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Location: North Dakota | I know this has been a hot topic lately. I know there is the Purina Outlast, and the Ultium, and then the Ultium Gastric (which is basically the Outlast and Ultium combined).
I finally was able to get my hands on a bag of the Ultium Gastric last fall but only fed it for a couple weeks before we were done for the season, so pretty excited to start feeding it this spring and see if it helps my grey with his normal end-of-season cinchiness. But of course if you actually read the label, they suggest you feed quite a bit of it. I never give my horses that much grain.
I don't think I can get the regular Outlast in my area (of course, I haven't looked hard yet) but I'm just kind of curious on the difference since the Outlast doesn't suggest that you have to feed a lot of it, according to the bag directions.
I suppose it's because there is "less" of the Outlast in the Ultium Gastric???
Anyone have any comparison on using the Outlast versus the Ultium Gastric?
My "barn" is my horse trailer, so it's a lot easier for me to have as few bags as possible open at a time. I know some people feed both the regular Ultium and the Outlast, but it would be space saving for me to feed the Ultium Gastric. And of course I wouldn't mind having the higher fat that the Ultium Gastric provides, compared to the regular Outlast. It's just interesting they suggest to feed so much.
Edited by r_beau 2019-02-15 1:17 PM
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Location: North Dakota | I haven't used the gastric care ultium. I have used regular outlast. 1 cup per day made a difference on a overly reactive mare I had last spring. Our runnings here in Fargo, ND carries the regular outlast.
ETA: The feeding rates between ultium and ultium gastric care look similar to me? 6-8.0 pounds for a 1,000 horse in moderate to heavy work. Every 4lbs of ultium gastric care provides 1 serving of outlast the purina site says. Either way it is a lot of grain IMO.
Edited by MidWest1452 2019-02-15 2:29 PM
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 Warrior Mom
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| I use the outlast by itself. It truly does make a difference in 2 of my horses. I tried the ultium gastric but I dont feed enough grain to get all the benefits of it. I'm only feeding mine 2lbs of "grain" per day top dressed with a cup.of the outlast. |
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 It Goes On
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Location: Muskogee, OK | Kind of off of your topic, but kind of not... I had a horse that was mildly "ulcery", in that he would go off feed at weekend-stay shows but still looked great etc. I decided to try him on BB Omega Force. I had fed BB before, the Equilene line, and wasnt especially impressed with it. It was a good feed, but nothing that wow'ed me.
I will tell you, BB Omega Force has actually "wow'ed" me. I switched him and had gone to an away for the weekend show within 2 weeks- he finished his feed all weekend long. Has made me a believer since then. I am a big fan, only have to feed 3 lbs per horse per day, so small portions. Overall just very impressed with the product. Maybe something to look into |
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | I don't and I never really have because its just too much for my horse. TC gets about 2-3lbs per day and I top dress with his hemp oil, Zesterra, and Grand Meadows Premium plus supplement. He looks and feels great on that, so I'm not going to change it up unless I have to. |
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| I second the Zesterra. I’ve seen phenomenal results . I would go with a low starch /low sugar feed. I tried the Ultium gastric and the horses I had at the time didn’t like it. You could try the regular Ultium and the outlast if you want to feed Ultium. But with ulcer prone horses you usually do not want to feed a lot of grain. Bluebonnet Omega Force is a high fat feed but doesn’t have anything added in it for ulcers. You feed 3 to 4 pounds a day which is good for a ulcers horse. I would add Zesterra to the feed. Feed Alfalfa and the. Free choice grass hay |
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 I hate cooking and cleaning
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Location: Jersey Girl | According to package instructions its supposed to be fed 3-4 times a day to be effective. That would rule it out for me since my horse only gets grain once a day. |
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Do you feed the "recommended" amount of Purina Ultium Gastric?