Have any of you ever had an issue with a stallion not dropping?  Back story, I have a horse that didn't seem to drop.  I took him to the vet when he was 2 because I noticed he wasn't extending when he used the peed, the vet said he was swollen on his sheath and gave me some instructions to do and keep him clean, he thinks when he jumped a fence that he injured himself.  So we go on, at 3 I take him back to the vet because I noticed he really wasn't dropping, the vet said he was probably a late bloomer and he could feel them and just leave him alone and check back with him.  At 4 years old I take the horse back to the vet, the vet said again he could feel them so finally he decided to go ahead and cut him.  The vet called me later that day and said that his testicles were way up in his stomach and that he could not get to them, he did say that he was not very long in his penis and that is why I never seen him extending out.  He assured me that the horse couldn't breed because the body temperature would keep him infertile and that he would be just the same as a gelding.  I went ahead and had the horse broke out, he is a supper nice riding horse and works cattle great, but, I've noticed he has really started to develop an attitude.  He is now 7 and getting uncontrollable while riding him, especially if there is a mare around.  I called another vet that specializes in this and he said he could go in and fix this, so he has an appointment May 27.  My question is, has anyone ever had this happen and will the horse calm down after this.  I really am disappointed in my vet because he didn't inform me that he would still produce testosterone and could in the future act like a stallion, he assured me he would be just like any other gelding.  I don't want to feel like I waited too long to have this problem fixed.  I just want my horse to be a good riding horse, he is now 7.  Can this be fixed and what would anyone suggest after the surgery, I didn't know if maybe putting him on a calming supplement might help with the attitude until he gets it all out of his system.  

I have encountered a horse that was of course a stud and before cutting him he had deeloped a very BAD attitude.  He had not dropped both.  What I was told is that if they do not drop it is very painful for them the older they get and therefore the bad attidude.  You will see a noticeable difference in him one he is cut.  Ye he can still breed or mount a horse.  As far as being fertile that I am not sure of but my guess is that he would be fertile.  Not sure why the first vet said he couldn't get to them as I had two horses the same age that did not drop and took them to a Vet School and my one had droped one but the other had not developed so they were both cut.

I'd never deal with that idiot of a vet again.  The horse will be fine once you cut him.  I also recomend you get some experienced assistance with your horses.  

OMG exactly. You basically have a stallion regardless of how long he is or if it is too hot to produce semen. Did the fool not mention he will continue to produce testosterone!! It is a surgery and I have had it done twice that I can think of. In WY it runs about $300-$500. It will be well worth it and you can have your nice broke gelding back.

Ya that first vet is very misinformed.  The surgery will certainly go a long ways to changing his attitude.  It's not certain if he will completely revert to "gelding" behavior. Some of them can be a$$holes too. So it remains to be seen.  A criptorchid is not fertile but they still act like a stallion.  Glad you are getting it handled. Good luck.

thats not entirely uncommon..............Someone will have to lay him down and surgicially remove them............I would look into to it ASAP

Thank you for all the responses.  I haven't ever ran into something like this and wasn't sure if it was common or not.  I am disappointed in the first vet for not completely informing me about what would late go on with the horse.  The second vet that is doing the surgery has come highly recommended and I have spoken to him about it in dept. He said he will first evaluate the horse and see if it is possible to remove the testicle the traditional way before he performs any surgery on him, but he did say we were going to treat it like he was having a surgery and take the same precautions like no feed 12 hours prior just to be on the safe side.  I am just aggravated with the first vet and all the time and money I have wasted on this.  I feel this is something that should have been taken care of a long time ago.  This is one of those lessons learned moments.

Cryptorchids are still fertile and can still successfully breed mares. Many stallions are crypts and can pass it along to their sons (no known linking genes that I"m aware of, unless more research has been done).

I definitely agree that first vet was very misinformed, and OP I am sorry you've spent the last few years believing nothing could be done for your horse.

A cryptorchid is fertile, I knew of some breeding stallions that were cryptorchid from way back and I'm sure there is still some out there being used as a stud, this is and can be a genetic problem. I knew a man that wanted me to breed my mare to his stud and this stud was a cryptorchid, he only had one descended testicle but I told this man thank you but no thank you, since I knew this could be a problem if I got a colt and when it was time to be gelded it could be a big problem and I didnt want to risk it.

what can cause a horse to be cryptorchid if the stallion was not cryptorchid, can this just show up out of no where?

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This is something thats good to read about Cryptorchid horses, its called Tales from the Crypt {cryptorchid horses}

Very seldom if not at all can a cryptorchid be folded no matter who they vet is.

Cryptorchid are very common. I worked at a Vet that did a lot of these surgeries. You would be surprised with how many dumb vets there are out there, some will only remove one testicle and leave the other up in the abdominal and call it good. Then we would get calls about why there horse still acts like a stud. Having a double or single Crypt isn't uncommon I have seen several.