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https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/laney+spoonful
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Who is claiming they are appendix? I can't see any way they would be? |
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| I can't see any TB blood in there either to make them appendix. Either someone is claiming them wrong or AQHA REALLY screwed something up. |
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| Her papers say appendix on them. She has an X before her registration number as does her dam. The only reason I looked so close is because my grandfather happens to have bred this mare (we bought her from someone else) and I knew her parents. Has to be a mistake.
How hard is it going to be to have the AQHA fix this?
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Location: MN | Sugar Bars is the only Appendix I see....and that's obviously way back there. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Do you have membership money? You can log on and pull a pedigree on her and find out where the appendix horse in her pedigree is. |
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| OregonBR - 2019-02-15 1:04 PM Do you have membership money? You can log on and pull a pedigree on her and find out where the appendix horse in her pedigree is.
I do, I also have her papers in hand and they all state quarter horse until her dam....neither of her dams parents are appendix. I think this is an error on the AQHAs part. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | scwebster - 2019-02-15 1:13 PM OregonBR - 2019-02-15 1:04 PM Do you have membership money? You can log on and pull a pedigree on her and find out where the appendix horse in her pedigree is. I do, I also have her papers in hand and they all state quarter horse until her dam....neither of her dams parents are appendix. I think this is an error on the AQHAs part.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-15 1:16 PM scwebster - 2019-02-15 1:13 PM OregonBR - 2019-02-15 1:04 PM Do you have membership money? You can log on and pull a pedigree on her and find out where the appendix horse in her pedigree is. I do, I also have her papers in hand and they all state quarter horse until her dam....neither of her dams parents are appendix. I think this is an error on the AQHAs part.
I haven't but plan to give them a call prior to sending in the transfer report. |
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Location: Arizona | The only thing I could think of is that one of the dam's parents earned an ROM and were advanced after the dam was born and nobody requested permanent numbers for the already existing offspring. But there are no appendix registered horses in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th generations, either. Looks like a weird error on AQHA's part.
Also, Sugar Bars was not appendix registered, he had a permanent number. I mean, he would have been appendix registered at birth, but he earned his racing ROM and was advanced into the permanent registry. Someone on the Allbreed site just has him mistakenly listed as "Appendix" instead of "Quarter Horse." There are mistakes like this all over that site.
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| On allbreed, Appendix is the very first choice when it asks for the breed. Then you have to scroll for a long time to get to Quarter Horse. I’m assuming some lazy person didn’t want to scroll. Anyone can edit a pedigree there. I edited Appendix on Sugar Bars to Quarter Horse. Heck, even the description on there lists his regisyeration number. And it isn’t an appendix number. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SKM - 2019-02-15 4:43 PM On allbreed, Appendix is the very first choice when it asks for the breed. Then you have to scroll for a long time to get to Quarter Horse. I’m assuming some lazy person didn’t want to scroll. Anyone can edit a pedigree there. I edited Appendix on Sugar Bars to Quarter Horse. Heck, even the description on there lists his regisyeration number. And it isn’t an appendix number.
The actual registration papers have her as appendix. I am also guessing mistake |
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Location: Arizona | wyoming barrel racer - 2019-02-16 7:29 PM SKM - 2019-02-15 4:43 PM On allbreed, Appendix is the very first choice when it asks for the breed. Then you have to scroll for a long time to get to Quarter Horse. I’m assuming some lazy person didn’t want to scroll. Anyone can edit a pedigree there. I edited Appendix on Sugar Bars to Quarter Horse. Heck, even the description on there lists his regisyeration number. And it isn’t an appendix number. The actual registration papers have her as appendix. I am also guessing mistake
(the Sugar Bars stuff is in relation to Kay-DRacing's post above.)
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| Just a heads up, even if it is an error that AQHA made, AQHA will try and charge you as the "current owner" to correct the mistake. I have had to argue and stand my ground with AQHA over mistakes they have made in the past. IMO, AQHA really needs to focus on improving their customer service. I totally understand why people don't keep papers current on their horses, fix mistakes, etc. If i do anything with AQHA now, i wait until i can see a rep in person at an event...and then i check everything on the papers right then and there. |
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| BFN - 2019-02-18 8:25 AM
Just a heads up, even if it is an error that AQHA made, AQHA will try and charge you as the "current owner" to correct the mistake. I have had to argue and stand my ground with AQHA over mistakes they have made in the past. IMO, AQHA really needs to focus on improving their customer service. I totally understand why people don't keep papers current on their horses, fix mistakes, etc. If i do anything with AQHA now, i wait until i can see a rep in person at an event...and then i check everything on the papers right then and there.
Thank you for the heads up, I hope this doesn't turn into a fiasco. |
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| I have never had a problem with AQHA UNTIL we attended Dixie Nationals in 2017. There was a guy that knew my trainer well that said he was responsible for the timer and everything involved with it. Seems some bimbo stopped the timer during my horse’s run. There was no back up timer which is an AQHA rule. The woman said she stopped the timer. AQHA did not responded to any phone call, letter, email, nothing. Dixie Nationals sent me a letter saying that since my trainer was offered a reride everything was ok. (She really wasn’t offered a reride. She was told she would have to run again after the next ten horses) Ever since I have had problems transferring horses, registering babies you name it. The best one was the last time I called about a new registration, the woman told me that I needed to get the breeder to have a statement notarized then I would have to have that statement notarized and send it to them. Breeder and I live 250 miles apart. All this hassle and the papers had already been mailed. This is is the very short version of the Dixie Nationals story. Point is the show did not adhere to AQHA RULES and AQHA did nothing. If you question anything they do you are screwed.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | streakysox - 2019-02-18 1:06 PM
I have never had a problem with AQHA UNTIL we attended Dixie Nationals in 2017. There was a guy that knew my trainer well that said he was responsible for the timer and everything involved with it. Seems some bimbo stopped the timer during my horse’s run. There was no back up timer which is an AQHA rule. The woman said she stopped the timer. AQHA did not responded to any phone call, letter, email, nothing. Dixie Nationals sent me a letter saying that since my trainer was offered a reride everything was ok. (She really wasn’t offered a reride. She was told she would have to run again after the next ten horses) Ever since I have had problems transferring horses, registering babies you name it. The best one was the last time I called about a new registration, the woman told me that I needed to get the breeder to have a statement notarized then I would have to have that statement notarized and send it to them. Breeder and I live 250 miles apart. All this hassle and the papers had already been mailed.
This is is the very short version of the Dixie Nationals story. Point is the show did not adhere to AQHA RULES and AQHA did nothing. If you question anything they do you are screwed.
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| Yeah,...and then LMAO, if you don't comply with what AQHA wants you to do, they can say you are "not in good standing". Good thing i am not afraid to be a rebel and stand up for what is right.  |
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| BFN - 2019-02-18 1:18 PM
Yeah,...and then LMAO, if you don't comply with what AQHA wants you to do, they can say you are "not in good standing". Good thing i am not afraid to be a rebel and stand up for what is right.
Oh I hope not. Anyone with the slightest pedigree knowledge can see these paper should be QH. I just hope I get in touch with someone who is willing to help. |
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| So I spoke with AQHA, and the person told me to fill out a correction form... however there is no place on the form for this type of correction. Going to call them back and explain in further detail.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | scwebster - 2019-02-18 2:00 PM BFN - 2019-02-18 1:18 PM Yeah,...and then LMAO, if you don't comply with what AQHA wants you to do, they can say you are "not in good standing". Good thing i am not afraid to be a rebel and stand up for what is right. Oh I hope not. Anyone with the slightest pedigree knowledge can see these paper should be QH. I just hope I get in touch with someone who is willing to help.
I would call, I have never had any problems with anyone at AQHA, they have always been so helpful and answered any questions I have had and helped get papers on a horse I had bought that were lost, it took a while but the girl that was helping me made it happen..
I would not send in the original papers untill I have talked to someone that is willing to look into the matter so that they can work with you to make it right.
I knew a lady that worked in the office many years ago, she was so nice, we talked about some of the callers and she said some would call and right away they had a attitude so that would rub off, so I say call the office to get to the place you need so you can get that paper fixed, but make it a pleasant call,  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-18 2:13 PM
scwebster - 2019-02-18 2:00 PM BFN - 2019-02-18 1:18 PM Yeah,...and then LMAO, if you don't comply with what AQHA wants you to do, they can say you are "not in good standing". Good thing i am not afraid to be a rebel and stand up for what is right. Oh I hope not. Anyone with the slightest pedigree knowledge can see these paper should be QH. I just hope I get in touch with someone who is willing to help.
I would call, I have never had any problems with anyone at AQHA, they have always been so helpful and answered any questions I have had and helped get papers on a horse I had bought that were lost, it took a while but the girl that was helping me made it happen..
I would not send in the original papers untill I have talked to someone that is willing to look into the matter so that they can work with you to make it right.
I knew a lady that worked in the office many years ago, she was so nice, we talked about some of the callers and she said some would call and right away they had a attitude so that would rub off, so I say call the office to get to the place you need so you can get that paper fixed, but make it a pleasant call,
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| UPDATE: Spoke with the AQHA, they were very accomodating and helpful. They let me know that the filly's dam had once been thought to be out of an appendix mare and she was registered as such. Then DNA proved she was in fact out of a cowbred mare. The pedigree was corrected but there was never a regular AQHA number assigned to her (they said error on their part). SO that resulted in our filly being registered appendix. I was then transfered to the DNA department where I told the whole tale over again. I have been instructed to send a signed letter explaining all of this along with the transfer report. Apparently they are going to have a rep reach out to the registered owner of the dam to verify....however the first rep was the person who gave me the information initially so it is evident that the AQHA has these notes somewhere. Anyways..seems they are trying to get everything straight.. I just hope there are no issues that cause the holding of these papers.. Appendix papers are better than no papers..
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