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| What would you consider to be reasonably priced when it comes to reserving stalls and RV hookups at a multiple day event? Say for instance this event has $15,000 added with stalls and hookups being for 3 nights (Thurs, Fri, and Sat nights) with a bag of shavings included in the stall rental. At what point is too much for your stall and RV hookup? P.s. this post is not intended to price gouge and see what we could jack the prices to, but rather figure out if we need to work more toward getting sponsors and fundraising to lower the prices. Right now we are looking at an $80 stall fee and $80 RV hookup fee for the 4 day/3 night span. Thanks in advance for any input!
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    Location: East Texas | All of the above are high to me. |
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| CrossDRanch - 2019-02-28 3:14 PM
All of the above are high to me.
What would you consider reasonable then? |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | They seem high to me separated out. For me, it depends on stall, what it is, how many bags I have to provide in addition to the stall charge, do I have to put down a ‘foundation’ of some sort, etc.. Bigger shows can run higher. As far as RV hook-up, that can run $35-125 depending on show and how many days. |
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| Gator Bug - 2019-02-28 3:25 PM
They seem high to me separated out. For me, it depends on stall, what it is, how many bags I have to provide in addition to the stall charge, do I have to put down a ‘foundation’ of some sort, etc.. Bigger shows can run higher.
As far as RV hook-up, that can run $35-125 depending on show and how many days.
Stalls in question are 12x12, permanent stalls, dirt floors. No requirements for any additional bags over what comes with the stall. Not even required to purchase shavings on site. |
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       Location: Washington | As a facility owner, I feel the $60 for stall and RV for the 4 day/3 night is fair, especially if bedding is provided. It's equivilant to my rates and I've never heard a complaint. Depending on if I'd pay the $80 for each would depend on the event, how close to home and how bad I wanted to go. Does the place offer dry camping? If so free or a charge? Self penning? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | When I went to ANHA in Waco I'm thinking we payed 65 for stalls for the 3 nights we were there and 60 for the RV for the three nights also. I know it was not any more then that.. Seems like it was 120 for the both.. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-28 2:48 PM
When I went to ANHA in Waco I'm thinking we payed 65 for stalls for the 3 nights we were there and 60 for the RV for the three nights also. I know it was not any more then that.. Seems like it was 120 for the both..
Shavings not included.. maybe one bag, but who uses only one bag. I have always used at least 8 or more bags threw out the days I were there since I was always cleaning stalls and having to use more shavings to replace what I would throw out. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I see that the stalls and rv's have gone up since I'v been to ANHA,, RV...Thurs-Monday 100 Friday-Monday 75 Stalls...Thurs-Monday 95 Friday-Monday 75 |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-28 2:52 PM Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-28 2:48 PM When I went to ANHA in Waco I'm thinking we payed 65 for stalls for the 3 nights we were there and 60 for the RV for the three nights also. I know it was not any more then that.. Seems like it was 120 for the both.. Shavings not included.. maybe one bag, but who uses only one bag. I have always used at least 8 or more bags threw out the days I were there since I was always cleaning stalls and having to use more shavings to replace what I would throw out. That’s the point. If I am at a big show staying for 4-5 days, I am going through 8 bags. If you go to Congress, you need some kind of sub-floor. Plus, you usually have to clean the stalls out prior to putting down your own bedding/sub-floor. Congress can be really high for what you get/have to do. Plus, you go through 8 bags. If you go to OKC for any big show, you will still do 8 bags in 4-5 days. But they are basic stalls and ready to go. We still put down a sub-floor. Have been to other places, for like 2-3 nights and paid $35-40 for stalls (plus like 4-5 bags of my shavings) and maybe $50 for hook-ups. That is a medium size show..150-250 head.
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe... Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show) Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night..... stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls) |
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  Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Guthrie lazy e charges like 60$ for stalls plus shavings - I understand something needs paid because someone has to clean all those stalls out when we leave but I feel like they’re making a ton of money even at this median rate - doesn’t take 30 minutes to strip a stall and most of the time these bigger places use bobcat and open the stalls up and it’s pretty quick ... bbr okc wants 95 for stalls plus shavings - and that seems high to me but if you wanna go you gotta pay it... there’s overhead and I understand that they have to hire janitors and groundskeepers and all thatbcosts money but most ropings I go to have way more added money and pots and the stalls are like 30$ for the weekend and include two bags of shavings and rv plug in was free .. people like to compare the winnings at ropings and want higher pots but something’s gotta give - and stall fees and grounds fees while I understand they have to get paid but at some point it’s not affordable to pay higher entries higher stall fees higher rv fees etc etc I mean we still have to feed shoe andnvet our horses not to mention fuel and expenses to get to the races and can only use their shavings stinks too when it’s double the cost of a bag of shavings anywhere else. Definitely makes me pick and choose where I go sometimes! Would also add I don’t mind 60$ but higher than that per horse I start to question my logic for going lol |
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  Location: Illinois | Place down the road from me started charging $48 for 2 nights for stalls with 1 bag of bedding when the new people took it over, they don't sell out of stalls anymore. They have a no tie out rule as well. A lot of people started hauling daily if they were fairly close. Our NBHA state is $70 for a stall I think with no shavings and it was I think $25 a night for electric. Lots of people now run generators. Prices weren't advertised for electric beforehand, they had always been $20 nightly before. That caused a good stir. Our state show isn't hardly worht going anymore, but if it were a higher money show with more entires like Great Lakes, or a barrel bash then I'd be more comfotable paying that for the time I'm there. We always go first thing Thursday morning-Sunday evening so I feel for 4 days it's not awful. They charge electric by the night, so we plug in for 4 days and only pay for 3. Same kind of thing down the road, I go friday morning and leave late sunday eveneing so I'm getting 3 days and 2 nights for $40 there. It's a half hour drive and a $15 jump out per horse, easier to just stay the weekend. But typically I think for a 3 day event, somehwere between $60-70 for each is fair and would make me more inclined to keep coming to future events. Big shows like World and stuff charge more bc they can, they know those people are going to still come to something that major. A weekend event doesn't quite have that certainty unless the money is penomenal. |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | CJE - 2019-02-28 4:08 PM
Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe...
Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show)
Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night.....
stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls)
But the stalls are only $45 for two nights at Perry for a cutting.............................. |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | I did forget to add that I think producers in the last 5-10 years raised rates on both stalls and even more hook-ups. More people got LQ trailers and I guess it is supply/demand. |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | 3canstorun - 2019-02-28 3:57 PM
CJE - 2019-02-28 4:08 PM
Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe...
Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show)
Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night.....
stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls)
But the stalls are only $45 for two nights at Perry for a cutting..............................
I would think that if cutting was less, they are making it up in an entry fee or somewhere else. It is like taxes, you pay it somewhere. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Gator Bug - 2019-02-28 4:05 PM
I did forget to add that I think producers in the last 5-10 years raised rates on both stalls and even more hook-ups. More people got LQ trailers and I guess it is supply/demand.
Alot with LQ's have generators so really dont need to pay for hookups.. |
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      Location: Northern CA | WOW! I wish I could find a place were stalls were only $60 for a weekend! The majority of the shows I go to (reined cowhorse, not barrels) stalls are $100+ for weekend events and $200+ for week long events. I feel that many producers are upping the stall fees to cover the facility rental... if that means more of the entry fees goes into the pot, it benefits the contestant, if it means they are still taking that share out of the entires, we are getting jyped. I absolutley hate paying more for stalls than I pay in entries! I also hate paying more for a stall that I pay for a dang hotel room. |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | 3canstorun - 2019-02-27 4:57 PM
CJE - 2019-02-28 4:08 PM
Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe...
Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show)
Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night.....
stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls)
But the stalls are only $45 for two nights at Perry for a cutting..............................
You can do the math........the stalls are doubled at some shows........... |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Also never a tie out fee for the day either in Perry at a cutting. |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Gator Bug - 2019-02-28 5:12 PM
3canstorun - 2019-02-28 3:57 PM
CJE - 2019-02-28 4:08 PM
Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe...
Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show)
Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night.....
stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls)
But the stalls are only $45 for two nights at Perry for a cutting..............................
I would think that if cutting was less, they are making it up in an entry fee or somewhere else.
It is like taxes, you pay it somewhere.
Cutting is more expensive for their entry fees. But the payout is greater too. But the NBHA also says the facility sets their stall rates. That isn’t true in my opinion. |
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| perry charge a fee for wekend if omeone on here is a member of te saddle club that runs the 3 day weekend i want to say abiyt 50.00 for weekend personally60 per stall for weekend if yiu have a generator nc |
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| What bothers me is when stalls and hookup charges are the same or more than your entry fees! The price of stalls will determine the number of horses I take.. I usually try to run my generator if at all possible just to save on that cost, the gas to fill it is usually cheaper than the hookup cost in most cases. |
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| JR_Horses - 2019-03-01 8:36 AM
What bothers me is when stalls and hookup charges are the same or more than your entry fees!
The price of stalls will determine the number of horses I take.. I usually try to run my generator if at all possible just to save on that cost, the gas to fill it is usually cheaper than the hookup cost in most cases.
I agree 100% with this!!!! If I could enter another horse for what stalls and hookups cost, I probably won't enter that race. Or see about putting up my panels and running the generator. |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | 3canstorun - 2019-02-27 8:15 PM
Gator Bug - 2019-02-28 5:12 PM
3canstorun - 2019-02-28 3:57 PM
CJE - 2019-02-28 4:08 PM
Perry Ga charges $30.00 30amp; $45.00 50amp, per night.....and then depending on the show...add $5.00 to each.....I am guessing that goes to the show producer........maybe...
Then depending on the producer stalls can range from $100.00 (NoBulls Finals), (NBHA Triple Crown), to $140.00 (NBHA World Show)
Jacksonville Equestrian Center RV hookups $40.00 per night.....
stalls $70 (NBHA) $90 (NoBulls)
But the stalls are only $45 for two nights at Perry for a cutting..............................
I would think that if cutting was less, they are making it up in an entry fee or somewhere else.
It is like taxes, you pay it somewhere.
Cutting is more expensive for their entry fees. But the payout is greater too. But the NBHA also says the facility sets their stall rates. That isn’t true in my opinion.
Perry stall rate is $50.00..what we have seen when "we" host the Georgia Federation Show....then the producer adds what they want..... |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | vjls - 2019-02-27 8:32 PM
perry charge a fee for wekend if omeone on here is a member of te saddle club that runs the 3 day weekend i want to say abiyt 50.00 for weekend
personally60 per stall for weekend if yiu have a generator nc
I believe that is correct and then host show charges $56.00 to the constantants. |
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    Location: East Texas | threecanman - 2019-02-28 2:23 PM
CrossDRanch - 2019-02-28 3:14 PM
All of the above are high to me.
What would you consider reasonable then?
$60 or $70 covers all 3 days of the weekend would be fine. $60+ per night is too high. Also, events that charge a flat fee wether you stay 1 night or a week are a pain. Had one event this past year where stalls/ and RV would have cost us $270 for 8hrs..... We ran the generator and horse stayed in the trailer. Won the event and got a $750 check. Throw in entry fees, office fees, etc. Hard to justify paying that much for stalls. I know stalls and rv are like drinks at a restaurants....easy way to make some $$$. |
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     Location: Hernando, Ms | We pay 25.00 a night at Lucky Dog shows. So I pay 50.00 for a 3 days show. They have the best run shows!!!  |
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| $50-$60 is the going rate around us for Friday-Sunday. I don’t like it, but we aren’t allowed to tie out most places unless the stalls sell out and that only happens 1 or 2 shows a year. I have started to run my generator more because I don’t have to park on top of someone in a campground and I can leave my horses tied out all day instead of cooped up in a stinky barn with low air flow if the weather is fit. I will buy a hookup at a handful of places where they are more setup for horses (though camping in top of your neighbors period sucks) if it’s July and going to be 100* so I can run the AC full blast without worrying about overheating the gen. I think camping runs like $25/night most places. |
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    Location: Dubach, LA | Don’t accept “going rate” when one producer decides. Don’t go. Check the facility rates for other events. I guarantee you that the ropers coming in the following weekend are not paying the same rate. Quit throwing your money around and away. Support the reasonable producers. |
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | way to high, many will come but haul off to an auction house for $10 bucks a night and use a generator and have piece an quiet and no trolls to steal saddle or horses and like a single person like me I wont go even if my horse can out clock most of those that show up. you actually lose a ton of competitors to the big show,but I guess you can only run so many in a day. |
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| I live in Kentucky. I run in the surrounding states.....mainly Indiana, Ohio, & Tennessee. I pay between $45 - $60 for 3 days & 2 nights for my stalls & usually $50 - $60 for my hook ups depending on where I go. The bigger the show the more I expect to pay. |
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