let the  fun begin

Anyone is better than Pence. 

She isn't going to help Joe one bit. She only got 2% in the primarys after spending a ton. And she's from a state that the Dem's could win by running a pot belly pig so no help ther either.

you are entilted to ur opinion    but your  so wrong pence has morals harris.......

Kamala Harris:  

She wants your guns.  They are weapons of war.

ICE is akin to the Klu Klux Klan.  Defund the police

Open borders...bring down the wall

Free health care for illegals 

Medicare for all, no more private insurance whether you like it or not

Advocate of AOC's green new deal.  No more fracking. We can buy our fuel from foreign countries or preferably drive electric cars. No more airplanes and no more cows. All buildings to be reconstructed to be more energy efficient. 

....and worst of all she wants to do away with all plastic straws. 

Harris for President.

Biden will be dead within 3 months of election or deamed incompitent.

Don't flame me please - but, is it just me or does picking her almost feel racist in itself?  Black -Check     Woman-Check      I'll take her. 

I dont know. I am pro Trump.  I think Biden is a bumbling idiot. But all that aside, this just seems so blatant in it's intent that it could just be interpreted as a slap in the face. Pretty thin attempt in my mind, IDK.

If elected, you're 100% right.

It's called pandering.

A LOT of people would agree with you 100% and Biden was pretty much threatened that if he didn't pick a black female he wouldn't get the black vote which he probably won't anyway.  Kamala Harris was so disliked as a presidential candidate that she took herself out of the running. 

Harris must of smelled the best. . .

The hardcore anarchists will fault her for not also being an autistic lesbian.

She isn't really black but still refers to herself as African-American. There is no African in her. Jamacian-Indian from India

My Iranian hair salon lady's daughter married a Jamaican doctor.  Her grandchildren are black.  She said Jamaicans are basically of African origin.  

My husband told me that a co-worker told him that if Trump doesnt give another stimulus check the he voting for Biden!

Now this is the same guy that quit my husbands dept. to work a dept. that paid less so he wouldn't lose the government benefits!

I told my husband, if communist comes around people like him will be crying the loudest!!! and suffer more!  I cant believe the mindsets of alot of people!  Im seeing more and more people thinking this way everyday!!!

Well, I don't think Biden will finish his term, let alone run for another. That puts Harris in the drivers seat, or whoever pulls her strings. I hope voters get and take the chance to listen to both of these people in debates before being so convinced that they could serve the USA better than Trump could in the next four years. I am conservative, but have friends that I grew up with who are liberal. They remain my friends and I respect their right to hold an opinion different than mine. But I must admit that I really don't understand disliking the personality of a president so much, that they would think that puting someone who has lost so much mental focus into the presidency can lead to a better outcome. I can only think that they believe that Bidens handlers, whoever they are, will serve the country better than Trump. One thing is for sure. China would love to see the person that they already bought and paid for in the White House. 

Not to defend the democrats but I think some of them still think the the democrats are what they used to be and are so blind to the evil they want now!  The dems have done a huge 180* turn.  Growing up I didnt hear bout the dems wanting evil things like today. My grandparents was dems and I gurantee you they would be changing to Republican, they would not support the dems of today! !  I'm glad they cant see what this world is so messed up! 

Biden Harris !

way better than narcissistic bully Trump.         It is NOT ok to be a Bully and DT is that

if Donald Trump a bully??? WE NEED A BULLY THEN!!!!

do me a favor  expplain  how he is a bully  just don/t throw out there explain 

I think bullies might describe people who want to mandate American citizens having to wear masks outdoors for three months.   Ummmm, that would be Harris-Biden.

Well lets start by yesterday before noon, he called Kamala Harris nasty, he said Mika Scarbrough a ditzy air head, and he called AOC stupid (or said she was dumb) I can't remember.  However she did offer to match his college grades and the loser had to support the post office.  I feel certain her grades are pretty good.  All this before noon, also called everyone on CNN nobodys as he griped about ratings.  IMO this is not presidential behavior, especially with almost 170,000 people dead.

Now I really don't have time to argue with you all today. another funeral to attend.  I'm really tired that all my social outings lately seem to be funerals.  Seems to me a lot of his very good people have went to jail, and positions were never filled.

I'm still not convinced he has replaced the pandemic team, seems we have no plan for anything and he is more concerned with ratings.  I did hear that he did meet with them this month, the last meeting he had with them was in April.  Since we know he doesn't read his intelligence reports, can't say I feel he has this under control.

I still think they are both too old, but I will be Ridin with Biden. I feel he at least will listen to experts and surround himself with them.  I think the debates with be very entertaining in a very sad way between crazy grandpas off their meds.  Harris will mop to floor with Pence.

I would say please don't flame me but I know it's coming.Just remember I am entitled to my opinion.

^^^ IF you have to ask, you are not paying attention ...... This is the definiton .....

Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others

Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t kowtow to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line.

I believe you just described Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler.  If you watched the Kavanaugh hearings that would definitely include Kamala Harris. She was a screeching witch.

I understand there is 2 sides to everything and I understand in the past bout people being on the dems side and the republican side.  But today I dont understand the support of the dems bc of the abortions being allowed past to almost being born or right after born, not wanting law enforcements, and wanting the Americans to be dependent on the Governmaent to make their living for them. 

The dems are not what they used to be! or maybe their agenda is no longer hiding. 

and supporting the illeagals and giving them money when we have our own people that are suffering that needs to be taken care of first.

The president cannot have his full focus on the virus alone! We would be in so much trouble if that is the case! Yes the virus is a big thing but so is sooo much other things!  and so sad that people are dying from the virus and flu and car wrecks, and whatever else!

We are in a war and its not going to go away overnight! I believe no matter who wins the election there will be a civil war bc no matter what side you on the opposite side will be so upset.

^^^^ Nice deflection and "excuses" ...... but it won't work against Trumps DAILY actions and words ...... but nice try though !!!! 

The VP debate is in Salt Lake City, I hope they allow specators I'd like to go!

I usually try and stay out of these conversations, but I have a few comments. 

• We didn't vote for Trump because he has a likeable personality.  Trump was voted into office because he knows how to get things done and doesn't care who he offends.  I have worked for companies, where I didn't like some of the upper Management, but I respected them because they did their jobs.  Trump is trying to help the working people of the U.S.  Please don't tell me about he only cares about the rich.  He has worked hard to bring back jobs to the U.S.  I am not choosing a friend. I am choosing someone to make decisions that are good for the whole.  There is no way to make decisions that everyone in the country will like.
• We voted for Obama because he was likeable.  My opinion is that he didn't help the Country very much.
• If the facts are correct, if Biden cannot fulfill his Presidential term, then it would default to the Speaker of the House - Pelosi because Harris is not a naturalized citizen.
• I was a registered Democrat at one point of my life.  If Biden had run 8 years ago, I might have voted for him.  With all of the things that he said lately, I cannot vote for him now.
• This one is just to think about.  How can the same group of people tell us that we should all wear masks to protect others and that we should not be given a choice, while at the same time saying that they are Pro-Choice and what they do with their uterus is their choice?  It is not their uterus that they are hurting, there is a baby inside that uterus that is the one hurt.

I have a question i would like the dems to answer HONESTLY AND NICELY....Do you all think it is a great idea to tear down the wall and let all of of the illegals come in for free healthcare,welfare,and many of our jobs?also,i seriously want to know if you answer yes,DO YOU WORK? Also how do you feel honestly about BLM.?

Another thing I dont understand is how people who are not from our country can get office? and how can we be so trusting to let foriengers in office even if they became american citizen that they wouldnt have a hidden agenda!

There should be some things off limits no matter what!

When I watched one of the Presidents speeches and they showed the people watching I think when he addressed the union I was shocked the muslims and all (I dont even know what to call them) and yes my head been in the sand!  Im sure it didnt happen overnight!

And I wonder is there any Americans on the government offices in other countries helping to run that country???

Harris was born in Oakland, California.... how on earth is she not a naturalized citizen!?

Another thing I dont understand is how people who are not from our country can get office? and how can we be so trusting to let foriengers in office even if they became american citizen that they wouldnt have a hidden agenda!

There should be some things off limits no matter what!

When I watched one of the Presidents speeches and they showed the people watching I think when he addressed the union I was shocked the muslims and all (I dont even know what to call them) and yes my head been in the sand!  Im sure it didnt happen overnight!

And I wonder is there any Americans on the government offices in other countries helping to run that country???

Since I seen so many foriengers in office I understand why they want to support the illegals! and why dont they take what they learned from us and go to their country and make better?  There no reason why another country cant be a great country like we are. 

Meep meep i know you dont have a job,and you want all the free stuff,im sure you dont have an education,you cant even speak your thoughts,im so happy we make you smile

If you want to see something disturbing, look up YouTube videos of Dearborn, Michigan and their Muslim population takeover.  Storefront signs are in Arabic and new buildings are often in Middle Eastern architecture.  

In St. Paul, MN, Somalians were brought in in droves by the Obama administration.  They don't even acknowledge our Constitution but they do acknowledge Sharia law.  Nice move Barack.  

Notice that I said IF THE FACTS ARE CORRECT.  I was questioning that statement because it had not been confirmed.

Notice that I said IF THE FACTS ARE CORRECT.  I should have worded that IF SOME OF THE STORIES ARE CORRECT.  I knew that I had not fact checked that one.  

We still need to think about would you want the VP to be the President if something happened.

But why say it at all if you hadn't fact checked it? This is how disinformation and conspiracy theories get spread. It took two seconds to google "where was Kamala Harris born?" Answer- Oakland, California.

Google is undeniably in league with the Democratic party so fact checking isn't necessarily going to get you the facts.

I have also seen information out there today being spread around like crap .......  that IF "President" Biden should leave office (dies, becomes incapacitated, etc), as Harris would become President ..... then, Pelosi would automatically become VP .... THIS is FALSE .... 

The second section of the 25th Amendment reads ..... Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Nice try ....... 

i reckoon  ur defintion of bully and mine are different. 

the the word bully and racist is pandered around where it means nothing like it used to 

but if trump fondle little girls like biden does on film  biden is under investation in the urkaine biden can not even rember where he is.  harris has already proven she will sleep her way to where she wants and 

yes trump said he could grap p....   but has he  ?  she is a  a smart women  but she is still nasty

Alright, so if Fox news also agrees that she is an American citizen and born in Oakland, California will you believe those facts?

Apparently, you have not read the definition ......

Here are a few things that Biden has NEVER done .....he NEVER insulted disabled people, Gold Star families or women; He NEVER had to pay off porn stars; he NEVER committed fraud through a university; he NEVER cheated on THREE wives; he NEVER walked into young lady's dressing rooms at beauty pageants; he NEVER bragged about "grabbing pussy" or "laying" women; he NEVER made obscene, ignorant and childish remarks towards his adversaries; he NEVER blamed the media (or anyone else) for any failings or mistakes; he NEVER had over 100+ people either fired or left his administration (look it up)........need I go on .....   

Here are a few words to replace "bully" ...... checkmarked Trump's 

BULLY .... v. use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.

Synonyms:

persecute....check

tyrannize .....check

browbeat.....check

harass .....check

torment .....check

intimidate....check

strong-arm....check

dominate....check

More

coerce, pressure, pressurize, press, push; force, compel; badger, goad, prod, strong-arm ..... need I go on .......

That's quite a resume. It looks like he's on his way to a 2nd term.

I don't have a problem with the wall except I think it's a waste of money because they tunnel anyway.  I don't think most dems want to let just anyone in without going thru proper channels and paying taxes.  I believe many of them do jobs people don't want to do or think they are to good for.  I do believe many of the people fussing about them sure enjoy their cheap labor, from big businesses to small farms.  Handing out benefits is not my cup of tea unless you earned them.

I did work for years now retired and run a couple of small businesses.  As for BLM they lost me when they started tearing stuff up.  I do believe they have some reasons to be upset, not just the Floyd case, but I have watched the Breonna Taylor case from the start.  I have lived a pretty white privleged life and I never had to worry about someone shooting my teenage son everytime he left the house.  When I listen to famous people talk about how much they get pulled over for nothing but skin color it makes me think about how lucky I am.  I don't think they deserve reparations all, I've never owned slaves.  Now the Indians they got treated like crap and the fact that many don't have running water just really makes me sad..

I hope I answered all your questions nicely.  I don't really consider myself a democrat, I am registered as one.  However I have voted for Republicans just as often.

Please tell me where you get the free healthcare?  I'm totally legal and would love to know where you get it.  I realize you can just not pay, I think a lot of people do that anyway if they don't have land or anything for them to take.  My healthcare expense makes me wish I was from Canada and didn't hate the cold.  

I live in Canada but since I am anti-Trump I'll answer since everything down there affects us too. And no, I'm not a liberal up here either. Registered as a Conservative ;)

- I think the wall is useless. I'm not for open immigration either although that would allow ME to come down and work. I'm tired of the cold, I want to live in Arizona. I do think there needs to be drastic changes to immigration reform but that will never happen.

- Of course I work. How else would I afford horses? lol.

- I absolutely support BLM 110%. I have Black family (adopted) that lives in LA and I've seen first hand what being a different color does to you. Do I condone the violence that has gone hand in hand? Nope. But I support BLM.

Thank you palopony!!!!I have been waiting to hear a responce,and i APPRECIATE the way you answered!!!! Im with you on the health care for sure,I have worked since i was 13 years old:)))

   I am not and have never been for BLM.Now,if the group was truly fighting for equality,i would be 2 thumbs up,that is not what they are about,and they are destroying lives,and things that people have worked hard for all their lives.

   THANK YOU AGAIN,i do appreciate hearing how people think,and how they see things,all we can do is learn from each other:)))

I know many think it should be all lives matter and they do, and should always have.  I heard a comedian say ....... You don't tell Susan Komen with all her pink breast cancer stuff, that all cancer matters and she shouldn't support her cause.  That would be wrong and sound heartless.

They really should quit tearing stuff up, IMO they a just hurting their cause and look like idiots.

I feel the virus will thin a few on both sides.

What do you think that the core group for BLM is actually fighting for then, Jake? Serious question. Do you really think that they want to destroy lives? I'm talking about the actual Black Lives Matter movement, not the looters and people causing violence in the street.

Thanks for taking the time to reply:) I am for the wall,and against sanctuary cities.In my opinion,the wall is needed to try and stop ALOT of the crime that comes through in that area.I agree that the policies need to be fair,FOR US,and people wanting to come here.

I dont agree with BLM,i do not like the way they present themselves or their cause at all.Nor do i like the people funding them and basically "egging"them on.I understand the differences in treatment,and i have seen it myself,as im sure we all have.I have many black friends,and trust me,they do not hold me accountable for slaves,another part of history that is thrown in our faces,as the rest of history is being torn down.I also dont care for the 2 faced beliefs that its ok to have miss black america,negro college funds,naacp,,lord help us if we had a miss white america.You just cannot be thugs and destroy peoples lives,and expect to be treated like an angel???If you put yourself in a position to be arrested,and you are on drugs,and resist arrest or fire upon and officer,i believe you get whats coming to you,and i dont care what color you are.YES,black people have it different in alot of situations,but we all must learn respect.There are many unreported white deaths by cops,and we dont protest every time something goes bad.

  Anyways,thats my way of thinking,lol,THANK YOU FOR POSTING YOUR THOUGHTS,I TRULEY DO APPRECIATE IT! 

It is nice to come back here after 3 years and see some new Democrats.  Since before Obama there were only a handful of us getting bashed badly every time we posted.  The personal attacks got quite nasty.  I almost moved out of country when Trump was elected until I remembered what I have said about other countries - they should fight to fix things instead of fleeing.  I have stayed and fought, putting my money where my mouth is, and hoping I don't get attacked this time for a Biden bumper sticker like I did 4 years ago with Clinton.  Keep the faith, fight the good fight and pray.

No,i dont think they started out to be looters,rioters,I know they want equality,justice,fighting from police brutality,i understand,trust me i do,i think the actual group needs to STAND UP AGAINST THESE LOOTERS,and as bad as things are right now,they should be standing up to the looters,preaching and screaming more to their groups of people that this crap isnt helping or bringing any justice at all.I also think before they riot the day someone is killed or beat,they should give the police time to make charges and follow thru.

I think there is a difference between BLM and people who think black lives matter. . . . 

blm  iwas formed in st louis for the trayvon martin.  go read their web page look who is on the board look what they stand for. they  want to tear crap up.  look at the chick who said on tv yes yes is up the food cain blm. they have a right to loot to steal if it put clothes on their back and food on the table as they were looting in chicago. said they the business owners had ins to cover small business owner can not afford that type. it passed to consumer.

blacks have all typed of black only organaztions they have black history  month they laws in place to get them where no asian latin  or white can get.

blacks my age 70 they had ity rough  jim crow, but they are the ones that will tell theses kid get over it get eduication.  , there is no excuse the education is there they just have to wanty it.

to many examles ophra ben tyler the teen in nashville . its there you just have to try. lbj ther welfare  was the biggest mistake for everyone. rewards 

getting knocked up rewards not trying to get ahead

healthcare is a joke, its outof control they way the system is set it its not cost effectiveno may my medical supplies should cost that much.

i saw where inda has a great system on the outside looking in   i would love for bear to say something about it

Well,what is your opinion on it,i dont think one doctor can make the difference.

I'm a big Trump supporter, but I agree he has done some really stupid things in his life time, but I have alot of respect for him too, hes done a great job in raising his children and I know the mothers have done a great job with them too and he and the X's worked together on raising their children to be great adults and to me that says alot for anyone that raised a good kid with respect for others. I love the way Trump loves and respects America that man has done alot of good out there but the hatters are going to hate no matter what he does, I have alot of Black neighbors and they have never said anything against him they are for him because they have seen what hes does for every American out there, my neighbors are not seeing any color they are seeing Americans.. Yep, theres things he says that make me cringe sometimes, but I get where hes coming from when he says something stupid he dont sugar coat ANYTHING!!!!

But Mr. Biden ohhhhhhh hes so touchy feely and gets in to many ladys and little girls spaces and does say alot of stupid things and does disrespect people also he proved it at his speeches by calling people names. Biden got lots of hidden stuff as well as anybody else, but I trust TRUMP over Biden any ole day.. 

We all have our opinions and I'm so gald we can express it without getting beat up on here today..Its great we can express our words and feelings with ones that we respect on here.. And I love Norma because she dont Sugar Coat anything either and I have lots and lots of respect for her I told myself I was not going to post anymore on political threads but just could not help myself #LoveyaNorma...

Oh forgot to say I love the definition that you gave on bullys everything is true/right. Not agreeing that for Trump but so true of the synonyms..

I highlighted that quotation. My uncle gets stopped monthly walking to work. He starts work at 4 am; he works at a halfway house. At this point its flat out racial profiling. Sometime he even wears a suit in hopes he won't get stopped and asked where he's going, what's he doing. Some of the cops know him and yet, they still stop him. He certainly hasn't been putting him in a position to be arrested?! Yet, he still is sometimes afraid they will.

I used to believe that highlighted part but not anymore. Canada's DUI rules are so out there that I could get what is equivalent to a felony in the US for not being able to blow into a breathalyzer, even though my BAC is 0.00. It's possible, it's actually happened.

Since COVID, and my hours being reduced I've been doing a lot of reading on mass incarecation. It affects so many Black peoples lives everyday. Michelle Alexander- The New Jim Crow- Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, Locking Up Our Own by James Forman Jr, Charged by Emily Bazelon.

Just a question, why did you have a Clintion bumper sticker? Was it a old one for Hillary? I think they the Dems have always been here but decided to speak up for what they feel is right,glad they are here too since I have gotton to know a few of them and they are just as good and nice as anybody else on here..

Thanks, Roxie .... I must admit that this thread has actually been enjoyable ....sane people discussing issues, etc without all of the hate filled stabbing at each other ..... very refreshing ...... we don't all agree but we can come out at the end still friends! 

Didn't say that. I believe she is a U.S. citizen.

You really need to watch the Creepy Joe Biden videos on YouTube.  

Whatever happened to Tara Reid who Joe sexually assaulted.

Hairy legs in the swimming pool with children stroking his legs.

"You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier" directly in the face of a voter.  Calling another one fat.

Bragging about being the best in his class in law school when it simply wasn't so.

Joe is a total underachiever.....always has been. 

Then there's the Hunter Biden story that's being well covered up.

I could go on but it's tiring.  Nice try though.

Birth right citzenship to parents that are not citizens has never been settled by the SCOTUS. Until the court rules on this there will be always a cloud over this issue. 

Andy showed that to me a few days ago and I thought it was so funny too since he had a plan for how he was going to get that money used for a good cause, Trump is a funny and sometimes a hard a** but hes got his heart in the right place and a pretty good sence of humor, Glad that Meep Meep thought this was a good one too. I knew she has a good sence of humor too...

Edited to say, Thanks Debra for posting this, its just really cool..

We all know why Kamala Harris was Biden's VP pick.  His pandering led to his being backed into a corner.  He had to select an "African American" and a woman, because he said he would.  She did horribly in the primaries.  In fact, she was so unpopular amongst Democrat voters that she was the first to drop out. Even Democrats in her home state ranked 3-4 other candidates ahead of her. They know how she got her start.  She was Willie Brown's concubine, and he rewarded her by helping her get started in politics. Ironically, Kamala's high point of her campaign was when she aggressively attacked Joe for his own past racist policies and said she actually believed the woman who accused Joe of sexual assault.  Nonetheless, she has been essentially pre-selected to be the next President, because Joe is vacant.  He routinely loses his train of thought in the middle of single sentences. Now they have smoothly gone from "African American" to a "woman of color".  See how that works?  Actual qualifications were not criteria....only gender and skin color.  Do you know what that's called?

Bigotry.