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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I haven't been able to heal my mare's scratches and I might have to call the vet. I washed her with Betadine scrub, rinsed and dried. I've tried Desitin, triple antibiotic ointment, Equiderm, and pink Swat. I've put it on twice a day, then once a day because I thought maybe I was doing it too much, then every few days. It doesn't make a difference. They have actually gotten worse. They're up her legs and I had to tell the farrier not to do her today because I didn't want him to inadvertently hurt her by trying to hold the leg. Luckily she's barefoot. But I can't put this off for too long.
It HAS been wet out there. But none of the other horses have it and they are not in mud. They have a big field, nice dry run-in sheds. I might have to stall her. This girl is very sensitive. Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
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| SmokinBandits - 2018-12-12 5:47 PM
I haven't been able to heal my mare's scratches and I might have to call the vet. I washed her with Betadine scrub, rinsed and dried. I've tried Desitin, triple antibiotic ointment, Equiderm, and pink Swat. I've put it on twice a day, then once a day because I thought maybe I was doing it too much, then every few days. It doesn't make a difference. They have actually gotten worse. They're up her legs and I had to tell the farrier not to do her today because I didn't want him to inadvertently hurt her by trying to hold the leg. Luckily she's barefoot. But I can't put this off for too long.
It HAS been wet out there. But none of the other horses have it and they are not in mud. They have a big field, nice dry run-in sheds. I might have to stall her. This girl is very sensitive. Any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
I would get vetalog or panalog cream from the vet and be done with it. Does not cost much. |
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| She might need a shot of dex and antibiotic.
I finally got shoofly's for my guys this year and that ended the problem. A set of 4 was just over $50 and well worth it. I used them up front only so one set did two horses. I would think winter use to keep legs dry is just fine!
Considering that we will be setting the record for the wettest year ever after the rain this weekend yes, the east coast has been excessively wet this year and any fungus or bacteria that could grow has and is. |
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| Boudreaux’s Butt paste. Amazing. If you can’t get that go to the baby section at Walmart and get the cheapest diaper rash cream. Has to be zinc oxide. Will clear it up in a few days. Again AMAZING |
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Having Smokin Bandits
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Thanks guys. Yeah, I probably should bite the darn bullet and get the vet.
Streaky, I tried diaper rash cream. First I used the cheap stuff and that didn't work and so then I bought the good stuff, the Desitin, and that didn't work either. All of the things I tried worked on my horses in the past but this time, like Lonely VA said, it's been a very wet time and all kinds of fungi and stuff are growing I guess.... I just can't seem to go a few months without this vet coming out! |
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| SmokinBandits - 2018-12-12 9:02 PM
Thanks guys. Yeah, I probably should bite the darn bullet and get the vet.
Streaky, I tried diaper rash cream. First I used the cheap stuff and that didn't work and so then I bought the good stuff, the Desitin, and that didn't work either. All of the things I tried worked on my horses in the past but this time, like Lonely VA said, it's been a very wet time and all kinds of fungi and stuff are growing I guess.... I just can't seem to go a few months without this vet coming out!
I don’t think Desirin is zinc oxide. I bought two fair size jars of zinc oxide from a vet supply. Nothing cleared this horse up over a period of several years. A couple of days of zinc oxide and she was good. |
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| streakysox - 2018-12-12 9:53 PM
SmokinBandits - 2018-12-12 9:02 PM
Thanks guys. Yeah, I probably should bite the darn bullet and get the vet.
Streaky, I tried diaper rash cream. First I used the cheap stuff and that didn't work and so then I bought the good stuff, the Desitin, and that didn't work either. All of the things I tried worked on my horses in the past but this time, like Lonely VA said, it's been a very wet time and all kinds of fungi and stuff are growing I guess.... I just can't seem to go a few months without this vet coming out!
I don’t think Desirin is zinc oxide. I bought two fair size jars of zinc oxide from a vet supply. Nothing cleared this horse up over a period of several years. A couple of days of zinc oxide and she was good.
I checked Desitin is zinc oxide but I never had much luck with it. Boudroeux’s is the bomb and soap and water will not take it off. Living in the South, we all need that stuff once in awhile. We all keep it on hand. |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I had a gelding a few years ago who had scratches extremely bad on 3 legs. I used this product and it cleared it up amazingly well. I had been to the vet and tried all kinds of products. The 1st thing I did was shave the hair off of all legs so the skin could get some air. I took this product and mixed 1oz of it with water in a 32oz spray bottle. It is a way stronger mix than what the product calls for. I sprayed it on once a day. I could see a difference in just a few days. I have used this mix also on rain rot as well. It just plain works! I am never without this product!
https://www.jefferspet.com/products/tea-clenz-anti-microbial-conc |
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| I dealt with scratches this summer a lot with my gelding. He just got them again 2 weeks ago, and I bought Vetericyn Hydrogel and in two days in looks 95% better. Before I found this I tried the Corona Fung A Way, and Desitin with no luck. Banixx also cleared them up when I used it this summer, but I ran out and a friend told me about Vetericyn and it was so much quicker to heal than Banixx. The nice thing with the gel is that it doesn't run down the leg, it stays put where you spray it.
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Location: I am not FROM California I just live here! | Equine Elite https://www.equineliteproducts.com |
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| The thing that I've found that works the best is Scarlett Oil. Dirt cheap and easy to apply with a squirt bottle.
It looks like your horse has been in WWIII....BUT it works. |
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| Iccthamol worked wonders on my horse when he had scratches. |
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Location: Up North in Minnesnowta. | I have a mare that gets scratches every year. I can ususally heal it with topicals. This year, it wouldn't go away. Ended up at the vet. Scratches turned into a bacterial infection. She needed antibiotics to clear it up. A trip to the vet might be a good idea. |
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Location: torrington, wy | Mix Dex with your diaper rash products. Mix Dex and Pen. givw IM for 3 days and should clear it up. |
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| Nateracer - 2018-12-13 10:16 AM The thing that I've found that works the best is Scarlett Oil. Dirt cheap and easy to apply with a squirt bottle.
It looks like your horse has been in WWIII....BUT it works.
I have some but never thought of trying it on scratches. Will do if I see any more crop up. It is cheap and easy! |
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Location: North Dakota | I had a mare that I experienced this same thing with. I spent $600.00 at the vet, all WINTER long could not heal them up. We did every known treatment for scratches like what you are doing. I could not get it to heal. I spoke with a very good friend of mine (national trainer) and she told me to use Alushield. She said you are probably dealing with photosensitization and its not scratches. Bought a can of Alushield and thoroughly sprayed the area twice a day...in 3 days they healed up. The can of Alushield cost $15.00. Now when she gets that "scratches" looking stuff on her white sock, I whip out my can of Alushield and have it healed immediately. I also fly boot her in the summer and found that protection helps with the sun damage on it. |
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| If you haven't been able to heal them, chances are it isn't scratches.
Photosensitivity caused from alsike clover resembles scratches. Ensure there is no clover in the pasture or hay. I have one as soon as she comes in contact with it blows up.
Also if going to the vet run a liver function test, as photosensitivity causes liver damage. |
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Location: Arkansas | hank520 - 2018-12-13 1:38 AM
I had a gelding a few years ago who had scratches extremely bad on 3 legs. I used this product and it cleared it up amazingly well. I had been to the vet and tried all kinds of products. The 1st thing I did was shave the hair off of all legs so the skin could get some air. I took this product and mixed 1oz of it with water in a 32oz spray bottle. It is a way stronger mix than what the product calls for. I sprayed it on once a day. I could see a difference in just a few days. I have used this mix also on rain rot as well. It just plain works! I am never without this product!
https://www.jefferspet.com/products/tea-clenz-anti-microbial-conc[/q...
We used that product for some "crud" Two had on her neck, and it worked great. |
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| I worked with draft horses and those suckers get it like it's their JOB! We had good luck with MTG or Vetericyn.
It's nasty and she might not let you... but try to pick off the gunk before you apply whatever topical you are using. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Gunnin to Play - 2018-12-13 2:32 PM
I worked with draft horses and those suckers get it like it's their JOB! We had good luck with MTG or Vetericyn.
It's nasty and she might not let you... but try to pick off the gunk before you apply whatever topical you are using.
To clean the gunk off you might want to use Vaseline first to soften it to make it easier to clear away the gunk. |
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Location: Louisiana | Runnincat - 2018-12-13 11:58 AM
I had a mare that I experienced this same thing with. I spent $600.00 at the vet, all WINTER long could not heal them up. We did every known treatment for scratches like what you are doing. I could not get it to heal. I spoke with a very good friend of mine (national trainer) and she told me to use Alushield. She said you are probably dealing with photosensitization and its not scratches. Bought a can of Alushield and thoroughly sprayed the area twice a day...in 3 days they healed up. The can of Alushield cost $15.00. Now when she gets that "scratches" looking stuff on her white sock, I whip out my can of Alushield and have it healed immediately. I also fly boot her in the summer and found that protection helps with the sun damage on it.
This is exactly what happens to one of mine in the summer. First he looks like he has rain rot, then all of his hair falls out. This year I moved him to a new pasture and didn't have the problem so I'm assuming there was something in the other pasture he was eating causing it to happen.
When they have actual rain rot, or scratches, I bathe with chlorhexidine shampoo. Don't buy the high dollar stuff from the vet though, amazon sells a gallon jug for under $20. Get a pump for it and add a few squirts into you cheapo shampoo, works GREAT and is also good to have around if you need to clean a would or anything. |
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| I cannot recommend socks for horses enough! https://socksforhorses.com/
after so many antibiotics, creams, scrubs, lotions, potions you name it I tried it!..........my vet said "This may just be something he will have to live with"..........so I found the socks and was like WTH magic socks I was at my wits end!!
BEST THINGS EVER I was losing my mind until I found these socks LOVE LOVE LOVE
He really hasn't had to wear them since they healed up. I toss them right on tho if he gets a cut on his leg or if its extremely muddy and wet. But I would probably count on my hands how often he has had them on since it healed
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Location: North Dakota | If you're using a zinc oxide cream, be sure it is 30% zinc oxide. There is a difference in desitin creams, 1 works, the other doesn't. Most likely due to the lack of light penetrating to the skin on some, however, the zinc is heavy enough to "suffocate" the scratches. I also will scrub every other day with betadine wash-get nice pink skin showing, let it dry and then apply the zinc. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Thanks for all your replies. I wrote everything down. But I have improvement! My girlfriend told me to use Shapley's MTG like Gunnin to Play recommended. She insisted that I shouldn't put on any ointments like Desitin or Equiderm. She said, "You want to DRY it." So I shampooed her legs with Betadine Scrub to get all the old gook off and start fresh. Rinsed and dried. Then I put the MTG on with a cotton ball. It's a yellow liquid. The main ingredient is sulphur. Then I stalled her at night even though she has a dry run-in shed and she doesn't have to stand in mud or water. Two days later, I saw improvement! It now looks like a bad sunburn that is healing.
Hopefully this continues. If not, I might try one of your other suggestions before I call the vet. Thanks for all your help!
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| Actually, if it is in fact a case of scratches, the strongest Desitin mixed with cortizone and neosporin works awesome!!! Sounds like you are dealing with something more than a simple case of scratches. |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Update: I had to call the vet. The Shapley's MTG was working. The scabs were falling off and there was skin that looked like a dried sunburn and then hair started growing in it. I thought, yippee! But then more came near the ones that were healing. The MTG would heal what was there, but not prevent more from coming.
The vet gave me silver sulfadiazine cream and doxy antibiotic. I am alternating that and the MTG. I think I'm having the same results. The ones that are there are healing but new ones have appeared. We also started her on flaxseed because the fatty acids are good for the skin.
It's still incredibly wet here. Everyone I talk to is dealing with scratches. The vet was heading to another case after she left me. I really don't think I'm going to get rid of this completely until the moisture is all gone. We have a day or two of sun and I get excited because it looks like it's going to dry up, but then it rains or snows again. She is not the kind of horse I can stall 24/7. She's rearing in the morning waiting for me and she has ulcers.
The vet gave me a bottle of anti-fungal spray (it's like Monistat) to try next if I give up on this course. There is talk of shaving her legs, washing her real good with Betadine, and a steroid. I DO think we're going to have to shave her legs so they can get air and I can see what I'm missing. We couldn't do it when the vet was here because it was ten degrees out. |
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| SmokinBandits - 2019-01-26 5:41 PM
Update: I had to call the vet. The Shapley's MTG was working. The scabs were falling off and there was skin that looked like a dried sunburn and then hair started growing in it. I thought, yippee! But then more came near the ones that were healing. The MTG would heal what was there, but not prevent more from coming.
The vet gave me silver sulfadiazine cream and doxy antibiotic. I am alternating that and the MTG. I think I'm having the same results. The ones that are there are healing but new ones have appeared. We also started her on flaxseed because the fatty acids are good for the skin.
It's still incredibly wet here. Everyone I talk to is dealing with scratches. The vet was heading to another case after she left me. I really don't think I'm going to get rid of this completely until the moisture is all gone. We have a day or two of sun and I get excited because it looks like it's going to dry up, but then it rains or snows again. She is not the kind of horse I can stall 24/7. She's rearing in the morning waiting for me and she has ulcers.
The vet gave me a bottle of anti-fungal spray (it's like Monistat) to try next if I give up on this course. There is talk of shaving her legs, washing her real good with Betadine, and a steroid. I DO think we're going to have to shave her legs so they can get air and I can see what I'm missing. We couldn't do it when the vet was here because it was ten degrees out.
I tried everything under the sun like you have, and I just healed my geldings scratches completely last month with Vetrycin Hydrogel. You spray it on and it stays put, it doesn't drip or anything. He's out 24/7. It worked for us, and he's had them since july! |
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | Thanks Emricmacy. I put that on my list.
They're still here. Since the vet: she was on 3 weeks worth of antibiotics (doxy); I used three tubes of silver sulfadiazine and three bottles of Shapley's MTG and then a bottle of the anti-fungal spray the vet gave me (miconizole sp?) and they're doing the same thing. I get scabs falling off; what looks like dried, healing sunburn, and then I find new ones nearby.
I just started a jar of Krud Zapper. It has sulfur in it like the MTG. But I'm able to get a good coating on her legs and so I'm less likely to miss some.
It's still wet and saturated here. The precipitation doesn't stop. A day or two of sun and I get excited that it's finally going to dry out but then it rains or snows again. I'm about ready to pray for a drought. |
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| https://socksforhorses.com
Get the silver ones
I was at my wits’ end
I know magic socks but after 3 vets and tried everything anyone suggested or I found on forums!
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| SmokinBandits - 2019-02-16 6:02 PM Thanks Emricmacy. I put that on my list.
They're still here. Since the vet: she was on 3 weeks worth of antibiotics (doxy); I used three tubes of silver sulfadiazine and three bottles of Shapley's MTG and then a bottle of the anti-fungal spray the vet gave me (miconizole sp?) and they're doing the same thing. I get scabs falling off; what looks like dried, healing sunburn, and then I find new ones nearby.
I just started a jar of Krud Zapper. It has sulfur in it like the MTG. But I'm able to get a good coating on her legs and so I'm less likely to miss some.
It's still wet and saturated here. The precipitation doesn't stop. A day or two of sun and I get excited that it's finally going to dry out but then it rains or snows again. I'm about ready to pray for a drought.
The drier you can keep them the better! Keep at it! |
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I Can't Heal the Scratches--UPDATE