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| As long as we’re dreaming! If you could afford an embryo who would you breed Sister to? So many possibilities! Hmm Fist Moonflash? Firewaterontherocks? It’ll be fun to follow her babies when they hit the ground! |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Bucksinbeauty18 - 2019-03-19 10:42 PM
Do you think she will ever sell eggs from the mare? If so how much would her eggs sell for? What an amazing team. Just one of my random late night thoughts. How cool to own a daughter or son..
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Location: Hiding from Reality | I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American? |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Is it breeding or training for a lot of her success. Doesn't mean her offspring are a going to be the same. |
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| BS Hauler - 2019-03-21 10:49 AM
Is it breeding or training for a lot of her success. Doesn't mean her offspring are a going to be the same.
I agree with this. I am sure people will pay high dollar for offspring. It’s not different then humans, my brother and I are completely opposite in almost every way (same parents and same up bringing). |
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| Any time you breed any horse it is a gamble. But in order to take that gamble you have to grab the chance when you can. Doesn't matter if its Hailie's Sister or a Frenchman's guy progency, all a gamble. It's all preference on if you like to have a horse bred and see your own results or not. |
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Yep, Look at Scampers Clone... NOT a scamper thats for sure.
Yep, but then look at all the successful MCM offspring. No foal anywhere, has a guaranteed success story when it is born. Someone out there with deep pockets is willing to take that risk I am sure. Unfortunately for me, I am not the one with deep pockets LOL.
I have a mare that is a hot head. . . she has 2 full siblings and 1 maternal sibling, and all 3 of those are cool as a cucumber. Just like people, everyone is their own individual. |
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Location: Northeast SD | I've been told to price the embryos at 20% of the net worth or winnings. Either way they go about it 20% of either of those would be an insanely priced embryo. They could easily get more than 20k for one. There are people in this game with deep pocketbooks that understand breeding and genetics. |
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They better have deep pockets because there are always duds, no matter how good the mare is. FSP, MCM, etc have all had them.
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Location: Illinois | hereiam - 2019-03-21 10:33 AM
I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American?
Hailey owns that baby as well. I think there will be people who will pay a good chunk of money for an embryo. I could easily see some people gambling $20K on one. They're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I am sure at some point they will be getting a baby or several out of her for themselves. They have her, would be silly to not at least try and see what they get. Especially with how much they like her. If I had $20K to blow on an embryo I'd probably take a chance. She might be a freak like Secretariat and have babies that are all complete duds, or she may produce some amazing superstars. The way we've bred these horses, the one's at the top of the industry 10 years ago probably wouldn't be a ble to compete with a lot of today's horses. These faster horses got bred and the one's that used to be top dogs, like Stingray, MCM, etc wouldn't be able to hang with a lot of these horses today. Stingray couldn't hang with them the last time she was at the NFR and she was so solid there for a long time and made great runs that just didn't clock. Louie has a hard time keeping up with them, his consistency is what keeps him going and I don't think Lisa would have made it last year if she hadn't had Rosa helping out. And even if Sister's offspring didn't make superstar pro rodeo horses, chances are decent you can still get a 1-2D jackpot horse out of it. And if you sell one because you don't think its gonna make it, there's someone out there who will pay $$ for it. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-21 3:16 PM
hereiam - 2019-03-21 10:33 AM
I would bet this is in the works. Even if they do not raise one out of her of their own they could get a ridiculous amount of money selling them. Who owns the full sibling born the day of the American?
Hailey owns that baby as well. I think there will be people who will pay a good chunk of money for an embryo. I could easily see some people gambling $20K on one. They're only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. I am sure at some point they will be getting a baby or several out of her for themselves. They have her, would be silly to not at least try and see what they get. Especially with how much they like her. If I had $20K to blow on an embryo I'd probably take a chance. She might be a freak like Secretariat and have babies that are all complete duds, or she may produce some amazing superstars. The way we've bred these horses, the one's at the top of the industry 10 years ago probably wouldn't be a ble to compete with a lot of today's horses. These faster horses got bred and the one's that used to be top dogs, like Stingray, MCM, etc wouldn't be able to hang with a lot of these horses today. Stingray couldn't hang with them the last time she was at the NFR and she was so solid there for a long time and made great runs that just didn't clock. Louie has a hard time keeping up with them, his consistency is what keeps him going and I don't think Lisa would have made it last year if she hadn't had Rosa helping out. And even if Sister's offspring didn't make superstar pro rodeo horses, chances are decent you can still get a 1-2D jackpot horse out of it. And if you sell one because you don't think its gonna make it, there's someone out there who will pay $$ for it.
I definietely agree that i think someone would be willing to buy am Embryo. Look at a lot of those mares like RC Back in Black, MCM, Firewater Fiesta were all living at Royal Vists flushing them for resale (some to keep I imagine too). However, I disagree on your statements about Louie and Stingray. I think age is a lot more of a factor than not being able to compete based on breeding program... If you look at past times on them (granted I know the pattern changes to come degree) but both have been easily sub 14s in the T&M. Like any horse, they do slow down with age. Like we all do. I'd still give anything for a horse at that caliber (now or then). |
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Location: Texas | Lord have mercy, any mare can produce a dud. But dang, if you wanted to play the odds game, what a mare to take that gamble on. She has every reason to reproduce, way more accolades than many other people can say about their own mares. Word on the street is no, no eggs harvested for resale, but I'm not really in the know. |
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| SKM - 2019-03-21 4:06 PM Stingray and Louie have how many miles on them? They have both been hauled hard and long. Guess what? Horses age and slow down. The great horses of yesterday could still clock with the greats of today. Some people might need to brush up on their pedigree knowledge and what horses are broodmare sires. I’d be very surprised if she couldn’t produce. Especially given her conformation, ability and pedigree. The weakest link in her pedigree is Moon Lark...if you can call that weak. I would say Lazbuddie is the weakest, but I get what you are saying. Also look at the common denominator in DM Sissy Hayday and WD Toole Ta Fame, Troy Crumrine's horse.
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Location: Illinois | Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-21 4:57 PM
Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to.
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SKM - 2019-03-21 4:06 PM
Stingray and Louie have how many miles on them? They have both been hauled hard and long. Guess what? Horses age and slow down. The great horses of yesterday could still clock with the greats of today.
Some people might need to brush up on their pedigree knowledge and what horses are broodmare sires. I’d be very surprised if she couldn’t produce. Especially given her conformation, ability and pedigree. The weakest link in her pedigree is Moon Lark...if you can call that weak.
I would say Lazbuddie is the weakest, but I get what you are saying. Also look at the common denominator in DM Sissy Hayday and WD Toole Ta Fame, Troy Crumrine's horse.
Lasbuddie was out of a great producing mare that was a pretty good racehorse herself. Moon Lark was one of those few horses that shouldn’t have been as successful as he was. His dam was nothing and Lanolark never produced much of anything. |
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Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to.
1) The pattern at the NFR isn’t the same as it use to be. 2) The ground has vastly improved over the past few years. 3) You are comparing apples to oranges. Ground implements have improved. Vet practices have improved. Horse trailers have improved with how smooth they now ride thanks to things like WERM flooring and air ride hitches. Horses like Bozo and Scamper never had PEMF, aquatreads, PHT, BOT, etc. |
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| SKM - 2019-03-21 6:02 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-21 3:57 PM
Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to.
1) The pattern at the NFR isn’t the same as it use to be.
2) The ground has vastly improved over the past few years.
3) You are comparing apples to oranges. Ground implements have improved. Vet practices have improved. Horse trailers have improved with how smooth they now ride thanks to things like WERM flooring and air ride hitches. Horses like Bozo and Scamper never had PEMF, aquatreads, PHT, BOT, etc.
I also think I remember their times differnetly. I do agree that way in the day sub 14s was more uncommon but I remmeber seeing consistent 7s from Louie and Stingray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awbYAJmW8sA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vKNNWNl268 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmb7tSNqr3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9WlmtWCGRk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rXtyO0lQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_YJG1NlgJM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv5EpOfVJp0 Just from a quick youtube search... |
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Location: Heart of Texas | my vote would be First Moonflash. I have one of his offspring and I think it would make a nice cross. Especially from how Haliey has described Sister's personality and demeanor. But they're smart women, i'm sure her and her mom have it all ironed out and we're all gunna be amazed in the future. |
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-21 5:57 PM
Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to.
Does anyone agree that our training techniques have also been a HUGE factor in how fast our horses are running compared to years ago? Yes, breeding is a factor but you can have the best bred horse and not have them trained right and make them a dud. There are tons of factors on a pattern time. Be open minded!!! |
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Location: NE TX | I'mlost - 2019-03-21 7:04 AM
As long as we’re dreaming! If you could afford an embryo who would you breed Sister to? So many possibilities! Hmm Fist Moonflash? Firewaterontherocks? It’ll be fun to follow her babies when they hit the ground!
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Location: Arizona | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-22 3:57 PM Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to. I've had too much going on the last few years to do my crazy, obsessive NFR number crunching, but as of 2014 Stingray's best time at the Thomas & Mack was 13.49, and Louie's was 13.62. Those times are still plenty fast enough to win and place at the NFR. Look at the 2018 results. Those numbers would have been in the money every round. Stingray made her first NFR appearance in what? 2008? And I think Louie made his in 2009? That's a whole lot of road and arena miles under their feet. They're older now, and they all slow down eventually. Just because they weren't clocking on top of their younger competition during their last couple NFR appearances doesn't mean they wouldn't have still been kicking butt in their prime - because the numbers prove otherwise. For anyone whose into that sort of thing, here's a link to some of my aforementioned crazy, obsessive stats. Geez, I can't believe we're pushing another five years since I wrote that! Guess I need to work on another review before December, lol. 2010-2014 NFR Barrel Racing Review Part 2 Edited to add: This graphic from Part 1 of the review series I linked above shows the average winning times from Louie and Stingray's heyday. 
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Location: Arkansas | Whinny19 - 2019-03-24 4:24 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-03-22 3:57 PM
Even when they were younger they still weren't clocking what todays horses are consistently. At one point if you were in the 13s at all you were pretty much guaranteed a check. And some of those years the ground was pretty good as well. Louie wasn't clocking low 13s when he was younger, a high 13 is a sweet run for him. Stingray was in the low 13's by .01 seconds and around the barrels with not much room to spare. And some of these newer horses are clocking low 13s with some all over the place runs. I do think horses have gotten faster these days, I think the horses 10 years ago are faster than the ones 20 years ago. We've bred them with more and more run, they're bound to get faster. You go to local jackpots and there's a lot of younger horses blowing the doors off of arena records, a lot more often than they used to.
I've had too much going on the last few years to do my crazy, obsessive NFR number crunching, but as of 2014 Stingray's best time at the Thomas & Mack was 13.49, and Louie's was 13.62. Those times are still plenty fast enough to win and place at the NFR. Look at the 2018 results. Those numbers would have been in the money every round.
Stingray made her first NFR appearance in what? 2008? And I think Louie made his in 2009? That's a whole lot of road and arena miles under their feet. They're older now, and they all slow down eventually. Just because they weren't clocking on top of their younger competition during their last couple NFR appearances doesn't mean they wouldn't have still been kicking butt in their prime - because the numbers prove otherwise.
For anyone whose into that sort of thing, here's a link to some of my aforementioned crazy, obsessive stats. Geez, I can't believe we're pushing another five years since I wrote that! Guess I need to work on another review before December, lol.
2010-2014 NFR Barrel Racing Review Part 2
Edited to add: This graphic from Part 1 of the review series I linked above shows the average winning times from Louie and Stingray's heyday.
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Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have.
Master Hand was a decent racehorse - nothing outstanding. He is sired by Bold Ruler, who is a very famous TB. He had a great racing career, graded stakes wins, placed in the ky derby, etc. But he's mainly known as a sire, he was the sire of secretariat, grand sire of seattle slew, and had plenty of crops of other graded stakes winners. Also in the lines of today's greats - california chrome, justify and american pharoah...to name a few. Master Hands's bottom side also has a triple crown winner (omaha) 3 gens back, and a derby placer 2 back. Master Hand was born in 66 though...so all of these are pretty old school lines =p |
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Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have.
Master Hand daughters crossed very well bred to Dash For Perks. Off the top of my head that's really the only stand out cross I can think of on Master Hand. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2019-03-28 1:12 PM
scwebster - 2019-03-22 8:09 AM
Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have.
Master Hand daughters crossed very well bred to Dash For Perks. Off the top of my head that's really the only stand out cross I can think of on Master Hand.
Some of the stand out horses that I can think of are, MR MASTER BUG and pocket coin (the materal grandsire of Sissys Little Coin). |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2019-03-28 1:12 PM scwebster - 2019-03-22 8:09 AM Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have. Master Hand daughters crossed very well bred to Dash For Perks. Off the top of my head that's really the only stand out cross I can think of on Master Hand. Very cool!! This colt is out of a DFP Daughter. Pedigree: https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=FAST+FRIJOLES&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=
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Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have.
Master Hand was a decent racehorse - nothing outstanding. He is sired by Bold Ruler, who is a very famous TB. He had a great racing career, graded stakes wins, placed in the ky derby, etc. But he's mainly known as a sire, he was the sire of secretariat, grand sire of seattle slew, and had plenty of crops of other graded stakes winners. Also in the lines of today's greats - california chrome, justify and american pharoah...to name a few.
Master Hands's bottom side also has a triple crown winner (omaha) 3 gens back, and a derby placer 2 back.
Master Hand was born in 66 though...so all of these are pretty old school lines =p
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2019-03-28 11:48 AM
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scwebster - 2019-03-22 8:09 AM
Sister goes back to the TB Masterhand. Anyone know a great deal about him? He's on the papers of a two year old we have.
Master Hand daughters crossed very well bred to Dash For Perks. Off the top of my head that's really the only stand out cross I can think of on Master Hand.
Some of the stand out horses that I can think of are, MR MASTER BUG and pocket coin (the materal grandsire of Sissys Little Coin).
Mr Master Bug was also a great cross on Dash For Perks daughters. You'd think I'd remember Pocket Coin..I have the ful sister to Sissys Little Coin  |
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Location: Kansas | Chandler's Mom - 2019-03-29 8:54 PM
Totally off thread, but sending Hailey and Jess best wishes on their engagement
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-03-29 8:54 PM
Totally off thread, but sending Hailey and Jess best wishes on their engagement
World Champion Bull Rider (cute as a button) World Champion Barrel Racer (also cute as a button). I'm jealous but just to be their age again would suffice. I believe she's a little older than he is. You go girl.
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Frodo - 2019-04-02 2:17 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2019-03-29 8:54 PM
Totally off thread, but sending Hailey and Jess best wishes on their engagement
World Champion Bull Rider (cute as a button) World Champion Barrel Racer (also cute as a button). I'm jealous but just to be their age again would suffice. I believe she's a little older than he is. You go girl.
The engagement is probably keeping his spirits up since he's still out with a broken collarbone. . .
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-04-02 8:00 PM
Frodo - 2019-04-02 2:17 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2019-03-29 8:54 PM
Totally off thread, but sending Hailey and Jess best wishes on their engagement
World Champion Bull Rider (cute as a button) World Champion Barrel Racer (also cute as a button). I'm jealous but just to be their age again would suffice. I believe she's a little older than he is. You go girl.
The engagement is probably keeping his spirits up since he's still out with a broken collarbone. . .
.........gave him some time off to spend with her though.
He got off to such a great start in the PBR this year. The broken collarbone really set him back.
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