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Lisa and Louie???
TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-12-10 11:33 PM
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Is Louie hurt or has she just not decided to run him yet??? He’s always been my favorite to watch.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-12-11 6:10 AM
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She decided to run Rosa, said she deserved her turn, she is faster.  I bet we might see Louie tonight, she is really having to work to keep her from hitting. 
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shaunar
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2018-12-11 7:46 AM
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At a clinic I went to, Lisa said Louie was not the fastest horse out there???? That was very shocking, but she did say it was his great turns that made his fantastic runs.
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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2018-12-11 7:57 AM
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I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
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Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2018-12-11 8:05 AM
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WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?

Yes, Louie is a 2003 model.

Louie has proven he's not the fastest horse in the pen.  But he's consistent and he turns amazing, which makes up for a lot of time.  There's a lot of googling to be done to see what Louie's fastest time in Thomas and Mack is, but I'm 99% sure it's not in the 5s and 6s consistently.  Plus they're breaking into the 4s almost every round.  
Rosa is a rockstar.  She just needs super seasoned like Louie. 
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SoDak
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2018-12-11 8:27 AM
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She's doing what she needs to try to win the world. Rosa=round winner and Louie= average. Yes average pays well but round wins and placings are going to pay more.
Has she tipped more barrels than she probably expected? Yes, but there aren't many that have kept them up.
I would've done the same thing if I were in her shoes.
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LIVE2RUN
Reg. Oct 2005
Posted 2018-12-11 8:38 AM
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Rosa is for sure faster and with this group of horses you have to have the fastest. Man, these times are insane this year. Good bye 14 second runs!
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-12-11 8:45 AM
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LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-11 6:38 AM

Rosa is for sure faster and with this group of horses you have to have the fastest. Man, these times are insane this year. Good bye 14 second runs!

The times are just getting faster and faster in most every event- last night if you were slower than a 4.0 in the steer wrestling, you didn't even get a check!

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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-12-11 8:48 AM
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WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?

However, we all know what happens when you choose someone elses horse as your main mount.   
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2018-12-11 8:54 AM
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Whiteboy - 2018-12-11 8:48 AM
WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
However, we all know what happens when you choose someone elses horse as your main mount.   

Yes, I didn’t think she owned Rosa  
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2018-12-11 9:14 AM
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Whiteboy - 2018-12-11 8:48 AM
WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
However, we all know what happens when you choose someone elses horse as your main mount.   
Yes, I didn’t think she owned Rosa  

She may not own her, but she's been running her since 2016.  She may have bought her by now, IDK.  I doubt the mare lives somewhere else in the off times. 
BHN said Alan Woodbury owns her in an article from July 2017.  
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-12-11 9:20 AM
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Whiteboy - 2018-12-11 8:48 AM
WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
However, we all know what happens when you choose someone elses horse as your main mount.   
Yes, I didn’t think she owned Rosa  

She may not own her, but she's been running her since 2016.  She may have bought her by now, IDK.  I doubt the mare lives somewhere else in the off times. 
BHN said Alan Woodbury owns her in an article from July 2017.  

AQHA still lists Alan as her owner.
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2018-12-11 11:49 AM
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Fastest or not I miss seeing Louie coming up the alley, the dude is just the epitamy of class and cool.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-12-11 12:43 PM
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I would have been sticking with Louie for the average.  Plus if someone else owns the mare he's going to be sharing the winnings.



 
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Silly Filly
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-12-11 12:53 PM
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Frodo - 2018-12-11 11:43 AM I would have been sticking with Louie for the average.  Plus if someone else owns the mare he's going to be sharing the winnings.







 

I was just wondering how they split the winnings on a deal like that.  
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2018-12-11 12:55 PM
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Nateracer - 2018-12-11 8:05 AM
WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
Yes, Louie is a 2003 model.



Louie has proven he's not the fastest horse in the pen.  But he's consistent and he turns amazing, which makes up for a lot of time.  There's a lot of googling to be done to see what Louie's fastest time in Thomas and Mack is, but I'm 99% sure it's not in the 5s and 6s consistently.  Plus they're breaking into the 4s almost every round.  

Rosa is a rockstar.  She just needs super seasoned like Louie. 

The times this year have just been crazy fast!

Is the pattern exactly the same size as it was last year? (Or are the horses just getting THAT good?)
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-12-11 1:30 PM
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WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
Yes, Louie is a 2003 model.



Louie has proven he's not the fastest horse in the pen.  But he's consistent and he turns amazing, which makes up for a lot of time.  There's a lot of googling to be done to see what Louie's fastest time in Thomas and Mack is, but I'm 99% sure it's not in the 5s and 6s consistently.  Plus they're breaking into the 4s almost every round.  

Rosa is a rockstar.  She just needs super seasoned like Louie. 

The times this year have just been crazy fast!

Is the pattern exactly the same size as it was last year? (Or are the horses just getting THAT good?)

The times have definitely been consistently faster, but there haven't been any big standouts or arena records broken like last year. The horses seem a lot quicker, even with the ground being as shifty as it appeared in the first few rounds.
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RidenFly
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-12-11 1:39 PM
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Watching these times even with downed barrels is flat amazing. Plus, there isn't as much slipping this year. Looks great all the way around. 
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2018-12-11 1:40 PM
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r_beau - 2018-12-11 12:55 PM
Nateracer - 2018-12-11 8:05 AM
WrapN3MN - 2018-12-11 7:57 AM I imagine it's also time for Rosa to start stepping to the plate and becoming a main horse, too. How old is Louie? 16 next year?
Yes, Louie is a 2003 model.



Louie has proven he's not the fastest horse in the pen.  But he's consistent and he turns amazing, which makes up for a lot of time.  There's a lot of googling to be done to see what Louie's fastest time in Thomas and Mack is, but I'm 99% sure it's not in the 5s and 6s consistently.  Plus they're breaking into the 4s almost every round.  

Rosa is a rockstar.  She just needs super seasoned like Louie. 
The times this year have just been crazy fast!



Is the pattern exactly the same size as it was last year? (Or are the horses just getting THAT good?)

IMO the ground is getting consistently better every round AND after watching last nights round, I would rather be 4-5 down than top of the ground-its a little less solid, but still holding the horses really well! 

As far as splitting the winnings-who's doing who the bigger favor?? (just throwing that out there because people tend to forget that there are deals made that we will never know about
Personnally, I would love to see her ride Prime Diamond in 1 round-he. is. amazing.  (and Lisa if you're reading this, my kids still talk about meeting you in Dickinson on a daily basis)
 
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-12-11 4:25 PM
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I so selfishly hope to see Louie this week. But I also am understanding her choice. Rosa is fast!!!! Although she is really showing how good of a jockey Lisa is LOL. Louie and Lisa make it look so easy we forget how making it look easy is generally the hardest thing.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-12-11 4:32 PM
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Silly Filly - 2018-12-11 12:53 PM
Frodo - 2018-12-11 11:43 AM I would have been sticking with Louie for the average.  Plus if someone else owns the mare he's going to be sharing the winnings.







 
I was just wondering how they split the winnings on a deal like that.  

If you ride someone's calf roping horse you give up 25% of your winnings.  Barrel racing horses are different circumstances because the rider is generally doing the training and caring for the horse.  Would be interesting to know.  
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Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2018-12-11 5:08 PM
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All I know is if I owned Louie, he'd have to be too crippled to run for me not to saddle him up at the NFR! I know the other one is faster, and you have to be fast to win checks but it would be extremely hard to get off one that you are so comfortable with like Louie. I commend Lisa for sticking with Rosa. It's hard to watch some of those "greats" run past their time and are off the pace making what look like good runs.
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-12-11 5:18 PM
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I’m thinking it’s a good thing Lisa has Louie instead of people here. Maybe she’s looking out for his best interest and not just thinking about $$$. How many times has she almost lost him due to soundness issues and other things? He pretty much lived at Littleton Large Animal at one point. Louie owes her nothing at this point. I love Louie too. But I love it even more that Lisa tries to do right by him.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-12-11 5:36 PM
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SKM - 2018-12-11 5:18 PM I’m thinking it’s a good thing Lisa has Louie instead of people here. Maybe she’s looking out for his best interest and not just thinking about $$$. How many times has she almost lost him due to soundness issues and other things? He pretty much lived at Littleton Large Animal at one point. Louie owes her nothing at this point. I love Louie too. But I love it even more that Lisa tries to do right by him.

Yes yes yes     
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Cinchy girl
Reg. Jul 2014
Posted 2018-12-11 6:26 PM
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Louie is getting the call tonight.
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Reg. May 2004
Posted 2018-12-11 9:53 PM
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Cinchy girl - 2018-12-11 6:26 PM Louie is getting the call tonight.

YES 
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2018-12-11 11:20 PM
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LOUIE’S BACK!!!
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Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2018-12-12 7:20 AM
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Ok I'll admit when I heard "Louie Louie" play um like...........um.......isn't that Rosa?  But when she ran to the right, I exploded into cheering along with the whole stadium!  I actually had tears in my eyes when Butch remarked as Lisa was rounding the third barrel...."how's she feel riding her best friend".  It was amazing!!!
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2018-12-12 8:39 AM
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It was great to see them run last night!!! 

Edited by txbredbr 2018-12-12 8:39 AM
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Reg. May 2013
Posted 2018-12-12 10:18 AM
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He looked fantastic.
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Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2018-12-12 10:37 AM
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I am not super emotional but last night when they annouced it was Louie..when the crowd caught on....CHILLS. I watched the live from that round and the crowd cheered louder for them than any other team. Lisa and Louie are the sweethearts of Rodeo. 
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Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2018-12-12 11:07 AM
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I knew it the minute they showed her petting him coming in the gate. His face is completely different from Rosa's. Louie is just special!
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Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2018-12-12 11:21 AM
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Mainer-racer - 2018-12-12 6:20 AM

Ok I'll admit when I heard "Louie Louie" play um like...........um.......isn't that Rosa?  But when she ran to the right, I exploded into cheering along with the whole stadium!  I actually had tears in my eyes when Butch remarked as Lisa was rounding the third barrel...."how's she feel riding her best friend".  It was amazing!!!

I literally re-teared up reading this! So so so awesome!
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2018-12-12 11:44 AM
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rpreast - 2018-12-12 11:21 AM

Mainer-racer - 2018-12-12 6:20 AM

Ok I'll admit when I heard "Louie Louie" play um like...........um.......isn't that Rosa?  But when she ran to the right, I exploded into cheering along with the whole stadium!  I actually had tears in my eyes when Butch remarked as Lisa was rounding the third barrel...."how's she feel riding her best friend".  It was amazing!!!

I literally re-teared up reading this! So so so awesome!

I agree. He looked great and the NFR just isn't the same without him.
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Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2018-12-12 12:01 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2018-12-11 6:10 AM

She decided to run Rosa, said she deserved her turn, she is faster.  I bet we might see Louie tonight, she is really having to work to keep her from hitting. 

I think it was the 4th round when Lisa really had to handle her to get around the first, then again at the second just because her angle was a bit off. I turned to my husband and said THAT is a broke horse...Lisa asked for a step and she easily and willingly complied.

Hubby has been a Louie fan forever, now he's just a Lisa fan after seeing her on more horses.
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Posted 2018-12-12 12:30 PM
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Posted 2018-12-12 2:29 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2018-12-11 6:10 AM She decided to run Rosa, said she deserved her turn, she is faster.  I bet we might see Louie tonight, she is really having to work to keep her from hitting. 
I think it was the 4th round when Lisa really had to handle her to get around the first, then again at the second just because her angle was a bit off. I turned to my husband and said THAT is a broke horse...Lisa asked for a step and she easily and willingly complied. Hubby has been a Louie fan forever, now he's just a Lisa fan after seeing her on more horses.

And a good Jockey. 
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-12-12 3:59 PM
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The team of Lisa is and Louie is legend.   It was incredible to see them last night.   
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Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2018-12-12 4:00 PM
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I've been SOOOOO impressed with her jockeying this year. I know she is a phenomenal hand, because she has always made it look so easy and smooth in the past. That's a whole lot harder to do than it looks. But this year, she has shown such timing and feel in the corrections that she has had to make. Super impressive. And when she gets Rosa as solid as Louie......oh my. They are in trouble!
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Posted 2018-12-12 5:58 PM
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I know its ridiculous, but I literally have tears in my eyes every single time I watch Lisa and Louie. They are my "ideal" of what and how I want my horse to travel thru the pattern and OMG, if I could ride a fraction of a fraction of how well Lisa rides I'd be beyond thrilled! If anyone ever thought that she just sits and lets Louie do his job we obviously got a refresher of how good a true rider she is other night on Rosa. Rode the hair off!!! Without spurring and whipping, just flat RODE!!!
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Reg. Dec 2007
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run n rate - 2018-12-12 5:58 PM I know its ridiculous, but I literally have tears in my eyes every single time I watch Lisa and Louie. They are my "ideal" of what and how I want my horse to travel thru the pattern and OMG, if I could ride a fraction of a fraction of how well Lisa rides I'd be beyond thrilled! If anyone ever thought that she just sits and lets Louie do his job we obviously got a refresher of how good a true rider she is other night on Rosa. Rode the hair off!!! Without spurring and whipping, just flat RODE!!!
Me too, something about Louie just gets me.  And Lisa - she is such a hand, a beautiful quiet rider.  

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Posted 2018-12-14 8:20 PM
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SKM - 2018-12-11 5:18 PM

I’m thinking it’s a good thing Lisa has Louie instead of people here. Maybe she’s looking out for his best interest and not just thinking about $$$. How many times has she almost lost him due to soundness issues and other things? He pretty much lived at Littleton Large Animal at one point. Louie owes her nothing at this point. I love Louie too. But I love it even more that Lisa tries to do right by him.

Bravo! Yes, it’s about the horse. Nothing else really matters.
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