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| I did a huge search and never really came up with anything. Everything online says that very very few horses have a problem with it in feed OR it should be avoided like the plague. Lol. What does everyone think? Thanks ! |
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Location: Claremore, OK | I think that a lot of people have gone way overboard on “soy free”.
I saw an ad the other two day that warned of using vitamin E that was sourced from Soy. Come on people. Of course it was someone trying to sell their product pointing fingers at another product. Common sense and moderation go a long way. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | and from my research so much depends on how it was processed. |
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| It's pretty challenging to find any commercial horse feed that is soy free. I guess it all comes down to the horse... luckily none of mine take issue with soy! Shoot I was reading the other day some people think horses shouldn't consume coconut because that's not something they'd have in their natural diet. |
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| Thanks all! I am not going to sweat it. Lol |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I add soybean meal to 4 out of 5 of my horses’ cubes. It’s a high quality (meaning highly absorbed) complete protein. |
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| Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience . |
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| cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-21 10:55 PM
Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience .
Thank you for sharing your experience ! Sounds like your mare is pretty darn allergic. I guess any horse can be allergic to anything really. Lol what a PITA we go through for these furry critters. Lol |
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| cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-22 12:55 AM
Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience .
I remember that! I felt bad for you. The same thing has happened to me by the same people. You are one of the people on here that I make a point to read what you write. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-22 12:55 AM
Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience .
I’m not saying it’s not possible, I know it is.
No one should’ve been upset with you for speaking up about it. |
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| Liana D - 2018-12-22 2:53 PM
cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-22 12:55 AM
Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience .
I’m not saying it’s not possible, I know it is.
No one should’ve been upset with you for speaking up about it.
It was possible and did happen. We tested hay, dirt, and dead horses . There was no other explanation but the round up. I now know how to deal with it because you can not avoid it. I also was not the only one in our area. I never was against farmers like some thought it was about being aware it is possible. What was decided in our case is that the hay was sprayed to late and too heavy . There are a couple of lawsuits suppose to be coming down the line in other animal cases, we are not a part of it. It is what it is at this point. I lost 4 horses and nearly lost a few more, dealt with the issues for almost 2 yrs and treated 20 horses for ulcers. I am still trying to pay my vet bill off. It was just a train wreck but I learned a lot. I do like discussing it with people as long as we can talk nicely, I understand we all have an opinion. I just don't feed a product that I am concerned with now it is not worth it to me as they can try to kill themselves without trying. |
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Location: South Dakota | cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-22 7:18 PM Liana D - 2018-12-22 2:53 PM cutnrunqhmt - 2018-12-22 12:55 AM Well I stopped feeding it because I have one mare who loses her mind if given even the smallest amount. We also fought for 2yrs with severe ulcers on her which went away after stopping feeding her any soy. She is one of the few who does have an issue with it. I had other issues that I am happy to share in messages but last time I discussed it on here I got hammered for my experience . I’m not saying it’s not possible, I know it is. No one should’ve been upset with you for speaking up about it. It was possible and did happen. We tested hay, dirt, and dead horses . There was no other explanation but the round up. I now know how to deal with it because you can not avoid it. I also was not the only one in our area. I never was against farmers like some thought it was about being aware it is possible. What was decided in our case is that the hay was sprayed to late and too heavy . There are a couple of lawsuits suppose to be coming down the line in other animal cases, we are not a part of it. It is what it is at this point. I lost 4 horses and nearly lost a few more, dealt with the issues for almost 2 yrs and treated 20 horses for ulcers. I am still trying to pay my vet bill off. It was just a train wreck but I learned a lot. I do like discussing it with people as long as we can talk nicely, I understand we all have an opinion. I just don't feed a product that I am concerned with now it is not worth it to me as they can try to kill themselves without trying.
This is the first time I have read of your experience....so devastating. |
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| I have the odd ball. All of my horses got ground soy, molasses free beet pulp, and alfalfa pellets. The chiro suggested upping his protein to help with Tucker's topline and increase his mass, he was lean but not skinny.
When trying to pick his feet, he had gotten to be extremely stiff to bend his knees/hocks. Figured it was dealing with the battle of contracting heel/deep suculus thrush in front left, but didn't explain his reactive behavior. It was on the verge of getting dangerous to even tie him to the trailer or running through round pen panels he was that cranky and revved up.
I poked and proded, and racked my brain for the changes in the last couple months, then it hit me. I thought the odds were slim but it didn't hurt to try. I removed the ground soy from his diet, left his THE supp in (soy flour), and left everything else the same to be sure that was the only change. By the third feeding, he had no problems picking up his feet, his eyes softened,and I could tie him to the trailer without him being an absolute space cadet.
I took him for a couple rides and he strided out so better, we stood for the farrier Saturday which let him work well on his feet and issues, and was much better behaved at the trailer for tacking up. Now, we were a little fresh riding, but nothing like before.
I added Tribute Grass Assist to substitute the amino acids he was losing from not getting soy and upped his beet pulp and added some more alfalfa pellets.
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Location: USA | I had one that would stock up and get really sick with soy. I haven’t fed it for years. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Learn more about soy in the horses diet - go to web sites - "Choose Hemp Instead of Soy" by Getty equine nutritionest. |
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Location: Texas | Yeah soy does not scare me. |
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Location: USA | casualdust07 - 2019-01-03 9:18 AM Yeah soy does not scare me.
It didn’t at first for me either, but then you get that one horse that has a reaction and you become really leery of any food that contains soy. Hope no one has to go through that though!! |
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| casualdust07 - 2019-01-03 10:18 AM
Yeah soy does not scare me.
I just wanted to clarify... It doesn't scare me. I just have to have the difficult pony  |
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Location: Texas | I have zero problem in anyone trying to feed soy free if they know their horse has an issue with it. But for the general population of normal horses, I don't think it's this monster food. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Soy is not an issue, unless it is. If your horse has no sensitivity to soy that is fine. Most horses don't. The ones that are sensitive to soy (often times not identified) can be very sensitive to it. Soy is high in quality protein and cheap. That makes it an attractive ingredient for formulators who are trying to make feed that hits certain protein levels for the least cost possible. Once again, if your horse is not sensitive to soy that is fine.
I don't use soy in any horse diets that I do. There are enough who do not tolerate it that it just makes sense to me not to use it. I also prefer not to use corn or wheat. We deal with enough horses across the country that avoiding potential issues just makes sense to me. I know a lot, and I mean a lot, of horses that have eaten feeds with soy their whole lives with no issues. Most get along, some don't. |
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Location: Desert Land | I have several horses that have tested allergic to soy. I fed them all the same thing and a couple of mares just didn't look as good and 1 mare specifically just became odd and had always been such a sweet mare and very predictable. She started losing weight, didn't want to be caught and just wasnt herself. The more grain I poured her the worse she looked. After ruling out dental issues and ulcers we did an allergy panel on her and sure enough she was allergic to several things in the grain I was feeding including soy.
I started feeding hay only and a free choice mineral and my horses have never looked better! It was almost impossible to find a commercially available feed that is soy free. Renew Gold and Max-E-Glo are the only soy free rice bran based feed I could find and Triple Crown makes 1 line of soy free grain as well but I couldnt find anyone around here that carried it or would order it for me. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2019-01-04 11:58 AM
I have several horses that have tested allergic to soy. I fed them all the same thing and a couple of mares just didn't look as good and 1 mare specifically just became odd and had always been such a sweet mare and very predictable. She started losing weight, didn't want to be caught and just wasnt herself. The more grain I poured her the worse she looked. After ruling out dental issues and ulcers we did an allergy panel on her and sure enough she was allergic to several things in the grain I was feeding including soy.
I started feeding hay only and a free choice mineral and my horses have never looked better! It was almost impossible to find a commercially available feed that is soy free. Renew Gold and Max-E-Glo are the only soy free rice bran based feed I could find and Triple Crown makes 1 line of soy free grain as well but I couldnt find anyone around here that carried it or would order it for me.
I started making my own feed just because it was so hard to find soy free anything and I live in an area that only carried about 3 brands of feed or a local dirty mill . |
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