 PM
After listening to Judge Kavanagh - I'm ready for him to run for president. He just called them out and basically told them to kiss his ass. He's probably not the complete choir boy that he claims to be (non of us are) - but he's convincing.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Lindsay Graham took them to the woodshed.
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | I was so happy when Lindsey Graham let them have it. This is a farce, I have felt that way from the start. Fienstien sitting on this letter then pulling it out to delay the hearing was the ENTIRE motivation. No care or thought to the lives of both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh that get thrown to the wolves to justify their political actions. |
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| KindaClassey - 2018-09-27 1:00 PM
I'm listening to it while I work. It's very confusing to me. I'm very skeptical about Mrs. Ford's claims. I feel like she would have told somebody - something - somewhere along the way. I accept that Mrs. Ford might not remember the exact date of the (alleged) incident. Time does blur memories. But, I have hard time believing she never talked about it. I also have a hard time believing that she doesn't remember if she let the reporter see the notes of her therapy sessions while being interviewed for the newspaper, and she didn't know if her polygraph was recorded by video or audio. These were recent events and things you would pay attention to.
I'm also bothered by the fact that this incident is not being investigated. Why are other people not being interviewed about this? It's very hard to prove a he said- she said type of situation, but couldn't some time be spent checking into it? I personally feel both sides deserve that. Weather she is right or wrong. Attempt to let the truth come out.
It's interesting listening to the track the sex crimes prosecutor is taking with her questions. I keep waiting for a bomb to drop.
It will also be VERY interesting to hear what Kavanagh has to say later today.
They have been questioned and all say it never happened. One was a girl who was a close friend of hers that said it never happened. |
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| GLP - 2018-09-27 5:48 PM KindaClassey - 2018-09-27 1:00 PM I'm listening to it while I work. It's very confusing to me. I'm very skeptical about Mrs. Ford's claims. I feel like she would have told somebody - something - somewhere along the way. I accept that Mrs. Ford might not remember the exact date of the (alleged) incident. Time does blur memories. But, I have hard time believing she never talked about it. I also have a hard time believing that she doesn't remember if she let the reporter see the notes of her therapy sessions while being interviewed for the newspaper, and she didn't know if her polygraph was recorded by video or audio. These were recent events and things you would pay attention to. I'm also bothered by the fact that this incident is not being investigated. Why are other people not being interviewed about this? It's very hard to prove a he said- she said type of situation, but couldn't some time be spent checking into it? I personally feel both sides deserve that. Weather she is right or wrong. Attempt to let the truth come out. It's interesting listening to the track the sex crimes prosecutor is taking with her questions. I keep waiting for a bomb to drop. It will also be VERY interesting to hear what Kavanagh has to say later today. They have been questioned and all say it never happened. One was a girl who was a close friend of hers that said it never happened.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2018-09-27 6:06 PM GLP - 2018-09-27 5:48 PM KindaClassey - 2018-09-27 1:00 PM I'm listening to it while I work. It's very confusing to me. I'm very skeptical about Mrs. Ford's claims. I feel like she would have told somebody - something - somewhere along the way. I accept that Mrs. Ford might not remember the exact date of the (alleged) incident. Time does blur memories. But, I have hard time believing she never talked about it. I also have a hard time believing that she doesn't remember if she let the reporter see the notes of her therapy sessions while being interviewed for the newspaper, and she didn't know if her polygraph was recorded by video or audio. These were recent events and things you would pay attention to. I'm also bothered by the fact that this incident is not being investigated. Why are other people not being interviewed about this? It's very hard to prove a he said- she said type of situation, but couldn't some time be spent checking into it? I personally feel both sides deserve that. Weather she is right or wrong. Attempt to let the truth come out. It's interesting listening to the track the sex crimes prosecutor is taking with her questions. I keep waiting for a bomb to drop. It will also be VERY interesting to hear what Kavanagh has to say later today. They have been questioned and all say it never happened. One was a girl who was a close friend of hers that said it never happened.
Edit to add,On how Feinstein got really nervous when Mr. Cruz asked her how the letter was leaked, she got really shifty.. Good Job Ted
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Location: Kansas | Not that it's important but I though the loud-mouth Alyssa Milano was going to break her neck trying to keep her head tilted enough to stay in the camera frame. You were so cute on Who's the Boss.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-27 6:22 PM Not that it's important but I though the loud-mouth Alyssa Milano was going to break her neck trying to keep her head tilted enough to stay in the camera frame. You were so cute on Who's the Boss.
You grew up to be a Hollywood mouse's butt.
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-27 6:25 PM Frodo - 2018-09-27 6:22 PM Not that it's important but I though the loud-mouth Alyssa Milano was going to break her neck trying to keep her head tilted enough to stay in the camera frame. You were so cute on Who's the Boss.
You grew up to be a Hollywood mouse's butt. Oh geezzz I missed that, but I really didnt noticed her where was she sitting?
She was behind and to the right of Kavanaugh about three rows back on the aisle. The hair up and her face in a knot trying to look disgusted as she's set herself up as a Ford supporter. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2018-09-27 4:15 PM Lindsay Graham took them to the woodshed. I have a ton of respect for him for saying what we all think.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-27 6:28 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-27 6:25 PM Frodo - 2018-09-27 6:22 PM Not that it's important but I though the loud-mouth Alyssa Milano was going to break her neck trying to keep her head tilted enough to stay in the camera frame. You were so cute on Who's the Boss.
You grew up to be a Hollywood mouse's butt. Oh geezzz I missed that, but I really didnt noticed her where was she sitting?
LOL, Yes now I remember, I didnt know it was Alyssa thou, I just thought it was another nut case, oh wait she isss a nut case  .. at least no one was wearing a pink V hat, lol.. |
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| I heard the whole thing on NPR. here is my take on the whole thing. Dr. Ford dramatic and emotional but with several gaps and holes in her answers. She had no one to back up her statements all four she said where there said it never happened. I would give a B for her performance. Judge Kavanaugh direct solid answers emotional and heart felt. No holes in his answers. I would give him an A. I think the Dem;s looked liked complete jerk's they are all Attorney's and I would not hire any of them to represent me for a traffic ticket. The Republican's where more than polite to Dr. Ford. At the end of the day it is still a he said she said. But I have to give the day to Judge Kavanaugh. |
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Location: OH. IO | what I love is the truthful WOMEN on this board that don't just fall down and scream for woman to be believed JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMAN!!!! I ALSO BELIEVE IF THE MEDIA COVERED REAL WORKING WOMAN, they would hear that you just can't get away with accusing people without providing any facts.I feel bad for ANY woman OR man that has been abused,but the falsehood of alot of woman just ****es me off. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The Democrats don’t really care about an FBI investigation. They only want to delay the process until after the mid terms, on the outside chance they can capture control of the senate. For the same reason, Feinstein didn’t hold onto Ford’s account because she wanted to respect her desire to remain anonymous.
That’s all a ruse. Feinstein held out because it was a trump card to create the delay. I don’t believe for a second Feinstein’s claim that the leak to the WaPo didn’t come from her office. Since PROVING A NEGATIVE seems to be the Democrats new standard, then Feinstein needs to prove the leak did not come from her office.
Can any of you imagine the crap they can drag out of your days as a 16 year old child? Imagine getting pummeled about crude fart jokes, sexual innuendo’s about girls (or boys), or...heaven forbid......beer drinking (gasp).
Kavanaugh did exactly what he had to do. He blasted them and called it what it was. He took a page from Justice Thomas’ playbook and he openly expressed outrage. Lindsay Graham basically saved the day. Finally, some real passion and fire. This should serve as a seminal moment for conservatives going forward.
That screwy idea of having that prosecutor ask questions of Ford for the Republicans was a horrible flop. That was a cowardly maneuver, because the GOP wanted to avoid looking like they were persecuting some innocent, immature, babe-in-the-woods girl.....who was supremely trained and rehearsed.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | For those of you who missed today’s spectacle, here it is in 5 minutes.
Just imagine Al Pacino as Graham. This is what he did, basically:
https://youtu.be/lAtzy-l3H1g |
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Location: Kansas | Brit Hume remarked though that using the prosecutor might have been good in the respect, as I would see it, that if one or two of the Senators had become overly aggressive without meaning to, toward Ms. Ford, it could have been political suicide.
Did you know that Kavanaugh's mother, as a judge back when, had forced a forecloseure on Ms. Ford's parents house. Motive for revenge? |
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Location: Kansas | Bear - 2018-09-27 7:31 PM For those of you who missed today’s spectacle, here it is in 5 minutes. Just imagine Al Pacino as Graham. This is what he did, basically: https://youtu.be/lAtzy-l3H1g
Beautiful!!!!
"There is nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit."
They tried............... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frodo - 2018-09-27 7:36 PM Brit Hume remarked though that using the prosecutor might have been good in the respect, as I would see it, that if one or two of the Senators had become overly aggressive without meaning to, toward Ms. Ford, it could have been political suicide.
Did you know that Kavanaugh's mother, as a judge back when, had forced a forecloseure on Ms. Ford's parents house. Motive for revenge?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/18/brett-kavanaughs-mother-is-judge-who-dismissed-foreclosure-action-against-accuser-fords-parents.html |
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Location: Arkansas | Frodo - 2018-09-27 8:05 AM
Bear - 2018-09-27 7:47 AM . Jane Doe has a name. It's Julie Swetnik and she has a very questionable background including getting waaaay behind on her taxes (tens of thousands) but somehow magically recovering. She was once a client of Ms. Katz who is Ms. Ford's attorney. Plus she has an ex-boyfriend who had to get a restraining order against her because she threatened him and his child. He's suspicious of her story to say the least.
Lindsey Graham is on this like a duck on a Junebug.
Momma said Sen Graham was priceless. . . . |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | As they prepare to vote today...I hope that the weasels in Washington think long and hard about what will happen if they allow this smear campaign tactic to derail this nominee. If they do not vote to confirm him...this will make it Open Season on every single one of them in the future. If un-provable allegations with zero evidence from high school are enough to condemn a man in the name of politics...none of them are safe. They had better understand that...and vote him in.
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That's what I get for trying to read legalese. It appears Ms. Ford owed the Kavanaugh's a favor then. |
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| I don’t know who’s house it happened at or even what year it happened. I don’t know if I got there before everyone else or after. I don’t know how I got there or how I got home over 8 miles away (at the age of 15). My life time friend doesn’t remember any of this ( and the other 3 people I said were there testified under oath they don’t know anything about this). I have a fear of flying , but have no problem jet-setting all over the world while on vacation. I’ve been on airplanes more in the past two months than most people in a year, but my fear is completely legit. I don’t know who paid for my hotel and polygraph test( the afternoon of my grandmothers funeral, or maybe it was the next day, who knows). And guess what? I flew there. Oh and that polygraph, it was only two questions, neither of which were about Kavanaugh. But hey, I passed so that’s all that matters. And my PhD in psychology definitely, in no way, helped me with it or my testimony today. My friends on the beach encouraged me to continue contacting the media with my story (because we were running out of time). I can’t name them, so we’ll just call them beach friends. Yet while giving such great advice, none were willing to be character witnesses. Meanwhile, Judge Kavanaugh had hundreds of character witnesses step up in a matter of days. My lawyers, out of the kindness of their hearts, are helping me for FREE yet I have a “needed” gofundme page that currently is sitting at $473,622. I’m so desperately in need of help there’s even a second gofundme with $209,987. I promise though I’m not getting anything out of my testimony, that money is just going to cover my expenses. I’m super smart. I have a PhD and I teach graduate students. I know lots of big words, but it should be totally believable that I don’t understand basic questions. I was the only person in the United States that didn’t know Congress agreed to come to me instead of me going to DC. They really do care about my flying phobia after all. Get the picture yet, America? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frodo - 2018-09-28 8:02 AM That's what I get for trying to read legalese. It appears Ms. Ford owed the Kavanaugh's a favor then.
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | Lindsey Graham's speech just now was wonderful. How can anyone that hears that not understand what is happening to our country. If we don't have people that stand up for what is right and true we are lost. |
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| luvropin - 2018-09-28 9:54 AM Lindsey Graham's speech just now was wonderful. How can anyone that hears that not understand what is happening to our country. If we don't have people that stand up for what is right and true we are lost.
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Good job on your above post rodeomom................you should present it to the Dem Senators who are throwing another fit this morning.
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| Frodo - 2018-09-28 10:36 AM Good job on your above post rodeomom................you should present it to the Dem Senators who are throwing another fit this morning.
Thanks, I just copied and pasted but it is spot on isn’t it |
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Location: Illinois | jake16 - 2018-09-27 6:54 PM
what I love is the truthful WOMEN on this board that don't just fall down and scream for woman to be believed JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMAN!!!! I ALSO BELIEVE IF THE MEDIA COVERED REAL WORKING WOMAN, they would hear that you just can't get away with accusing people without providing any facts.I feel bad for ANY woman OR man that has been abused,but the falsehood of alot of woman just ****es me off.
I'm a registered Democrat too & I think it's straight bogus |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-09-27 11:49 AM
jake16 - 2018-09-27 6:54 PM
what I love is the truthful WOMEN on this board that don't just fall down and scream for woman to be believed JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMAN!!!! I ALSO BELIEVE IF THE MEDIA COVERED REAL WORKING WOMAN, they would hear that you just can't get away with accusing people without providing any facts.I feel bad for ANY woman OR man that has been abused,but the falsehood of alot of woman just ****es me off.
I'm a registered Democrat too & I think it's straight bogus
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | My stomach is in knots thinking about the vote that's coming....
Pray friends. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Sen. Jeff Flake said he would be a "yes" vote and is now being harassed by protesters. Protesting seems to be Dems favorite sport.....swarming in the street like termites was never anything I personally would want to be a part of and it rarely has any effect other than to anger people.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Frodo - 2018-09-28 11:50 AM Sen. Jeff Flake said he would be a "yes" vote and is now being harassed by protesters. Protesting seems to be Dems favorite sport.....swarming in the street like termites was never anything I personally would want to be a part of and it rarely has any effect other than to anger people.
Most protestors have degrees that no one is hiring for so they can't do much else than protest...It isn't like most have a job...
I wonder how many of them can tell you how each branch of Government works... who plays what role, etc...
Maybe that was a bit harsh.... But... mostly true... No?   |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | If you wonder about motive.
https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=Bl...
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Flake is a Trump-hating, lame duck. He’s very damaged goods in Az, which is why he’s not running again.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave in a scorched-earth, blaze of glory.
It might be his way of getting one last blow in at Trump.
That kind of attitude might explain why his nose is so deformed. |
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Location: Kansas | IRunOnFaith - 2018-09-28 12:07 PM Frodo - 2018-09-28 11:50 AM Sen. Jeff Flake said he would be a "yes" vote and is now being harassed by protesters. Protesting seems to be Dems favorite sport.....swarming in the street like termites was never anything I personally would want to be a part of and it rarely has any effect other than to anger people.
Most protestors have degrees that no one is hiring for so they can't do much else than protest...It isn't like most have a job...
I wonder how many of them can tell you how each branch of Government works... who plays what role, etc...
Maybe that was a bit harsh.... But... mostly true... No?
When Trump was campaigning and protesters blocked the road (think it was in AZ), one guy was asked why he was protesting. He said "they" just handed me $50 and a Mexican flag and told me to cause trouble.
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Location: Opelousas, LA | jbhoot - 2018-09-27 6:38 PM I heard the whole thing on NPR. here is my take on the whole thing. Dr. Ford dramatic and emotional but with several gaps and holes in her answers. She had no one to back up her statements all four she said where there said it never happened. I would give a B for her performance. Judge Kavanaugh direct solid answers emotional and heart felt. No holes in his answers. I would give him an A. I think the Dem;s looked liked complete jerk's they are all Attorney's and I would not hire any of them to represent me for a traffic ticket. The Republican's where more than polite to Dr. Ford. At the end of the day it is still a he said she said. But I have to give the day to Judge Kavanaugh.
Will someone please explain why there was no follow up when Ford was pretty much caught lying about her fear of flying? Also, why was Kavanaughs yearbook fair game but Fords social media and three years worth of Holton-Arms yearbooks were scrubbed from the internet right before her accusation was leaked? I saw a few screenshots of the Holton -Arms yearbooks and I promise if they would have been as scrutinized as Kavanaughs yearbooks, her traumatized victim act would have been blown right out of the water.
I am so very sick of the political double standard! I took turns watching CNN and Fox last night, I swear it was like watching the news from two different worlds. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Poor Christine Blase’ Ford. She’s made so many sacrifices. She had to move her family because of death threats. She has been the lone voice. No support whatsoever. She endured that flight to DC to testify even though she is terrified at the notion of flying. That’s the kind of sacrifice she’s making. Life will never be the same for her.
That’s what the Democrats would like us to believe.
Here’s the reality: She’s already a folk hero on the left. Her legal services, including the polygraph (given while she was mourning her grandma’s death), are all pro bono. She loves to jet off to places like Tahiti, Hawaii, and the Outer Banks....lots. Her GoFundMe accounts are already up over $900,000.
She will write books, give paid speeches, and have movies made about her.
All-in-all, not a bad day. |
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Location: East Texas | And what are they doing about voting today? Any updates on that? |
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| horsesinharleton - 2018-09-28 1:43 PM
And what are they doing about voting today? Any updates on that?
I saw postponing a week to do an FBI investigations with a "narrow scope." Pointless to me as someone will only complain it wasn't thorough.
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Location: Kansas | horsesinharleton - 2018-09-28 1:43 PM
And what are they doing about voting today? Any updates on that?
Democrats cornered Jeff Flake (cozy little meeting) and talked him into going along with their FBI investigation obsession. So he voted to move on but with the caveat that there would be an investigation. So much could happen in that time and Dems will plan on it being chaotic.
Flake fell right into it. |
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Location: East Texas | Frodo - 2018-09-28 1:57 PM
horsesinharleton - 2018-09-28 1:43 PM
And what are they doing about voting today? Any updates on that?
Democrats cornered Jeff Flake (cozy little meeting ) and talked him into going along with their FBI investigation obsession. So he voted to move on but with the caveat that there would be an investigation. So much could happen in that time and Dems will plan on it being chaotic.
Flake fell right into it.
That shouldn't surprise us and the Dems are getting exactly what this is all about... more time so there isn't a vote before the elections. A blind man can see that! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | On a party-line vote, they moved it out of the committee to a floor debate and final vote. The FBI investigation was the stipulation Flake made before voting yes.
Basically, he has made a demand they must honor, because they can’t afford to lose more than one vote.
It’s called “making sausage” in political parlance.
If they honor Flake’s request, they supposedly will hold a final vote probably October 8. |
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| Senator Flake is a gigantic (opposite of a penis).
Edited by Whiteboy 2018-09-28 2:17 PM
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I think that the protester that corner Sen. Jeff Flake and let loose on him was a set up, to me she was a fake, she was paid to act this way by the Dems, this was a good excuse on his part I think so that he could ask for the FBI investigation, it was all an act, why would they let her attack him this way at this time, good timing on the Dems part to let/have a protester slip threw.
Where were the police/guards when this was happening?
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Location: Illinois | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-28 2:27 PM
I think that the protester that corner Sen. Jeff Flake and let loose on him was a set up, to me she was a fake, she was paid to act this way by the Dems, this was a good excuse on his part I think so that he could ask for the FBI investigation, it was all an act, why would they let her attack him this way at this time, good timing on the Dems part to let/have a protester slip threw.
Where were the police/guards when this was happening?
They were probably paid to look the other way & let them get to him. I highly doubt and security or police presence in a government building is any better than the rest of them. They know how it works there |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-09-28 2:38 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-28 2:27 PM I think that the protester that corner Sen. Jeff Flake and let loose on him was a set up, to me she was a fake, she was paid to act this way by the Dems, this was a good excuse on his part I think so that he could ask for the FBI investigation, it was all an act, why would they let her attack him this way at this time, good timing on the Dems part to let/have a protester slip threw.
Where were the police/guards when this was happening? They were probably paid to look the other way & let them get to him. I highly doubt and security or police presence in a government building is any better than the rest of them. They know how it works there
You're probably right, Just seems so fishly to me with the perfect timing of the protester |
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Location: South Dakota | Senator Flake is a wretched piece of something, extending this character assassinating nightmare, allowing the Democrats more time, to cause mayhem. Since I can't do really much about this, except pray, and it is causing me to feel really angry at the whole political sh*tshow, I am turning away from any and all news on TV. Not listening to any pundits on TV, maybe tune into Limbaugh or Levin, for an update, and focus on things I can control. So fed up!!!! Hoping for a silverlining, somewhere in this dark cloud, over this nation. |
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Location: Ky | What the dems are doing is reprehensable. But it pales in comparison to what ***** MCConnel, Karl Rove and Ken Star would be doing if this was a democrat nominee.
The least you folks should do is own your hypocrisy.
Going by McConnel's own rules there should be be no supreme court vote in an election year.
It's all a ruse by both parties. To claim one party is doing it worse than the other is just plain stupidity. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2018-09-28 7:45 PM
What the dems are doing is reprehensable. But it pales in comparison to what ***** MCConnel, Karl Rove and Ken Star would be doing if this was a democrat nominee.
The least you folks should do is own your hypocrisy.
Going by McConnel's own rules there should be be no supreme court vote in an election year.
It's all a ruse by both parties. To claim one party is doing it worse than the other is just plain stupidity.
Whoa there slim. I’m your Huckleberry!
What does Rove have to do with any of this?
As to McConnell, explain, specifically, which “rules” he broke.
If memory serves me, I seem to recall a recent president repeatedly making the point that “elections have consequences”. Didn’t Obama make that assertion? McConnell didn’t break any rules. He took advantage of the fact that the Republicans held the majority in the Senate. Three years earlier, the implementation of the “nuclear option” by Harry Reid opened up the Pandora’s Box, thus paving the way for a simple majority to block any nomination to the Supreme Court. In effect, the dirty trick by Dingy Harry came back to bite Obama and the Democrats in the ass. Again, to quote Obama, “elections have consequences”. Any “broken rules” you wish to cite can be traced back to Reid.
For a conservative, the blocking of any consideration of Merrick Garland, was a Godsend. We got Gorsuch instead. Try telling us with a straight face that the Democrats wouldn’t do the same dam thing if given the chance.
Ken Starr was an independent counsel. I don’t see what an independent counsel has to do with Kavanaugh’s confirmation battle.
Your citing our hypocrisy is an excellent example of projection.
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| jd&ez - 2018-09-28 7:45 PM
What the dems are doing is reprehensable. But it pales in comparison to what ***** MCConnel, Karl Rove and Ken Star would be doing if this was a democrat nominee.
The least you folks should do is own your hypocrisy.
Going by McConnel's own rules there should be be no supreme court vote in an election year.
It's all a ruse by both parties. To claim one party is doing it worse than the other is just plain stupidity.
And just exactly where did McConnel get the idea of no Supreme Court vote in an election year? Answer Joe Bidon in the Thomas confirmation. |
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| I watched the entire thing. Here's my perspective as a sexual assault survivor(34 years, I was 10, remember a hell of a lot) Independent, mother of an 18 yr old son.
Ford is a farce. Her testimony came across as disingenuous, the emotion behind her testimony was flat out superficial IMO.
My son, 18 much like Kavanaugh in his love of sports, friends w/everyone including girls, goes to parties etc, I now wonder if in 10,20,30 years from now someone making these kinds of accusations against him. These are scary times for men in this country when the presumption of innocence is gone.
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I certainly haven’t let it give me nightmares and rule my life. If she’s that fragile, she shouldn’t be in the field she chose. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2018-09-25 4:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I got bored and decided to read this whole thread again and just saw this, I heard the same thing about the heavey drinking and being mean on one of the talk radios I think it was Rush, but I know that Rush thinks its all bogus, this man was only trying to make things worst and of course they {Dems} all ran like H**L with this. I just could not belive how they were so stuck on his yearbook, my goodness, I had crazy things writin in mine as others, we were just kids being a goofy kid LOL. I really dont know to many high schoolers that didnt drink some while in high school, I bet most of those dems liked doing drinking games too, I loved doing quarters when I got older lol.. But I grew up and had my boys and hubby and I dont drink any more. Awww but the younger days we did have alot of fun  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2018-09-26 12:22 PM Whiteboy - 2018-09-26 12:08 PM Bear - 2018-09-26 11:29 AM NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:09 AM Bear - 2018-09-25 10:33 PM That story has been out there for several days. It won’t amount to a hill of beans. Norma, I heard you were a stripper when you got out of high school, by the way. My neighbor saw you in Omaha pole dancing. That was 50 years ago, but still... LOL .... I was never IN Omaha ..... and if you knew me in high school, I was so skinny and not very endowed so I doubt if anyone would have paid to see me strip ...... LOL Norma, he said you were a hottie back in those days. He said he saw you, therefore you are lying. He licked a $5 bill and slapped it on your as$.....the accuser was traumatized because you rejected him. He is emotionally scarred for life. The new paradigm is that the accuser is always right until proven otherwise.....therefore, prove to us how he is wrong. Otherwise, you are guilty.
Licking a dollar bill would be like sticking a needle in my eye {gross gross gross}
I bet my bottom dollar Norma has never been near one of those places, so she is innocent untill proven guilty, lol
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Location: mn | I’ve been alive longer than 5 minutes, so I am aware politicians can be snakes. Not shocked by their stunt. What’s more disturbing is that there are everyday people out there who believe this heaping, dumpster pile of crap. Or worse yet, know it’s a sham, and doesn’t care.
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| This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over.
Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over. Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women.
No words just a hug after reading this  , never liked being around most women, the ones I know not all but just a few were nothing but drama that loved causing trouble and its all about me me me. |
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Location: Arkansas | iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM
This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over.
Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women.
If more women were like you, there would be way less of this mess that goes on in the world today of females who really DID NOT suffer through what real victims (and as you say, eventual survivors) do. Good for you for the life you made and for not allowing what happened to define or hold you down |
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Location: Kansas | I just watched Justice with Judge Jeanine. Always a great show and she couldn't be any more disgusted with the Demonrats (her word) but also with Republicans for buckling at every turn on the Kavanaugh debacle.
Like so many she believes "something" happened to Ms. Ford and she's just mixed up. Michelle Malkin, a guest, the same as said Ms. Ford is lying through her teeth. I'm with Michelle 100%. Christine Ford is going to come out of this a millionaire and should be in line for an Academy Award for acting. She certainly had plenty of time to rehearse her lines. The FBI shouldn't be investigating Judge Kavanaugh. They should be after Ford and her attorneys.
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| Frodo - 2018-09-29 9:15 PM
I just watched Justice with Judge Jeanine. Always a great show and she couldn't be any more disgusted with the Demonrats (her word) but also with Republicans for buckling at every turn on the Kavanaugh debacle.
Like so many she believes "something" happened to Ms. Ford and she's just mixed up. Michelle Malkin, a guest, the same as said Ms. Ford is lying through her teeth. I'm with Michelle 100%. Christine Ford is going to come out of this a millionaire and should be in line for an Academy Award for acting. She certainly had plenty of time to rehearse her lines. The FBI shouldn't be investigating Judge Kavanaugh. They should be after Ford and her attorneys.
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Location: Kansas | Saw this on FB
Every woman has a right to be believed unless:
You're raped by Bill Clinton
Beaten by Keith Ellison
Groped by Cory Booker
or Killed by Ted Kennedy
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I only was able to watch parts of her remarks, and a lot of things struck me as odd right from the start. The most conspicuous oddity to me was her gasping and sobbing.....with no tears. Not one tear. I looked through dozens of photos, and watched videos. I didn’t see a single tear. Also, that body language and innocent schoolgirl persona, with that meek 15 year old’s voice, all seemed orchestrated and rehearsed. It’s easy to just accept the media’s consensus that her pain was real, but I just don’t. I don’t buy the brave, babe in the woods”, traumatized victim performance.......and a tearless one at that. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2018-09-30 3:39 PM I only was able to watch parts of her remarks, and a lot of things struck me as odd right from the start. The most conspicuous oddity to me was her gasping and sobbing.....with no tears. Not one tear. I looked through dozens of photos, and watched videos. I didn’t see a single tear. Also, that body language and innocent schoolgirl persona, with that meek 15 year old’s voice, all seemed orchestrated and rehearsed. It’s easy to just accept the media’s consensus that her pain was real, but I just don’t. I don’t buy the brave, babe in the woods”, traumatized victim performance.......and a tearless one at that.
Oh yes the Croc tears, give me a break, boo hoo, she was as fake acting as they come. How about how she was always looking over her glasses with that pity me look, man she really had the dems wraped around her little finger, they all seem like big buddys with all the kidding around and laughing they were doing.. But when Brett got on they were treating him like trash, and they looked at him like he was sitting there with a ski mask and knife in hand, makes me sick. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-30 3:51 PM
Bear - 2018-09-30 3:39 PM I only was able to watch parts of her remarks, and a lot of things struck me as odd right from the start. The most conspicuous oddity to me was her gasping and sobbing.....with no tears. Not one tear. I looked through dozens of photos, and watched videos. I didn’t see a single tear. Also, that body language and innocent schoolgirl persona, with that meek 15 year old’s voice, all seemed orchestrated and rehearsed. It’s easy to just accept the media’s consensus that her pain was real, but I just don’t. I don’t buy the brave, babe in the woods”, traumatized victim performance.......and a tearless one at that.
Oh yes the Croc tears, give me a break, boo hoo, she was as fake acting as they come. How about how she was always looking over her glasses with that pity me look, man she really had the dems wraped around her little finger, they all seem like big buddys with all the kidding around and laughing they were doing.. But when Brett got on they were treating him like trash, and they looked at him like he was sitting there with a ski mask and knife in hand, makes me sick.
NO! I didn’t say she had crocodile tears. I said I didn’t see ANY tears. Maybe someone else saw tears, but I looked for them, and didn’t see one. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2018-09-30 4:05 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-30 3:51 PM Bear - 2018-09-30 3:39 PM I only was able to watch parts of her remarks, and a lot of things struck me as odd right from the start. The most conspicuous oddity to me was her gasping and sobbing.....with no tears. Not one tear. I looked through dozens of photos, and watched videos. I didn’t see a single tear. Also, that body language and innocent schoolgirl persona, with that meek 15 year old’s voice, all seemed orchestrated and rehearsed. It’s easy to just accept the media’s consensus that her pain was real, but I just don’t. I don’t buy the brave, babe in the woods”, traumatized victim performance.......and a tearless one at that. Oh yes the Croc tears, give me a break, boo hoo, she was as fake acting as they come. How about how she was always looking over her glasses with that pity me look, man she really had the dems wraped around her little finger, they all seem like big buddys with all the kidding around and laughing they were doing.. But when Brett got on they were treating him like trash, and they looked at him like he was sitting there with a ski mask and knife in hand, makes me sick. NO! I didn’t say she had crocodile tears. I said I didn’t see ANY tears. Maybe someone else saw tears, but I looked for them, and didn’t see one.
I did see a bit of moisture around her eyes, thats why I was saying crocodile tears, there was nothing sincere about her at all, now Bretts was real she was fake.. |
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Location: Kansas | Once again the Dems are working for delay. After holding on to the letter for six weeks, now that Sen. Flake had agreed to allow an FBI investigation lasting no longer than one week, the left wants more time. The moron Bernie Sanders wants possible perjury charges brought against Brett Kavanaugh saying he wasn't honest in the hearing. Wonder where that old dude got that from......and why not Ms. Ford included in his suspicious little mind. |
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Location: Illinois | iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM
This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over.
Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women.
I got into a facebook argument with a friend the other day, she's super TeamFord with an extreme passion and super passionate about the #metoo thing and women's rights in general. We butt heads a lot, but what she posted the other day I couldn't ignore. She said unless you've been a victim of sexual assault you're not allowed to have an opinion on someone else's assault. Then expanded to any life situation, including if you don't actively do something on a daily basis to keep you from getting attacked you can't judge those who do or have in the past, nor can you judge someone's motive for attacking someone. And then started with the all women have the right to be believed stuff. My response wasn't so nice to her about it, most of my response was simply stating that was bogus and how she has no right to tell other what they can/can't have an opinion on or talk about. One of her friends asked me if I was at this part with Ford and I said no, so she said exactly, so shut up. I fired back the same question at her lol. But this whole thing has gone so far beyond this incident, it's blown up social media & gotten everyone just crazy. I've had some instances where I wouldn't say I was attacked, but was made very uncomfortable and it hasn't affected me with other people nor have I really spent time thinking about it or letting it bother me. I would never ever dream about dredging it up with those people now. Everything has gotten so out of hand, I've been avoiding facebook |
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Location: Kansas | This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM
This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
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| Bear - 2018-10-01 2:14 PM
Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM
This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
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| Frodo - 2018-10-01 3:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
Obama Endorses 81 Democrats for Midterm Elections; Snubs Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM
This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over.
Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women.
I got into a facebook argument with a friend the other day, she's super TeamFord with an extreme passion and super passionate about the #metoo thing and women's rights in general. We butt heads a lot, but what she posted the other day I couldn't ignore. She said unless you've been a victim of sexual assault you're not allowed to have an opinion on someone else's assault. Then expanded to any life situation, including if you don't actively do something on a daily basis to keep you from getting attacked you can't judge those who do or have in the past, nor can you judge someone's motive for attacking someone. And then started with the all women have the right to be believed stuff. My response wasn't so nice to her about it, most of my response was simply stating that was bogus and how she has no right to tell other what they can/can't have an opinion on or talk about. One of her friends asked me if I was at this part with Ford and I said no, so she said exactly, so shut up. I fired back the same question at her lol. But this whole thing has gone so far beyond this incident, it's blown up social media & gotten everyone just crazy. I've had some instances where I wouldn't say I was attacked, but was made very uncomfortable and it hasn't affected me with other people nor have I really spent time thinking about it or letting it bother me. I would never ever dream about dredging it up with those people now. Everything has gotten so out of hand, I've been avoiding facebook
I've steered clear of Facebook discussions about it bc these people are flat out hysterical. I refuse to be drug down a rabbit hole and this #metoo is a farce. It continues to label women victims long after they survived never letting them truly heal. |
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iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM
This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over.
Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women.
I got into a facebook argument with a friend the other day, she's super TeamFord with an extreme passion and super passionate about the #metoo thing and women's rights in general. We butt heads a lot, but what she posted the other day I couldn't ignore. She said unless you've been a victim of sexual assault you're not allowed to have an opinion on someone else's assault. Then expanded to any life situation, including if you don't actively do something on a daily basis to keep you from getting attacked you can't judge those who do or have in the past, nor can you judge someone's motive for attacking someone. And then started with the all women have the right to be believed stuff. My response wasn't so nice to her about it, most of my response was simply stating that was bogus and how she has no right to tell other what they can/can't have an opinion on or talk about. One of her friends asked me if I was at this part with Ford and I said no, so she said exactly, so shut up. I fired back the same question at her lol. But this whole thing has gone so far beyond this incident, it's blown up social media & gotten everyone just crazy. I've had some instances where I wouldn't say I was attacked, but was made very uncomfortable and it hasn't affected me with other people nor have I really spent time thinking about it or letting it bother me. I would never ever dream about dredging it up with those people now. Everything has gotten so out of hand, I've been avoiding facebook
Oh Facebook is a mess right now. I had someone "attack" me for sharing Lindsey Graham's speech after I watched the entire eight hour or so hearing. I use the "attack" word very loosely because all she could do was call me names like gross and then when I started asking her about the facts she disappeared. I am all for people having their own opinions and actually enjoy a good, educated debate but don't waste my time calling me names when you can't even back up your own opinions with facts.  |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | jbhoot - 2018-10-01 6:03 PM Bear - 2018-10-01 2:14 PM Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
.....and dumber than a box of rocks, with insanely crazy eyes. True but she is HOT....LOL!!!
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Location: Opelousas, LA | EagleJess - 2018-10-01 9:53 PM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-10-01 1:43 PM iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over. Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women. I got into a facebook argument with a friend the other day, she's super TeamFord with an extreme passion and super passionate about the #metoo thing and women's rights in general. We butt heads a lot, but what she posted the other day I couldn't ignore. She said unless you've been a victim of sexual assault you're not allowed to have an opinion on someone else's assault. Then expanded to any life situation, including if you don't actively do something on a daily basis to keep you from getting attacked you can't judge those who do or have in the past, nor can you judge someone's motive for attacking someone. And then started with the all women have the right to be believed stuff. My response wasn't so nice to her about it, most of my response was simply stating that was bogus and how she has no right to tell other what they can/can't have an opinion on or talk about. One of her friends asked me if I was at this part with Ford and I said no, so she said exactly, so shut up. I fired back the same question at her lol. But this whole thing has gone so far beyond this incident, it's blown up social media & gotten everyone just crazy. I've had some instances where I wouldn't say I was attacked, but was made very uncomfortable and it hasn't affected me with other people nor have I really spent time thinking about it or letting it bother me. I would never ever dream about dredging it up with those people now. Everything has gotten so out of hand, I've been avoiding facebook Oh Facebook is a mess right now. I had someone "attack" me for sharing Lindsey Graham's speech after I watched the entire eight hour or so hearing. I use the "attack" word very loosely because all she could do was call me names like gross and then when I started asking her about the facts she disappeared. I am all for people having their own opinions and actually enjoy a good, educated debate but don't waste my time calling me names when you can't even back up your own opinions with facts.
Yep, social media is crazy right now. One of my husbands coaches from HS (and hubby was one of those "ride or die" players that worked his tail off ) just unfriended him because he called Beto O'Rourke a Liberal POS. Gotta love it when people can't engage in an educated debate or just agree to disagree, have to unfriend you when they have nothing rational to say. |
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EagleJess - 2018-10-01 9:53 PM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2018-10-01 1:43 PM iloveequine40 - 2018-09-29 1:23 PM This whole #metoo movement and Kavanaugh case has really gotten me to thinking about my own experience. The thing that irritates me most is I am not a sexual assault VICTIM I am a sexual assault SURVIVOR for 34 years and God knows I have my issues bc of it but I have lived a good life, not Dr. Ford good but good. I have 2 BEAUTIFUL successful children an amazing husband, horses a little money in the bank etc. I WAS a victim but I SURVIVED and that's what bothers me most about the language surrounding this case or any others for that matter. I so badly want to publicly tell my story to counter balance the farce #metoo but it would cause collateral damage to innocent people who weren't even born at the time. The person involved is in prison. For me it's over. Let me just say, it wasnt the men in my life that treated me poorly when my assault became public, it was the women. I got into a facebook argument with a friend the other day, she's super TeamFord with an extreme passion and super passionate about the #metoo thing and women's rights in general. We butt heads a lot, but what she posted the other day I couldn't ignore. She said unless you've been a victim of sexual assault you're not allowed to have an opinion on someone else's assault. Then expanded to any life situation, including if you don't actively do something on a daily basis to keep you from getting attacked you can't judge those who do or have in the past, nor can you judge someone's motive for attacking someone. And then started with the all women have the right to be believed stuff. My response wasn't so nice to her about it, most of my response was simply stating that was bogus and how she has no right to tell other what they can/can't have an opinion on or talk about. One of her friends asked me if I was at this part with Ford and I said no, so she said exactly, so shut up. I fired back the same question at her lol. But this whole thing has gone so far beyond this incident, it's blown up social media & gotten everyone just crazy. I've had some instances where I wouldn't say I was attacked, but was made very uncomfortable and it hasn't affected me with other people nor have I really spent time thinking about it or letting it bother me. I would never ever dream about dredging it up with those people now. Everything has gotten so out of hand, I've been avoiding facebook Oh Facebook is a mess right now. I had someone "attack" me for sharing Lindsey Graham's speech after I watched the entire eight hour or so hearing. I use the "attack" word very loosely because all she could do was call me names like gross and then when I started asking her about the facts she disappeared. I am all for people having their own opinions and actually enjoy a good, educated debate but don't waste my time calling me names when you can't even back up your own opinions with facts.
I did delete and block a Democrat friend bc he was flat wearing me out during election and ironically he is a mysogonist who was constantly posting inappropriate comments on my stuff. Having said that I've unfollowed a few Republican friends bc of their incessant rantings daily. I've basically become a troll lol
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Location: Kansas | vjls - 2018-10-01 7:13 PM Frodo - 2018-10-01 3:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
Obama Endorses 81 Democrats for Midterm Elections; Snubs Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 3156
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | According to the New York Slimes, the latest controversy about Kavanaugh is that he was in a bar room brawl back in his college days. The headline blockbuster scoop is that he was questioned by police for throwing ice at someone. That’s where we are in 2018. The country is in the midst of civil war and this is the headline story. |
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Location: East Texas | My husband told me over 15 years ago that he believed that sometime in the near future the United States would be in a war... not with an outside country, but from within. I basically told him, whatever, but now I see that coming true! We are literally neighbor against neighbor/family member against family member/friend against friend. The saddest part is that it has been fueled by people in high places (thanks, Obama). What I worry about is that while we are over here fighting amongst ourselves, some of our outside enemies are looking over here licking their chops and biding their time for us to be so engrossed with looking inward, that it will be easy to "take" us!
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Location: Broxton, Ga | horsesinharleton - 2018-10-01 10:38 AM
My husband told me over 15 years ago that he believed that sometime in the near future the United States would be in a war... not with an outside country, but from within. I basically told him, whatever, but now I see that coming true! We are literally neighbor against neighbor/family member against family member/friend against friend. The saddest part is that it has been fueled by people in high places (thanks, Obama). What I worry about is that while we are over here fighting amongst ourselves, some of our outside enemies are looking over here licking their chops and biding their time for us to be so engrossed with looking inward, that it will be easy to "take" us!
Sounds like a Hollywood movie... except we are living it! God please help us!
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Location: Kansas | Well this is good. Juanita Broaddrick was sexually assaulted (rather violently) by Bill Clinton back in 1978. She's told her accounting of this attack many times but back in that timeframe she was ignored basically because of the power of the Clintons. Now she wants to reopen this matter (same as Ms. Ford from 1982) and stir up a little dust. She's a little perturbed by the double standard. You go Juanita !!!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2018-10-01 6:03 PM Bear - 2018-10-01 2:14 PM Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-02 3:53 PM
jbhoot - 2018-10-01 6:03 PM Bear - 2018-10-01 2:14 PM Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
.....and dumber than a box of rocks, with insanely crazy eyes. True but she is HOT....LOL!!!
LOL not any more crazy than most of my girl friends.....just saying. That's why I am single and intend to stay that way. |
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Location: Arizona | I simply don't care what this man did in high school or college...good grief!! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2018-10-02 4:17 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-02 3:53 PM jbhoot - 2018-10-01 6:03 PM Bear - 2018-10-01 2:14 PM Frodo - 2018-10-01 2:00 PM This may only be the beginning of Dem mayhem. Today Obama endorsed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a Congressional candidate for the state of NY. She is an avowed Socialist who wants to abolish ICE, believes in totally open borders, no prison system. She is a share the wealth, big government clueless young woman.
.....and dumber than a box of rocks, with insanely crazy eyes. True but she is HOT....LOL!!! LOL not any more crazy than most of my girl friends.....just saying. That's why I am single and intend to stay that way.
Theres better pictures of her with her makeup on, but to me this picture pretty much shows the true Alexandria O-C, LOL..
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | CNN just released this video of Kavanaugh from a frat party:
https://youtu.be/PTnD40xvSeM |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | So now there are reports of white powder being addressed to the pentagon, Ted Cruz and the White house. One report says it's ricin. The others don't say yet.
https://dmlnews.com/breaking-secret-service-intercepts-suspicious-ma... |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | I'm hoping these woman,including Swetnicks,that lied either in her sworn statement or on her tv interview GO TO JAIL.They make a mockery of people who really are assulted,They need to be made examples of what you DON'T DO FOR ATTENTION
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Location: OH. IO | bahahaha, senator Kennedy says if you think this whole thing is about searching for the truth,you better put down the bong LOLOLOL. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jake16 - 2018-10-02 7:08 PM I'm hoping these woman,including Swetnicks,that lied either in her sworn statement or on her tv interview GO TO JAIL.They make a mockery of people who really are assulted,They need to be made examples of what you DON'T DO FOR ATTENTION
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Location: Kansas | It appears an ex-boyfriend of Ms. Ford's has presented a letter stating that Christine lied about having a fear of flying, lied about being claustrophobic, and never in six years of their relationship did she mention a sexual assault or mention the name of Brett Kavanaugh.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | I'm just going to leave this here...
*Disclaimer, I think everyone is pretty in their own way. But in Highschool/College boys think differently.
Would also like to add that her high school photos and year book were scrubbed. She was involved with a white power group of women who were known to hate men and throw wild "Pass out parties" . I haven't read since about page 5 so I don't know if this was already discussed.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FBI finds NO sexual assault against Brett Kavanaugh. And the Dems are hopping mad about this.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-04 9:20 AM FBI finds NO sexual abuse against Brett Kavanaugh. And the Dems are hopping mad about this.
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Awesome news right?!! I edited my post from abuse to assault, just in cast someone trys/wants to correct me, lol.. |
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Location: OH. IO | TIME TO FILE SOME LAWSUITS AGAINST THE WOMAN,ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT RECANTED,AND THE ONE THE BACK TRACKED |
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Location: Kansas | jake16 - 2018-10-04 10:59 AM TIME TO FILE SOME LAWSUITS AGAINST THE WOMAN,ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT RECANTED,AND THE ONE THE BACK TRACKED Judge Kavanaugh can sue for slander but it would be unlikely that he would if he gets the Supreme Court position. It would make him appear petty. (from a legal expert, not me) Did you see the body language guru on Laura Ingraham's show last night. She noted again and again that Ms. Ford refused to look up or look anybody in the eye when she answered a question. She also disliked the childish voice that wasn't really hers.
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Location: OH. IO | Frodo - 2018-10-04 12:02 PM jake16 - 2018-10-04 10:59 AM TIME TO FILE SOME LAWSUITS AGAINST THE WOMAN,ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT RECANTED,AND THE ONE THE BACK TRACKED Judge Kavanaugh can sue for slander but it would be unlikely that he would if he gets the Supreme Court position. It would make him appear petty. (from a legal expert, not me) Did you see the body language guru on Laura Ingraham's show last night. She noted again and again that Ms. Ford refused to look up or look anybody in the eye when she answered a question. She also disliked the childish voice that wasn't really hers.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jake16 - 2018-10-04 11:27 AM Frodo - 2018-10-04 12:02 PM jake16 - 2018-10-04 10:59 AM TIME TO FILE SOME LAWSUITS AGAINST THE WOMAN,ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT RECANTED,AND THE ONE THE BACK TRACKED Judge Kavanaugh can sue for slander but it would be unlikely that he would if he gets the Supreme Court position. It would make him appear petty. (from a legal expert, not me) Did you see the body language guru on Laura Ingraham's show last night. She noted again and again that Ms. Ford refused to look up or look anybody in the eye when she answered a question. She also disliked the childish voice that wasn't really hers.
yes,I also think Dr.Fords HIPACANTIS (SP )NEEDS TO BE STIRRED UP AND POURED OUT.I do agree Kavanaugh should not be the one to file charges,however,false charges (like the ones the second woman RECANTED )should be able to be charged as false allegations by other means of the government as well as the second door by Ford,who forgot the second door is for a business room,as well as the third woman who back tracted SEVERLY in her tv interview that Brett was near the punchbowl: ) ) ) )
I am appalled by those women, they give the good women a bad name and they just opened the door up to make it easy for all the other crazy women to point fingers at men and accuse them at anything and make a buck while doing it.. I wonder how Fords go fund me accounts are doing? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | jake16 - 2018-10-04 12:27 PM Frodo - 2018-10-04 12:02 PM jake16 - 2018-10-04 10:59 AM TIME TO FILE SOME LAWSUITS AGAINST THE WOMAN,ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT RECANTED,AND THE ONE THE BACK TRACKED Judge Kavanaugh can sue for slander but it would be unlikely that he would if he gets the Supreme Court position. It would make him appear petty. (from a legal expert, not me) Did you see the body language guru on Laura Ingraham's show last night. She noted again and again that Ms. Ford refused to look up or look anybody in the eye when she answered a question. She also disliked the childish voice that wasn't really hers.
yes,I also think Dr.Fords HIPACANTIS (SP )NEEDS TO BE STIRRED UP AND POURED OUT.I do agree Kavanaugh should not be the one to file charges,however,false charges (like the ones the second woman RECANTED )should be able to be charged as false allegations by other means of the government as well as the second door by Ford,who forgot the second door is for a business room,as well as the third woman who back tracted SEVERLY in her tv interview that Brett was near the punchbowl: ) ) ) )
I assume you were going for Hippocampus?
why you want to stir her brain up?
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Location: Kansas | 51 Yes 49 No One step closer..........not sure I understand this cloture thing but sounds like great progress.
(It's a vote to proceed with a vote) Ends the debate baloney and puts the stopper on filibustering. Now I'm waaaay smarter. 
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Frodo - 2018-10-05 11:31 AM 51 Yes 49 No One step closer..........not sure I understand this cloture thing but sounds like great progress.
(It's a vote to proceed with a vote) Ends the debate baloney and puts the stopper on filibustering. Now I'm waaaay smarter.
cloture is nothing more than a procedural move to tell one side of the aisle or the other to sit down and shut up |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | What a joke most of our senators have made out of this entire process. Couldn't even bother to be at their desks on time for the vote, quite a few filing in late. Shameful. If you are gong to vote NO then at the very least have the curtesy to be on time for the vote, instead of your grandstanding 7th grade tactics. |
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Location: Kansas | run n rate - 2018-10-05 11:50 AM What a joke most of our senators have made out of this entire process. Couldn't even bother to be at their desks on time for the vote, quite a few filing in late. Shameful. If you are gong to vote NO then at the very least have the curtesy to be on time for the vote, instead of your grandstanding 7th grade tactics.
....and we as taxpayers have to "pay" them to be disrespectful.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | We all need to think long and hard this November before we vote. I don't care if you are right wing, left wing,what ever. Why is it that on a bird both wings understand they have to work in unison to lift the middle??? To do that we first have to show up to do our jobs!!! Come on America, we are better than this! |
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Location: Kansas | After a long speech, Susan Collins agreed to vote for Kavanaugh. The Senator from Alaska is a holdout.
Manchin will vote yes.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Its not over till the fat lady sings, then I will get excited.. |
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Location: OH. IO | MANY PRAYERS FOR BRETT KAVANAUGH AND HIS FAMILY TONIGHT AND TOMORROW.
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Location: Arkansas | run n rate - 2018-10-05 1:37 PM
We all need to think long and hard this November before we vote. I don't care if you are right wing, left wing,what ever. Why is it that on a bird both wings understand they have to work in unison to lift the middle??? To do that we first have to show up to do our jobs!!! Come on America, we are better than this!
And the world looks at all this and shakes its head. . . |
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Location: Kansas | If I live to be a million I will never understand swarming in the streets like pesky flies to protest. Nobody cares but the ones holding the stupid signs and wearing t-shirts bought and paid for by left-wing organizers. You will change nobody's mind. Same with running conservatives out of restaurants. You will move nobody to agree with your radical views.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Protesters seem to have the little man syndrome, they have to act {Bully and threaten others} this way to be notice. But when the good guys does fight back then the good guys are the bad ones. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-06 10:10 AM
Protesters seem to have the little man syndrome, they have to act {Bully and threaten others} this way to be notice. But when the good guys does fight back then the good guys are the bad ones.
Notice how it is only Democrats who use the bullying in your face protest tactics?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2018-10-06 11:57 AM Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-06 10:10 AM Protesters seem to have the little man syndrome, they have to act {Bully and threaten others} this way to be notice. But when the good guys does fight back then the good guys are the bad ones. Notice how it is only Democrats who use the bullying in your face protest tactics?
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Location: Kansas | Hey protesters, you can go home now. YOU LOST!
....or you can do this......
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Well the fat lady has sung and now I'm excited for Kavanaugh |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2018-10-06 3:06 PM Hey protesters, you can go home now. YOU LOST!
....or you can do this......
Protesters are so disgustion and RUDE!!! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves. |
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Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM
I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves.
And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . .
I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 4:41 PM
Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM
I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves.
And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . .
I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues.
Nothing has changed, actually. The Democrat party is still the party of racism, except they have adapted with the times. They are still profoundly racist in two ways. First, they are overtly anti-white racists (ie; creating narratives that impugn “rich white men”). Secondly, they stoke racism by attempting to convince blacks they are disadvantaged and persecuted by whites. Racism is something they want and need. They depend on it. Their MO centers around identity politics, deep seated hate, and wide divisions. They thrive on victimology and misery. Optimism and a positive outlook is the antidote to their doom and gloom.
The overt racism of 40-50 years ago has been modified and disguised, but it’s actually more destructive and more malignant than ever. |
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Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2018-10-06 6:08 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 4:41 PM
Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM
I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves.
And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . .
I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues.
Nothing has changed, actually. The Democrat party is still the party of racism, except they have adapted with the times. They are still profoundly racist in two ways. First, they are overtly anti-white racists (ie; creating narratives that impugn “rich white men” ). Secondly, they stoke racism by attempting to convince blacks they are disadvantaged and persecuted by whites. Racism is something they want and need. They depend on it. Their MO centers around identity politics, deep seated hate, and wide divisions. They thrive on victimology and misery. Optimism and a positive outlook is the antidote to their doom and gloom.
The overt racism of 40-50 years ago has been modified and disguised, but it’s actually more destructive and more malignant than ever.
I just finished reading a couple of books about the Civil War and was amazed at how the Republicans thought vs the Democrats; that was the era I was talking about.
I don't mean to get off thread by any means---so glad he was confirmed. Seems like our country is just pure division at this point. Will we ever be able to meet in be middle again?? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 8:52 PM Bear - 2018-10-06 6:08 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 4:41 PM Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves. And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . . I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues. Nothing has changed, actually. The Democrat party is still the party of racism, except they have adapted with the times. They are still profoundly racist in two ways. First, they are overtly anti-white racists (ie; creating narratives that impugn “rich white men” ). Secondly, they stoke racism by attempting to convince blacks they are disadvantaged and persecuted by whites. Racism is something they want and need. They depend on it. Their MO centers around identity politics, deep seated hate, and wide divisions. They thrive on victimology and misery. Optimism and a positive outlook is the antidote to their doom and gloom. The overt racism of 40-50 years ago has been modified and disguised, but it’s actually more destructive and more malignant than ever. I just finished reading a couple of books about the Civil War and was amazed at how the Republicans thought vs the Democrats; that was the era I was talking about. I don't mean to get off thread by any means---so glad he was confirmed. Seems like our country is just pure division at this point. Will we ever be able to meet in be middle again??
Edit to add" George Soros is who I was trying to said, that man has so much hate and wants us all dead.
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-06 9:18 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 8:52 PM Bear - 2018-10-06 6:08 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 4:41 PM Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves. And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . . I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues. Nothing has changed, actually. The Democrat party is still the party of racism, except they have adapted with the times. They are still profoundly racist in two ways. First, they are overtly anti-white racists (ie; creating narratives that impugn “rich white men” ). Secondly, they stoke racism by attempting to convince blacks they are disadvantaged and persecuted by whites. Racism is something they want and need. They depend on it. Their MO centers around identity politics, deep seated hate, and wide divisions. They thrive on victimology and misery. Optimism and a positive outlook is the antidote to their doom and gloom. The overt racism of 40-50 years ago has been modified and disguised, but it’s actually more destructive and more malignant than ever. I just finished reading a couple of books about the Civil War and was amazed at how the Republicans thought vs the Democrats; that was the era I was talking about. I don't mean to get off thread by any means---so glad he was confirmed. Seems like our country is just pure division at this point. Will we ever be able to meet in be middle again??
Edit to add" George Soros is who I was trying to said, that man has so much hate and wants us all dead.
The more strife the better for some folks. . . |
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Location: Kansas | Now the Democrats are fixated on impeachment and questioning the integrity of the Supreme Court. They're like a snake with the head cut off but it keeps moving.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Chandler's Mom - 2018-10-06 2:41 PM
Bear - 2018-10-06 3:54 PM
I haven’t seen this many pis$ed off liberals since the Republicans freed the slaves.
And wasn't the "old" Republican party more of today's Democratic party? Kinda flipped from today's platforms. . .
I just pray we can now move on to more pressing issues.
Rent a movie called "Hillary's America". It will explain more than you want to know. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Brett Kavanaught's speech tonight was priceless, I am so proud for him... You can see the true love this man has for his family and the United States |
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Location: Kansas | I see Bill and Hillary are going on the road to raise dollars for the Democrats. It will be interesting to hear Bill's views on Kavanaugh being a sexual predator (he's already made remarks). Bill's mind is a little foggy on some subjects. Of course everyone wants to hear Hillary complain about how she lost the election.....everyone's fault but hers. 
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Here’s what surprised me most about the Kavanaugh confirmation process.
The Democrats pushed the envelope so far that the GOP is galvanized and united like we haven’t seen in a long time. Kavanaugh’s speech in his own defense broke all the unwritten rules. He was visibly angry and he counterpunched. They tried to pivot away from Christine Balsey Ford and use his passionate address as evidence that he “lacks the right kind of judicial temperament”.
Some of the most visible RINOs became resolute, strong, and rock-ribbed.
Who would have thought that the so-called “RINOs” would have led the charge in his defense. McConnell was masterful in his leadership and his open defense of Kavanaugh. Graham’s speech to the judiciary committee was genuine and spontaneous, not contrived. It will go down in history as his finest hour as a US Senator. Susan Collins, arguably the most liberal Republican, laid out the case for supporting Kavanaugh with thoroughness and surgical precision. Overnight, she has reached hero status, and I’m guessing a lot of even Democrat women were proud of her.
All of this was baffling.....until you realize who really inspired these rare moments of strength and intellectual honesty - President Trump. |
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Location: Kansas | Well put Mr. Bear. I was even a little surprised when Trump called out the allegations against Kavanaugh as being based on "lies and deceptions." That's red meat for the liberal media. Pres. Trump just tells it like it is and let the chips fall. He doesn't sugar-coat much of anything.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2018-10-09 10:01 AM
Well put Mr. Bear. I was even a little surprised when Trump called out the allegations against Kavanaugh as being based on "lies and deceptions." That's red meat for the liberal media. Pres. Trump just tells it like it is and let the chips fall. He doesn't sugar-coat much of anything.
It' been working so far. I don't think he should change the plan now. lol
But there is more to come. giggle. I can't wait. |
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Location: North Texas | NJJ - 2018-09-26 8:16 AM
jbhoot - 2018-09-26 7:59 AM NJJ - 2018-09-25 9:16 PM jbhoot - 2018-09-25 6:49 PM NJJ - 2018-09-25 4:48 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-25 4:17 PM Frodo - 2018-09-25 4:13 PM horsesinharleton - 2018-09-25 3:06 PM Now they are reporting a 3rd lady coming forward who is supposed to be credible, will take a lie detector test and is the be all to end all! I am about sick of this! She is being presented by Stormy Daniels attorney. The man is a dirtbag looking for any way to draw attention to himself. I've heard what the story is and it's beyond disgusting.
I have not heard this from his room mate. Please site where you saw this Quote. Oh I did and you left out a lot. Like he was not friends with the judge but was a close friend of the with the woman. He did not hang with the same crowd as the judge. He also stated the judge was mostly reserved and keep to him self. They where only room mates for the freshman year. And a check on his history since college shows he is hard left. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give him a 1 as to relevance.
PSA ..... many quiet and reserved men are ENTIRELY different under the influence of alcohol .....
The same can be said about women..........until politics (or whatever they are opinionated on) are added to the mix. Human nature and human physiology character traits are unique to everyone on earth! |
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Location: North Texas | Bear - 2018-09-26 11:25 AM
The most vital principles of our entire legal system are being turned upside down. This insatiable, rabid thirst for power has no boundaries. Nothing better exemplifies Machiavellian principles more clearly than this sad charade.
In reality, America watched Her founding principals of Innocent castrated by The Left Leaning Power Hungry Politicians! |
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