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| We bought our place a little over a year ago now, there was a pole shed that the previous owner stored oats in for 7 years and didn't touch them. ugh
so he cleaned it out and we turned it into a cute little barn, I've got five box stalls and a feed area and tack area.
anyhow, last night was the last straw, I keep it clean and everything is hung up.
I took one of my good winter blankets off the rack and couldn't figure out why it was wet (realized later it was rat ****)..... then a rat ran out of it..... I screamed to say the least, it ruined my good blankets, its all chewed up. ugh
I need to get rid of them, I be there is hundreds under my barn.
I cant put out poison, I have a rescue that was living at the dump before we had him, he likes to eat anything dead, and hes good at finding them...
I dont have any cats, so that could be a start. unless I find a weasel??
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| Most cats aren’t bad ass enough to take on rats. You’d be better off with traps and maybe get a rat terrier dog if poison isn’t an option. |
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Location: N Texas | Make a water bucket trap. No poison and very effective!
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I run a grain elevator. You will not get rid of them with poison. They will figure out what is making them sick and they will quit eating it. You will not be able to trap them out either. The only thing that works is called tracking powder and you can't get it. You will need an exterminator to get rid of them. Tracking powder is a poison that is in the powder and it is put into their holes and runs and it sticks to their hair and they always groom themselves and that is how they injest it. |
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| I should mention, that I'm from canada!
I do have some ideas to get them under control in the spring and summer, but I want to start now! |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | SKM - 2019-01-04 11:00 AM Most cats aren’t bad ass enough to take on rats. You’d be better off with traps and maybe get a rat terrier dog if poison isn’t an option.
Most cats won't take on rats. I have seen a few that will; but as said, those cats were big and bad ass. A terrier would work too. I think terriers love that job.
I also looked up the bucket traps and saw good results with those. One article said old fashioned snap traps. They said you have to place them perpendicular to a wall. I guess rats like to folllow along a wall. Other responses sad they learn once a couple get killed and then don't go near them.
I hope you you find a solution. |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | Many years ago we did a similar thing as the trap. Cut a 55 gallon drum in half---filled about half full of water and put oats on top and ran a board up to it. They would try and get the oats and fall in and drown. I used to have to clean it out after school---YUCK.
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| TOUGH cats.... we had one I watched catch a rat......we have 2 feral ones I got from a rescue currently and we don't have mice...rats...nothing. They came from a dump and were trapped by the rescue to rehome to farm homes. I keep them fed and they stick around. They came fixed and vaccinated. They also get gophers and moles. They are not friendly and we see them but in no way can pet them.....our dogs haven't got them either..... these are the cats you need! |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | - be sure to remove all sources of food -- and this means just about anything a rat can chew on -- you may want to speak with your county extension agent for help with developing a plan to end their food sources
- hire a professional exterminator -- for the barn AND your home - you do not want to drive them from the barn to your home and your vehicles (they will chew wires in vehicles so be warned)
- keep horse feed in secured metal containers
- place things you value - tack, blankets, leather items, etc., into secure metal containers
- do not feed grain -- feed pellets and feed from containers that discourage your horse pushing pellets out onto the ground.
- find a great shot and on a nice, clear day, run a water hose into the rat holes so your shooter can blast away as they pop out .... do this a lot picking a new hole every day
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| Those sonic pest controllers work well but I find you need to replace the about every 3 months or so. |
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Location: Texas | We have a friend that is a retired vet. His grandson took over the old vet clinic after a remodel for him and his girlfriend to live. Pretty sweet deal for her since she had a great place to keep her horses and free veternary services. His only rule was that she could only feed his barn cats every other day. She took care of that by feeding them twice as much every other day.
Sorry, no help. I just thought that was funny. |
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| Check out Mouse Trap Monday on youtube.com
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| last night I was doing my barn chores and noticed that my boot bag that I have hung up had a hole in, they got into my boots and polos and chewed some up  (I almost cried throwing out 4 boots and 5 polos)
I snapped and cleaned up every corner of my barn! 5 hours later they "should" not be able to wreck anymore of my stuff... ugh
I've started by looking for a couple bad ass barn cats
I've purchased rat traps and I'm waiting to hear back from a exterminator
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| Bob tailed cats -- we have one and she is bad to the bone. Super friendly to people but don't mind whipping up on a dog, much less a rat. We call her Rhonda, as in Rousey..
Maybe she is just an exceptoional individual.. but find you some hearty, half wild ones.
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Cats. Cats. Cats.
We had an awful problem. Got 5-6 cats and no more rats. Make sure to get at least one Tom cat. We feed them once a day or every other day so they stay at the barn but their not so full that they won’t catch rats, snakes, exc. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Coca Cola. Put out a shallow pan on a cool night (keeps the fizz longer in cool temps). Rats love it, gorge and cannot burp, and in the case of pack rats, they cannot carry it off. If you have lots of them, it will probably take several pans. I used to have customers use this in chicken houses where they didn't want to use poison. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| and you can run a hose to a hole hook end to a running vechile i don/t reckon this but seen it done run gas in whole light run like hell yes have sen this done in souh georgia
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| I have 4 barn cats but only 1, Big Bertha, can catch mice and I've seen her with a a few rats as well. Only thing is shes tough on birds and bunnies too. I was able to get a baby bunny away from her before. As far as the free loading other 3 cats... they are pretty useless, but Bertha enjoys their company so I keep them fed, about every other day in the summer ... winter I feed daily so they can bulk up some. I never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes but chickens are pretty tough on rodents... at least my girls are... I've seen them attack my cat to get a mouse from her, they tore that mouse apart too. The look on my cats face was priceless lol! |
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Miracle in the Making
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| want2chase3 - 2019-01-07 8:28 PM
I have 4 barn cats but only 1, Big Bertha, can catch mice and I've seen her with a a few rats as well. Only thing is shes tough on birds and bunnies too. I was able to get a baby bunny away from her before. As far as the free loading other 3 cats... they are pretty useless, but Bertha enjoys their company so I keep them fed, about every other day in the summer ... winter I feed daily so they can bulk up some. I never believed it until I saw it with my own eyes but chickens are pretty tough on rodents... at least my girls are... I've seen them attack my cat to get a mouse from her, they tore that mouse apart too. The look on my cats face was priceless lol!
yes they are I was really surprise that they ae hell on mice
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| scwebster - 2019-01-07 1:09 PM
Bob tailed cats -- we have one and she is bad to the bone. Super friendly to people but don't mind whipping up on a dog, much less a rat. We call her Rhonda, as in Rousey..
Maybe she is just an exceptoional individual.. but find you some hearty, half wild ones.
Yes! Manx cats are the only cats that won’t even think twice about taking on a rat. I’d get females. We had a female Manx and she craved killing things much bigger than her. She was worthless on mice (they weren’t worth her effort).
With my normal cats, even those females are better hunters than the males. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | We board our horses, but between our neighbor and us we have 4 cats. We have a dog too, but our neighbor has just the 2 cats. I have a Tom and a female, both of my neighbors are females. They are all spayed/neutered. They all have been drop-offs or ferals.
My Tom and female are both aggressive. The female I think was a drop-off at about 8-10 weeks old. I say that because she was way to used to people and loves to come inside. The Tom was a feral,I think. He was friendly later and does not want to come in at all...I have tried. They are both big cats...the female is about 11-12lbs. full grown and the Tom is 17lbs. at about 10mos old. He is huge, especially for his age. Big bones and not fat at all. He looks like a Scottish Wildcat. He has the flat head and smaller ears pointing to the side and he is huge. They both eat really very well and really still 'hunt'. They both will take on literally anything...dogs, other cats, mice, big birds and all they have had a chance is field rats. Now, the Tom will 'patrol' usually during the day. He gets into fights. But, he left on Saturday night. He came home in the morning when I was out at about 4:30am covered from his head to his shoulders in wet/dried saliva. He had a good sized cut at the base of his left ear. No puncture wounds. He was really sore and it took about 36 hours of staying home/cared for before we was back to his normal self. We think it had to be a coyote or dog that got a hold of him by the head. He's back 'on patrol' this morning. My female stays close, but that Tom is different.
My neighbor's cats (one feral and one drop-off) are both stay at home and scared of a lot...not hunters.
Our county animal shelter has a barn cat program where they select what they think will make good barn cats. They also have a trap-nueter-return program for ferals for free if you want to keep a feral. They spay/neuter, rabies and give medical attention for free if want you to keep them. It is a wonderful shelter.
You really have to 'judge' the cat and whether they have the "killer" instinct. Now, as big as our Tom is, our female will still 'flatten' him. They are both are fierce 'killers'. I have heard too that Manx or "Bob Tails" are great hunters.
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Location: NC | My "barn" cat is not a hunter... she was a rescue from where we used to rent and when we bought and moved we felt bad and brought her. Shes an outdoor cat (whom my mom has just recently started let sleep in the mud room) but shes just not a hunter. My cattle dog on the other hand hunts anything. We had a mouse in the house. Yep found dead on the floor. Any bugs? kills them |
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Location: Arkansas | Racer4eva - 2019-01-08 8:03 PM
My "barn" cat is not a hunter... she was a rescue from where we used to rent and when we bought and moved we felt bad and brought her. Shes an outdoor cat (whom my mom has just recently started let sleep in the mud room) but shes just not a hunter. My cattle dog on the other hand hunts anything. We had a mouse in the house. Yep found dead on the floor. Any bugs? kills them
My last cat (Bitsy) died 4 years ago this month, but she was a good mouser. My Siberian (Luca), on the other hand, is a rat killin machine! I have a picture of the two of them hunting in the living room together right before Bits died. (Luc was "pushing" the mouse towards her!) Guess I just really told on myself for having mice in my house, didn't I  |
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Location: NC | Chandler's Mom - 2019-01-08 9:31 PM
Racer4eva - 2019-01-08 8:03 PM
My "barn" cat is not a hunter... she was a rescue from where we used to rent and when we bought and moved we felt bad and brought her. Shes an outdoor cat (whom my mom has just recently started let sleep in the mud room) but shes just not a hunter. My cattle dog on the other hand hunts anything. We had a mouse in the house. Yep found dead on the floor. Any bugs? kills them
My last cat (Bitsy ) died 4 years ago this month, but she was a good mouser. My Siberian (Luca ), on the other hand, is a rat killin machine! I have a picture of the two of them hunting in the living room together right before Bits died. (Luc was "pushing" the mouse towards her! ) Guess I just really told on myself for having mice in my house, didn't I
Think it comes with the territory of living in the country!! We had 2 mice. One the dog got and the other ended up on a sticky trap. |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Racer4eva - 2019-01-08 8:51 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2019-01-08 9:31 PM
Racer4eva - 2019-01-08 8:03 PM
My "barn" cat is not a hunter... she was a rescue from where we used to rent and when we bought and moved we felt bad and brought her. Shes an outdoor cat (whom my mom has just recently started let sleep in the mud room) but shes just not a hunter. My cattle dog on the other hand hunts anything. We had a mouse in the house. Yep found dead on the floor. Any bugs? kills them
My last cat (Bitsy ) died 4 years ago this month, but she was a good mouser. My Siberian (Luca ), on the other hand, is a rat killin machine! I have a picture of the two of them hunting in the living room together right before Bits died. (Luc was "pushing" the mouse towards her! ) Guess I just really told on myself for having mice in my house, didn't I
Think it comes with the territory of living in the country!! We had 2 mice. One the dog got and the other ended up on a sticky trap.
Ohhhh to only have 2 mice!!!! I will say that this winter they haven't been as bad as usual. (Probably wake up to 38 on the counter in the am since I said that. . . ) |
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Warrior Mom
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| Is it just me or do mice scare others? I freak out if I see one scurrying lol! I will no longer stick my hand into a feed bag or barrel without a bright light and inspecting it first! Ugh you can probably imagine why ..... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2019-01-09 8:13 AM Is it just me or do mice scare others? I freak out if I see one scurrying lol! I will no longer stick my hand into a feed bag or barrel without a bright light and inspecting it first! Ugh you can probably imagine why .....
Nawww, mice dont scare me if I see them first, but if I stick my hand in a bag of feed and one runs up my arm then you will hear me squeal, lol, had that happen a few times, its the unknown that scares me, ha ha ha ha.. |
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| Gads - we play sick games with the mice we trap (live trap). We give them to the cat/s to play with and kill. I know we're sick pups . . |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | lonely va barrelxr - 2019-01-09 10:47 AM
Gads - we play sick games with the mice we trap (live trap). We give them to the cat/s to play with and kill. I know we're sick pups . .
Luc found one in my tub (I can't believe I'm telling y'all these things!!) and I "rewarded" him with it. It didn't suffer. . . . |
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| I use this live trap. Works well. I hd to just buy another because I caught a small opossum and it broke it. So it's not indestructible unfortunately, but I'd still review it good.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0154F09I8?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_pd_tit...
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