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       Location: Missouri | FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
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    Location: Pittsburg, Texas 75686 | Bill Clinton 17 National Emergencies (1 remains active today), George W Bush 13 National Emergencies (11 remain active today), Obam 12 National Emegencies (10 remain active), Donald Trump 4 National Emergencies (3 currently active). Soooo, tell me how anyone can complain about President Trump?? All Presidents do it when they feel it is necessary....we are in the middle of an invasion and our country on the way to being destroyed. Trump is the only President that has worked this hard to protect us. Build the wall ASAP, stop illegal immigration, stop chain migration, and stop the Visa lottery. Fix the loop holes and let our country hear. I live in Texas....people are hurting because of the illegal immigration and our schools are suffering. More is spent on illegal immigration than our own citizen children who are getting left behind. |
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       Location: Missouri | Let me clarify. I don't think that Trump shouldn't have done this. Quite the opposite. I'm sitting here thankful he's continuing to fight for what this country NEEDS done, despite the dems best efforts to stop him.
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Whiteboy - 2019-02-15 1:55 PM
OregonBR - 2019-02-15 3:21 PM We need to make sure they never get the presidency again or we are toast. I'm not exaggerating either.
I think we are toast no matter what. Anything he (Trump) can do between now and then just buys us a little time.
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| MOGirl07 - 2019-02-15 2:33 PM
FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
Pelosi is already talking about using it for gun control .....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-warns-republicans-trumps-national-emergency-sets-precedent-for-future-democratic-administrations |
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       Location: Missouri | EagleJess - 2019-02-15 9:40 PM
MOGirl07 - 2019-02-15 2:33 PM
FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM
I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box.....
Me too.....not from Trump per se, but the next dem president. Who's to say that he/she will not declare a National Emergency like....to take away guns, for stricter gun control?
IDK. I just think we should be wary of the type of precedent this sets. But then again, Obama declared a state of emergency somewhere around 13 times and Clinton 17 times? I think. So it's definitely not unheard of.
Pelosi is already talking about using it for gun control .....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-warns-republicans-trumps-national-emergency-sets-precedent-for-future-democratic-administrations
I saw that. Makes me sick. I'm like it's a constitutional right you tired old hag. Leave it alone! >:( |
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        Location: Kansas | Never underestimate Donald Trump. The man is a genius. He has tons of money to spend between now and the time the Supreme Court okays this National Emergency step. The wall is being built. My heart melts when I see the Angel moms and dads at these events and I was happy to see them confront Bob Acosta the CNN grinch. I've heard their stories many times on FOX. Liberal media will not talk to them and Nancy Pelosi won't speak with them when they try to explain to her how illegal immigrants are killing their children. Nancy Pelosi is pathetic and I'm wondering more and more if her 100 million in assets and walled-in seaside mansion aren't the product of cartel money. |
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I have friends, colleagues, and relatives who hate Trump and hate everything conservative with a passion, but most are on my “side”....and therein lies the problem. We have two “sides” on the verge of war with one another. There are people I’ve known all my life and within the last 10 years or so we’ve become enemies.
I think we live in a pressure cooker. I really think something will happen and an all out war will ensue, eventually. I hope to hell Im wrong. Some crazy sh!t going on. I think there will be a flash point.
Don’t lose sight of the possibility of something happening to Trump.
He has powerful, cunning enemies. One way or the other, they are determined to take him out. If he survives Mueller and if he is re-elected, someone will try to take him out. If that happens, all hell will break lose.
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        Location: Kansas | A huge part of this problem, Bear, is the liberal media who spew lies and hatred 24/7. People tend to believe them. Even late night comedians joined forces and I personally despise them for this. They're supposed to be comedians not politicians. Don't even get me started on the Hollywood numbnuts. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | It’s pointless to list who is to blame or identify who is on which side.
We all know the answers there.
If you think my fear of a civil war is nuts, then google: “Is the US on the brink of civil war?” You’ll be bombarded with all sorts of scenarios and serious discussions. It’s very sobering, and people need to talk about it.
Conservatives are pretty confident they would prevail over the snowflakes. I don’t share that confidence at all. Most young, healthy people are liberal-Progressive, and a big percentage of them support socialism over capitalism.
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      Location: Arkansas | Bear - 2019-02-16 9:14 AM It’s pointless to list who is to blame or identify who is on which side. We all know the answers there. If you think my fear of a civil war is nuts, then google: “Is the US on the brink of civil war?” You’ll be bombarded with all sorts of scenarios and serious discussions. It’s very sobering, and people need to talk about it. Conservatives are pretty confident they would prevail over the snowflakes. I don’t share that confidence at all. Most young, healthy people are liberal-Progressive, and a big percentage of them support socialism over capitalism. If it ever happens, what will emerge will bear no resemblance to the America we all knew and loved.
I have the same fear, Mr Scott. Chandler and I have talked about this seriously since he was 18, and I truly believe it's closer than ever. . . |
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| FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box..... I agree, no telling in the future who will use this tatic to push thru their agenda just like Trump is doing. At the end of the year when they redo budgets, I can’t think of what it’s called right now , but he has the opportunity then to get the money.
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FlyingJT - 2019-02-15 2:28 PM I'm afraid it's opening Pandora's Box..... I agree, no telling in the future who will use this tatic to push thru their agenda just like Trump is doing. At the end of the year when they redo budgets, I can’t think of what it’s called right now , but he has the opportunity then to get the money.
I think you are referring to “sequestration”. If projected budgets exceed a certain amount, without the cooperation of the president, a “sequestration” kicks in, in which there are automatic cuts in domestic discretionary spending (ie: not SS, Medicare, etc...). The projected estimate is for a cut of about $55 Billion in September.
Trump and congress can override this, I believe. Trump might ask for say another $5 Billion for the wall, and if he doesn’t get it, the sequestration automatically kicks in.
Either they give him $5-6 Billion more for the wall, or $55 Billion is automatically cut from domestic spending. He doesn’t have to be backed into a government shutdown. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | I have family and several good friends that are never Trumpers and are beside themselves over him declaring a national emergency. Went in and on about how Obummer declared the ones he did for Lybia and Somalia, etc after they had national emergencies not to get past overriding political checks and balances. My point is why in the world is is okay to use it for other nations and not our very own???????? |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | So. Just as I knew last week but didn't want to speculate because my sources are not on the approved list for this discussion board I waited until I had proof that was above reproach. Here it is. What it says in a nutshell is the dems can suck it because Trump can and will do whatever he wants with the money to build the wall and he's got more from other sources to total about 8 billion. The clause about consulting with the officials in the Rio Grande Valley is just that. Consult. They don't have to approve of what the wall will be or where it will be. "These phrases below imply that Trump plans on following his constitutional rights no matter what he signed in the “Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019” (the “Act”), which authorizes appropriations to fund the operation of a number of agencies in the Federal Government through September 30, 2019. “My Administration will treat each of these provisions consistent with the President’s constitutional authorities with respect to foreign relations.” And “my Administration will continue the practice of treating provisions like these as advisory and non-binding.” And “My Administration will make appropriate efforts to notify the relevant committees before taking the specified actions and will accord the recommendations of such committees all appropriate and serious consideration, but it will not treat spending decisions as dependent on the approval of congressional committees.” 

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        Location: Kansas | This is a little off topic but important to know about the left. Angel Moms and Dads last week went to Nancy Pelosi's office to meet with her about the dangers of illegals and how they are "killing their children" in the words of Dan Ferguson whose 28-year-old beautiful daughter was run down by a drunken illegal driver. She was crossing the street. He had run two red lights. He had been deported but was back. These people come and go as they please. Most importantly, when these Angel parents showed up at her office to speak with her, she called the Capitol police and had them removed. I don't know how it gets any more despicable than this. How would she feel if the victim's last name was Pelosi.
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Welp.....dang. Do you suppose Trump had his ducks in a row before last week?
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       Location: Missouri | Frodo - 2019-02-18 8:14 AM
This is a little off topic but important to know about the left. Angel Moms and Dads last week went to Nancy Pelosi's office to meet with her about the dangers of illegals and how they are "killing their children" in the words of Dan Ferguson whose 28-year-old beautiful daughter was run down by a drunken illegal driver. She was crossing the street. He had run two red lights. He had been deported but was back. These people come and go as they please.
Most importantly, when these Angel parents showed up at her office to speak with her, she called the Capitol police and had them removed. I don't know how it gets any more despicable than this. How would she feel if the victim's last name was Pelosi.
Pelosi is a horrible human being....all there is to it. She doesn't give one hoot about any of the American people. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Another thing I "heard" last night is. Yes there will still be a suit by the dems. It will end up at SCOTUS most likely. But the only funds that are held up by the legal challenges is the $1.375 billion that is actually in the bill. The balance of the roughly $8 billion is available without their approval or interference. Anyone who doubts this man has his ducks in a row, just hasn't been paying attention for the last 3 years. That's MY president. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Ruperto Escobar was on the San Antiono news last night talking about how we need the wall and hes a farmer along the Rio Grande river and is willing to give up part of his land for it, he knows and sees the danger.. Look up the flim clip on him, its San Antiono news channel 12 or KSAT news, you can go to their Facebook and see it there, I would put it here but have not master doing live links,, I wonder if these news reports on our border with the people that live on the border ever really gets out there like in different states. Do any of you that live up in the uppers states ever see these reports? Just wanted to add that Ruperto lives in Starr County Texas..
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MOGirl07 - 2019-02-18 9:50 AM
Frodo - 2019-02-18 8:14 AM
This is a little off topic but important to know about the left. Angel Moms and Dads last week went to Nancy Pelosi's office to meet with her about the dangers of illegals and how they are "killing their children" in the words of Dan Ferguson whose 28-year-old beautiful daughter was run down by a drunken illegal driver. She was crossing the street. He had run two red lights. He had been deported but was back. These people come and go as they please.
Most importantly, when these Angel parents showed up at her office to speak with her, she called the Capitol police and had them removed. I don't know how it gets any more despicable than this. How would she feel if the victim's last name was Pelosi.
Pelosi is a horrible human being....all there is to it. She doesn't give one hoot about any of the American people.
She just likes lining her pocket book, the hard working Americans dont matter to people like her. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | STPG I do see them. But I'm friends with horse people all over the country and I'm already tuned into that type of news. But I'm pretty sure, all the social media outlets try to remove these things from the feed. The MSM is our enemy just like Trump says. They do NOT tell the truth. Usually the opposite. |
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Ruperto Escobar was on the San Antiono news last night talking about how we need the wall and hes a farmer along the Rio Grande river and is willing to give up part of his land for it, he knows and sees the danger.. Look up the flim clip on him, its San Antiono news channel 12 or KSAT news, you can go to their Facebook and see it there, I would put it here but have not master doing live links,, I wonder if these news reports on our border with the people that live on the border ever really gets out there like in different states. Do any of you that live up in the uppers states ever see these reports?
Just wanted to add that Ruperto lives in Starr County Texas..
I live in Iowa. I really don't watch the news much because it's depressing. I kind of feel like the only reason I know what's going on at the border is because I have friends in Texas and Arizona who talk about it a lot. I doubt I'd know as much without them. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Nateracer - 2019-02-18 10:11 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-18 9:59 AM
Ruperto Escobar was on the San Antiono news last night talking about how we need the wall and hes a farmer along the Rio Grande river and is willing to give up part of his land for it, he knows and sees the danger.. Look up the flim clip on him, its San Antiono news channel 12 or KSAT news, you can go to their Facebook and see it there, I would put it here but have not master doing live links,, I wonder if these news reports on our border with the people that live on the border ever really gets out there like in different states. Do any of you that live up in the uppers states ever see these reports?
Just wanted to add that Ruperto lives in Starr County Texas..
I live in Iowa. I really don't watch the news much because it's depressing.
I kind of feel like the only reason I know what's going on at the border is because I have friends in Texas and Arizona who talk about it a lot. I doubt I'd know as much without them.
I was kinda wondering if all the news about the border and what happens in Mexico really gets out there, I understand about not watching news, its does get really depression at times. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | OregonBR - 2019-02-18 10:09 AM
STPG I do see them. But I'm friends with horse people all over the country and I'm already tuned into that type of news. But I'm pretty sure, all the social media outlets try to remove these things from the feed. The MSM is our enemy just like Trump says. They do NOT tell the truth. Usually the opposite.
I agree the MSM and all the other fake news people what America to think all is safe and good on the border, wont show what is really happening.. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2019-02-18 8:52 AM
If you have FOX news you will miss nothing, and SouthTx, including the farmer/rancher you referenced above. It's why liberals absolutely hate FOX and why so many people watch it. Without them, everyone would be in the dark.
Well not really. Fox news is the only thing on TV that is even putting some of the real information out. But they are weeks behind the alternative news. There are MANY people who are citizen journalists that put real (well researched and credible) news out. You just have to go find them on Youtube or their own hosted podcasts. |
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Frodo - 2019-02-18 8:52 AM
If you have FOX news you will miss nothing, and SouthTx, including the farmer/rancher you referenced above. It's why liberals absolutely hate FOX and why so many people watch it. Without them, everyone would be in the dark.
Well not really. Fox news is the only thing on TV that is even putting some of the real information out. But they are weeks behind the alternative news. There are MANY people who are citizen journalists that put real (well researched and credible) news out. You just have to go find them on Youtube or their own hosted podcasts.
Griff Jenkins from FOX joined the caravans coming from Central America and reported everyday on their progress. That's pretty up to date. He also interviewed a lot of the migrants. The mayor of Tijuana is right. Many are pot-smoking bums. |
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Frodo - 2019-02-18 8:52 AM
If you have FOX news you will miss nothing, and SouthTx, including the farmer/rancher you referenced above. It's why liberals absolutely hate FOX and why so many people watch it. Without them, everyone would be in the dark.
Well not really. Fox news is the only thing on TV that is even putting some of the real information out. But they are weeks behind the alternative news. There are MANY people who are citizen journalists that put real (well researched and credible) news out. You just have to go find them on Youtube or their own hosted podcasts.
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | Frodo - 2019-02-17 11:52 AM
If you have FOX news you will miss nothing, and SouthTx, including the farmer/rancher you referenced above. It's why liberals absolutely hate FOX and why so many people watch it. Without them, everyone would be in the dark.
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I hope some of you had a chance to hear him speak to a group of Venezuelan-Americans in Miami today. It was one of his best ever. Amazing clarity....didn’t mince words.
It was really, really good. And no, he did not mince words. I was going to start another thread, about 10 minutes before his speech in Miami started to let people know it was on. However, I would then have had to say I was on FNC and I just didn’t want to start ‘another’ one of ‘those’ threads. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | SoDak - 2019-02-19 12:41 PM
Forgive me as I don't follow politics extremely closely but I cannot figure out why Dems do not want a wall? They act like we cannot allow anyone in if the wall built but what blows my mind is that they can IF they do it legally.
I don't understand why they've made a big deal out of this??
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. Why do they resist a wall?? We can speculate about different reasons. Some or all may be true. In the grand scheme of things the cost of the wall we need (IMO) is minor compared to the waste of taxpayer dollars on things we don't need and shouldn't be spending money on. For instance aid to people who hate us and would like to kill us all. |
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     Location: OH. IO | SoDak - 2019-02-19 3:41 PM
Forgive me as I don't follow politics extremely closely but I cannot figure out why Dems do not want a wall? They act like we cannot allow anyone in if the wall built but what blows my mind is that they can IF they do it legally.
I don't understand why they've made a big deal out of this??
Because they want our president to be a failure,and if people don't register to vote,and stand up for this country,we will all fail. |
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SoDak - 2019-02-19 3:41 PM
Forgive me as I don't follow politics extremely closely but I cannot figure out why Dems do not want a wall? They act like we cannot allow anyone in if the wall built but what blows my mind is that they can IF they do it legally.
I don't understand why they've made a big deal out of this??
Because they want our president to be a failure,and if people don't register to vote,and stand up for this country,we will all fail.
I would say that as well. Except they never really thought an outsider would win the presidency and so they gave lip service to the immigration problem for 3+ decades while they didn't follow through. They even went so far as to allocate money to bills they passed. But they never built a wall that would keep anyone out or no wall at all. Which brings up another question. What happened to the money?? Trump is building walls decades later when the cost of every is more. He's getting a lot of wall for the money he's spending. So they were all hat and no cow. They never intended to build a wall. EVER.  |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | run n rate - 2019-02-19 4:06 PM My cousin is a never Trumper, he is adamant that Trump doesn't even care about the illegals and he is only talking about them to distract from the Mueller investigation...mic drop. I asked how in the world that Trump ran on the promise of a wall LONGGG before the Mueller "investigation began. Subject was quickly changed.... Yep...that’s exactly the way it goes each and every time. It is definitely Trump Derangement Syndrome. He is just hated. But that is how they argue...argue on facts, then the topic is dropped, you move to another grievance, or just start talking about the weather. LOL But God forbid if anyone spoke out against what Obama did for 8 years, you would have been a racist then too.
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | run n rate - 2019-02-19 2:06 PM
My cousin is a never Trumper, he is adamant that Trump doesn't even care about the illegals and he is only talking about them to distract from the Mueller investigation...mic drop. I asked how in the world that Trump ran on the promise of a wall LONGGG before the Mueller "investigation began. Subject was quickly changed....

Honest question here. How can people still believe the dems retoric? I'm completely at a loss. True story: When I was a teenager (13-15) I had a horse and used to ride all over the small town we lived in. I met all sorts of people. I met two boys (neighbors) who were a little bit older than I, and we rode together and hung out. All innocent stuff. Fast forward a few years. I got hired at the same company one of the men was working at. We again hung out and were friends. Then the company we were working for closed (long story) and we lost touch. The other man I saw more than the first one because he also was into horses but more show horse and I was into speed events. But we saw each other casually for many years when we were at a horse sale or somewhere at the same time. FF again. I am FB friends with the second man. I found out over the course of our knowing each other he's gay. He reposts and likes a lot of my political posts. Definitely not a democrat. I recently had a reason to reconnect with man #1 and we are completely polar opposites politically. Both smart men with similar backgrounds but one is a democrat with views that are 180 degrees different from mine. The other seems to get my views and agree with them. I've been thinking about the democrat for several days asking myself how can he believe the way he does? I don't get it. I want to understand. |
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          Location: 31 lengths farms | OregonBR - 2019-02-20 2:43 PM run n rate - 2019-02-19 2:06 PM My cousin is a never Trumper, he is adamant that Trump doesn't even care about the illegals and he is only talking about them to distract from the Mueller investigation...mic drop. I asked how in the world that Trump ran on the promise of a wall LONGGG before the Mueller "investigation began. Subject was quickly changed.... 
Honest question here. How can people still believe the dems retoric? I'm completely at a loss. True story: When I was a teenager (13-15) I had a horse and used to ride all over the small town we lived in. I met all sorts of people. I met two boys (neighbors) who were a little bit older than I, and we rode together and hung out. All innocent stuff. Fast forward a few years. I got hired at the same company one of the men was working at. We again hung out and were friends. Then the company we were working for closed (long story) and we lost touch. The other man I saw more than the first one because he also was into horses but more show horse and I was into speed events. But we saw each other casually for many years when we were at a horse sale or somewhere at the same time. FF again. I am FB friends with the second man. I found out over the course of our knowing each other he's gay. He reposts and likes a lot of my political posts. Definitely not a democrat. I recently had a reason to reconnect with man #1 and we are completely polar opposites politically. Both smart men with similar backgrounds but one is a democrat with views that are 180 degrees different from mine. The other seems to get my views and agree with them. I've been thinking about the democrat for several days asking myself how can he believe the way he does? I don't get it. I want to understand. I kind of have an idea where my cousin's views come from...and its health coverage. Because of some health issues his family has they are now in a bit of a bind and he supports "free" health care for all. He had to quit his job to caretake for a family member.
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 Warrior Mom
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| My mother and father in law are dems... if at anytime the holiday conversations get boring ... my hubby brings up politics just to get a rise out of his dad lol! Their way of thinking is completely skewed and theres just no reasoning with them when it comes to this stuff. |
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