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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 11:54 AM
What/who has impressed you this year so far?
The Epics have def showed up but keep in mind they have an unfair advantage having a hand like Kassie on them.
I was amazed at the ground being so bad for the slot....makes me sick to think some people just lit 5k on fire basically. But that's horse racing and the ground is getting better.
I love that the juvenile has so many entries and first timers its great!!
I think the ground the first two days were a little slow and it gave us some slower times but it seems to be getting better.
The Slicks have shown their consistency IMO like they are gonna go in and work.
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Location: Arizona | I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. |
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| Slick By Design had some nice runners in the SuperStakes. I stay away from most OTMR horses, but those results are making me question my stance.
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA... |
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Location: Oklahoma | LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 1:07 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-12-06 12:00 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training. Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see. I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA...
At 3yo most of these are already a year into running the pattern. With the amount of money up for grabs, you don't have to time to "go back to basics". Plus a lot of the time, you can train and retrain and it never get fixed.
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
So many that need tie downs...giraffes that could def use some help
Tie downs do not mean that rushed through their training. Look at Hailey and Sister, Sheri and Stingray, and many many others....tie downs are no indication of hurrying or poor training.
Many horses come apart at this point in the year just due to simple stress, remember this is a baby's first show if your watching the juv, and the riders nerves play a huge part when your on the biggest stage of the futurity world for all to see.
I am by no means against a tie-down. I had an older mare that had to have one. At 3yrs old how is one needed in such an early stage of training? Just asking....if I felt like my young one needed one I would go back to my basic training and get the correct headset before moving on. I know over time horses develop styles and habits and might then become in need of one, but at such a young age to already need one? I guess it was just something that stood out to me watching the BofA...
Tie Downs are helpers. Help to get them collected for a snappy smooth turn. Young horses at speed sometimes need them more than an older horse. You'll actually see them run as a baby with a tie down then move them out to free them up sometimes and get them stretching. It has nothing to do with teaching the right way or carriage. Bottom line when they are at a dead out run some of them require a little help stick that inside leg and come around....no shame in a tie down or using it at any stage of training or competition. |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also!
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right? |
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| Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 2:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
crap i used to ride long yearling at the racetracks in ok mo i rode long yearling at the big track and i do blelieve most trainers worth their salt caree about and back of if need to
as far as tie down go some put their nose to balance better
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Location: WYOMING | I need a Good Bye Lane X Epic leader cross. I have a smoking 1D horse I would trade! LOL! but seriously...
I see the usual futurity fodder. A few standouts, a few shoulda scratched before... but most kinda hovering in the middle of the pack. HEY kinda sounds like a 4D race! LOL
Saw a few that I think will sure go on and make nice open horses even if this wasnt their standout weekend.
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| Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 1:22 PM
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
I really thought the sterotype of blown up futurity horses was dead. Futurity horses can be blown up though, just like a rodeo or play day horse can....the odds are just alot higher for babies. Horses can be crippled at any time in their career. I'd bet more often due to poor ground or the owner not being diligent with care as an older horse though.
Futurity horses can and do have very successful careers just ask the owners of Slick by Design, Yeah Hes Firen, BF Shannigans, Lady La Dash, and many many others.
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you squezzed a lot of fail into that paragraph.
Congrats. You won the 1d all by yourself.
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM
Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also!
Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing! |
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Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 2:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
Congrats. You won the 1d all by yourself.
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| mreklaw - 2018-12-06 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also! Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing!
rember the key grip that sucker could go to the fence at the first and blow your drawers up
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Location: Texas | Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 1:22 PM
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I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
They don't have to be fed up like crazy at a young age. I didn't enter the Juvi on mine last year, but in December of her 3YO year she was winning 1D money at jackpots with 150+ runners. I didn't sale fit her, keep her overly fat, or raise her any different than I would any other horse. I honestly felt like I went slow with her. To be honest, I see a lot of people get an older horse and think they can cram a bunch of training in a few months and then they're entering the local stuff. I drug out her barrel training over 2 years (2YO and 3YO) with plenty of breaks in between. Now I do feel like some horses are not prepared or not of the right mindset to run at the juvenile.. and there are definitely people out there who won't back off when needed and truly don't care. |
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I'm super stoked that all the The Goodbye Lane futurity horses entered qualified for the futurity finals. I'm also very happy for my friend who owns Epic Guy and I was very impressed with most of the other Epic Leaders. I am glad to see the Slick By Designs showing up.. I know his sire has undergone criticism for his book sizes and sire ability, so I'm glad his offspring are doing him well.
I'm not thrilled with the ground... Kinda sad it doesn't seem to be the best and I feel like Makin Ya Famous's 2nd go derby run was robbed when he slipped bad at the third barrel.
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Location: Arkansas | vjls - 2018-12-06 4:50 PM
mreklaw - 2018-12-06 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also! Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing!
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| The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed. |
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The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed.
5 year of futurities and possibly 4 if they are mature mentally and physically are fine in my mind... But 3 in my opinion is pushing the envelope to the max. It takes an awful special horse to make it at that age and still have a career past futurity into derby then open. Hell I'm working my tail off getting them broke to my standards at 3.... Some I don't even start until 3. But maybe I just have late bloomers. Lol.... But again horses are not a business to me... Only my own personal goals. Guess that's the driving difference.... |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:49 PM
The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed.
Even before they started the Juvi you still had to have that 3 year old running by December because the 4 year old futurities are only a month away. Many top futurity horses do make it after. What I see is some riders haven’t prepared their horses as far as conditioning and seasoning them before. You have to get them out. You can go to any barrel race and see the same thing with older horses that aren’t in shape and rider doesn’t have a clue. So any horse of any age can be “blown up “ or hurt due to not being conditioned both mentally and physically. Oh and then there are those that just aren’t physically capable because of confirmation and no matter how long you wait to start them they will have soundness issues. |
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I am very happy to see the Slick by Design and the BHRFS babies doing great! I am partial to both though as I have 2 by BHRFS and 1 by Slick :) Also think Ain't Seen Maples Yet (ridden by Jennifer Burgess) has a super bright future. The Juvi is super exciting to watch!
The dam of the filly we bred that made the fut finals is being bred to slick next year. We are super excited. I have a 4 yr old slick son & you couldn't buy him from me. The 2 I bred & have sold are doing great & their owners love them. I have bred 4 different mares to slick & each one is very special. Well # 4 is still in the oven, but I know he or she is going to be awesome.
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Location: Texas | BarrelNPoleRunnr - 2018-12-07 8:03 PM
I think you could cross an EPIC with anythng and i would work!
I bet his book filled up just after the first round of the Juvi
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | geronabean - 2018-12-07 9:31 AM Juvi... THE GREAT EQUALIZER! Nothing like jockeying a 3 yr old thru!!!
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| cpo61 - 2018-12-10 10:31 PM Who won the futurity? I don't see the results on their Facebook Page
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cpo61 - 2018-12-10 10:31 PM Who won the futurity? I don't see the results on their Facebook Page
YES!! NO one has said a dang word about who won!
http://www.bfaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/2018-BFA-FUTURIT...
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 12:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
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Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 12:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
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Location: Where I am happiest | High Cotton Lane by The Goodbye Lane won the futurity. The Goodbye Lane's have darn sure made their presence known this year . French Goodbye the only other Goodbye Lane in the futurity also made the finals and finished in the top 5. A French Goodbye also won The Pink Buckle Futurity this year running a 16.5 on a full standard set as a 4 yr old! I'm curious, has there been any Epic Leaders who have been successful at this level NOT ridden or trained by Kassie Mowrey?
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High Cotton Lane by The Goodbye Lane won the futurity. The Goodbye Lane's have darn sure made their presence known this year . French Goodbye the only other Goodbye Lane in the futurity also made the finals and finished in the top 5. A French Goodbye also won The Pink Buckle Futurity this year running a 16.5 on a full standard set as a 4 yr old! I'm curious, has there been any Epic Leaders who have been successful at this level NOT ridden or trained by Kassie Mowrey?
Epic Leader just posted a graphic on Instagram congratulating everyone on Team Epic (I'm guessing this is just BFA entrants), and Kassie Mowry's trainees definitely earned the most, but there are a few others that held their own:
Wicked Little Leader earned over $9000 (ridden by Hallie Hanssen)
SR Industry Titan earned over $4800 (ridden by Troy Crumrine)
Epic Bit Of Fame, over $4500 (ridden by Craig Brooks)
SR Godiva, over $3750 (ridden by Stephanie Duke)
It looks like Mean Cheerleader (Hallie Hanssen) and Epic CoCo (Tauna Alcorn) also placed well in the first go of the Juvenile.
ETA: Epic Leader posted that he had 4 foals in the Top 20 Juvenile Average, 3 more in the top 35 Average with one out of an Epic mare, and 1 had the fastest time of both go rounds.
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ThreeCorners - 2018-12-15 8:57 AM
High Cotton Lane by The Goodbye Lane won the futurity. The Goodbye Lane's have darn sure made their presence known this year . French Goodbye the only other Goodbye Lane in the futurity also made the finals and finished in the top 5. A French Goodbye also won The Pink Buckle Futurity this year running a 16.5 on a full standard set as a 4 yr old! I'm curious, has there been any Epic Leaders who have been successful at this level NOT ridden or trained by Kassie Mowrey?
Epic Leader just posted a graphic on Instagram congratulating everyone on Team Epic (I'm guessing this is just BFA entrants ), and Kassie Mowry's trainees definitely earned the most, but there are a few others that held their own:
Wicked Little Leader earned over $9000 (ridden by Hallie Hanssen )
SR Industry Titan earned over $4800 (ridden by Troy Crumrine )
Epic Bit Of Fame, over $4500 (ridden by Craig Brooks )
SR Godiva, over $3750 (ridden by Stephanie Duke )
It looks like Mean Cheerleader (Hallie Hanssen ) and Epic CoCo (Tauna Alcorn ) also placed well in the first go of the Juvenile.
ETA: Epic Leader posted that he had 4 foals in the Top 20 Juvenile Average, 3 more in the top 35 Average with one out of an Epic mare, and 1 had the fastest time of both go rounds.
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madredepeanut - 2018-12-15 11:07 AM
ThreeCorners - 2018-12-15 8:57 AM
High Cotton Lane by The Goodbye Lane won the futurity. The Goodbye Lane's have darn sure made their presence known this year . French Goodbye the only other Goodbye Lane in the futurity also made the finals and finished in the top 5. A French Goodbye also won The Pink Buckle Futurity this year running a 16.5 on a full standard set as a 4 yr old! I'm curious, has there been any Epic Leaders who have been successful at this level NOT ridden or trained by Kassie Mowrey?
Epic Leader just posted a graphic on Instagram congratulating everyone on Team Epic (I'm guessing this is just BFA entrants ), and Kassie Mowry's trainees definitely earned the most, but there are a few others that held their own:
Wicked Little Leader earned over $9000 (ridden by Hallie Hanssen )
SR Industry Titan earned over $4800 (ridden by Troy Crumrine )
Epic Bit Of Fame, over $4500 (ridden by Craig Brooks )
SR Godiva, over $3750 (ridden by Stephanie Duke )
It looks like Mean Cheerleader (Hallie Hanssen ) and Epic CoCo (Tauna Alcorn ) also placed well in the first go of the Juvenile.
ETA: Epic Leader posted that he had 4 foals in the Top 20 Juvenile Average, 3 more in the top 35 Average with one out of an Epic mare, and 1 had the fastest time of both go rounds. SR Industry Titan is by Firewaterontherocks and out of Mulberry Canyon Moon. SR Godiva is by PYC Paint Your Wagon and out of Famous Silk Panties.
Well that's odd because Epic Leader has them listed on his page as "team members", so I assumed they were either offspring of his or out of a daughter of his. Ah, I wonder if they were bred by Schiller Ranch and that's why they're listed?
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | madredepeanut - 2018-12-15 12:28 PM ThreeCorners - 2018-12-15 9:21 AM madredepeanut - 2018-12-15 11:07 AM ThreeCorners - 2018-12-15 8:57 AM High Cotton Lane by The Goodbye Lane won the futurity. The Goodbye Lane's have darn sure made their presence known this year . French Goodbye the only other Goodbye Lane in the futurity also made the finals and finished in the top 5. A French Goodbye also won The Pink Buckle Futurity this year running a 16.5 on a full standard set as a 4 yr old! I'm curious, has there been any Epic Leaders who have been successful at this level NOT ridden or trained by Kassie Mowrey? Epic Leader just posted a graphic on Instagram congratulating everyone on Team Epic (I'm guessing this is just BFA entrants ), and Kassie Mowry's trainees definitely earned the most, but there are a few others that held their own: Wicked Little Leader earned over $9000 (ridden by Hallie Hanssen ) SR Industry Titan earned over $4800 (ridden by Troy Crumrine ) Epic Bit Of Fame, over $4500 (ridden by Craig Brooks ) SR Godiva, over $3750 (ridden by Stephanie Duke ) It looks like Mean Cheerleader (Hallie Hanssen ) and Epic CoCo (Tauna Alcorn ) also placed well in the first go of the Juvenile. ETA: Epic Leader posted that he had 4 foals in the Top 20 Juvenile Average, 3 more in the top 35 Average with one out of an Epic mare, and 1 had the fastest time of both go rounds. SR Industry Titan is by Firewaterontherocks and out of Mulberry Canyon Moon. SR Godiva is by PYC Paint Your Wagon and out of Famous Silk Panties. Well that's odd because Epic Leader has them listed on his page as "team members", so I assumed they were either offspring of his or out of a daughter of his. Ah, I wonder if they were bred by Schiller Ranch and that's why they're listed? Thanks for the clarification on the bloodlines.
The SR sort of gives it away.
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BHW's Lil Twirp
| I just went and look and Schiller Ranch congratulated all the horses - the ad didnt say they were all Epic's
The SR are just the ones they bred |
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BHW's Lil Twirp
| This season is the first year of Epic's first full crop running
Kassie said The Epics prior to this year were ones that were pulled for the Schiller's program or Kassie and Karma's |
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BFA- are you impressed with what you are seeing?