I've never been good at chess or any games that you got to figure out clues. But now I get why some people is pushing for the mail in voting!  My husband watched President Trump yesterday and he was saying that if the mail voiting happens that will delay the results and if the results are delayed til January the Speaker of the House will become President and we will never truly know who would have won. 

So actually it doesnt matter who is on the democrat running for president bc they want Pelosi President anyways.  and they gotta cheat to do it!!!!

I knew there was so much more to the reason behind the mail in voting but just didn't understand til yesterday!  So basically and I had a feeling all along that Biden was just a smoke screen along with his partner!

I dont know how or who the mail in voting gets to come to play?  Do we vote on it? or does the House? I dont know politics very well at all! I wish I knew more now! So sorry for the stupid question that I should already know!

It could be a disaster.  Don't forget in California and New York they illegally gave illegal migrants driver's licenses and they most likely will get ballots in the mail as was the original intention.  

I really dont think its bout the votes for democrats anymore but about delaying it so Pelosi gets to be President.

As if the trumpers needed another conspiracy theory to trot out.

You got yhe "deep state" bogeyman. You got all the crazy made up stories from dan bonggong and the rest of Faux News. Now you got yhe Post Office to be afraid of. 

Bottom line, it doesn't matter what it is, trump will screw it up. Even his people say he's "unfit for public office". And that this is what 3 and haf years of "immature leadership" brought us. That's stright from republicans, not from democrats or the deep state or antifa, straight from inner circle GOP'ers.

The commies wanted trump, they got him and they want to keep him. Putin is very unhappy that people have caught onto his puppet. 

Remember the great plan trump had for the goverment shutdown? You know, he was brilliant, he was letting it go on so he could permanently fire those workers and reduce the size of government. It was "brilliant" according the same idiots, dan bonggong, rush dumbaugh, laura ingrate, Q-Anon, Faux News, etc, that are pushing this latest bogeyman that is the US Postal Service. 

The only amazing thing is that some still fall for it. 

At some point in the future we will have a Democratic president. 

I hope they pass a law to get rid of all law enforcement. 

The only thing standing in the way of normal people getting rid of mentally brainwashed  and bad people is law enforcement. 

The liberals are not going to like what they are wishing for. 

What liberal has told you, or anyone, that they want to get rid of law enforcement? What democrat has ever proposed such a bill?

Where does this nonsense come from? How about "drain the swamp"? Lets talk about false promises. Unless the orange one meant trumpers going to jail? But then he will let them out. He's laying the groundwork to pardon Flynn, he commuted Stone, he will either commute or pardon Bannon and Cohen. 

But he's tough on crime, he got Aunt Betty off the mean streets. The commies wanted trump, the commies got trump. So called conservatives should be happy with that. And it seems they are?

So in the fantasy world you live in do you talk to Tinker bell and Peter Pan on a regular basis. This ones for you jd&ez

If the results are delayed because of mail in voting all elections will be in limbo that inclides the house and the senate. Nancy's term ends on 1/20/2021 same as the presdient the house would have to reelect her to be in line. More than likely this would go to the SCOTUS same as Gore V Bush. 

@ jd&ez: The Democrat Party has a rich history of engagement in voter fraud. Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. bought the presidency for JFK. LBJ of Texas and

Huey P. Long of Louisiana are a couple of additional frauds. The USPS labor union has long supported Demo candidates. Of cousrse they

wouldn't do anything crooked would they? If they can steal money orders and valuables from the envelopes and packages they're responsible for

shipping, I'm sure they can figure out a way to profile Republican votes. As a resident of Kentucky, you must be a closeted Lefty. Most of the Kentuckians

I've met have strong, patriotic values.

Trump 2020

Why push so hard for mail in voting if they are all so innocent and wants the best for us???

Why not push for online voting??? It definetely would be quicker and automatic.  Everything is pretty much online anyways.

I dont have a problem with post office.  or the workers. 

It just that this doesnt make sense on mailing votes in. There is a reason....

thank you!

The issue with mail-in voting, i.e. sending a ballot to everyone listed on voting rolls, is that most all voting rolls are not accurate. There are many deceased people on the list, people who have moved, etc.  All those folks would have a ballot mailed to the last address of record.  This means those ballots could be voted by whomever is at the receiving address.  Most people do not realize that their voting registration is NOT updated when they move, nor is there registration transferred to their new voting address (such as a new city or state), and your registration is NOT removed when you die. The only way to know if your registration is correct is if YOU take the iniative to check on it and correct it yourself. Most people never think about keeping their registration updated and accurate. THIS is the issue with universal mail-in voting.  With an absentee voting request, you have to prove who you are to receive the ballot -- you make the request.  Universal mail-in voting is an invitation for a HUGE amount of fraud. 

And on the post office issue of mailboxes being removed..... all of our community placed mailboxes in my town were removed years ago -- during the Obama administration.  If you want to mail something, you go to the post office.  So -- removing mailboxes has been going on for years as the postal service struggles to cut cost and become financially sound. The postal service has been losing money for years and years and years. It has a tremendous pension burden -- if you want to retire in great shape -- work for the postal service.  The pension burden is huge due to very poorly negotiated union contracts throughout the years. It's a dumpster fire. 

At this point in time, there are FIVE states that use (exclusively) mail-in ballots. There have only been 44 cases of prosecuted voter fraud in those five states..... check your own state...

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud?fbclid=IwAR195Q_Ovgv9h_aYpW4zkro_rzbTEFyqTDD0c2gKeKyEpHCrS4eTp4MM86o

I don't have much of a problem with mailboxes being removed but the removal of sorting machines IS a BIG problem..... Since DeJoy became the Postmaster General, a couple of months ago, FIVE (of 30) sorting machines have been removed from Memphis. Memphis is a hub of mail for FOUR states. Each machine was capable of sorting 38K pieces of mail EACH hour .. Do the math....Those five machines "could" sort 190 THOUSAND pieces of mail EACH HOUR.....THAT is the the problem! 

So is he Democrat??? Did he remove the machines to delay the mail so the voiting results can be mailed???

JKJK ...

What was his reasoning to remove the machines?

I know at my job we get hand me down machines and job should have bought new machines longtime ago but never in the budget so they keep fixing but parts are getting to be obselete on the machines we have.  Maybe machines broke and cant fix or not in budget they cant buy new.  Im sure machines like that is crazy high! Not taking up for him bc I dont know the situation.  I just know what we struggle here.  I work at casino. 

My husband works for the city and is head of dept. and he struggles everyday bc city always says not in budget.  His hands are tied alot of times and he gets so frustrated! and he has to deal with DEQ too.  So I can relate if that is the case for the Postmaster General.  Unless he just removed just because.  I would think he would have to give justification.  In our company we cannot remove any machinery even if broken without it being logged and why and it has to go in front of board. 

This is somewhat local to me so I get news reports out of Memphis ...... the workers in that Post Office hub say that the machines were in perfect working order .... and the local union leaders say changes made within the last 30 days are tying postal workers’ hands. They say there’s mail sitting at some facilities since LAST month. The "new" Postmaster General is a heavy donor of the Republican party ...... if you want to make it "political" ...... DeJoy has contributed more than $1.2 million to the Trump Victory Fund, and millions more to Republican Party organizations and candidates, according to Federal Election Commission records. He was also in charge of fundraising for the Republican National Convention.

Yes, there are states using mail-in ballots, however, those states are doing a great job of keeping their voter registration rolls current and up-to-date.  I do not have an issue using mail-in if the voter registration rolls are updated and correct.  I have a huge problem with those that are not.  

The story goes that DeJoy is attempting to cut postal losses.  That does not track with removing sorting machines.  The mail has to be sorted and those machines have to be the most cost effective way to get that done. Imagine the cost of man power to sort that kind of volume.  Another of his ideas is to lease out postal space. Makes no sense since the post office rarely owns their facilities. USPS leases space from individuals/entities who built to suit.  I know for a fact that their leases to not have a provision for subletting   Having managed a large portfolio of those facilities, I know up close and personal how unprofessionally the PO operatates.  But can a  political appointee as have the conflict free judgement to fix their problems?  Doubtful.

Question ...... IF Trump wins, will his EXCUSE of widespread mail-in voter fraud suddenly disappear?   

WOW ..... no answer ????? Why doesn't that surprise me ...... LOL

Well,it took fake collusion and 3 years for Hillarys claims to go away

Oh great, here we go.  

Why is this movement for widespread mail-in voting an issue, after 231 years?  Covid19?  Is that what they were saying?  Really?  How do you all get groceries?  How do you get gas?  Do you go out for dinner?  Takeout?  If you need something from the hardware store, how do you get it?  We were told we can do these things if we practice social distancing, wash our hands, use sanitizer, keep our fingers away from our faces, and wear masks. Isn't that correct?  We all need to go out for a variety of things, and even if we are afraid of Covid19 we do it, almost without fail. 
Proponents of widespread main-in voting claim there's no evidence this could lead to voter fraud.  I beg to differ. I don't often post links, but I will here.  Here are some links.  You decide.  
My opinion....wear a mask and vote....safely.  In my opinion, we should also have a universal voter ID law.  Almost every country in the civilized world has voter ID.  Don't buy the bullish!t that voter ID is racist.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/05/09/database-swells-to-1285-proven-cases-of-voter-fraud-in-america/

Saw a meme yesterday with a sign that simply read  "If masks work, why can't everyone vote in person?"  Remember it's the Biden camp that's gone lunatic about wearing masks.  

Just curious....who among us will not go to the polls to vote if there is no mail-in voting?

 I will be voting in person, just like I do every other election. 

Trump voted by mail and bashes mail-in voting. I don't get they hypocrisy. FL absentee and mail-in voting are exactly the same processes. 

Just other food for thought: Mail-in voting isn't just about the voter not getting covid. It's about greatly reduced polling locations and lack of poll workers (who are typically elderly and high-risk). It's about voter suppression. Lack of polling locations means less people able to vote. 

If you really want to impact change instead of sit back and complain, sign up to be a poll worker. 

No, they are not the exact same processes.  Quite different. Look it up.

Trump votes by absentee ballot, not "mail in voting". 

https://www.businessinsider.com/over-550000-primary-absentee-ballots-were-rejected-for-2020-primaries-2020-8

I will be voting in person I want my vote counted.

I will be voting in person!

Voting Democrat is like marrying into the wrong family. In addition to the adorable grandmother, you also get the pediphile uncle, the heroin-addicted sister and the adulterous father who was recently paroled.

I will vote in person. AFTER showing my driver's license to ladies who changed my diapers 55 years ago. I still have to show my id. Then I have to hear which of my children hasn't shown up to vote. 

I will vote in person. AFTER showing my driver's license to ladies who changed my diapers 55 years ago. I still have to show my id. Then I have to hear which of my children hasn't shown up to vote. 

They tell on my husband every time cause I always vote at lunch time and he comes in after work. "Oh, I see Brion hasn't been in yet. When is he coming to see us? He's going to vote right??"

Those ladies are exactly why I might vote by mail or drop box this year. It sucks cause I love the ritual of voting day. But I simply could not live with myself if, by some terrible asymptomatic chance, I passed COVID on to the cutest little old lady who is volunteering her time to work the polls. I talked with our supervisor of elections and he is confident in his office's ability to process timely if every single voter in the county chose to vote by mail or dropped off their ballot. A friend of mine has voted absentee in just about every election in the last 15 years and has never had her ballot canceled or returned. 

Oh, and in Florida, absentee and "vote by mail" are exactly the same process, according to the Division of Elections. 

In the small town where I vote you don't even have to wait very long. It's just no big deal.  I will definitely vote in person.

So someone tell me the difference between absentee and mail-in? Is it just that absentee is for someone who can't be there and mail-in is for anyone? Because that's the only difference I'm seeing. Trump even told FL to vote by mail so I just dont get the argument: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-encourages-florida-vote-by-mail

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200803/fact-check-is-there-difference-between-absentee-mail-in-voting

https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/

The voter has to apply for an absentee ballot and if their application is approved they receive a ballot.  In what is known as 'Universal Mail-in Ballot states' all registered voters receive a ballot automatically.  The problem is that many registered voters are either dead or no longer living in the district.  Absentee ballots are a specific request by a voter whose eligibility is verified before a ballot is mailed out to them. If you just mass mail a ballot out to everyone on the voter rolls, you will be mailing out, in effect, "blank checks" for voting to voters who don't exist.  
I don't know how everyone else feels, but this is an invitation for voting fraud.  In some states, even a small difference of a few hundred votes could make the difference between a candidate winning or losing a state.  
The experience in Florida in 2000 taught us this.  The fact that "dead voters" voting has become something of a standing joke for decades is evidence that this is a real potential problem.  If someone is afraid to go to the polls because of Covid19 I don't see a problem with them requesting an absentee ballot. That's how I see this.  

Has anyone ordered stuff online recently??? Are you getting what you ordered in timely manner??? Im seeing posts about where some people ordered stuff in April and just got!  I ordered Forco and it took a long time (way more than it should!) and I ordered from UK and got within 3 days and that had to go thru customs!

If everyone was honest mail in voting would be different and no big deal!