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      Location: Arkansas | I read today where some political big wig said "oh, what Trump has done is so much worse than what Clinton did." Really????? |
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        Location: Kansas | Again the Dems have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars trying to remove the President because he doesn't fit their socialist, big government raise-your-taxes agenda. They falsely determined Russia helped Trump win the 2016 election and are now pre-determining that if/when he wins the 2020 election it will be for the same reason. A desperate, hateful bunch of Congressional Democrats are the engineers of this farce and sadly we have to pay their salaries. The impeachment process goes next to the Senate where Dems will run right in a brick wall. 
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        Location: Ky | Let me get this straight, the GOP thinks there's nothing wrong with the president bribing a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent? The same GOP that impeached Clinton for lying about sex? No wonder Lindsey Graham is your poster child! Flip-flop, flip-flop!! |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I think it is our current President's obligation to investigate an admission of extortion by a then VP that could be clear evidence of corruption in a country receiving aid money. |
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    Location: never in the right place | Just my 2 cents. 1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country. 2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him. All these hearing are ridicules and get no where |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I came across something today that puts this all in perspective. Did you know that EVERY SINGLE republican president since Eisenhower has had the dems try to impeach them? Be reassured this is all BS. The dems have lost their ever loving minds. Liars every one. Democrats Tried to Impeach Every Elected GOP President Since EisenhowerU.S. President Donald Trump talks to reporters before boarding Marine One and departing the White House November 08, 2019 in Washington, D.C. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images) No matter how well an elected Republican president performs in office, ever since the Dwight D. Eisenhower administration, Democrats have demanded that the election results be reversed. Two weeks before the 2016 election, Hillary Clinton tweeted, “Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of this election. By doing that, he’s threatening our democracy.” As a Democrat she should know something about not respecting election results. Since Jan. 20, 1961, when Eisenhower left office, Democrats have introduced impeachment articles against every single elected Republican president. Eisenhower was succeeded in office by John F. Kennedy. After his assassination 33 months later, Lyndon B. Johnson was sworn in as president and re-elected in 1964. Neither Kennedy nor Johnson was subject to impeachment inquiries. Richard M. Nixon entered the White House on Jan. 20, 1969, and was re-elected in 1972. In October 1973, the House Judiciary Committee began an impeachment inquiry stemming from the Watergate scandal. Although he had no personal knowledge or role in the events that led to the scandal, he allegedly took steps to cover up the details. After nearly nine months of investigation and hearings, Nixon resigned from office on August 9, 1974. He was succeeded by Gerald R. Ford. Although Ford was never the subject of an impeachment investigation, he was neither elected to the presidency nor even the vice presidency. Ronald Reagan was the next elected Republican president. In March 1987, halfway through Reagan’s second term, Rep. Henry Gonzales, D-Texas, introduced articles of impeachment based on the Iran-Contra scandal. The effort failed and Reagan’s vice president, George H. W. Bush, was next elected president. On January 16, 1991, halfway through his term, Rep. Henry Gonzales (yes, the same one) introduced impeachment articles against Bush for initiating Operation Desert Storm. Its purpose was to drive Iraqi forces out of Kuwait, and it lasted slightly more than six months. The impeachment articles were submitted to the House Judiciary Committee, where they were struck down. Gonzales made another stab at it later and that one also failed. Bush’s son, George W. Bush, often referred to as Bush-43, faced several impeachment probes, the most significant one brought by Democratic Reps. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and Robert Wexler of Florida. They jointly introduced 35 articles of impeachment six months before the end of Bush’s second term. By a 251-166 floor vote, they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee where they gathered dust. From the moment Donald Trump was elected president, the word “impeach” has been on the lips of many, if not most, Democrats, and for a laundry list of reasons. They include violation of the Emoluments Clause, collusion with Russia, obstruction of justice, and secret dealings with Ukraine. Within days of Trump’s inauguration, Mark Zaid, attorney for an alleged Trump whistleblower, tweeted, “#coup has started. First of many steps. #rebellion. #impeachment will follow ultimately. #lawyers” It didn’t take long. Less than six months later Democratic Reps. Al Green of Texas and Brad Sherman of California introduced H. Res. 438, which was tabled. It only escalated from there. So how did these beleaguered GOP heads of state do? Nixon established the Environmental Protection Agency, reintroduced relations with China, and worked to achieve “peace with honor” in Vietnam after the Johnson administration’s escalation of hostilities there. One of Reagan’s first acts was to bring home the 198 U.S. hostages taken by Iran during the Carter administration. He then cut domestic discretionary spending, cut taxes, and increased the military budget. He maintained pressure on the Soviet Union in an effort to put an end to the Cold War, which occurred shortly after he left office. Domestically, Bush-41 pushed the passage of the landmark Americans with Disabilities Act (the ADA); his successful prosecution of the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraq was his greatest foreign policy achievement. His eldest son, Bush-43, signed into law broad tax cuts, the Patriot Act, the No Child Left Behind Act, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, Medicare prescription drug benefits for seniors, and funding for the AIDS relief program. Less than three years in office, Trump has created nearly 4 million jobs and dropped unemployment to a 49-year low. He pushed for massive tax cuts, lifted nearly 3.9 million people off food stamps, and economic growth hit 4.2 percent during the last quarter. For nearly 60 years Democrats have dishonored the will of the people through attempts to overthrow the elections of GOP presidents. And it didn’t matter what they may have accomplished or by what margin they may have won (Reagan took 49 of the 50 states in his mega-landslide re-election). Though not her intention, Clinton may have said it best: Democrats refuse to "respect the results" of elections — each and every time. Michael Dorstewitz is a retired lawyer and has been a frequent contributor to BizPac Review and Liberty Unyielding. He is also a former U.S. Merchant Marine officer and an enthusiastic Second Amendment supporter, who can often be found honing his skills at the range. To read more of his reports — Click Here Now. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Chandler's Mom - 2019-12-10 4:16 PM
I read today where some political big wig said "oh, what Trump has done is so much worse than what Clinton did." Really?????
Nope. They are lying sacks of c r a p. Believe Barr and Durham. They have the facts. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing. |
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ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye. Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man. |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | First hand accounts like whatever happened in the meetings/conversations/plotting between Schiff and the supposed whistleblower? First hand accounts like Biden's threats to the Ukranians to withhold aid if they didn't fire the guy looking into his son's sweeheart deal with Burisma? First hand accounts of how Biden got his son that deal and the $$ in the first place? Those first hand accounts? |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Are we talking about first hand accounts of quid pro quo? Here you go. https://youtu.be/04Hww3oM6eU |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2019-12-11 11:42 AM
Let me get this straight, the GOP thinks there's nothing wrong with the president bribing a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent?
The same GOP that impeached Clinton for lying about sex?
No wonder Lindsey Graham is your poster child!
Flip-flop, flip-flop!!
He will be acquitted by the Senate, with my guess on the vote being about 55-45 for acquittal. All of the Republicans will vote for acquittal, along with a few Democrats who respect the Constitution. His approval ratings will go up, and he will run for re-election as planned next year. After he wins, the Democrats will dream up something new to accuse him of. Maxine Waters will go on CNN and say “We will IMPEEEECH HIM again!” The DNC and the losing candidate will blame Putin, Bernie Sanders, those deplorable people in the flyover states who vote against their interests, and possibly the Illuminati and the vast international right-wing conspiracy. The stock market will go up by two thousand points, as news comes out that the United States will not be taken over by leftists for at least four more years. The Democrats will look ahead to 2024, when they can finally run the unbeatable AOC as their candidate. In the meantime, they will investigate Trump for unpaid jaywalking tickets on Fifth Avenue in 1980. The cycle will continue all the way into the first year of Ivanka’s second term. |
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OregonBR - 2019-12-11 1:08 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye.
Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
I could shred your remark to pieces, but I can see you are already too upset, based on the fact that it's barely readable. Maybe you were trembling too much with Trump-hate and rage to type properly. Next time try using spellcheck or proofread your comments and slow down a tad. You sound like an agitated fool with TDS. |
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        Location: Ky | Bear - 2019-12-11 2:55 PM
jd&ez - 2019-12-11 11:42 AM
Let me get this straight, the GOP thinks there's nothing wrong with the president bribing a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent?
The same GOP that impeached Clinton for lying about sex?
No wonder Lindsey Graham is your poster child!
Flip-flop, flip-flop!!
He will be acquitted by the Senate, with my guess on the vote being about 55-45 for acquittal. All of the Republicans will vote for acquittal, along with a few Democrats who respect the Constitution. His approval ratings will go up, and he will run for re-election as planned next year.
After he wins, the Democrats will dream up something new to accuse him of. Maxine Waters will go on CNN and say “We will IMPEEEECH HIM again!” The DNC and the losing candidate will blame Putin, Bernie Sanders, those deplorable people in the flyover states who vote against their interests, and possibly the Illuminati and the vast international right-wing conspiracy.
The stock market will go up by two thousand points, as news comes out that the United States will not be taken over by leftists for at least four more years.
The Democrats will look ahead to 2024, when they can finally run the unbeatable AOC as their candidate. In the meantime, they will investigate Trump for unpaid jaywalking tickets on Fifth Avenue in 1980.
The cycle will continue all the way into the first year of Ivanka’s second term.
I already said he won't be convited in the senate. Doesn't matter what he did or does. The GOP is blind to the truth when it comes to Trump. I would think any patriot would be ashamed of that. But that's not the case. As for winning the election in 2020, I don't think so. Of course if the democrats nominate Bernie or Warren or someone like that then Trump wins easily. I believe Biden will be the nominee and he will beat Trump. Hillary, as unlikable as she is, got more votes than Trump. Biden will blow him out. That's why Trump is so scared of Biden. That's why he was willing to put national security at risk to did up dirt on Biden. Now I see in some other posts that they are bringing out the ole, "my guy is guilty as hell but so is yours" defense of Trump. Never understood how that's supposed to be an effective argument. I suppose if I get stopped for speeding I should tell the officer, "other people speed too". Wonder how that would play out? Of course they quote Dan Bongong. When has he ever been right on one of his big stories? The guy lies more than Trump. If that's possible. This whole thing is a show by both parties. I'm in 15 to 20 homes every week and while I do not talk religeon or politics with clients I do listen when they talk. Lately there's no talk about it. In my corner of the world which is Southern In, Western Ky and Northwest Tn it seems people are just tired of it all. |
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        Location: Ky | Bear - 2019-12-11 3:32 PM
jd&ez - 2019-12-11 1:43 PM
OregonBR - 2019-12-11 1:08 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye.
Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
I could shred your remark to pieces, but I can see you are already too upset, based on the fact that it's barely readable. Maybe you were trembling too much with Trump-hate and rage to type properly. Next time try using spellcheck or proofread your comments and slow down a tad. You sound like an agitated fool with TDS.
Have at it. I'm not upset at all. That would seem to be you that's upset. Are you using what the GOP'ers call "projection"? But you're right, I don't use spellcheck when typing on a message board. If that bothers you then it's your problem, not mine. It doesn't bother me. I understand the right wingers have to make this about anything other than Trump because his actions can't stand the light of day. Regardless of what Dan Bongong, Laura Ingrate, Rush Dumbaugh and the rest have to say, they are wrong. Now you can go back to personal attacks since that's all you have. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | La La La La Did you say something? I've learned over the last 3 years not to engage with a liberal. They will make you as crazy as they are with their TDS level 6 rants. No facts. Just projection. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2019-12-11 3:46 PM
Bear - 2019-12-11 3:32 PM
jd&ez - 2019-12-11 1:43 PM
OregonBR - 2019-12-11 1:08 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye.
Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
I could shred your remark to pieces, but I can see you are already too upset, based on the fact that it's barely readable. Maybe you were trembling too much with Trump-hate and rage to type properly. Next time try using spellcheck or proofread your comments and slow down a tad. You sound like an agitated fool with TDS.
Have at it. I'm not upset at all. That would seem to be you that's upset. Are you using what the GOP'ers call "projection"? But you're right, I don't use spellcheck when typing on a message board. If that bothers you then it's your problem, not mine. It doesn't bother me.
I understand the right wingers have to make this about anything other than Trump because his actions can't stand the light of day. Regardless of what Dan Bongong, Laura Ingrate, Rush Dumbaugh and the rest have to say, they are wrong.
Now you can go back to personal attacks since that's all you have.
Fair enough. So let's agree to dispense with throwing barbs and get down to comparing your preferred candidate, among the 20+ who have declared, and Trump. How's that for starters? I won't hold my breath, because if past experience with you is my guide, you'll slither away and not engage. I hope I'm wrong. I'll start it off. Who is your candidate of choice and why is he/she better than DJT? |
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| TrailGirl - 2019-12-11 12:02 PM I think it is our current President's obligation to investigate an admission of extortion by a then VP that could be clear evidence of corruption in a country receivi Edited by jbhoot 2019-12-11 6:13 PM
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        Location: Kansas | Rest easy my conservative friends........yesterday "with a heavy heart" Jerry Nadler informed us, as he proceeds with his impeachment charade, that the President we elected must be "ousted" before he's allowed to win still another election. Gee thanks Jerry, but we think we can make our own decisions. We made a pretty good one in 2016. You, Adam, Nancy and the rest of your smug, arrogant cohorts may go crawl back into your dens. We got this.
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     Location: The Lone Star State | If you are a Democrat you will believe what you are being "told" and there will be no changing your mind. You have been inundated with Media Bias but you wont see it that way. You will not open your eyes to the economy and how well its doing, you wont see that because of the tariffs that Trump has imposed more Countries are paying their fair share of GDP into Nato, you wont see an imperfect non politician in office exposing the corrupt members of congress on capital hill. You wont see the now exposed IG report that has actual evidence of the Surveillence of then canditate Trump and the actual (not heresay) text messages between the highest FBI agents actualy texting each other that they will "make sure" he wont get in office. The IG report has Evidence that Emails were doctored by an Attorney (hes going to jail). But you will continue to take the Cool Aid That Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and the media are giving you. Ask yourself why are the Democracts so laser focused on getting this Man out of office? Try and stand back and be objective. They loved him and his money before he got in office. From day 1 they have been on a witch hunt to get him out. They are so afraid of losing they are throwing everything at him. He is producing actual results and doing what he said he was going to do. Pelosi and her croonies know they cant win because they have nothing to run on but hatred for Trump. - Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
- More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
- We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
- Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
- Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
- New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
- Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
- African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
- Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
- Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | A lib asked me the other day what we will do when Trump has "impeached" behind his name. Besides telling him it will never happen, I didn't even skip a beat. I said ELECT HIM AGAIN! Since they have done nothing but harrass him his entire term, he should get do overs and serve two more terms. I'm DONE being nice to those A$$wipes. They want to take away our country, turn it into a sh*thole. I'm not going to be nice to them anymore. If they truly are asking questions and want to hear the answers, I will help them all day. But if all they want to do is fight, I'm not playing. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm |  I get it now. I was very impatient Tuesday. I wanted to break things, I was so angry at the blatant attempted overthrow. We know so much, yet our reps were pretending they knew nothing. They used words like far right conspiracy theorists, which was BS. It's definitely a conspiracy, but it's no theory. We watched as this sham impeachment circus played out without much general push back. Yes, we see the Repubs in the House getting facts out, but left has a way of drowning them out. They yell, slam that gavel, (which I find rude, aggressive and snarky when used to silence someone, not just a tap to bring order, or let someone know they have timed out) and act like total circus clowns. They impeach first, get evidence later, or not at all. We all know that's very wrong, but it felt like we were whizzing in the wind when we would point it out. The House of Congress was reduced to a spectacle to be ridiculed. They deserve it. Then yesterday, that all changed. I have a whole new understanding of the big pic and the order of things. It has to be done exactly this way. I am so sorry for my impatience. Yesterday Horowitz testified about his findings. Lindsey Graham and Horrowitz laid out the evidence we all had been waiting to see. It sounded like it wasn't much to the untrained ear, but let me tell you, it was "everything"/ Horowitz was restricted to a certain set of responsibility, but it was enough. He is not a judge, or jury. He is an inspector, He's the guy who comes ion to check out the operation, points out flaws and makes recommendations to improve it. He can only refer criminal activity to AG Barr, or SC, Durham. Horowitz told us of 17 referrals. ("17". Nice number :) ). He to0ld us of all the criminal activity, the altering of evidence, the lack of evidence and exposed many member in the coup attempt. We learned a whole lot more . Now I see the order of things and why keeping the Senate was so important. I see why Manafort, Flynn, Georgie Paps and Carter Page had to become defendants. DISCOVERY! Now I see these investigations by the good guys, the patriots who are fighting back coming to the forefront. We sat through a bogus and flimsy impeachment show while they worked. The good guys really do have it all. Nothing can stop what's coming. I do trust the plan now. I saw Feinstein's look of defeat when she was more interested in who was getting indicted than she was interested in Horowitz, or his report. She asked questions he couldn't answer because they had already been referred for prosecution. That told her the answer without ever needing the name spoken. We we treated to Constitution class. Then House procedure and soon it will get to the Senate The American people had to see and hear the process, so they understand and not freak out. I believe Rudy is not just a lawyer for Trump, but he's We the People's lawyer too and he's working a case. He may even be an appointed special prosecutor, for all we know. If they vote to impeach, just note their names. We can deal with them at the ballot box. We now know these people do know the real evidence. The gig is up and that light at the end of their tunnel is a train! The Trump train. The House can vote to impeach, but then the Senate has to take it up. There are several scenarios. One is hold a trial. All the facts will come out and it will be the trial of the century. The Senate can vote to dismiss it. That too is ok. If the Senate dismisses it, Trump can still declassify everything. He has told us he will do that. Trump has already won. The only thing that may vary is the amount of pain coming. Horowitz was not the end. He was the beginning. We also saw a declas in Graham's questioning. "Clinesmith". Horowitz wouldn't say it, but Graham did. That had to be declassified, or Graham would already be called out. Nobody said a word. I still think we should be organizing and preparing.We are fighting for survival of our Republic, but the swamp is also fighting for their survival. We are already at war. It's not a violent war, but a war just the same. Expect anything and everything. The swamp is not going to just lie down. Dangerous, but exciting times are upon us. |
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | More about Biden's shady dealings is likely to come out in the deposition Hunter faces here in Arkansas over the paternity/child support case. Her lawyers want to know exactly how much he was paid by Burisma and when and what assets he has including any thing to do with the Chinese deal also. Now...the judge may well seal the records...but if/when an actual investigation occurs into the real Quid Pro Quo by Joe Biden...that testimony on the record could come into play. |
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        Location: Kansas | The Dems efforts to shield the Biden's needs to come to a screeching halt. Even they know this was a money-maker for the whole Biden family. Interesting, a reporter asked Nancy Pelosi why the "rush" on the impeachment process. As she reset her dentures with her tongue, she states "oh, there was no rush, we've been working on this for two and half years." |
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 The Vaccinator
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      Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Hillary has already begun to lay the path for her run in 2020 for president -- she is out there 'rebranding' herself.... just waiting, IMO, for the impeachment to settle, and then she will announce -- after all, she was cheated out of it previously and she DESERVES the presidency. :( She is bidding her time to race in on her steed to 'save the Democratic party'....... |
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  Champ
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2019-12-13 4:10 AM
Then, at the late hour yesterday, instead of voting, Nadler changed his plans to do this deed this morning. Why.....so the press would be ready. Dems are devoted to liberal media.
The MSM and the deep state are the ying and the yang. They are the right and left hands washing each other. |
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  Champ
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Delta Cowgirl - 2019-12-13 7:28 AM
Hillary has already begun to lay the path for her run in 2020 for president -- she is out there 'rebranding' herself.... just waiting, IMO, for the impeachment to settle, and then she will announce -- after all, she was cheated out of it previously and she DESERVES the presidency. :( She is bidding her time to race in on her steed to 'save the Democratic party'.......
That's what it appears she's doing. Some think they're going to spring Moochelle on us next year. It won't matter. We all must be sure we vote. No sitting home because we think it will take care of itself or someone else will vote for you. One thing we know is the dems fight, they fight to the bitter end and WE MUST as well. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | I have a hard time seeing Michelle jumping in although I know it's possible. She's settling down in their new 12 million dollar mansion in Martha's Vineyard. She was never all that crazy about being first lady (if indeed she is a lady). Hillary is nuts. Most people don't groove on failure. She seems to thrive on it. |
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  Champ
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2019-12-13 8:34 AM
I have a hard time seeing Michelle jumping in although I know it's possible. She's settling down in their new 12 million dollar mansion in Martha's Vineyard. She was never all that crazy about being first lady (if indeed she is a lady).
Hillary is nuts. Most people don't groove on failure. She seems to thrive on it.
Hillary is a narcissistic sociopath and she's got lots of company in politics it seems. That's why they blame everyone else for their failures and they lie like no other. Add to that the fact that they are losing their source of money (pay for play power), they are desperate to maintain their lifestyle, makes them very dangerous people. https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-the-narcissistic-sociopath-4587611 |
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Veteran
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| The agenda of the Democratic party is to deliver the U.S. to the Globalists. Some within the party don't know what the agenda is, they've just shown up for the "free stuff". |
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