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| With experience or knowledge of child support? This actually isnt about my ex (shockingly) but my husbands ex. It's turned into such a mess. Hes met his obligations of paying per their decree. He got the paperwork from the court listing all his payments made on time and completed. The kid graduated HS in May. He was under obligation to pay until she graduated HS.. done deal. He signed off on it and took it to her to sign and shes refusing to sign it.. said she wont sign it until he pays off the kids balance at school she owes the AG department almost $400 for stuff throughout the year. We knew nothing about any of that debt being racked up. Until now. He is under absolutely no obligation to pay that and if I'm right, she has absolutely no ground to stand on saying she wont sign that paper until he pays that. He said we would pay it but shes still refusing to sign. Shes still receiving weekly child support payments as of now. Wont take his calls either. So childish if you ask me. Shes been remarried for quite some time and the kid is 18, wanting to move out now. I'm furious shes doing this to him, hes been nothing but courteous to her and civil, paid for anything they asked help paying for, done everything by the book... and now shes pulling this garbage. I'm trying to stay out of this and let him handle it because hes way nicer than I am. I just hate seeing him getting taken advantage of! He said hes going to have her subpoenaed now because shes got the paperwork and wont sign and return it to him. Sorry this is so off topic but I'm just beside myself over this and need a little advice! Why cant people just be cool?! |
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   Location: Montgomery TX | If the payments were not made thru the state, y'all are probably going to have to take her to court or pay the debt depending on how much money you want to spend. If she agrees to sign it once the debt is paid, have it notarized in writing before paying the debt. Don't take her word for it. If they were made thru the state, then you/he needs to be in touch with the Attorney General's office, they will have proof of payments made. That is probably going to be your best bet. DO NOT CALL THEM!!!! Make an appointment and show up with ALL of the paperwork you have showing proof of payment. Tell them EXACTLY what is going on. It took almost a year for us to get my husband's stuff straightened out because he was making payments to her and not thru the AG office. It was a nightmare, trying to get her to sign the affidavit of payment. Even though we had 2 years worth of canceled checks labeled child support payment front and back showing she cashed them. Now that we got it set up to pay thru the AG office, we don't have to deal with her about - they do. My husband is self employed which is why it is not paid thru his employer. We had to set up electronic payments thru the website. Best of luck to you and I hope it all works out peacefully!
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| bten - 2019-06-13 12:54 PM
If the payments were not made thru the state, y'all are probably going to have to take her to court or pay the debt depending on how much money you want to spend. If she agrees to sign it once the debt is paid, have it notarized in writing before paying the debt. Don't take her word for it. If they were made thru the state, then you/he needs to be in touch with the Attorney General's office, they will have proof of payments made. That is probably going to be your best bet. DO NOT CALL THEM!!!! Make an appointment and show up with ALL of the paperwork you have showing proof of payment. Tell them EXACTLY what is going on. It took almost a year for us to get my husband's stuff straightened out because he was making payments to her and not thru the AG office. It was a nightmare, trying to get her to sign the affidavit of payment. Even though we had 2 years worth of canceled checks labeled child support payment front and back showing she cashed them.
Now that we got it set up to pay thru the AG office, we don't have to deal with her about - they do. My husband is self employed which is why it is not paid thru his employer. We had to set up electronic payments thru the website.
Best of luck to you and I hope it all works out peacefully!
It all went thru the child support division, thankfully! He got the statement from the court saying hes made all his payments on time and as ordered. Shes just being a turd about it. Hes been calling her, leaving voicemail and shes ignoring him. So he text her, she text back, shes not going to be home tomorrow and shes at work so she cant talk to him. She closed her text out with "I'll get to it sometime" ... wow... honestly shes probably one of the most hateful women I've ever met in my life. But that's beside the point. Shes not abiding by the law and the decree it's not up to her when the payments stop, and its certainly not in her right to tell him he needs to pay a balance at the school before she will sign the papers! Hes told her now twice hes paying the balance which I think is very generous of him as he is under no obligation to do so and we were never made aware of her owing anything during the entire school year. Thank you for the response! |
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   Location: Montgomery TX | I've never had an obligation end, so I don't know what the procedure is once it is over. I would think, (obviously I am wrong) that the state would send notices saying the obligation is met and no more payments would be made. I don't understand why she has to sign off on it. I can understand the court needing to say it is met satisfactorily, but I don't understand why she has to approve it. |
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| bten - 2019-06-13 1:48 PM
I've never had an obligation end, so I don't know what the procedure is once it is over. I would think, (obviously I am wrong) that the state would send notices saying the obligation is met and no more payments would be made. I don't understand why she has to sign off on it. I can understand the court needing to say it is met satisfactorily, but I don't understand why she has to approve it.
I dont know why either. She has no recourse. Hes paid each week on time, every time. He really just needs to go in and speak to the child support division and ask I guess. He told her hes going to the court offices tomorrow to speak with an attorney because it really doesnt make sense, she doesnt have to agree with it. It's written out in their decree payments would end when the child graduated high school. Shes not attending college, by her own choice and wants to move out of her mothers house and in with us while she is finding a job. |
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   Location: Montgomery TX | want2chase3 - 2019-06-13 1:58 PM bten - 2019-06-13 1:48 PM I've never had an obligation end, so I don't know what the procedure is once it is over. I would think, (obviously I am wrong) that the state would send notices saying the obligation is met and no more payments would be made. I don't understand why she has to sign off on it. I can understand the court needing to say it is met satisfactorily, but I don't understand why she has to approve it. I dont know why either. She has no recourse. Hes paid each week on time, every time. He really just needs to go in and speak to the child support division and ask I guess. He told her hes going to the court offices tomorrow to speak with an attorney because it really doesnt make sense, she doesnt have to agree with it. It's written out in their decree payments would end when the child graduated high school. Shes not attending college, by her own choice and wants to move out of her mothers house and in with us while she is finding a job. If it were me - I would take a copy of her diploma and school records to the child support office and see what they can do. They have Case workers and attorneys that can advise you. When I had issues, the child support office always assigned me an assistant attorney general to speak on my behalf when we went in front of the judge. I never paid for an attorney. That's just me - I am in no way saying this is the right or wrong thing to do. I know the child support office can stop payment at the drop of a hat for whatever reason they deem justified. My husband's case was a whole different bag of snakes - he has an attorney on retainer - but when i was a poor single mom, that is what I did. Is it child support court? To the best of my knowledge, that is scheduled thru the attorney general office/ local child support office? Or is it regular family court?
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | never been in this situation, but just wanted to send you some support, this has got to really suc*!!!  |
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      Location: Arkansas | Sean has 2 girls, and when they each graduated, he contacted his case worker. They verified school records (I'm guessing) and the payments were stopped. (This was in UT, so I'm not sure how different each state's procedure is.) Sean didn't sign anything, and I don't think ex did either. . . She would NOT have done anything voluntarily to be decent or "right". Sorry, I promised myself I wouldn't go there! I don't understand why your hubby is still having to pay. . . Good luck cause c/s is a pain in the rear. |
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| Hes going to the court office tomorrow when he gets in. His last text to her after trying all week to get the papers back signed, being as nice as possible, was that if he didnt have the papers back by today he was going to get an attorney. She never answered and we have no papers. So, that's that! Why on earth she has to be so hateful and difficult is beyond me. Shes going to end up owing him money back this way, which isnt what we wanted at all! I get child support from my ex and when it comes time for it to end I'd never do this to him, even tho how wrong he did me. Enough is enough, it's over lady! |
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      Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2019-06-13 10:46 PM
Hes going to the court office tomorrow when he gets in. His last text to her after trying all week to get the papers back signed, being as nice as possible, was that if he didnt have the papers back by today he was going to get an attorney. She never answered and we have no papers. So, that's that! Why on earth she has to be so hateful and difficult is beyond me. Shes going to end up owing him money back this way, which isnt what we wanted at all! I get child support from my ex and when it comes time for it to end I'd never do this to him, even tho how wrong he did me. Enough is enough, it's over lady!
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| Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-14 2:07 AM
want2chase3 - 2019-06-13 10:46 PM
Hes going to the court office tomorrow when he gets in. His last text to her after trying all week to get the papers back signed, being as nice as possible, was that if he didnt have the papers back by today he was going to get an attorney. She never answered and we have no papers. So, that's that! Why on earth she has to be so hateful and difficult is beyond me. Shes going to end up owing him money back this way, which isnt what we wanted at all! I get child support from my ex and when it comes time for it to end I'd never do this to him, even tho how wrong he did me. Enough is enough, it's over lady!
Oh the stories I bet a lot of us could share. . . Make folks' hair stand on end!
I could imagine. This is the same person who dropped an injured emaciated horse off at our house, we took care of him for several months, he was pretty badly injured, with a leg that we didnt know if it could be fixed or not. We asked for his papers or a signed letter giving us ownership and we would take him on to rehab as best we could, not to resell but to see if we could get him sound enough for the kid to ride lightly... Again, she refused to sign him over to us and then refused to come get him picked up for a while because she had no where to keep him. Clearly this person has an issue with pens and signing her name! We asked again for just a bill of sale, no papers evenntho she had them. She had some person come get the poor thing and haul it off to a sale ... disgusting. |
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      Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 8:34 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-14 2:07 AM
want2chase3 - 2019-06-13 10:46 PM
Hes going to the court office tomorrow when he gets in. His last text to her after trying all week to get the papers back signed, being as nice as possible, was that if he didnt have the papers back by today he was going to get an attorney. She never answered and we have no papers. So, that's that! Why on earth she has to be so hateful and difficult is beyond me. Shes going to end up owing him money back this way, which isnt what we wanted at all! I get child support from my ex and when it comes time for it to end I'd never do this to him, even tho how wrong he did me. Enough is enough, it's over lady!
Oh the stories I bet a lot of us could share. . . Make folks' hair stand on end!
I could imagine. This is the same person who dropped an injured emaciated horse off at our house, we took care of him for several months, he was pretty badly injured, with a leg that we didnt know if it could be fixed or not. We asked for his papers or a signed letter giving us ownership and we would take him on to rehab as best we could, not to resell but to see if we could get him sound enough for the kid to ride lightly... Again, she refused to sign him over to us and then refused to come get him picked up for a while because she had no where to keep him. Clearly this person has an issue with pens and signing her name! We asked again for just a bill of sale, no papers evenntho she had them. She had some person come get the poor thing and haul it off to a sale ... disgusting.
I remember that. . . Some people shouldn't have kids or animals. |
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| So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree. |
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     Location: North MS | Mississippi requires a court order to stop payments unless: child is emancipated, joins military, married, or gets arrested. Otherwise you pay until they are 21. Been there, done that and never received a single piece of paper saying payment had ended or obligations were met. We just paid the final month she turned 21 and ended our autopay option on our banking bill pay site. |
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| bluerose2001 - 2019-06-15 1:02 AM Mississippi requires a court order to stop payments unless: child is emancipated, joins military, married, or gets arrested. Otherwise you pay until they are 21. Been there, done that and never received a single piece of paper saying payment had ended or obligations were met. We just paid the final month she turned 21 and ended our autopay option on our banking bill pay site. His divorce decree states child support is to end when the child turns 18 or graduates high school , whichever comes later. She turned 18 in December and graduated 2nd week of May.
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 10:48 PM
So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree.
Make sure that the attorney adds that she is to pay attorney fees, court costs AND back child support paid from the date of graduation. He may want to run that little bit of information past her (all that she would owe) and see if she would then be willing to sign that darn paper. |
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| NJJ - 2019-06-15 9:29 AM
want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 10:48 PM
So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree.
Make sure that the attorney adds that she is to pay attorney fees, court costs AND back child support paid from the date of graduation. He may want to run that little bit of information past her (all that she would owe) and see if she would then be willing to sign that darn paper.
Yes! Shes threatened him she has her attorney on retainer... whatever that's supposed do. Why on earth she thinks shes still entitled to that money is beyond me. Its clear as day in their papers, its cut and dry. I've been praying for just an easy peaceful resolution because I'm struggling keeping my Jesus together with this situation! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 10:48 PM
So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree.
This just dont make any sence, if the child support is to stop when she turned 18 and she turned 18 what is the problem? Is the child really getting the support money or is her mother useing it for herself and wants it to keep coming, makes you wonder!!! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I didnt read all on here, but just wanted to ask you, did you guys ever call the Texas Attorney General over all this mess? |
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| We went to the actual justice center that handles the child support division and 3 different people told him the same thing :-/ he needs to print out a petition and sign it and she has to sign it and then appear in court |
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      Location: Arkansas | want2chase3 - 2019-06-15 7:30 AM
bluerose2001 - 2019-06-15 1:02 AM
Mississippi requires a court order to stop payments unless: child is emancipated, joins military, married, or gets arrested. Otherwise you pay until they are 21. Been there, done that and never received a single piece of paper saying payment had ended or obligations were met. We just paid the final month she turned 21 and ended our autopay option on our banking bill pay site.
His divorce decree states child support is to end when the child turns 18 or graduates high school , whichever comes later. She turned 18 in December and graduated 2nd week of May.
Sounds exactly like Sean's situation. His oldest daughter dropped out of school, and his ex and the daughter made SURE not to let anyone know about that. He just happened to see something on FB where she was bragging about not having to go to school. . . Never could get anything done and he had to pay until she turned 18. |
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      Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-15 10:16 AM
want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 10:48 PM
So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree.
This just dont make any sence, if the child support is to stop when she turned 18 and she turned 18 what is the problem? Is the child really getting the support money or is her mother useing it for herself and wants it to keep coming, makes you wonder!!!
Oh, oh I know the answer!!!!!! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-15 1:02 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-15 10:16 AM
want2chase3 - 2019-06-14 10:48 PM
So... went to the court house today and was told the laws have recently changed regarding child support. He will indeed have to go to court to stop payments. She will have to sign off on a paper as well. If shes refusing, we will have to pay $75 to have her served by a constable and it will end up having to be settled in court. Unbelievable. He spoke to an attorney today to see how much it would be to have them file for him... $2500 . I never would have thought it would be this difficult for him to exercise his rights by the decree.
This just dont make any sence, if the child support is to stop when she turned 18 and she turned 18 what is the problem? Is the child really getting the support money or is her mother useing it for herself and wants it to keep coming, makes you wonder!!!
Oh, oh I know the answer!!!!!!
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