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| I all of a sudden have coyotes digging under my fence. We are really overrun with them right now and I suspect they are coming in for water. I have barn cats that I know are sitting ducks. I am not against the obvious solution but where they are digging under is about 20 feet from my neighbors livingroom window. There is just no way to safely get a bead on them. Is there anything I can do to discourage them? TIA |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | BROKEN FEATHER - 2018-11-08 10:59 AM I all of a sudden have coyotes digging under my fence. We are really overrun with them right now and I suspect they are coming in for water. I have barn cats that I know are sitting ducks. I am not against the obvious solution but where they are digging under is about 20 feet from my neighbors livingroom window. There is just no way to safely get a bead on them. Is there anything I can do to discourage them? TIA As long as there is food available for them they are hard to get under control, and barn cats or any pet are their target.
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| You can snare them. Then you have a controlled shot from inches away vs ft. I'd tell you to trap them with a Conibear, but you'd kill the cats too if they got into them. You can keep from killing the cats with a snare if it's got a stop on it. Will keep from killing dogs that way too. If they are that close to your neighbor, they probably aren't fond of them either. |
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| I would leave poisoned meat out for them. Or take sponges, cut into small pieces, and wrap in hamburger meat. Freeze them. Leave it out for them to eat. You know the rest of the story. |
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  Location: Illinois | my neighbors had this issue this spring, they leave their 7 chihuahuas out all night in the yard. The fence is 6ft high, but the coyotes started digging under. They dug a line down the fence and dropped chicken wire double thick about 2 feet down underground. It was a bit time consuming, took them a day but just the cost of some chicken wire. My other neighbor just picks them off with his bow instead of a gun since there's only about 10 feet between houses and its silent. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If you have pets and barn cats I would not bait nor set snare traps, if you dont have pets running around or if your neighbors dont then ok, but if you plan to do the baiting and snares I would talk to my neighbors about it.. I have a really big coyote problem out here and a few lone coyotes that hang around so if I are hubby can get a shot at one we do, but really hard as they are super smart, I wont set bait out are snares since we have dogs and cats and alot of other wildlife out here. |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | We started building our fences with a strand of barbed wire buried in to the ground. They have yet to get another animal from our property. They jumped the neighbors fence and grabbed her yorkie last year WHILE SHE WAS IN THE YARD with the dog letting it go potty. She was devastated. By the time she got her gun the yorkie was already dead.
We called our sheriff department and they gave us many solutions and even helped with a few solutions. They stay far away from our property. You can still hear them at night behind our property but they don't get close anymore.
Maybe call your local sheriff and see if there is anything they can help you with? |
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| We got a Great Pyrenees cross. Everything from racoons to coyotes to mountain lions used to come up to the barn. Not since Rowdy has been around. Although getting used to his barking at night did take a little while. |
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        Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2018-11-08 11:51 AM If you have pets and barn cats I would not bait nor set snare traps, if you dont have pets running around or if your neighbors dont then ok, but if you plan to do the baiting and snares I would talk to my neighbors about it..
I have a really big coyote problem out here and a few lone coyotes that hang around so if I are hubby can get a shot at one we do, but really hard as they are super smart, I wont set bait out are snares since we have dogs and cats and alot of other wildlife out here.
You are absolutely right. My friend has sheep and a terrible time with coyotes but killed more wonderful pets with snares and bait then she did coyotes.
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    Location: Texas | We were having a huge coyote problem after our Pyrenees passed away. I opted for a donkey this time.. both have worked for us, donkey or Pyrenees |
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Check your state laws on trapping if you go that route. In Missouri you have to have special permits to use snare traps.
Poisoned bait is a very bad idea.
Get with your neighbors and talk with them about their thoughts/feelings. Then reach out locally to see if there is anybody willing to set up to hunt them with electronic calls etc. I know some people have had luck finding someone to hunt them. Depending on the circumstances and state laws, some may be hunted after dark when they are most active. They are extremely difficult to trap.
If you live in a populated area, I would get together with neighbors and get petitions to have the state step in and pay for removal. I have no idea if that will do any good but you never know. |
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   Location: Kansas | FLITASTIC - 2018-11-08 10:35 AM
I would leave poisoned meat out for them. Or take sponges, cut into small pieces, and wrap in hamburger meat. Freeze them. Leave it out for them to eat. You know the rest of the story.
What does a sponge do??? Or did you mean soak the sponge in poison first? |
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| HarlanLivesOn - 2018-11-13 8:53 AM
FLITASTIC - 2018-11-08 10:35 AM
I would leave poisoned meat out for them. Or take sponges, cut into small pieces, and wrap in hamburger meat. Freeze them. Leave it out for them to eat. You know the rest of the story.
What does a sponge do??? Or did you mean soak the sponge in poison first?
When they eat the sponge it expands in their digestive system and essentially plugs them up. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | For my chicken pens and around the house we put up Solar powered Motion lights so when the coyotes come a calling late night these lights go off when activated from the movement of any animals that comes threw and it has helped a whole lot.. If I were you OP try putting up a few of these lights here and there, they really do help. |
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| I’m surprised only one person has mentioned a donkey! I’d look into that route... |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | dRowe - 2018-11-14 8:50 AM I’m surprised only one person has mentioned a donkey! I’d look into that route...
LOL, I have donkeys,. two in the front pasture and my old man that I have up here by my house but they cant be everywhere at one time, coyotes runs in packs and we have about 4 packs of coyotes, you can hear them sounding off in different directions at all hours of the night, late evening.. The only place I have trouble with a coyote is when its a lone coyote or a pair and they come into my yard to snatch a chicken and I sure do not want a donkey in my yard, lol. When I had my cats in the hay barn the coyotes were a problem but the donkeys were always in a different area. And I dont want a large dog in my yard so the solar motion lights are pretty cool to have to keep them away and from digging under the chicken coop.. But I do have lone coyotes that will come up during the day every once in a while and snatch a chicken but by the time you go for the gun they are long gone, never know when one will show up. Very unpredictable aminals.. |
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| Only sure fire way we can protect our animals is to pull an all nighter and call those punks in and wait... then blast um. We got hit recently by a pack in the middle of the night, they killed my guard goose and about 5 chickens.. we forgot to close the coop that night so they just had their way with my birds.. found tons of tracks around so we know it was them. There is no shortage of them around here. My barn cats hide out in the hay barn up on the highest point si far theyve been ok. I hate coyotes!!! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2018-11-14 9:40 AM Only sure fire way we can protect our animals is to pull an all nighter and call those punks in and wait... then blast um. We got hit recently by a pack in the middle of the night, they killed my guard goose and about 5 chickens.. we forgot to close the coop that night so they just had their way with my birds.. found tons of tracks around so we know it was them. There is no shortage of them around here. My barn cats hide out in the hay barn up on the highest point si far theyve been ok. I hate coyotes!!!
LOL, A friend bought a coyote call guarantee to bring them up, he would set it up in the back pasture while he worked in the shop after dark and waited for hours not a one showed up, I tolded him the coyotes knows when its a trap, hes like no way these calls are the best on market and watched videos of it at work, LOL hes tryed it like 3 or 4 times and no coyotes, I think it scares them off for a couples of nights thou, but they always come back.. I tolded the friend these coyotes are super smart and they can tell a fake from real, just like the coyote that was up here by the house one day and hubby had a little time to get some shots off, that sucker knew he was being shot at and got so low to the ground when he was running off that you could not hit him, smart animal. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-11-14 9:56 AM
want2chase3 - 2018-11-14 9:40 AM Only sure fire way we can protect our animals is to pull an all nighter and call those punks in and wait... then blast um. We got hit recently by a pack in the middle of the night, they killed my guard goose and about 5 chickens.. we forgot to close the coop that night so they just had their way with my birds.. found tons of tracks around so we know it was them. There is no shortage of them around here. My barn cats hide out in the hay barn up on the highest point si far theyve been ok. I hate coyotes!!!
LOL, A friend bought a coyote call guarantee to bring them up, he would set it up in the back pasture while he worked in the shop after dark and waited for hours not a one showed up, I tolded him the coyotes knows when its a trap, hes like no way these calls are the best on market and watched videos of it at work, LOL hes tryed it like 3 or 4 times and no coyotes, I think it scares them off for a couples of nights thou, but they always come back.. I tolded the friend these coyotes are super smart and they can tell a fake from real, just like the coyote that was up here by the house one day and hubby had a little time to get some shots off, that sucker knew he was being shot at and got so low to the ground when he was running off that you could not hit him, smart animal.
They are smart! My hubby managed to shoot one, or so he thought in the pasture at dawn ... he said hes down! We started walking over to where he was laying down and out of nowhere my old horse came running at it ears pinned and teeth out that coyote jumped up so fast and high tailed it out of there before we could get to him.. my hubby followed suit running across the pasture and shot again but missed that stupid coyote began howling ... like he was laughing at us lol! As far as the calls go... we've had good luck with rabbit distress calls and then coyote pups too. Only thing we can really do is make sure our chicken coop is locked at night. When he built it, he put the tin about 2 ft down into the ground.. nothing can dig under that with our concrete like dirt. Our door is secured with two lock in bolts and extra chicken wire. Only time we've had issues is when we forget to lock them up.at night. Doh!!! |
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   Location: North Dakota | Contact game and fish, when the populations get bad here, they send out hunters in helicopters....... |
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      Location: Arkansas | LMS - 2018-11-14 11:05 AM
Contact game and fish, when the populations get bad here, they send out hunters in helicopters.......
If they did that around here, the sky would be full of helicopters everyday and F&G would never do anything but coyotes. . . It's unreal--twice we've been in the barn feeding and found one in a stall. Both times they were puppies and unbelievably mangy. I was terrified for my horses and some disease they might catch. Horses weren't the least but concerned with them. (Our horses are only stalled for feeding, so they weren't in there at the same time.) |
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   Location: North Dakota | Chandler's Mom - 2018-11-14 7:19 PM
LMS - 2018-11-14 11:05 AM
Contact game and fish, when the populations get bad here, they send out hunters in helicopters.......
If they did that around here, the sky would be full of helicopters everyday and F&G would never do anything but coyotes. . . It's unreal--twice we've been in the barn feeding and found one in a stall. Both times they were puppies and unbelievably mangy. I was terrified for my horses and some disease they might catch. Horses weren't the least but concerned with them. (Our horses are only stalled for feeding, so they weren't in there at the same time. )
Ha! Well ok-someone needs to get a ginormous gun! And maybe a few dead critters to lure them in and knock them off. |
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      Location: Arkansas | LMS - 2018-11-14 9:22 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-11-14 7:19 PM
LMS - 2018-11-14 11:05 AM
Contact game and fish, when the populations get bad here, they send out hunters in helicopters.......
If they did that around here, the sky would be full of helicopters everyday and F&G would never do anything but coyotes. . . It's unreal--twice we've been in the barn feeding and found one in a stall. Both times they were puppies and unbelievably mangy. I was terrified for my horses and some disease they might catch. Horses weren't the least but concerned with them. (Our horses are only stalled for feeding, so they weren't in there at the same time. )
Ha! Well ok-someone needs to get a ginormous gun! And maybe a few dead critters to lure them in and knock them off.
There has been known to be a ginormous gun or 15!!!! It seems they get worse every year. . . |
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        Location: SE KS | get you some livestock guardian dogs... I have a donkey he doesn't do much to scare the coyotes. - but I have 2 lgd's and they keep the coyotes away from my goats... best breed in my opinion is a anatolian/akbash cross.... they are very loyal and hate coyotes... they are short haired, very hardy in winter (they love winter) . yes they may bark at night, but that is how they deter the coyotes... the barking does not bother me... they are working and they patrol at night, sleep in the day unless the goats are out grazing... they are wonderful dogs... check them out. but be prepared to pay some $$.
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | We have a huge coyote problem, too! I have been thinking of getting a livestock guardian dog, I wonder if some of you with experience could help me with some questions about the breed. I am leaning toward the Anatolian. I know that I need to raise them from a pup, in the pen with the chickens/geese/goats/and have them around the horses when I’m outside. But, my house dog has a doggie door. Are Anatolians so driven to be with their livestock that they won’t just follow my house dog inside? Or, is that expecting for too much from this breed? Also, once they learn their boundaries, are they good at sticking close to home without running off too far, chasing coyotes. I know I need to spend the first year exposing them to livestock and walking the perimeter of the property, my hope is that they won’t want to leave that perimeter once they’re properly exposed to it? |
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    Location: WI | Your best best is to learn how to snare them but you'll have to keep pets out of there. There are different kinds you can set. Some will kill them instantly, some will just hold them until you can come shoot them. Those are what I'd use Incase you catch a local pet.
Please don't poison them or try to clog up their guts. They are bad animals but still need to be humaine about things. Plus who knows what else will eat that poison.
Calling them is not very successful, you may get lucky now and again but usually not. Also depends where you are in country. Western coyotes respond better then the ones up here in the North. Why I don't know. |
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       Location: Bandera, TX | I have solar lights in my kidding pens they have done wonders. Last two years no lost kids due to fox, coyote or big cats. We have 8 dogs they cover a lot of land and 2 donkeys that always stay with our replacement kids. Buy a dog that comes from a proven pair and get your pup young and place with you herd. Keep 'em in the pasture don't let them come around your yard. They need to bond to the animals more than you. I like to handle the dogs so I do a bit of work with them while young.
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | place a hot wire down low so they will actually touch it. |
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